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Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "What is the WELFARE STATE like in the socialist CHINA of XI JINPING? - VisualPolitik EN" video.
@skrrskrr99 This is simply false. You can go work or study in China like in any other country. You can even apply for permanent residency, subject to certain criteria. The reason few from outside the region do it is cos it's hard to get by in China without knowing Chinese. Even though some of their universities even have English language degrees, you'll still realistically want to know Chinese to survive there. Incidentally, this is all true of Japan as well. And Korea. Language is a big deal.
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@Guildelin The US' biggest foreign aid recipients are its major allies lol. And hardly poor countries, unless you consider Israel poor. It's also not particularly generous relative to its gdp, just got more money to toss away - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/foreign-aid-these-countries-are-the-most-generous/
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@Guildelin As for how the west gives out loans, they've been doing it for decades. They're called Structural Adjustment Programs, and have been widely criticized. See, China gives out straightforward loans wherein you're only expected to pay it back. Meanwhile the west, via the IMF, literally dictates internal policy to countries in exchange for money (and you're still expected to pay it back) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_adjustment#Criticisms
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@skrrskrr99 Well I suppose if full citizenship is what you're after, then yes China isn't a great place to try for it. It isn't something only the Chinese do, for what it's worth (look up Liechtenstein's rules, for example), but yeah it isn't easy to get in.
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@Guildelin Here's an actual leader from one of those poor countries talking about those vaunted debt traps. And he's speaking in the US, far away from Chinese control - https://youtu.be/P5uzxV8ub9k Meanwhile, even if they were debt traps, that's far better than simply invading countries that don't play ball, as the US has repeatedly done all over the world.
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Err...did you both not notice that I said permanent residency, not citizenship? Their citizenship system is a different kettle of fish, generally quite nationalist. Though I'll note that the law does technically allow non-Chinese who've settled there to be eligible for citizenship (Article 7 states the requirements as 'close relatives who are Chinese nationals, they have settled in China, or if they have other legitimate reasons'), but in practice even I'll admit it's very much an uphill battle. You don't need citizenship to live and work there tho.
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It's funny how the west wrings its hands over Chinese sweatshops, while not lifting a finger about ones in places like, say, Bangladesh. Cos the former is yet another thing they can attack China for. However, since they have no issues with Bangladesh, their sweatshops are just a convenient way to get cheap products. Whatever works for you guys, right?...
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@cbingram112894 It's funny how partisans fall back on the old 'we can care about multiple things' defense, when they typically don't really care about anything other than their own cause at all. Sweatshops in other places have been known about for a long time, what have ya'll done about it? Don't try pretending like your position is that 'they're always wrong' when you only raise your voice when it aligns with your agenda. Btw, has China lied about its reasons for going to war recently? Oh right, China hasn't been to war in decades. That was the US.
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