Comments by "Persona" (@ArawnOfAnnwn) on "Move HONG KONG to the UK: A RESPONSE to CHINA? - VisualPolitik EN" video.

  1. Is it? Don't recall seeing any election in which the govt. of Taiwan had been elected by Chinese voters, so how do you know they support it? Hell, even the Taiwanese have elected a different party for themselves. The Taiwanese govt. being the rightful govt. of China has about as much legitimacy as the Oz govt. being the 'true China' does.
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  2.  @ricetea1  Ah yes, just what we need - the US (the only country to have ever used nukes on people, yet fashioning itself as the good guy) nuking even more people...
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  3.  @sunset-inn  If you want to use that logic, then I can just point to the fact the CCP currently has nearly 4 times the number of members (over 90 million) as Taiwan has people (under 24 million). So even if it was just the CCP membership that voted for it, against the entirety of Taiwan's people voting the other way, the CCP would still trounce Taiwan in an election. So much for that. This is a stupid argument of course, but then it's responding to a similarly stupid argument. The CCP does have the support of more Chinese people than Taiwan's govt. could possibly have. So, going back to my original point, there is no case for the claim that the govt. of Taiwan is the "true govt." (whatever the hell that means) of China, it's just the govt. the enemies of China happen to like. But govts. are responsible to their own people, not catering to the preferences of foreigners. You can dislike the CCP all you want, but don't try to pretend there's any current govt. that represents China better.
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  4. Btw, if there was a democratic election in China tomorrow, whatever govt. was formed would most likely continue a lot of China's policies that the West doesn't like. Because there's no reason to think the Chinese people wouldn't support those things - they advance not simply the CCP, but the interests of China itself after all. So claiming the South China Sea? Quite likely popular. Claiming Taiwan? Since there's currently no terrorist insurgency to sour the populace off that idea, they'd most likely support it (plenty of other democracies also have territorial claims that they haven't given up - for example, the very democratic UK went to war over a bunch of islands halfway across the world). Hell, even if there was an insurgency they'd likely support it - just look at the behaviour of democratic Israel, or India. Ditto with Hong Kong. And the further integration of Tibet. There's just no reason why the Chinese people would be opposed to these things - they anger the West, but the Chinese people would care about what helps China, not take their cues from foreign nations. About the only thing that might very well change is the Xinjiang internment camps, which the people may view as terrible. So yes, democracy in China may very well be a human rights triumph, but don't try to pretend it'll sort out all the tensions - you'll still be locked in conflict over the South China Sea, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Cos at the fundamental level these things are not about the CCP, but about the interests of China itself, as a country with its own aims and aspirations, versus those of the US trying to preserve its superpower privilege to shape the world how it likes.
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  5.  @charlesfavell3350  rolls eyes Dead meme. Thing about being part of the free world bruh - it encourages originality, something you clearly lack.
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