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FAMOUS QUOTES ABOUT THE GREEKS IN WWII:
Adolf Hitler:
"For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only the Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death.. " (From speech he delivered to Reichstag on 4 May 1941)
Winston Churchill:
"The word heroism I am afraid does not render the least of those acts of self-sacrifice of the Greeks, which were the defining factor in the victorious outcome of the common struggle of the nations, during WWII, for the human freedom and dignity. If it were not for the bravery of the Greeks and their courage, the outcome of WWII would be undetermined." (Paraphrased from one of his speeches to the British Parliament on 24 April 1941)
"Until now we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes. Now we shall say: The heroes fight like Greeks." (From a speech he delivered from the BBC in the first days of the Greco-Italian war)
Joseph Vissarionovich Tzougasvili Stalin:
"I am sorry because I am getting old and I shall not live long to thank the Greek People, whose resistance decided WWII." (From a speech of his broadcast by the Moscow radio station on 31 January 1943 after the victory of Stalingrad and the capitulation of marshal Paulus)
Charles de Gaul:
"I am unable to give the proper breadth of gratitude I feel for the heroic resistance of the People and the leaders of Greece." (From a speech of his to the French Parliament after the end of WWII)
Maurice Schumann Minister of the exterior of France 1969-1973, member of the French Academy 1974:
"Greece is the symbol of the tortured, bloodied but live Europe.. Never a defeat was so honorable for those who suffered it." (From a message of his he addressed from the BBC of London to the enslaved peoples of Europe on 28 April 1941, the day Hitler occupied Athens after Greece fought a 6-month war)
Moscow, Radio Station to Greece:
"You fought unarmed and won, small against big. We owe you gratitude, because you gave us time to defend ourselves. As Russians and as people we thank you." (When Hitler attacked the U.S.S.R.)
Georgy Constantinovich Zhoucov 1896-1974 Marshal of the Soviet Army:
"If the Russian people managed to raise resistance at the doors of Moscow, to halt and reverse the German torrent, they owe it to the Greek People, who delayed the German divisions during the time they could bring us to our knees." (Quote from his memoirs on WWII)
Benito Mussolini:
"The war with Greece proved that nothing is firm in the military and that surprises always await us." (From speech he delivered on 10/5/1941)
Sir Robert Antony Eden, Minister of War and the Exterior of Britain 1940-1945, Prime Minister of Britain 1955-1957:
"Regardless of what the future historians shall say, what we can say now, is that Greece gave Mussolini an unforgettable lesson, that she was the motive for the revolution in Yugoslavia, that she held the Germans in the mainland and in Crete for six weeks, that she upset the chronological order of all German High Command's plans and thus brought a general reversal of the entire course of the war and we won." (Paraphrased from a speech of his to the British parliament on 24/09/1942)
Sir Harold Leofric George Alexander, British Marshal during WWII:
"It would not be an exaggeration to say that Greece upset the plans of Germany in their entirety forcing her to postpone the attack on Russia for six weeks. We wonder what would have been Soviet Union's position without Greece." (Paraphrased from a speech of his to the British parliament on 28 October 1941)
George VI, King of Great Britain 1936-1952:
"The magnificent struggle of Greece, was the first big turn of WWII" (Paraphrased from a speech of his to the parliament in May 1945)
Franklin Roosevelt, President of the United States of America:
"On the 28th of October 1940 Greece was given a deadline of three hours to decide on war or peace but even if a three day or three week or three year were given, the response would have been the same. The Greeks taught dignity throughout the centuries. When the entire world had lost all hope, the Greek people dared to question the invincibility of the German monster raising against it the proud spirit of freedom."
(Paraphrased from speech he delivered on 10/6/1943)
"The heroic struggle of the Greek people... against Germany 's attack, after she so thunderously defeated the Italians in their attempt to invade the Greek soil, filled the hearts of the American people with enthusiasm and moved their compassion." (Paraphrased from a speech of his on 25/04/1941)
NOTES:
On 10 April 1941, after the capitulation to Germany, the northern forts of Greece surrender. The Germans express their admirations to Greek soldiers, declare that they were honored and proud to have as their adversary such an army and request that the Greek commandant inspect the German army in a demonstration of honor and recognition! The German flag is raised only after the complete withdrawal of the Greek army. A German officer of the air force declared to the commander of the Greek Eastern Macedonia division group, lieutenant general Dedes that the Greek army was the first army on which the stuka fighter planes did not cause panic. "Your soldiers" he said, "instead of fleeing frantically, as they did in France and Poland, were shooting at us from their positions."
The Greeks originally surrendered to the Germans only (which makes sense). Mussolini learned about it and got pissed, demanding that the Greek Army surrender to the Italians as well. He ordered additional attacks against the Greeks who were then in the process of surrendering to Germany. The Greeks resisted, and defeated the Italians once more. After the embarrassment to Mussolini, Hitler relented and had General Dietrich convince General Georgios Tsolakoglou to include Italy as well in the surrender.
And here's a very old quote from ancient times:
AESCHYLUS: "BECAUSE ONLY WE (THE GREEKS), CONTRARY TO THE BARBARIANS, NEVER COUNT THE ENEMY IN BATTLE"
Here's a little history lesson on the Greeks in WWII. The Greeks resisted longer than any other country before being occupied by the Nazis.
DURATION OF RESISTANCE (in days):
Greece 219
Norway 61
France 43 (The superpower at the time)
Poland 30
Belgium 18
Holland 4
Yugoslavia 3
Denmark 0 (The Danes surrendered to Hitler's motorcyclist who was conveying Hitler's request to the Danish king for the crossing of the Nazi armies. The
Danish king indicating submission surrendered his crown to the motorcyclist)
Czechoslovakia 0
Luxenburg 0
TOTAL GREEK CASUALTIES IN WWII BY COUNTRY:
Albanians killed 1,165 Greeks
Italians killed 8,000 Greeks
Bulgarians killed 25,000 Greeks
Germans killed 50,000 Greeks
TOTAL LOSES IN POPULATION PERCENTAGES:
Greece 10%
Soviet Union 2.8%
Holland 2.2%
France 2% (The superpower at the time)
Poland 1.8%
Yugoslavia 1.7%
Belgium 1.5%
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Thank you for your kind words, you are very welcome and I hope you enjoy your stay in Greece. It is true what you say that the Greeks are proud of themselves and that, not without reason. They carry a great culture. They walk on the ground where Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Leonidas, Alexander the Great and so many others walked... Moreover, for hundreds of years until today, they are threatened by neighboring peoples who want to seize their homeland. They were once conquered, but managed to break free. And because of their love for freedom, their struggles went down in history.. That's why they are proud.. Because they never hesitated for a country so small in size to mess with empires...
Thank you again.
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Nobody stole any food from anyone. The recipes were of the land.
Which, sure, used to be originally Greek/Armenian/Kurdish, now Turkish.
That's why all the different nationalities that were once part of the Persian, Macedonian, Roman, Byzantine, Ottoman empires share so many dishes.
But because the last to put their names on the dishes were the Ottomans, every turk thinks they are Turkish.
When historically, the Turks were even being made fun by scholars as "having no culture other than archery and meat jerky"
But i preffer the Turkish culture surrounding bread.
It should be just a vessel for something meaty and greasy.
Who cares about bakeries! :P
As for baklava, and other syrup/phyllo deserts, you should try the "Lebanese style".
More crunchy, less sweet. More perfect.
Ah yes, Ataturk. Mustafa Kemal, as is his name.
Progressive by turkish standards, a true hero for them.
A monster for the original inhabitants of the conquered lands which he desperately wanted to "turn turkish", as in, genocides and pogroms.
I still cannot comprehend how one can be so patriotic, when everything around them shows that this land is someone else's homeland for millennia, and all you did was put minarets on stuff and called it yours.
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America stands for work at any cost to your health, to hobbies, to fun, and to family. Work produces taxes, consumers, insurers, and happy bankers. Without time to think, reflect, and plan, itās difficult to see beyond the āfree cheeseā and know that one is in a big trap. I left three decades ago, and firstly it isnāt easy, so donāt ever convince yourself that it will be. But, in time youāll be happy that you didnāt stay when you intuitively knew that thereās something wrong in our country and the few who are benefiting from it do not live in your neighborhood ā they donāt even live in the upper-middle class neighborhood. Thirty-five years ago 250,000 Americans were leaving our for other countries ā this gave me strength to know that I wasnāt alone. Today, this figure must be near 600,000 per year. America has out-priced Americans from our own country. And, it is depressing to drive through neighborhoods where no one sees people because theyāre all working or resting from work and who have zero community with one another. As members of a social species, this is absolutely clinically way off. Finally, consider how far down the road the strangeness in our country has gone for it to cause some its citizens to get up and leave everyone they know and the only place that they have known. This isnāt typical of our species is we bond to people and places alike. However, when the water in the pot weāre sitting in continues to get hotter, itās our survival instincts that are pushing us out of the pot. Think about that for a moment ā that itās an existential matter as opposed to a casual off-the-wall thought.
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Greek from Greece living in the US for the past 7 years and currently working in American healthcare. The only thing that sucks about my country at this time is the economy. Other than that, itās a paradise and many Greeks who have traveled a lot probably have come to that realization. There is something so authentic about Greece. People have not lost contact with their souls. They have different priorities, i.e. family, friends, socializing, relationships. Again, travel to other places in the world and see for yourself what that means. Also donāt expect to find a better climate anywhere in the world. America is a great country too, with opportunities, meritocracy, and very nice people. However, the societyās priority is work. Thatās why itās the number one superpower and the place where most humanityās advancements come from. But perhaps living in a society like this wears you down with time. I am very appreciative of the things this place gave me though and the people Iāve met.
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As for the Greek countryside, it has impressive diversity and beauty, from desert to dense forests and alpine mountains: Vikos Gorge, Zagorohoria, Karpenisi, Proussos, Agrafa, Tzoumerka, Olympus, Pieria mountains, Pelion, Sporades, Parnonas, Taygetos.......apart of course from the well known green Ionian islands and the myriad Aegean desert islands.......and, specifically, the region around Karpenisi is recognized by UNESCO as the most pristine (wrt air, water, soil, pollution, wildlife) region in Europe, and in the top 5 cleanest in the world--if you traveled the Turkish countryside you should definitely do the same in Greece, which will be far easier because that diversity is all squeezed in a country with land area equal to Louisiana, compared to the relative vastness of Turkey (more than 6 times the size of Greece and almost 10 times the population).
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Young people should take advantage of their talents, build careers without incurring debt through online universities, and seek opportunities in countries that are thriving and eager to grow. Unfortunately, in some places, more people seem to want to see others stumble, not realizing how this hinders the country's progress.
There are still good opportunities to explore greatness in other countries. I believe older people, in particular, should consider enjoying their retirement in places with more peace and a lower cost of living, rather than enduring the stress of division and watching groups claim to have solutions while ignoring the populationās needs and focusing only on money or fame at others' expense.
As Iāve learned, surround yourself with great people, find peace, and sometimes the best solution is to leave and break free from a destructive cycle.
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As a Turk, I agree with everything you said in this video. I love my country, but when I look back and compare how it was 20-25 years ago, I see that it was a much better place to live (though it wasnāt a paradise). Cities have seen significant migration from rural areas, and with an uneducated population moving to urban centers, the culture has deteriorated. Adding to this, the influx of millions of people from underdeveloped countriesāSyria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and various African nations has changed Turkey dramatically. When I realized it was over for Turkey, I decided to leave seven years ago.
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Hi
I like your vids; Iāve been a Grecophile for many decades, moving to retire end of next year to Crete.
You are absolutely right; the new āDā visa is obtained via the Greek consulate in your native country, then when arriving in Greece, the application for the initial three year visa should be made; it then means you can stay beyond 3 months as long as the application process takes, although using an immigration lawyer can be quicker. The income route has increased to ā¬3,500 per month, increasing by 20% for your partner, OR you can go the savings route, which presently is circa ā¬73k, to prove economic stability for the three years and beyond. Once, as you say, your vetting has been done already in your native country, then Greek will be your oyster!
There is a serious demographic issue in Greece today; for every two deaths, only one baby is being born. They need immigrants to bolster the population and spend their money there. Makes sense.
Best regards
KMW
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point 1: traffic, you're absolutely right, it is dogshit, awful, more than you know. drive defensively and anticipate every time, everywhere. It's like NYC taxi drivers but far worse and everywhere.
point 2: taxes, yeah you're right, when I lived in NH, there was no sales tax and in NJ it was 6-7 one of the highest in the US, imagine my surprise. i bought everything and brought it over.
point 3: street dogs, not optimal, they can get aggressive and harm each other, people, pets etc. afaik US solution is euthanizing after a time but i don't like it. I wish we could have make something like catch - neuter (reduces aggressiveness) - release program and reduce population that way.
point 4: food portions, you're also right, that's called skimpflation, i.e. expanses rise 25% but instead of applying a 25% price increase, they reduce the doner meat and make the price same or a bit higher to fool people.
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Good day, from Kamakura. Japan šÆšµ! I left America back in 1979 on my 19th birthday. I was a broadcast journalist in the United States Air Force. I lived, worked and served in Turkey, the Portuguese, Azores, and then Japan, where Iāve been living for 43 years come January. I did go back to the United States twice: first to Hawaii back in 1985, and then two years later I came back to Japan as a correspondent for ABC News. I left again in 2000, going back to the United States for 5-and-a-half years, first in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, then Portland, Oregon and finally, Seattle, Washington. I came back to Japan in 2006 and havenāt been on an airplane since then. I have permanent residency here in Japan, a wonderful home, great neighbors, good friends. Iāve never been happier than all in my previous life. Many of your/our ancestors left their homelands for better opportunities. Itās time now for Americans to consider doing the same; leaving home for better opportunities. šš¾š¤©š¶šÆšµ
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both sides of my family settled in early america. many forefathers who fought in the revolution and other wars (i am a son of the american revolution). was raised to love my country and to be grateful every day for being american. in middle age, this is an alien country and i can see just how awful the place really is. it wasn't always like this, but americans just did not care enough about it to preserve the best parts while removing the rest. now, it's a very lonely, depressing place to live. one sibling left the country and the few times she's been back for visits, remarked on how ghetto the place is. the rest of the world has moved on in so many areas and the u.s. has nothing left to boast about besides its corporations and wealth inequality. i've never imagined a nation so hostile to its young, from the womb on up. absolutely loath their children and care nothing at all about giving them something they themselves had, like a future with a family and community. it's all transactional. the smarter youth are leaving america behind and that seems to be story of the european peoples -- ruin their own country, then move somewhere else and start all over. mexico and other expat destinations are pushing back though and the option to flee is a window that is closing. digital IDs, gentrification, imperial yankees moving to non-white countries is not going to be tolerated for much longer. mexico is already making it harder to flee the u.s. by increasing monthly income requirements.
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the trick in America is you have people who are hard workers, who've only ever tried to do good for themselves and others, and yet still only get shit on, rejected, nowhere financially etc. And what's the American system's response/message to these genuine human beings? Sucks to suck! It's your own fault you weak pathetic person! You got what's coming to you! In other words, taking cover for this totally abusive, inhuman environment that's been built up around us against our interests and without our consent, that only poisons us mentally, physically and spiritually. Telling us we all just need to 'toughen' up, for this, what they tout as the "real" world. No. It's enslavement. It's overt corporate feudalism, anti-natal, anti-human. It has to be stopped one way or another. Thank you for putting this out here. o7
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I've seen other videos like this. But this will be my first comment on this topic i think.
First off, shout out to you.
I will say, I think, if I move abroad I need to make sure I live off of usd. Which means, I'd need to live in a country where the dollar is strong or decent.
I believe we have df takes of why us Americans are leaving our US. Either way, regardless if our takes differ, the end result remains.
In my experience/my view, we're an uptight nation. We stay in our bubble. We get creeped out too easily. We freak out too easily.
I'll admit. I keep to myself too. Because I'm edgy. Edgy personalities are an outcast in America. I'll give an example of what I mean. Guy finds a girl attractive, but she looks young. The guy is already a bad person if he befriends the female. Not sure of the age until he says hello. But he's already a bad guy, again, because he approached a female who looks young.
And unfortunately, age is one of multiple topics that make us uptight.
Non western countries have its flaws too. But I grow tired of how uptight we are.
Part of me wants to say more but I will leave it at that.
Again, shout out to you fellow American!
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Your videos are very informative. The Athens Metro is indeed very safe, clean and straightforward, you can definetely use it as a tourist. I'd rather use it as a tourist than rely on taxis, because you always risk getting ripped off by the driver or driven around in circles. It doesn't run during the night. I've never seen a violent episode, apart from teenagers shoving each other. I've been on the London Tube and the NYC Subway and I felt very uneasy and unsafe, especially at night, not to mention the piss covering every corner.
It's true us greeks love our strikes! We say that it's our national sport :P These happen fairly often and the city grinds to a halt. Athenians generally are a bit snobbish regarding public transport, especially buses, which are notoriously late and full of fare dodgers. Most of the city residents own cars and prefer being stuck in traffic and having nowhere to park than using a bus. The Green Line is the oldest (opened in 1869) and sometimes attracts more shabby passengers than the other two, new ones. The area around Attiki is dodgy, I wouldn't go there at night. Graffiti is everywhere in Athens! It's illegal to scribble on other people's property, but no one cares.
Your tip about getting off at Thiseio is great, it's a nice area for walking around in the morning and also for an (overpriced) drink outside in the evening. The station at Monastiraki can get extremely crowded in the summer and there are many pickpockets around! Athenians turn their nose up at the touristy taverns in the area, with the guys outside calling to you to come in, however some are good.
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I have a lot of time thinking about leaving my country, at least just for a couple of years, I am from Argentina, i think this country is going to keep falling down for ever, this country will never move forward, i am tired of inflation, corruption, politics and the people, tired of everything, tired of living in a country where is imposible to afford a house, a car, or even food, in this days in Argentina your work not even guarantees you to eat, and i want to live the experience of work and live in another country, i was thinking to go the US, but i have the oportunity to get my italian citizenship, i supose that Italy is the right place to go, 2025 could be the worst year ever to chose the united states
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āĀ @LargeManAbroadĀ > I wasn't trying to portray Greek people as a monolith,[...] as some ideologically homogeneous ethnic group.
Oh, I know. Don't worry about that. My comment was not meant to disparage your point, but to make you aware that you are barely scratching the surface. Things in Greece are rarely as they seem. And that is even more true for the people, hence my comment about buttoning your coat. I was not being literal, but metaphorical :)
Some of the nice impressions you have about the locals, might end up being harmful for you in the long run.
> How many populations that were contemporary to the ancient Greeks are still around that have maintained that identity? Maybe Egypt?
In my best of knowledge only three civilisations are known to have maintained their language and, thus, their identities, through almost 3000 years.
The Chinese, the Greeks and the Hindu (Sanskrit).
Unfortunately the Egyptian language didn't make it through the centuries, especially their hieroglyphics where mostly meant for a very few select people and thus when that society collapsed, they couldn't maintain that knowledge.
> More or less, I find it impressive that Greeks, through all that, have maintained a strong cultural identity.
Oh, it IS impressive.
But there are reasons for it.
Where the Chinese and the Hindus managed to maintain their culture and language through their historically vast populations, the Greeks had no such luxuries, especially being right in the middle of the crossroads between Europe and Asia, in the Balkans, the "powder keg of Europe".
I'd rather not go into it though.
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