Comments by "Freedom" (@freedomordeath89) on "Inside The DNR, The Russia-Backed Region Clashing With Ukraine (HBO)" video.

  1. Pleas.e.you don't wage a war for 2 years, you don't arm thousands of men, you dont organize logistics, armoured forces, supplies, munitions and technological weapons WITHOUT a NATIONAL ECONOMY to abck you up. Russia support for the Donbass is IMPOSSIBLE TO DENY. There's no way that the rebels could defeat Ukraine's NATIONAL army without Russia's help. Also Putin ADMITTED the involvment in an interview. Also we got proof of russian soldiers in Donbass and Crimea.
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  2. The main reason is because the referendum happened AFTER THE INVASION OF CRIMEA! WITH RUSSIAN SOLDIERS IN THE STREETS! And 1.4 million REFUGEES that FLED AWAY FROM CRIMEA! Basically all those who were left were either scared or the russian army or were the small minority of pro russians that actually GAINED shit from the invasion..like new governament position, fundings from Russia etc...its all about the power.
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  3. hahahahah you are the one full of shit dude! Just answer one question: will you? If the rebels are armed with black market's weapons.... Who gave em T90s? The most advanced tank actually used ONLY BY THE RUSSIAN ARMY? And how come there's RUSSIAN SOLDIERS POSTING THEIR PHOTOS WHILE DOING MILITAR OPERATIONS IN UKRAINE? Answer please.
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  4. https://burkonews.info/russian-t-90-tanks-136th-motorized-rifle-brigade-luhansk-region/ No, its not REBELS..its RUSSIAN SOLDIERS There's plenty fo russian soldiers retards posting their photoes on VK..getting CAUGHT beeing in mission in Ukraine..then their profiles suddently disappear! What a coincidence! VICE found one of them. Google it. They even interviewed him. There's no way the rebels can DEFEAT multiple times the Ukrainian army in OPEN BATTLEFIELD. Have you seen the fuckign news? The Ukrainians are losing houndreads of men and tens of armoured vehicles..how do you think that some "rebels" armed with "black market AKs" can do that? How do you "smuggle" TANKS and MUNITIONS for a FULL SCALE WAR? DOn't be silly. " lmao they took that back" They were in Crimea even BEFORE the referendum, before anything happened. During Maidan. GOOGLE IT! Google the "russian little green man". They took over all the ukrainian bases in one night with soldiers WITHOUT INSIGNIA! It was ALL PLANNED by the russian. Don't feed me your bullshit, you don't take over Crimea in one night by chance, they were planning it since weeks. "whatever Soviet weapon Russia has Ukraine has it too." No, the rebel sodliers kits are Russian made..top gear from the early 2000s..look it up..plus most of their tanks are upgraded T72s that Ukraine doesnt even have! ukraine is getting their ass kicked ALSO because of the rebels having better equipment. HOW SO? I know that T72s look all the same BUT the 1972 models are not the same as the T72 BCDEFGHA12132112412 upgraded models used TODAY by russia and the rebels. Or we could talk about ammunition. How are your beloved Rebels keeping a constant flow of AT missles, artillery projectile, fuel, food, munitions etc? And I hope you know that it can't possibly be produced in Donbass itself ;-) Russian presence in donbass is A FACT! Even putin admitted it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/12054164/Vladimir-Putins-annual-press-conference-2015-live.html Why do you BELIVE this guy? Its clear that you are BIASED towards him. PS PLEASE stop saying shit like "lmao" we are talking about fucking LIVES BEEING LOST. I'm not here to talk with a fucking entitled kid who wants to be edgy on the interweb.
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  5. I cited plenty of different sources dude..funny how you CAN'T ANSWER..I wrote like 500 lines..all you could write back was this 1 line whine about one source. Wow. That tells alot about YOU.
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  6. Dude..we all know that youa r ejust an alt-right butthurt kid that would liek to defend Putin but is faced with the shti he did in Ukraine and now you are trying to shift the discussion from the shithole that was caused by your beloved leader to some retarded whining about "western media beeing biased" What a non sequitur Stick to the SUBJECT: is or isn't russia responsable fo a bloody, pointless and undemocratic civil war? Don't shift the goalpost.
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  7. Well...cna't balme young peopel fro runnign away from it ;-) Old people can't so they stay...men run away or enlist, women ge the hell out fo warzone!
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  8. ALSO how are they getting 4000 or more medals in 2014 alone for COMBAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS if they are "volunteers"? ANSWER http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/09/06/russian-combat-medals-put-lie-to-putins-claim-of-no-russian-troops-in-ukraine/#1dc95173a0f8
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  9. http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-soldiers-social-ukraine-2014-7?IR=T
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  10. Here these are form 2016..happy now? +ghenghis gaming https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-kalmyk-soldiers-got-lost-steppes-ukraine/
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  11. ALSO whent hey CREATED UKRAINE in 1991. Lugansk Oblast voted as follows: 83.86% of votes in the oblast were in favor of the Declaration of Independence of Ukraine. And Donestk: 83.90% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_independence_referendum,_1991 Now please, I hope you do know what this implies? Right? Thats a PERMANENT THING, when you CREATE A STATE you DONT GET A CHANCE TO VOTE AGAINST IT THEN! THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS! Texas can't get out of the US! Siberia can't get out of Russia! Donestk can't exit form Ukraine! Also, official surveys show that % of russian support was close to the one of 1991..5-7%..... Unless you thinkt hat people magiclaly changed their mind so DRASTICALLY in 20 years......statistically its IMPOSSIBLE to go to 84% to 10-20% as the Russian claim. Its statistically impossible. This is just Russia trying to rebuild their lost empire. Nothing more. http://dt.ua/UKRAINE/lishe-3-ukrayinciv-hochut-priyednannya-yih-oblasti-do-rosiyi-160641_.html And contemporary surveys say that these regions didnt actualyl want to join russia..this may eb inflated numbers by the Kiev governament..still its really, really far from the claims of the russians, even if inflated.
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  12. NO WAIT! YOU CAN'T BE POSSIBLY BE THAT DENSE AND IN DENIAL! Are you SERIOUSLY implying that there were Russian soldiers "before" but "now" there's none' ARE YOU SERIOUSLY MAKING THIS RETARDED CLAIM? Do I really need to CONSTANTLY prove that theres russian soldiers? if I find a proof about yesterday will YOU SAY:" yeah there were russian yesterday, but what about today?" ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME OR ARE YOU FOR REAL?????? " if they try to get into the Separatists territory." HOW ARE THE REBELS DESTROYIGN UKRAINIANS ARMOURED BRIGADES? HOW? THROWING STONES AT THEM???? " Most of their stuff is captured from Ukrainians troops " NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT DO A FULL SCALE WAR FOR 2 YEARS WITH CAPTURED STUFF! AMMUNITION IS NOT ENDLESS! DO you have ANY IDEA how much ammunition and supplies are needed in modern warfare? Are you kidding me? "meaning they most likely no longer be there." NO! Why would ahve they left? Why? Russians lost like 1000 soldiers from unofficial sources..they spent billions in this war..WHY WOULD THEY LEAVE NOW AFTER 2 YEARS??? WHAT???? "I asked for a video " Are you RETARDED? Who's gonna film russians and then come back and show us? Are you fucking drunk? How are we supposed to get near a fucking Russian armored company, film them close enough to spot the interesting details and then come back? Are you retarded? Who's gonna do that? Where is YOUR PROOF that they "left"?????? "not Russian volunteers." OH MY FUCKIGN GOD! THERES NO SUCH THING AS A VOLUNTEER! YOU CAN'T CROSS THE BORDER WITHA TANK! YOU CAN'T DESERT THE RUSSIAN ARMY FOR SOME MONTHS TO GO IN UKRAINE AND THEN GO BACK! HOW DO YOU EVEN THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE???? My god kid..you are completely ind enial..answer MY POINTS and stop avoiding em with silly excuses as "gimme video and not photos" or "gime me proof of them beeing there TODAY and not yesterday" I see you don't look at facts but you are entrenched on your dogmatic position. This is IDEOLOGICAL for you. You CANT ACCEPT beeing wrong. No point in continuing this if you can't accept that you could have been wrong.
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  13. ALSO I don't see the point of bitchign about "today" since NOW there's a fucking ceasefire so OBVIOUSLY no one is fucking fighting (almost)..so what's your fucking point? What if the Russians are respecting the ceasfire NOW? HOW IS THAT RELEVANT? How does that deny any of the things I have proven? How does that change the fact that Russia is resupplying and organizing the rebels, giving them support, building em as a puppet state, spitting propaganda, lying and playing dishonest tricks? HOW DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING?
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  14. "would have no one to back" you don't need a MAJORITY fo supporters, you jsut need a few war-like, aggressive trained ones. The Nazis started of as just a few thousands. Same for Mussolini . YOu get the control fot he army and then the civilians won't do anything. What cna they do? We got plenty fo proofs that in Crimea and Donbass the "rebels" acted swiftly and in COORDINATION WITH RUSSIAN TROOPS and in only a night OCCUPIED OR SURROUNDED ALL UKRAINIAN BASES , disarmed the soldiers, took over the police stations and the administration buildings. After that we got plenty fo videos of pro-ukraine people who TRIED to protest..tehy got beaten. Many fled. 1.4 people fled Crimea to Ukraine. In most videos you see only old people around..why? ebcause who could already fled. Don't try to feed me this "the majority wants to join Russia bullshit" Thats not even an argument. GO READ WHAT INTERNATIONAL LAW IS! YOU CAN'T SIMPLY ANNEX ONE REGION BECAUSE THEY "want to join me " or better, if you CLAIM THEY WANT TO! For exemple we got PROOF that in Crimea before the referendum pro-ukraine people were ostracized or worse. Then during the elections there were RUSSIAN SOLDIERS IN FRONT OF THE ELECTORAL BUILDINGS! How is that a FAIR REFERENDUM? its a joek, organized in a week to justify the Russian annexation of Crimea and Donbass..guess what? Even hitler made these MAGICAL referendums in Austria, Czech republic and so on! How is that an argument? By that standard Russia could invade Scotland claimign that they "don't want to eb in england"..how is that a validargument? ". I doubt they are stationed there full-time," Exactly..they rotate all the time..go back home..post shit on VK and give us proofs! Thank god that they are retarded and don't understand intelligence. " the separatists as an actual political force" wWhat is their "political ideology"? They ar ejust TOOLS that see profit in allyign with russia. Theres no difference with Ukraine or Russia'..they are both shit economies...shit won't change jsut ebcause you change flag..also years and years of war won't help ANYONE! Thats why in INTERNATIONAL LAW we established that supporting separatists without GOOD CAUSES (genocide etc) SHOULD BE AVOIDED because it what caused thousands of wars in history. " you need to work on your English somewhat." im writing 1000000 lines ona youtube comment section..I ain't even looking at grammar or syntax or anything I don't have time to write shit in a proper way.
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  15. "proof have not been amde public" no shit sherlock..russia is not gonna simply admit it..they rely on YOU TOOLS to keep supporting their fucking apologistic excuses. ANSWER THESE POINTS: "ANSWER PLEASE: -how are russians oldiers getting COMBAT MEDALS -how are they able to post photos in Ukraine with their units and tanks -who is sending ammunitions and fuel to the rebels -who is coordinating them? (tanks+infantry+communications+intelligence? it all self created? Do you really think that a bunh of paesants built a perfectly functioning modern army ALONE? AHAHAH) -how are they getting the strenght, coordination etc to attack and CONQUER LAND against a national army in OPEN FIELDS? (this ain't vietnam and ain't afghanistan..) -how do you eplain the thousands of russian soldiers dead in these years? how did they die? -how do you explain captured equipmnet, photos of russian only equipment? -How do you explain the "little green men" in Crimea? -How do you explaint he russian journalisst pieces about the russian intervention? ANSWER ANSWER PS...you..the guy who keeps tlakign about obscure "westerners strong powers" supporting "coup d'etat" in ukraine and "neo nazis" are accusing ME of beeign a conspiracy theorist? AHAHAHAHAHAH YOU ARE REALLY GRASPING AT STRAWS!
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  16. "most people in Crimea". That doesnt justify an invasion you dipshit. Otherwise Mexico would be allowed to invade California. Use your brains you PutinJudgen. " citizens of Crimea where happy to be part of Russia again. " if they were so "happy" why did 1.4 millions LEFT crimea? Why did they need SOLDIERS during the Referendum? Why did they need to take over the whole peninsula BEFOREaskign for a referendum? PLEASE Dont be that naive.
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  17. But yeah, I've probably confused the number of DONBASS refugees to Ukraine with the ones from Crimea. Still its a fact. The MAJORITY of those who could flee those 2 regions did. THose who remained are either too poor, too old to flee or are the idealogues that support the rebels. I mean..look at any video about the rebel held areas and look at the NUMBERS of old people compared to young ones.
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  18. BTW demographic numbers in wars are pointless...Prussia was 90% german before WW2..go look at its demographics now.
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  19. trueway82 ...during WW2 the SS had Tartar-muslims battalions.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars http://stosstruppen39-45.tripod.com/id10.html
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  20. AHHAHAHA I GAVE YOU THE FUCKING PROOFS! ILL KEEP COPY PASTING UNTILL YOU STOP BEEING IN DENIAL AAHHAHAHA "ANSWER PLEASE: -how are russians oldiers getting COMBAT MEDALS -how are they able to post photos in Ukraine with their units and tanks -who is sending ammunitions and fuel to the rebels -who is coordinating them? (tanks+infantry+communications+intelligence? it all self created? Do you really think that a bunh of paesants built a perfectly functioning modern army ALONE? AHAHAH) -how are they getting the strenght, coordination etc to attack and CONQUER LAND against a national army in OPEN FIELDS? (this ain't vietnam and ain't afghanistan..) -how do you eplain the thousands of russian soldiers dead in these years? how did they die? -how do you explain captured equipmnet, photos of russian only equipment? -How do you explain the "little green men" in Crimea? -How do you explaint he russian journalisst pieces about the russian intervention? " I noticed that you start losing your confidence HAAHHAHA not so sure anymore, are we? First you strongly denied any intervention..than you started with the "even if its real i don't care" ..now you say that its "just speculations" HAHAHAHAHAH This jsut shows that your position is BIASED and not supported by FACTS but by your POLITICAL BIAS!
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  21. I see you are just an edgy kid and you have no clue how important this subject is. You don't have the mental tools to keep such a discussion. Goodbye kiddo. Go be edgy somewhere else. We are talking about human lives here.
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  22. Thats what I wrote. If you took the time to read my comment...
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  23. Yep..thats what I was hinting at ;-) A bunch of "innocent ciivlians unharmed" cannot stop a National Army.
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  24. "During the maidan riots, a few dozen of unarmed civilians stopped advancing on Kiev 25 aeromobile brigade." Its DIFFERENT..during Maidan they werent at WAR. They were not using artillery and tanks..a crowd can stop the army by OCCUPYING the streets and protesting, but NOW in Eastern Ukraine the Urkainian army is beeing DEFEATED in OPEN FIELD. Thats IMPOSSIBLE unless Russians are involved. "begin to arm when saw" Oh eyah because weapons, training and plans and munitions grow on trees. Please..you are retarded.
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  25.  @toolbox6740  what?
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  26. " why do people In Eastern Ukraine take off flags" seriosuyl? Again with this bullshit? BECAUSE THE PRO UKRAINE ONES EITHER FLED OR ARE FUCKING SCARED! Even in 1940 Belgiumt here were pro nazis parading the streets after the invasion..does that mean that Belgium was nazi? OR MAYBE that the victors will use THEIR INTERNAL SUPPORTERS AS A PROPAGANDA TOOL?
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  27. +genghis Gaming NOW there's a CEASEFIRE ina ct. Before it there were a couple abttles in which the Ukrainian amy was BADLY DEFEATED. Thats why the ceasefire was accepted...the russians are HAPPY with it because it means they hold donbass and Crimea and can still PRETEND not to be involved. "referendum inc rimea" No, tis nto real..you cna't held a referendum witha rifle pointing at the people...and AFTER you invaded the region. YOu should ahve done it BEFORE. Aslo for the LAST TIME. REFERENDUMS AR ENOT A RECOGNIZED TOOL IN INTERNATIONAL LAW! A Referendum CANNOT CREATE NEW COUNTRIES! STUDY SOME POLITICS PLEASE! "This caused the war^" I didnt ask you the causes...I asked you HOW COULD THEY DEFEAT A REGULAR ARMY IN OPEN FIELD! "The only time Russian troops fought was in 2014." We got reports from 2015..and 2016... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbass#Into_the_new_year:_escalation_in_January_2015 ""In October 2015, The Washington Post reported that Russia has redeployed some of its elite units from Ukraine to Syria in recent weeks to support Syrian President Bashar al-Assad." NONSESNE. Russia ahs MILLIONS OF MEN, Syria means nothing. its 2 minro wars, theyc an keep both fronts open. You must be retarded....the US had been fghting in 10000 countries at the same time..why wouldn't russia be able to do the same? "In December 2015, Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin admitted that Russian military INTELLIGENT OFFICERS were operating in Ukraine"*" How's that relevant? he always lies..he is a politicians..are you retarded? "-how do you explain captured equipment, photos of Russian only equipment?" Im talkign about T80s, special T72 with 2000s kits, soldiers with camo and kits used only by the russians, weapons and systems from the 2000s that were NEVER SOLD TO ANYONE. "The separatist captures "trophies"" HOW ARE THEY RESUPPLYING THESE PHANTOMATIC THROPHIES??? This si nto fucking robin hood stealing from the sheriff and doing guerrilla warfare..thsi is a bloody mdoern army using TONS AND TONS of fuel, ammunition and supplies EVERY SINGLE DAY! Where are they GETTING IT? You didn't answer half of the questions..you shifted the goalpost many time.. You are desperately trying to avoid responding...
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  28. "ANSWER PLEASE: -how are russians oldiers getting COMBAT MEDALS -how are they able to post photos in Ukraine with their units and tanks -who is sending ammunitions and fuel to the rebels -who is coordinating them? (tanks+infantry+communications+intelligence? it all self created? Do you really think that a bunh of paesants built a perfectly functioning modern army ALONE? AHAHAH) -how are they getting the strenght, coordination etc to attack and CONQUER LAND against a national army in OPEN FIELDS? (this ain't vietnam and ain't afghanistan..) -how do you eplain the thousands of russian soldiers dead in these years? how did they die? -how do you explain captured equipmnet, photos of russian only equipment? -How do you explain the "little green men" in Crimea? -How do you explaint he russian journalisst pieces about the russian intervention? ANSWER ANSWER
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  29. "http://news.sky.com/story/sky-films-troops-in-russian-gear-in-ukraine-10390971" SO THESE are rebels for you? AHHAAHHAHAHA
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  30. Seriosuly this "the rebels captured those tanks" meme has to STOP! YOu don't capture tens of tanks like that, you can't capture ammunition for a 3 years long war, you can't get trainign for using them.....FFS kids you are drunk.
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  31. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32114522
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