Comments by "Vierotchka" (@Vierotchka) on "Spanish rescuers find body of toddler trapped in borehole" video.

Oh please... the parents didn't know about that hole, the place seemed safe to let a toddler run around. Did you keep your children on a leash or chained?
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@mandarinka.27 It is not a well, it is a borehole, a deep, narrow hole made in the ground, especially to locate but not to extract water or oil. Wells never have a diameter of 25 centimeters (10 inches).
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@mandarinka.27 No, but to ask such a question is making a veiled statement.
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@spaceghost5997 That does not mean that the parents were unfamiliar with that private estate. Since there are "lots of blanks in this story", people jump to conclusions without knowing the ins and outs of the situation. As I have read many articles about this tragic accident in five different languages, there are far fewere "blanks in this story" for me than for the other commenters here.
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@zingerman11259 When walking in town, absolutely, but out in a field, in an apparently safe environment, that would be bad parenting. Toddlers need to run around, develop their running and walking skills, and have some freedom. Over-coddling and over-protecting toddlers in the manner you suggest is extremely bad parenting.
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@ers555666 It is not a well, it is a borehole, a deep, narrow hole made in the ground, especially to locate but not to extract water or oil. Wells never have a diameter of 25 centimeters (10 inches).
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@angelicalee6 It is not at all suspicious. There are no red flags. You've got a twisted mind. I did work for years for the justice system as a legal translator and lawyer's assistant, and I contributed to exonerating innocent people.
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@zingerman11259 If they most likely didn't see the hole, possibly hidden by grass, even if they watched their toddler, this accident would have happened anyway. Do you keep your toddlers on a tight leash or chained?
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@zingerman11259 They need to do that outside, not just in one's own home which also is fraught with dangers - the overwhelming majority of serious accidents that happen to toddlers and small children happen in the home. As I said, it is not a well, it is a borehole. How do you know these parents had never been there before? The borehole was new. Holding one's toddler's hand in unfamiliar territory usually is over-protective, unless one is blind. How many children have you raised? I have worked with many small children and toddlers as well as having raised mine. You don't seem to have a grasp on what child-rearing really is, on what it entails. You dwell in a place of fear.
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@zingerman11259 I am in no manner at all defending bad parenting. I know exactly what a toddler is, due to many decades of experience as a parent, a grandparent, an aunt, a great-aunt and working in various capacities with toddlers and small children. The territory where that tragic accident happened was not unfamiliar to the territory where their poor little boy died. Accidents happen. You express yourself from a place of ignorance, inexperience, fear and restriction. I pity any children you might have had or will have. You are in no position whatsoever to lecture me about good parenting.
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@angelicalee6 The borehole into which Julen fell on January 13 lacked the proper permits from the regional and municipal authorities. The accident happened when the family was on the rural property of a relative in Totalán, where they were going to cook a paella. Their first child, Oliver, then three, died when his heart gave out to a congenital defect, so neither death is suspicious at all.
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@angelicalee6 From what I have been able to gather on many different websites, in five languages, they didn't know that there was a borehole there. You are seeing evil where there is none. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, ugliness and evil are in the soul of the beholder.
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@zingerman11259 Not necessarily at all. Toddlers are masters at wriggling out of a hand hold and running off. You obviously have zero experience.
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@zingerman11259 Tried implies failed. If he ran off, it is absolutely not a given that one could have stopped him before he fell in the borehole, depending on how close the borehole was at that moment. It is not all that easy, and I know exactly and perfectly well what I am talking about, based on decades of experience.
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Edward Gross Why should the borehole have been covered with warning signs? It normally should have had a lid placed over it, something the owner didn't do. With a diameter of 25 centimeters, it posed no danger to most people. It is indeed a tragic accident.
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@zingerman11259 What you fail to understand is that if ou were either holding the toddler's hand and the toddler escaped you running, or if the toddler was walking one to three feet in front of you, if the toddler ran off it would not be your first reflex to catch the toddler, unless this happened on a sidewalk in a city or by the side of a road. In an open space, you'd let the toddler run as it is so important for the toddler to develop its running skills. As I said before, you come from a dark place of fear and ignorance with regard to child raising and toddlers. It is you who obstinately refuses to see common sense. My advantage over you is a great deal of knowledge and decades of experience, as well as a healthy dose of common sense.
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Edward Gross If there is a lid, if it is sealed, there is no danger whatsoever, and therefore there is no necessity at all to place any sign there. Boreholes are so small in diameter that they do not pose a particular danger to people in general, save perhaps for breaking a leg. The owner of that private property had not sealed it and had not placed a lid over it.
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@angelicalee6 The investigation is solely centered on why the borehole was not covered up. I am neither naive nor biased - on the other hand, you certainly are biased, in a most negative way.
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