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Comments by "WloCkuz" (@wlockuz4467) on "The Most Controversial Problem in Philosophy" video.
The segue into the multiverse theory is why I love this channel.
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@kirbwarriork3371 Yep it seems like a lot of information is left out just to create a clash between two different answers to two different questions.
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Exactly! They're fundamentally different because the latter ties the sleeping beauty being awake to the probability of the coin toss while the former doesn't. I am genuinely confused about what the point of this video is.
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"What is the probability that the coin toss was heads?" Answer: 1/2 "What is the probability that the coin toss that woke you up was a heads?" Answer: 1/3
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Yeah feels like a meaningless video, but I did like the segue into the multiverse theory.
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Finally someone I can relate to
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I don't understand why are we fighting over two different questions altogether.
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Really pointless video because it really depends on what question is asked, if subject is not given any information including the fact that their waking up depends on the results of coin toss then the logical answer is 1/2, if it does know that its related then the answer is 1/3
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@atharvbhandari994 Yes but the video is made in a way that makes it seem like 1/2 and 1/3 are both correct answers and its some kind of a paradox.
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They're actually likes and dislikes from the video updating automatically. 1/3 means like, 1/2 means dislike
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To answer "What is the probability that it came up heads?" The objective outcome of a fair coin toss will always be 1/2. She will always be woken up on a Monday regardless of the toss result, but she will be only woken up on 50% of Tuesdays. Thus 1/2. Now if you wake her up and ask "Given you're awake, what is the probability that the last toss result was a heads?" To this the answer is 1/3 assuming the sleeping beauty knows when she'll be woken up, but the video doesn't really mention anywhere if she knows on what conditions she will be woken up.
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This can be solved simply if the question is worded better? "What is the probability that the coin toss was heads?" Answer: 1/2 "What is the probability that the coin toss that woke you up was a heads?" Answer: 1/3 It really boils down to what context you ask and answer the question in.
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I just realised the title of the video changes based on the likes and dislikes!
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Bingo! The answer changes depending on how the question is worded.
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Exactly, I feel like he is intentionally trying to confuse the viewers when he himself said at the start that it depends on what questions you ask. If you ask her "what is probability that the result of the coin toss that woke you up was a heads" answer should be 1/3 If you ask her "what is the probability that the coin toss was a heads" answer should be 1/2 Her waking up more than once after the same toss result isn't tied to the probability of the toss.
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@shade0636 The first question puts the sleeping beauty in the context and assumes that she knows on what conditions she will be woken up but won't be given any other information, like what day is today. In that scenario its 3 possibilities, It was a Heads, and its a Monday It was a Tails, and its a Monday It was a Tails, and its a Tuesday Thus 1/3 chance of waking up after a heads The second question assumes she knows nothing, not even the conditions on how she will be woken up, so from her point of view a coin toss will always have a 1/2 chance of heads. I wish Derek made it more clear if she knows about the initial conditions because there is no mention of that in the video so we have to make some assumptions.
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Exactly! To word it better, "Given the reason you're awake, what is the probability that the coin toss was a heads?"
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Besides causing confusion, I don't think so.
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Exactly 😂
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Does the sleeping beauty know that her waking up depends on the coin toss?
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If you thumbs down it will actually show up in the title.
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@KX36 Because YouTube constantly filters likes and dislikes which it thinks came from bots.
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I think he intentionally mixed two questions to gain some engagement. There could be two questions and both have different answers. "What is the probability that the coin toss was heads?" Answer: 1/2 "What is the probability that the coin toss that woke you up was a heads?" Answer: 1/3 The second answer is assuming she knows she'll be woken up on a Tuesday if it was a tails but not given any information about it being a Tuesday.
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1:34 There you answered it yourself. Its not a controversial Math or Philosophy problem. Its just a Linguistics problem.
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That depends on what the question is "What is the probability that the coin toss was heads?" Answer: 1/2 "What is the probability that the coin toss that woke you up was a heads?" Answer: 1/3
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