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No. Even before the kmt arrival. Majority of Taiwan's inhabitants were already Chinese settlers. They practiced Chinese culture and spoke Hokkien, which is a Chinese language. Why do you think Taiwanese celebrate traditional Chinese festivals? The actual indigenous people(not the Han Chinese) never did.
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@daryl_s 1) The Taiwanese identity that you speak of didn't really exist until the 1900's after Japan's occupation. The earliest Chinese immigrants were Ming dynasty loyalists and soldiers, not fisherman. Also, if you really want to talk about identity, various nationwide polls show that the vast majority of Taiwanese (70-90% if I recall) do indeed identify as "ethnic Chinese." The identities of "Taiwanese" and "Chinese" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive terms. I am Taiwanese myself, at the same time I also identify as being of Chinese ancestry and ethnicity. 2) What you described rarely happened. While some intermarriage with indigenous did occur during the early periods of Chinese immigration, most Han settlers didn't "adapt minority dialects." Actually, it was the other way around. The Han Chinese population quickly outnumbered the indigenous Austronesians, and some Indigenous Formosans were actually assimilated into the Han population. This is evidenced by the fact that before the island was ceded to Japan, majority of Taiwanese were speaking "Taiwanese" aka Minnan/Hokkien which is a Chinese language, NOT indigenous to Taiwan, and distinctly different from the Austronesian languages that Indigenous speak. 3) You mentioned that Mandarin isn't a naturally occurring phenomenon. Sure, but the same could be said for the so called "native" languages Taiwanese and Hakka. Early Han immigrants literally colonized Taiwan and performed cultural genocide on Taiwan's original inhabitants whose culture, language and homelands were basically destroyed. Would you claim that's an "organic" progression of Taiwanese society?
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Lol the "native" Taiwanese themselves were mainly Chinese settlers from earlier periods. They themselves colonized the actual indigenous people of Taiwan since the 16th century. Nice revisionist history.
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Lol today i learned 95% of people on Taiwan aren't true Taiwanese!
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@886-USSEA Really? Clearly you're not American then. Americans refer to themselves as Italian-American, Mexican-American, Irish-American, Chinese-American ALL the time.
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@886-USSEA maybe don't use that flag then. I'm also Taiwanese, but I also identify as Chinese so speak for yourself. Nation wide polls also show that majority of Taiwanese do identify as ethnically Chinese btw.
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No. They are mainly Han Chinese. A trace amount of the population is mixed.
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@Tinatina-m7h lol ok. Show me some evidence then. There's been lots of genetic studies done on Taiwanese. Results always show majority are Han Chinese. Even the Taiwanese governement states 95% population is Han Chinese 😂
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@Tinatina-m7h heres a link if you don't believe me. https://www.taiwan.gov.tw/content_2.php 95% Han Chinese🤭
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@Tinatina-m7h There's no such thing as a "pure race." Every ethnic group on the planet is a mix of various combinations of ancient people, not sure what your point is. The ethnicity Han Chinese absolutely exists on the basis of culture, language, ancestry etc. The true facts are that 95% of Taiwanese are completely indistinguishable from other southern Han Chinese genetically. There has never been any credible genetic study that shows Taiwanese Han have a high degree of indigenous ancestry. Lol that professor you mentioned is politically motivated. She never even published her findings in actual scientific peer reviewed journals. She's a joke in the actual scientific community.
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@Tinatina-m7h if you don't believe me go google the following genetic studies then we can have a discussion. In the meantime please stop misleading people for your political agenda 🥰 Detecting Genetic Ancestry and Adaptation in the Taiwanese Han People Genetic profiles of 103,106 individuals in the Taiwan Biobank provide insights into the health and history of Han Chinese Population structure of Han Chinese in the modern Taiwanese population based on 10,000 participants in the Taiwan Biobank project
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@Tinatina-m7h Read some scientific studies first then you can talk. Google these papers since YouTube doesn't let me post links. In the meantime please stop misleading others for your political agenda. Population structure of Han Chinese in the modern Taiwanese population based on 10,000 participants in the Taiwan Biobank project Detecting Genetic Ancestry and Adaptation in the Taiwanese Han People
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@Tinatina-m7h lol ok whatever helps you sleep. You claim there's no such thing as Han Chinese. Well I guess others can claim there's also no such thing as Taiwanese then. By the way, there was a recent nation wide poll in Taiwan. Majority of Taiwanese identify as ethnic Chinese still 🤭
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@Tinatina-m7h haha half Taiwanese. And I'm full Taiwanese, what's your point. Also I never said anything about Taiwan being part of China. Good try though 👍. Sorry I made you upset with actual scientific articles and facts. You can still call yourself whatever you want. I respect you 🥰
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Lol majority of Taiwanese aren't"native" to Taiwan. Before Kmt arrival Chinese immigrants already 90+% of the population and already colonized Taiwan from the actual indigenous formosans.
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Except 95% of the island was Chinese to begin with.
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