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Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "Iran’s Birth Rate Decline" video.
I'd rather have more channels dedicated to Africa than Europe. Europe gets plenty of coverage already.
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Doesn't mesh with the fact that the highest birth rates happen among the poor, who can scarcely afford to buy homes. Or with the fact that the rich also don't have many kids, despite owning several homes. Or take the case of Japan, where birth rates are rock bottom despite houses LOSING value over there. You can even have a house for free there if you want, but still they have no kids. This has never been an affordability issue, that's just the story people tell everyone to moan more.
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@galzafar2943 The effect is women's empowerment, as it always is. Isr's birth rate is carried by its ultraconservative population having large families. This same effect can be seen in ultraconservative communities all over the world, no matter the faith. Cos one thing they have in common is lowered status of women. The same is true is poorer nations, whose birth rates also tend to be high, and go down as they develop and womens' status is raised. Even the baby boom in the us saw a lot of women who formerly worked in factories during the conflict leave the workforce and move back into housewife roles. Empowered women simply don't tend to have kids much, and if they do they have them much later too.
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@angeloluna529 Bruh billionaires almost never go bankrupt, even during economic downturns. Meanwhile they don't have more kids even during upturns. Meanwhile the poor have kids regardless. As do the ultra orthodox btw, regardless of wealth. Govt. incentives for children have also failed. This is just excuses for when things don't match your preferred self-serving narrative. It isn't about money.
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@Blah888 That's a whole lot of leading questions...
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@shubhamer2000 Maybe you should read how he came to power, or rather the countries who put him there.
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@belstar1128 Not all. Many islamic nations also have high fertility (for now at least), and some of those are rich due to fossil fuels. The fertility doesn't decline as much since they confine women to the home nevertheless (although it still does decline due to other factors that also affect it, most notably lower infant mortality).
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@haemse Tough times tend to see a lower status of women, which results in a higher birth rate.
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Iran has a YOUNG population, not old. It won't get old for decades yet.
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@shubhamer2000 'Good things' for who? For his foreign backers. Ofc you'd celebrate your man being in charge...
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@moloids Sure they make choices - that's my point! That women are choosing not to have kids, not denied by housing cost. You can see the opposite choice in orthodox communities btw - regardless of wealth they still choose to have kids Change the circumstance and people still choose not have to have kids. Incentivise having kids via policy, and women are still not having them. Have them be rich already and they still choose not to have them. To date there's only one circumstance that leads them to make the opposite choice, which I mentioned in the previous para. There are even literally surveys that show this, where they were asked how many kids they'd have if money was not an issue. The answers were almost all 0, 1 or 2. Replacement rate is 2.1. And if you're wondering why the poor and the orthodox both tend to have more kids, there's a certain trait both groups tend to have in common - and it isn't how affordable their life is.
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@ekesa07632 Most of their young population is still in Iran - the country is still quite young. Just cos you see an Iranian diaspora abroad doesn't mean all the young leave.
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@uumuu Maybe you should read how the shah came to power, or rather the countries who put him there.
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@dallysinghson5569 No. This holds even in cities as well as in places with state provided mandatory schooling. Neither is conducive to them being available for labor. Additionally the cost argument doesn't track with all the other points already mentioned above (govt. incentives not working, the rich having few kids too, the orthodox having many kids no matter their wealth, etc.).
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@Prockski Not just that. There's a reason they rail about imperialists so much ever since. He did all those things, but worse was that he did them with (and came to power thanks to) the backing of the nations they've railed against since.
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@moloids No the trend holds even in places wherein child labor isn't an option. Nor is it a problem for the rich, nor do govt. programs to alleviate it work. The cost argument doesn't work.
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@Ro-nu7vv Do you know what the fertility rate of Ukr is? Stop thinking of an issue that's half a century away as an issue now. They have plenty of young men, and plenty more to come for a long while yet.
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@Ro-nu7vv Typical that you'd use a game to hit back lol. Reveals your immaturity.
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@Ro-nu7vv Lol you don't even know how this started. You brought up fertility rates for war. I pointed out how Ukr fertility rate is far worse. Then you went on a tangent about them being a great power or something. And I never said Ira had a larger army than Ru lol.
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@Ro-nu7vv Bub they have a larger military than Ukr has ever had. And if you think they have no backing, feel free to go in there. Ru and Chi would absolutely love the chance.
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@Ro-nu7vv Ru also doesn't have 10x larger army than Ukr. You can't even get your facts right. Not to mention that in case of war, Isr will be the ones fighting in hostile territory, like Ru in Ukr. So rather than Iran, it'll be your side that gets shown up if things play out the way it did in Ukr lol.
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@AdityaRamachandranx Yeah except most of their young are still in the country. This isn't a significant factor in anything, apart from creating a diaspora that can feed into narratives that sell in the west.
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@Ro-nu7vv My point is that you know nothing about either demographics or war.
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@Ro-nu7vv Bub there's nothing to counter - you haven't established any claim to begin with. It's just all smug hubris and emojis.
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@Ro-nu7vv Sure bruh. Say nothing, expect the other party to disprove you, then call it a 'cope out' when they point out that you haven't said much.
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@moloids And if you're wondering why the poor and the orthodox both tend to have more kids, there's a certain trait both groups tend to have in common - and it isn't how affordable their life is.
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@Ro-nu7vv Bub there's nothing to counter - you haven't established anything anyway.
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