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There is a long-standing naming controversy. Most people who use the system today don't know that what they're actually using is the GNU system combined with a Linux kernel. For many years, the media and the user community itself has given undue weight to the contributions that come from Linus Torvalds' camp and fostered a skewed account of the operating system's history, barely acknowledging the existence of the GNU project. The GNU project was started in 1984 by Richard Stallman to develop a complete free operating system, because none existed at the time. Its design closely followed that of Unix because Unix was highly machine-portable and (at that time) pervasive. Linus Torvalds did not write a whole operating system. He only wrote the last missing piece, a kernel, and he only did that in the first place because development of Hurd, the GNU project's own kernel, was lagging behind (and has not been completed to this day). Torvalds didn't write the kernel because of a belief in ``open source`` (a term that wasn't even coined until 1998 and misses the point of free software), and he originally released it in 1991 under a proprietary license until he was persuaded to re-license it under the GPL the next year. Saying ``GNU/Linux`` instead of ``Linux`` is fairer and more accurate. Without the irreplaceable software contributed by the GNU project - and even more importantly, the founding ideas of freedom - the system most people mistakenly call ``Linux`` would not exist. PS: Unlike Linux, Minix is a mainstream operating system (powers Intel's infamous ME). Anyhow, monolithic kernels (including Linux) are at this point conceptually obsolete. Cheers!
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I realize I'll probably get some hate for this. However, Macs just aren't what they used to be, and even the biggest Apple fans will agree. They sorta just plateaued. Once upon a time when hardware improved by leaps and bounds, their new hardware was good, but never great. And now, it just seems they can't get ahead anymore, and are selling overpriced devices that are just, "meh". Yes, they probably last a long time, but with the amount I spent on my MacBook Pro, I could have purchased 2 or 3 high-end PCs/Laptops that are current, and would still last several years. Apple's new focus seems to have shifted heavily towards their iPhone, tablets, and the iWatch, but even those are seen as expensive toys to many people.
This is my rant of frustration. Enjoy!
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One word: stability
I use Ubuntu because I like stability and I do Web Dev work so I need a supported system, and Ubuntu is still the closest to mainstream Linux system.
Anything outside of a Debian based system is for people who want to feel special for using Linux.
Also, before some nerd @s me. If you think Ubuntu is spyware but have a Google account, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft account, or use a smart phone then you are LARPing as hackerman and are a hypocrite. Ubuntu needs to know the hardware setup of some sample of users so theu can optimize their operating system for their actual users. It is a good thing and I am happy to tell them I am using a ThinkPad from 2012 with an upgraded processor, RAM, and two SSDs. (gotta love that old thinkpad style, i don’t need a dvd drive in 2020, so i swapped the disk drive out for a second SSD) I am probably not the only one using older hardware and Canonical having that info tells them ”hey, we need to make sure this will run on older hardware”
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@DorianDotSlash Thanks for this video!
I started long time ago on Digital UNIX and Slackware 3.1. Continued on Slack until I parted with Linux for quite a few years. Came back couple of years ago and ran Gentoo for some time until one upgrade just would not go (I was probably too much behind and when updating Gentoo just flooded me with hundreds of dependency errors, I just gave up). I needed something simpler, with minimal trace and just enough functionality, which would let me install binaries as well as compile my own stuff when I wanted. I tried Arch, (L)Ubuntu, Manjaro, Mint, Elementary OS, Fedora, Suse, FreeBSD... Some of them stayed for few months, some for few minutes, but none of them felt right.
Then I heard about Void Linux somewhere and as soon as I installed it, I knew. Minimal, simple to maintain and fast. That was all I needed.
Currently running Void with slightly customized dwm and st, and it's just pure delight to work in. My soul is still not in peace however as I installed LXDE version and just slammed dwm on it - there is unused stuff just sitting on the disk taking space and I am a bit confused where Xwin config stuff goes. After seeing your video I might reinstall with just a base, dwm and the suite of programs I want and I would be settled and happy for years :).
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Elementary is quite an amazing distroi, I like using it. Pantheon is beautiful, usable and it manages this at a very small memory footprint, that's great.I also really like the appstore with it's pay-if/what-you-want model. I wish they'd get rid of the problems. You mentioned some, this is my take: It's unbelievable that eOS still doesn't ship with a full-featured browser. Web is fine for a quick look at a website, but really, most people need Firefox or some flavor of Chromium. - eOS tries tro be an out-of-the-box experience, but doesn't ship an office suite. I can't get my head around that. Plus, if you install LibreOffice from the appstore, the theme is all borked up. I had to download the DEBs from the LibreOffice website. / the decision to get rid of the minimize button and have all (elementary) apps open where you closed them is interesting, but in my opinion ultimately flawed. First, it only works with apps designed for elementary, second, I want a file manager to start in my home directory, not in the directory of a now unplugged USB drive, which prompts an error. / Pantheon looks great by default, but offers little to no customization. That's strange in the Linux world. - Summing up, I still ove eOS, but I really wish they'd work on these issues.
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Hi Dorian,
I enjoyed watching your video. You answered a lot of questions for people like us in the Linux community who are constantly bombarded with introductions to various Linux distros. It has been said that "this distro is the best Linux distro". You made us aware that whatever our needs that exist in our preference for a desktop, that is what it should be. Like you said, if someone asked us which car should they purchase, or what pair of shoes should they buy...that depends on their particular preferences and needs. Dorian, thank you for showing us how to approach our needs when considering a desktop, distro, etc. according to our needs, preferences, and specifications of our hardware as it pertains to the RAM, hard drive and model year of our laptop or desktop computer. To sum it all up, your series of videos are very informative. I did not mean to take up so much of your time! Again, thank you. I look forward to more of your videos. God bless you!
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I see so many people saying that Manjaro broke on them. It happens with almost every distro at some point, especially depending on what one may be trying to get to work hardware wise. Software and drivers have been the bane of my Linux life.
That said, you need to install the correct way. Root, Boot, Swap, Home at a minimum. This allows update or reinstall if one has a problem our wants to upgrade a non rolling release system with the fewest issues.
I learned this back in my Mint days when I was more of a "noob" moving up from Mint 13 to 14. I just carried it over to Manjaro, and then to straight Arch.
And as he started more than once, backup, backup, backup. Clonezilla is a great way to back up the system, not just files. I backup the system before I make changes with hardware drivers. But my Arch has been stable for over a year. I like that I only have what I want installed, and no installer bloat.
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Another good video. I stopped using Ubuntu 18.04 too. I did it once before, when the first Unity release had problems with my graphics. At that time I switched for half a year to Xubuntu. Now I changed again, the laptop runs Xubuntu and the desktop Ubuntu Mate. On my desktop I switched to Mate, because it booted a few seconds faster. They look exactly the same; Plank Dock on the left, Conky on the right and the panel with the Brisk menu and Desktop Switcher on the bottom. Both Xubuntu and Ubuntu Mate are reliable, flexible and very efficient. Currently my host Ubuntu Mate is on line for 11 days, 1 hour and 35 minutes.
I have a number of reasons to abandon plain Ubuntu:
- Ubuntu 18.04 uses too much of my 8 GB memory and I need it for zfs cache and VMs.
- I do not like the way they work with virtual desktops, I need too many clicks. In other flavors I only need 1 click.
- Downloading Tweak through the browser is too complex and ridiculous, apt is the way to add OS options.
- In general I think, Gnome is too fond on its own GUI gimmicks and it is not flexible enough.
- I do not like the clutter with the snaps, but that changes with 18.10 and my Ubuntu flavors are clean.
I still use an old VM with Ubuntu 16.04 for my financial applications like Banking and Paypall. The VM is only loaded, when I look at money, exclusively used for my finances and the firewall is closed for all inbound traffic.
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This is the first video of yours I've had the pleasure of watching. It is very nice to hear a straightforward, hyperbole free recounting of actual experiences when comparing distros. I might be slightly biased by the degree to which what you're saying closely mirrors my own experience; but frank discussion is just so much more illuminating than what generally passes for critique these days.
I landed on Arch when I first came to linux years ago. The Arch wiki was a major part of my Linux education, and is still useful to me today. So all credit to the Arch project in general, it's fantastic. But once I was comfortable in Linux and using it day-to-day; I quickly soured on the amount of work required to ensure that my Arch system was ready to do work when I needed to do work. The system I'm typing on was installed with Debian Jessie way back in 2015. It is still happily running current Debian Stable. Even through all those updates and upgrades, the number of "manual interventions" I've needed to perform has been vanishingly small. A few times a year an update will produce a notice about an item of concern, which can be easily read in the terminal (during the update process) to decide if it applies to my system or not. These almost never require any action on my part, but I very much appreciate that I am actively notified of the potential issues. The need to "… [check] the Arch page to see what manual interventions I need to perform" is a minor but real inconvenience—that affected the way I engadaged with keeping my system up to date. In Debian I just update whenever I have a bit of free time, confident in the knowledge that doing so is extremely unlikely to force me into trouble-shooting mode in the middle of my work day. Upgrades only happen every couple of years and only require about the same amount of work as a regular update on Arch (at least Arch circa 2015). To my mind, the expectation in Arch that you will pro-actively read all the update notices is a really serious impariment to work efficiency. That, and any time spent implementing the recommended mitigations and/or fixing update related issues; is wasted time that nets you nothing. This far outweighs the very small advantage of more recent software versions. Particularly these days, when on the rare occassion that there IS a real advantage to a newer software package, it is trivially easy to access it via flatpak, appimg, guix, etc.
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Wonderful video. Wonderful product. I've been a PC tech for 35+ yrs and a Linux enthusiast for 10. My dream has been to install an OS on a client machine that is stable, modular, upgradeable, and crashproof -- in other words, putting me out of a job. After dealing with Windows BSODs, Windows OS Bloat, Ubuntu PPA hell, great QC with Ubuntu 18.04, and BAD QC with 20.04, I'm ready for a change. After just 2 days of playing w/ SilverBlue 32, I'm already hooked. I like separating partitions so I'm using 1 GB /boot, 32 GB / and the remainder as /var -- all formatted EXT4. It seems to work great. btw, I boot BIOS not UEFI on this old machine.
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I second Peppermint OS as a suggested install. Now, if you go Pop! OS (NVIDIA) - watch out for strange issues especially when booting up, which I experienced. Upon researching, I discovered that Kernel 4.15.24 has been a problem with various distros. If I boot in with kernel 4.15.23, no issues(so far). Apparently, the 4.15.2x releases are putting Linux users through some bumpy rides recently. Otherwise, Pop! OS is really impressive and fast. As for KDE issues, ehh what are going to do. I know I'm in the minority here, but I admittedly love the workflow and slick experience of Gnome comparatively. Especially on how Pop! Implements Gnome.
KDE feature wise is incredible and memory management is great, but man I just don't like the experience. There just seems to be too much going on and with all that customization, I'll never get any work done. 😬
I'm sure you will make the right decision and if not, then all of us will be here to say "Hey I never told you to do that..no not me man". 😜
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I just used a tool called JLiveCD to create a backup of my system so I can carry all my installed apps and custom profiles with me in a USB drive. At the end there, from what I understand the appearance changes you made only apply to the user you created, isn't it? If you want to turn these changes default for new users in the future, copy all contents of your /home/username folder to /etc/skel . Just be careful to delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from there, leave .Xdefaults there. Squashfs is really interesting, I just create and ISO with pre-installed Wine and all its profiles, Firefox custom profile with extensions and cookies, VLC and other goodies, and my ISO only has 1.5 GB, compressed from original size of 5 GB. For me where Linux really shines is when you boot live, you can experiment a lot and if things go wrong you just reboot with a fresh start. Takes a little bit of tweaking to use Linux "live" in a daily basis but you learn a lot in the process and also really satisfying experience when things go right, with the plus of not making your hard disk overwork with constant reads/writes.
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Thanks for your review. Agree with your comments about "known" vs Pop!-made on the System76 website.
My experience has been that Pop! is fast, sleek and easy-to-use. It is geared to simplicity and productivity. The speed, responsiveness, integration, price, stability, and just about everything I see about it is stunning. At unboxing, it looks bland. Upon using, this distribution seems to reach out and offer you anything you need to get work done quickly and smoothly.
Pop! reminds me of the Palm Pilot and the first handheld, screen-based phone manufactured by Palm, Inc, Treo (agree Ubuntu deserves credit as does System76 crew). Those products were revolutionary, far ahead of anything else on the market and perhaps too far ahead of their time. I would take a Pilot to parties and people went crazy, "Why don't I have one of those?!?!" Then, Jobs got the smart-phone bug, copied the basic Palm layout, and the iPhone was born, with the Palm Pilot and its offspring dying a mediocre death.
Pop! scares me in that it is similarly way ahead of its time. I am getting work done in hours which use to take days on a Mac or Windows using machines which sometimes cost more than a System76 Oryx. As I sit here churning out media at a record pace, I have nightmares of Jobs clawing his way out of the ground to send yet another product to an early demise, stopping Pop! and the revolution it threatens to spawn. Maybe I should quit worrying and just enjoy the moment?
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I started off on simple efficient computers like the (swedish) ABC 80, the Apple II, Sinclair, and my own home built machines. I appreciated that on these, as well as on systems like CP/M and MS-DOS, the actual application (and user!) was the boss. The OS was mostly invisible, disabled, or not even running, when you did actual work ... except for file handling, of course. I though that simple scheme was pretty natural, neat and efficient.
I have therefore been perplexed for decades by the enormous complexity of Windows and Unix. Haven't even fully understood the purpose of such a complex and demanding "operating system" on a simple personal computer, or why it has to be so closely modelled after old minicomputers and mainframes of the 1970s. It's like a religion, because if you even pose this question, people gets really mad at you ;)
(// 54 years old civil engineer that does digital and analog electronics design and enjoys both machine level and high level programing. Special interests include programming language and compiler design, plus low level CPU design principles.)
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I'm used to the windows file structure due to sheer weight of experience (going on 30 years of dealing with the same structure will do that I guess), though I've not always found it a particularly sane structure. - it's prone to a lot of weird and nasty mess.
Also it's not as consistent as you might hope it to be, when taken over a long period, since microsoft has this nasty habit of reinventing the wheel for no particular reason.
For instance the 'users' folder...
Which didn't exist prior to windows Vista...
Linux meanwhile I know is pretty much a standard unix filesystem structure, for better or worse.
I personally loathe Unix with a passion, so... Eh.
But it has it's own logic.
Not one I'm overly familiar with (you know. That whole disdain for unix thing does kinda get in the way. XD) but it seemed sensible enough when I have dealt with it, even though it's different to the logic of windows - which is in turn an extension of the logic of DOS, which is in itself a distortion of the logic of CP/M's file structure.
Of course, over the years I've also dealt with the macintosh file system (not it's modern iteration which is a hybrid once again built on a unix derivative, ugh. - it's original form), which has a bunch of odd quirks of it's own.
And I've also had to deal with Atari DOS... Which, despite the name isn't much like MS-DOS.
For one thing, it doesn't have a command line to speak of. The entire OS is driven by a text based menu tree.
Of course, being a DOS used with 5.25 inch floppies of 130k or less, and almost never anything more complex, there's little to no filesystem structure to speak of.
File names follow a similar logic to MS-DOS, with a 3 letter extension, but the actual filenames are I believe up to 12 or maybe even 16 characters long.
Also drives are numbered; Which largely didn't matter because most people only had a single drive - but the original operating systems supported up to 4 drives... (1 to 4) while later custom operating systems supported up to 15. (0-9 and J,K,L,M,N and O - because who needs consistency anyway, right? XD)
Since you can also read and write files from within Basic, it's worth noting that the CIO subsystem treats external devices in a fairly uniform manner.
Only the tape drive read/write logic has any special treatment (even though it's also accessible through the CIO system) - as long as you're using the OS ROM to do it - which you can (and will) of course bypass for some uses, you can write to the screen, a printer, a disk drive, modem or anything of the sort using the same IO logic.
You can also read from the keyboard the same way.
In the case of such devices instead of opening a numbered drive, you open a letter corresponding to the device. (Although, actually, through this particular mechanism, opening a file on disk requires specifying something like "D2:File.BAS" - you can also use D: by itself, which defaults to being equivalent to D1)
The named devices are:
K: - Keyboard (input only)
P: - Line printer (output only)
C: - Program recorder (eg. Tape drive)
Dx: - Disk Drive (x being the numbers as already mentioned)
E: - Screen editor, basically a hybrid of the K: and S: devices, used for interactive text entry, like the basic editor itself.
S: - The screen. You can both read and write to this. Presumably this is actually modifying the active video memory. Probably the single most frequently bypassed/ignored device, for fairly obvious reasons. (not least of which that you can write directly to memory and get the same effect, mostly.)
R: This is an RS-232 interface. Even though the Atari computers don't physically have an RS-232 compliant port, they have the logic to work with one, if it is attached somehow.
The thing about all of these is that these named device letters work the same way; You write or read from any of them, and you'll get consistent behaviour.
Anyway, that doesn't really matter - it just shows how much the logic of this stuff can vary.
I'm honestly surprised the concept of a 'file' and 'directory' has been so universally consistent, since there are other metaphors that could have been used.
(same with the 'desktop' idea. This isn't the only way to present a UI, but it's become a fairly universal metaphor...)
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Actually I did the opposite, been using Debian/kde at home for a while now, configured everything as I needed, documentation everywhere. It was nice, super stable, just a little glitch on the graphical interface(nvidia) when waking up but not so serius to try to fix. But yeah, turns boring when you are trying to practice your skills on linux since it works really well. Then switched to Manjaro/kde, to my surprise with aur/snap/flat repos so integrated y have made less use of the console, but instead I found solving some services not enabling themselves when installing from this repos so did it myself. So I've to resolve more issues in Manjaro than in Debian, but it keeps me awake thas was what I was looking for. So Debian you set your stuff and you forget about it, its so stable that its boring haha. I keep my Debian image in my bakups just if
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Krita is not any slower than GIMP... But it can in some cases be slower than photoshop, still, for example in the case of brush engines, krita does indeed have slower brushes than photoshop, but it has significantly more versatile brush engines than photoshop allowing for greater customization, as a tradeoff.
I bet if you had choppiness with MPV, you were using an upscaling algorithm that was just too much for your hardware, or not using the opengl renderer, try an mpv front-end like media player classic qt, see how it works, it should have the gl renderer on by default.
I know, steamplay is better than POL for games though :D that's why I wanted to mention it. To tell the truth though, I wasn't aware photoshop could run properly through wine until I saw this video, last I checked a few years ago it wouldn't work right.
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Thx for the video Dorian.
I've used Mandriva, Mint, MX, Lite, Peppermint, Manjaro and finally settled in with Antergos xfce.
I'm a non-gamer, non-developer with older hardware. Give me a browser, LibreOffice, Thunderbird and Gimp and I'm happy.
What I need is speed, simplicity and a smidge of customizabilty. I'm not interested in bloat. Antergos Xfce delivered exactly the kind of out-of-the-box experience I desired. Plus, it stays up-to-date perpetually! No reinstalls! No PPAs!
I give it 2 thumbs up for all but the noobiest of noobs (for which I recommend Linux Lite or elementary).
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@Doriandotslash That's true, and a fair point. But couldn't these path names (and the commands that you mentioned) be upgraded with the times? For example, old MSDOS had it's 8.3 filename structure, but today, filenames can be 255 characters long. Likewise, as Linux has evolved from MINIX to ext, ext2, ext3, and now ext4, the file structures (and commands) could evolve as well. (Yes, I know about setting up command aliases... Maybe the same thing could be done with file and folder names, using a "human readable" name instead of /sbin/ or something along those lines.)
GREAT video though. It really does a great job in explaining the fundamentals of the "directory layout" concept.
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Yeah, weak/slow connections are terrible with software like vanilla pacman. If you are open to suggestions, maybe with Powerpill which uses aria2 to download would get you settled. And of course, if you take a while to update on arch, it's always good refresh the mirrorlist with Reflector, which will get the best, fastest, closest mirrors at the time for the system, you decide which priorities to regenerate the mirrorlist, it's highly configurable. It becomes doable in such slow internet connections, when you are in a pinch.
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People do the same with GNU. It even uses a Gnu as the mascot, which is pronounced Nu, but I hear it all the time "Guh-Nu". It seems to be a recent thing, past 5ish years or so, because I've been using Linux off and on since 1998/1999 and I don't ever remember hearing the hard Gs other than with GIMP and GTK. Gnome was always Nome, GNU was always Nu, etc.
I also refuse to call them "G-IFs". It's pronounced Jif. It always has been. The original creator has stated it on several occasions, even within the last few years. For 2+ decades I called them Jifs, no one asked what I was talking about. I called them Jifs when I first saw them in the late '80s, not because of anything I'd heard (actually never heard the "choosy developers choose GIF" phrase until maybe 2000/2001) but just by reading the file extension Jee Eye Eff, sounds like Jif, same way JPG sounds like Jay Peg when you spell it out phonetically.
I suppose this is my "get off my lawn" moment.
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Really like the way you try to explain this. Linux is a bit of a shock to the system for most windows crossovers. New to linux myself, spent a month looking and distro hopping. Learnt a lot, but was frustrating too. Some Linux users are a little special sometimes. Coming from having used dos through to win 10, linux does feel a little janky at times, getting things how you want, although sometimes more customisable than windows, its not always easy or straight forward (careful of misinformation.). Anyone out there looking for the perfect distro, forget it, its not going to happen, find one that you can customize to your taste imo. I found that so far in endeavorOS (KDE), pamac-all package gui, and added chaotic repos (from garuda OS). So far very happy. I highly recommend. Others distros to note, Manjaro (nice all round package, stable, with a slower type rolling release, but limited on own repos). Garuda (similar to manjaro, but uses arch repos + their own AUR chaotic, a unique take on memory usage and insistent on the use of brtfs with snapshot recovery, use of zen kernel as default and have some lovely utils for tweaking the system) and then there is Mint, the cinnamon creators, probably the best debian/ubuntu based distro IMO and cinnamon is a very nice DE (although some what limited). Only 1 I say to avoid, Ubuntu gamepak, its a lie, not even really ubuntu, its shady, bloated and not trust worthy and has not benefit over regular Ubuntu (they just trying to sell their "Crossover" proprietary crap that you eventually have to pay for).
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G'day Dorian, there's also AlmaLinux, I've downloaded that a few weeks ago, I think the boot iso was the first one I tried had no luck with that, the other download was somewhere in the size of 11GB :O lol My workplace IT asked if I knew of a replacement for Centos I told him I'd look around, he's looking to plan a future replacement, He occasionally watches my videos, I told him I know nothing about the server side of things, however he may find the installation options interesting, didn't know about Rocky, except for the boxer Hahahaha!! I might check that out! thanks for the vid mate. .
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Yeah, you're right about the outdated packages, that's still mostly the case. But it wasn't too much of a concern for me. I set it up mostly for my friends and family who wanted an OS for basic stuff (surfing, videos, music, some basic games even...). I installed it with Budgie on some kind of older hardware (all of them circa 2011) and it ran pretty smooth, not to mention that everyone was amazed of how good and fresh it looked. Flatpaks...errr, yeah... but not my cup of tea, to be honest.
Anyway, I kept solus on my old laptop that everyone in the house can use (good old, reliable and hellishly ugly Dell laptop with 2nd gen i5), but my daily driver is Mint/Cinnamon that I use since 2013 for all my work, programming and pretty much everything else. I don't really think it's "the best ever" or some stupid thing like that, but I tried several other distros and I always get back to it. It never failed me. And yes, Debian - although I really thought of it as the papa of my Mint, I never really dared to go for it. Never really thought of myself as linux expert enough for it, idk... :D Gonna go watch your latest video on it, who knows... maybe this is the time ;) Thanks once again!
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I run ZFS on Ubuntu, because I had a lot of music file corruption due to frequent power fails. File corruption due to power/hardware issues is impossible with ZFS , due to the "Copy on Write". ZFS also has the following advantages:
- Support of all RAID configurations.
- I use it with striping of HDD partitions (~RAID-0) using HDDs of different size (2.5"/3.5" and 320GB, 500GB and 1TB)
- Snapshots per dataset (main folder), love it.
- Writing copies of the same sector to 2 striped HDDs, correcting sector read errors, but 1 disk failure still kills all data.
- Compression (lz4 or gzip-x) per dataset (main folder).
- AMD StoreMI/Intel SRT type support, two level caching, dynamically sized memory cache and fixed SSD cache/datapool.
- 200-250 MB/s read throughput for DD Utility or zfs scrub on 3 leftover HDDs without any SSD caching.
- Virtualbox machines (VM) boot time is 30-60 seconds, reboot time 7-40 seconds. Win 7/10 are the slowest. Xubuntu/Ubuntu Mate the fastest.
I use it with a 2008 HP dc5850 maxed out to 8GB DDR2 and a 4 core AMD Phenom II. I do not use a SSD yet. I doubt, whether it brings very much (see also the last paragraph). The memory cache fluctuates between 1GB and 3GB dependent on the memory requirements of my VMs.
I also use ZFS on my i5-2520m laptop (8GB DDR3) with one 1TB SSHD (8GB solid state part), so I have de facto 2 level caching, but uncoordinated. Initial boot times of the VMs are 10%-20% faster, reboot times mainly from memory cache are the same. SSD part runs at 200MB/s, HDD part at ~100MB/s.
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