Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "Former Tory minister: customs union or no Brexit" video.

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  12.  @undogmatisch5873  I cannot deal with all of that on here. The first point is easy as the then prime minister confirmed that, voting leave would mean voting to leave the single market and customs union. The second point is more complex, but easy when understood. The message contained a statement of fact: "We send the EU 350 million per week" and a suggestion: "let's fund the NHS instead". The statement of fact appears to be accurate, as the UK does send this amount to the EU (confirmed by the UK Statistics Authority). Whilst, it is true that, the EU returns and uses some of this money for projects in the UK, this fact does not alter the validity of the original fact and this is particularly so, given the context of the 'Brexit' referendum. This first part of the bus message is therefore, not a lie. Now the 'suggestion'. A 'suggestion' or ‘proposal’ cannot be a statement of 'fact' under any circumstances, so this part of the bus message cannot be adjudged to be 'false'. Also a 'suggestion' cannot be a 'promise' so there can be no expectation that the terms of a suggestion should be carried out by the person that made the suggestion or by a person that, concurred with the suggestion. So this part of the bus message is not a lie. In pure fiscal terms, the bus message was entirely accurate, as the saving would be always used to 'fund the NHS' for as long as NHS was state funded and expenditure exceeded 350 million per week. This is because all government spending comes from the same coffer; moreover, the government currently borrows more than this amount to meet its spending commitments. The referendum was not a general election, the Leave supporting MPs were not going to form a government and the public fully understood this. Indeed, the only people complaining the NHS has not received this money are people that, voted to keep sending it to the EU. An example of a message that is an actual lie, is the claim made repeatedly by the Remain supporting media and Remain activists that, 'the EU funds the UK' in various ways. Of course, this is fiscally impossible, as the facts easily prove the UK has always funded the EU. The Remainers, 'news' media and the letter from the UK Statistics Authority have used the word "extra"in order to challenge the bus message. This is deliberately misleading, as the bus message did not say 'extra' it actually said "instead" which is materially different in meaning to "extra". So the bus message was really saying: 'If we don't give our money to the EU we will have this extra money to fund our NHS'. This is not the same as saying: 'We will give the NHS extra money' it is clearly saying: 'We will have extra money to fund the NHS'. As I stated earlier the UK currently borrows more than £350m per week, so this extra money will be very useful in ensuring adequate funding of the NHS is sustainable. I have explained this in as simple a way possible. Of course, it is not helpful when the Remain side have lied so much.
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