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  377. @Bob Saunders Seriously? Seriously? The whole Brexit campaign was built upon what if this and maybe that. Many of it proven lies. The EU aren't commenting on it because its not their business, it would be diplomatically quite inappropriate for them to do so really, interfering with a sovereign states politics like that. Unionists would go apeshit at them. Would you, for example, think its at all appropriate for the UK to start saying openly 'Catalonia, if you leave we'll trade with you, provide this etc etc'? Of course not, it would incredibly inflammatory and inappropriate. For the SNP not having a plan, if they don't have one when they have the referendum then I'll agree with you. For now its fine that there is no clear vision. Sturgeon I believe has said many times, there WILL be a plan. I actually think it makes sense to not get bogged down in debates like that until the referendum is planned to be honest as it would be an easy point of attack for Unionists who want to deflect, delay and confuse the issue. So yeah, let them have the vote, if there is no plan, have a go. For now thats a lame duck excuse, as is the one about currency (since there already is separation and other countries have changed currency entirely, I live in one that did) and them having a 300 year history isn't relevant since ROI broke off and did fine. The excuses you make for it being hard are fictitious or flimsy. Even if its a mistake, its still their mistake to make. England should but its nose out let them figure it out for themselves. The EU didn't meddle in the UK's Brexit referendum, England shouldn't meddle in Scotland's, but it will cause it still wants to control it.
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  383.  @entropy5431  have you ever driven a boat buddy? You can’t just throw a rope at another boat and take them where you want nor ‘block the road’ to stop them. In practical terms the French can escort them, board them or sink them…. They are doing the most ethical thing by escorting them and helping if they are in distress. If the boat sinks and the French take them onboard then take them to the UK then yeah, ok, thats an issue but show me that happening. As for the EU just ‘letting in illegals’ um, no. The EU had migration policies. The people you call ‘illegals’ are claiming refugee status, now some or many of these may be bogus claims and those people trying to illegal emmigrate in bad faith, BUT, under the Dublin convention (I believe) we need to offer them asylum and investigate their claim. The UK has the same obligation and, like I said, gets far far less of these people than the rest of the EU. Germany takes the lions share already. The UK should be ashamed of villifying these people. The ones who are discovered as illegal get sent home. Others do not cause this evil social decline or cost as you claim. Annecdotally, my ex partner was born in Iraq. Her family fled to Europe when she was a child, she grew up in Europe and became a human rights lawyer in the UN helping people, the stories of the desperate people she daily fought for were very moving. She is a better person than either of us here. I also know some twins who each summer run a summer camp, its aimed for underprivledged kids and refugees. They told me a story of one of their kids who would wake up each night screaming cause of her nightmares that Gadaffi was bombing her house. A kid thats about 9 years old shouldnt have to deal with that and we shouldnt treat them like leppers. Your comment on the economic and social cost is ill informed. Refugees do not cost us a significant amount and its a worthy cause, its sucks some illegals try to abuse it but it doesnt excuse our moral duty to help refugees. Most work hard and enrich the country and contribute more in taxes than they cost. Likely you’ll be the type of person who bemoans things like ‘white people won’t be a majority’ and ‘Birmingham will be 70% Muslim’ or something. Now I hear that concern of Islamic culture taking overa city. However look at where these people came from. Thats not from boats of refugees, illegal immigrants or EU migration. Its from external, legal migration the UK allowed. The UK always retained control of migration from outside the EU. They let a bunch of people in who settled here and this is the effect. They are now British citizens and here to stay. The UK caused the situation, not the EU. Take responsibility if you don’t like it and stop blaming France for realistically, is a tiny tiny number of people.
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  559.  @dm0065  Nono, its way more insidious than that. What they do is basically outsource certain things to private companies. Some of this isn't new, for example cleaning services have been outsourced for decades. A large company provides all the staff and services to clean the hospital. The hospital has zero responsibility for hiring, managing, supplies etc. To make more profit often the standards drop and staff are given too much to do at a decent standard. I've seen this first hand where our cleaners just didn't turn up because someone was off sick and they were just given someone elses workload ontop of theirs, they were always short staffed. Same happened with maintenance and they have minimum costs for doing things, we actually migrated from an old Victoria hospital to a new PFI build and part of the PFI contract was all maintenance would be handled by the PFI owner (outsourced) so when I called up one of our maintenance guys (who uses to be in house) to drill a hole in the wall to hand a clock from he told me that we should find something else cause its gonna cost £85, the minimum callout charge. Previously he'd just pop over with his drill and sort it. Now what is happening is they are also outsourcing medical services, things like elective surgeries, xrays etc etc. Private companies looooove this services because they are standardised, and standardised stuff is very easy to get efficient and maximise profit. They don't take over things like A+E because they are a black hole of money, you always need a bunch of staff there if there is an emergency and its so volatile it just sucks money in. Hospitals typically cover this costs by being funded more than they need per patient for things like elective stuff and running at a loss in places like A+E, the money is moved around and the hospital stays afloat, just about. But when you outsource elective stuff to a private company they take those profits from elective surgeries and leave the A+E department to rot and the hospital to just go deep in the red. They also do things like not provide adequate equipment or support for post surgery care, we used to get calls from Bupa patients who had a new knee or hip, had a lovely room and great food, but were sent home with nothing and couldn't even use the toilet. We'd then, for free since we couldnt get funding for them as they weren't treated by us, provide them equipment and assessments to make sure they could cope and not hurt themselves. This should be covered in the cost of a patient getting a new hip, but Bupa just took that as profit. (Just incase you don't know how NHS funding works, a hospital is paid by the local health authority for every patient they treat, so lets say replacing a hip costs £10,000 then for each one the hospital does they get that amount of funding, this is what allows NHS hospitals to compete against each other for patients to drive standards up and give us the choice to go to the best hospital).
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  568.  @entropy5431  looks like Youtube deleted my reply. I own two boats, I know the terminolgy. In many other languages they have different verbs for operating a boat with a sail vs one with a motor. In English we don’t. Its sailing or skippering and driving is the closest approximation in this context. Its a perfectly reasonable way to describe it. The UK is to blame for its own issues. The Home Office is inept and loses track of anyone who enters. They should process these people and send illegals home. If the UK were so concerned by refugees they should have proposed to the EU some sort of settlement and relocation scheme to spread the load to all members. The uncomfortable truth is the UK actually takes in very few though and that would result in more refugees. I have another annecdote of the Home Office being useless. Whilst working at a hospital on the Stroke ward we had a foreign woman in one of our beds. She was at that point overstaying her visa and wanted to leave but didnt have the means. We contacted the Home Office daily to try and get her home as she was bed blocking and those beds are very expensive, classic drain on resources case right? The Home Office simply didnt care and said they cannot help….. After a week the Consultant bought the ticket herself and the woman went home. Look internally for the issues. Blame your Government. They could effectively deal with these boats if they wanted. Process the legitimate ones and help then settle, send back the illegals. Instead they let them in, lose track and never follow up, when presented with an actual illegal case they just shrug their shoulders. If they actually did their job perhaps more illegals could be discouraged. Stop blaming the EU and take internal responsibility.
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  944.  @d_dave7200  you’re still being arrogant and condescending. By saying things like charity is ‘not entirely the domain of religious people’ you are basically inferring religious people do charity and atheists just help. Its frankly insulting. Especially since you think you have the high ground on conscience. Charity is charity. Its done by all sorts of backgrounds and atheists arent doing it for a reward from a god. Its not the domain of religious people or not. You want people who know about charity involved, cool, then lets get Lords in there that get their title based on running or helping great charity organizations with their faith or lack of not being part of the equation. I’d argue the ‘conscience’ of the crusty old white anglican church members actually often can hold us back also, and issues such as gay rights, trans rights, womens rights, abortion rights and sexual health they are often stuck in an outdated mindset resulting pain and suffering in some of those groups. As I said, represent a plurality of faiths but also representative of the population so it should not have too much influence. Ego check yourself, religious people are not, by default, more moral than non-religious, or more charitable, or responsible for more good. There are a great number of selfish, petty, arrogant and immoral religious folk around, same with atheists. Stop thinking you are ‘better’ somehow, cause all you’ll do is piss the rest of us off with that condescension and we’ll put you in your place.
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  1075.  @holypaladin4657  saying that the UK doesnt need the EU to prosper is like saying you dont need both legs to run a marathon. Its absolutely true but you’ve gone and made it much harder by lopping off your leg. I think you are incredibly naive to the power the UK had in the EU and that funding we paid in, in turn benefited us. There is a huge deficit now in research grants and places like Cornwall are left with a huge lack of funding (they counted as an impoverished area so the EU gave them money). The benefits of that trading bloc and frictionless trade were huge, just like having two legs in a marathon. As for the argument of ‘but countries like Greece cost us’, well yes, true. However thats part of the deal is making a trading bloc, it only works from the bloc maintaining standards and all growing. It sucks sometimes that you need to give more help to a neighbour but keeping them healthy helps stop you from collapsing also. Together ape strong, the Brexit argument is the UK is strong alone, which it never has been in its history, infact if you know your history you’ll see how the isolation ideas have been a disaster in the past and how in the late 40’s and 50’s Britain trying to ‘go it alone’ was awful. You’ve been conned by the Brexit lies and the romantic ideas of a strong powerful independent Britain that was always a unicorn, the fact you claim the EU was spiteful when they basically bent over backwards to try to accomodate every possible Brexit that wouldnt violate their trade rules shows your dogmatic view on this rather than objective. The UK goverment kept asking for something impossible and tried to break international law, its a wonder any country still want to deal with us.
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  1124.  @James-sh4zf  I worked in the NHS from 2007 to 2015. It would take too long to list all the jobs I had there and not sure why that is relevant? As for moving on from Blair and Iraq, funny cause he’s back and promoting Starmer (didnt support Corbyn) and Starmer loves Blair and has basically brought all his politics back. You arrogantly claim that I havent seen Starmers politics. I have, I watch it every day, I watch PMQs whenever they are on (meaning I can listen myself and decide) and listen to various political commentators to gain other perspectives. The fundamental difference is you believe the lie that Starmer and Labour will save the NHS, its absurd, especially if you actually knew how collossal the damage was from 2007 to now. The amount of radical reform he’d need to do is impossible from him as its not just the NHS, its all the social services that were gutted forcing people into hospitals, without those back the NHS cannot recover. So you see, we both know the Tories will continue to kill the NHS. However I believe Labour, under Starmer, will placate many of you who think he’ll save the NHS but will still set it up to fail giving even more ammo to right wingers who want to abolish it by claiming even more money doesnt fix it also resulting its in death. So I actually choose the third option, knowing neither party will save it and supporting other progressive parties to try to shift our politics away from apathy and tolerating the lesser evil and back to the aspirational, radical changes we had in 1945
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  1283.  @TheRagdollrejects  No, what I'm doing is asserting you are the type of person that doesn't give a shit if your neighbours house is on fire as long as you are fine aswell as removing yourself from any responsibility. The UK is responsible, its a representative democracy, I was against the war too but my country did it and as a citizen I must accept that as a country we are responsible. Your selfish attitude towards asylum seekers says what it needs to, you only care about yourself. Someone needs to help them, but not me. Its precisely that arrogant attitude that prevents any deal with the EU, which is the point. Far too many Brexiteers have this entitled attitude that they are the ones in charge, they are the ones who should have all the control, power and clout and other nations must help themselves. Its contrary to the fundamental idea of the common marketplace which is about co-operating with each other for the greater good. So no, the EU isnt making the UK capitulate. Its saying if you want to be part of this co-operation then co-operate. The UK is the one trying to make the EU capitulate by refusing to negotiate, running out the clock and using Ireland as a bargaining chip. But sure, go on removing responsibility for fixing issues in the world and blaming the EU for everything wrong. I'm sure it makes it easier to have such a selfish mindset to lie to yourself so you can sleep at night. I hope you're one of the boomers (since you have the attitude of one) so in a couple of decades we can stop having to deal with all your selfish attitudes and get on with fixing the world.
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