Comments by "Iazzaboyce" (@Iazzaboyce) on "The Big Brexit Debate: What does the UK really think?" video.

@YorickReturns Mummy I didn't win WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
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@Gordon BoabingA This is what Lord Paddy Ashdown said on a second referendum whilst the 2016 referendum votes were being counted: “Here’s the single point: Those that asked for this and I was the first leader ever to ask for a referendum way back in 89/90, have said so because they believe it to be an act of democracy. I will forgive no one who does not accept the sovereign voice of the British people once it has spoken. Whether it’s by 1% or 20%, once they’ve taken it, it is our duty, as those who serve the public to make the best use and to make sure that our country does the best it can with the decision the people have given us. I’ve heard Mr Farage say tonight: ‘We’re coming back even if we lose’. Excuse me! He’s the person that complained about lack of democracy in Europe! If he will not accept the sovereign voice of the British people, whatever they say, then I think he does not have the national interest at heart.” (Lord Paddy Ashdown 24 June 2016)
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A second in/out referendum: There could be no £9 million government leaflet supporting Remain 2016 ‘project fear’ will be exposed as propaganda ‘Project fear part two’ will be ridiculed The 2016 racist slurs against Leave voters would not be effective A second referendum would be seen as being anti democratic, a waste of time and money In 2016 there was huge ‘status quo’ advantage for Remain - this no longer exists Since 2016, EU leaders have made disparaging remarks towards UK Leave would argue the UK’s relationship with EU is irrevocably damaged In 2016 the perception was Remain would win - some people just like to win In 2016 Remain seemed the safer option - those in ‘two minds’ more likely to have voted Remain In 2016 Leave bus said ‘£350 million’ a second referendum Leave bus would say ‘£39 billion’ Leave would argue the UK crawling back to the EU would be national humiliation Leave would argue the UK could never be serious in negotiations with EU again UK ‘opt outs’ would be seen as worthless In a second referendum Remain would not be able to exploit the murder of female Remain MP Most under 35s would support Remain without having to go to a polling station Deceased over 55s would be replaced by new living over 55s Recently bereaved non voters would use their vote to proxy deceased Leavers Remain would have no popular leading figures... Vince Cable? Politicians on all sides would be wary of nailing themselves to the mast of a sinking Remain cause Leave leaders would look like winners deprived of rightful opportunity Leave campaigners would deride Remain as anti democratic, anti British Remain would look like bad losers and the pendulum would swing Bring it on
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Basically, the whole establishment (which includes the 'news' media) is against Brexit and have been subjecting the British people to more than two years of a propaganda campaign designed to scare and bully them into changing their minds... It hasn't worked and they will soon realise it's futile and give up. Then we will have some semblance of normality with even a positive outlook.
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@trevordaviesable What lies did Leave tell?
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@pudpullertm Is it up to the customer how much the TV or sofa costs? I don't think so! It's up to DFS whether they want to allow the customer discount and up to the customer whether to buy the sofa. The UK has now decided it doesn't need a sofa or a TV as the UK is not a couch potato. The £350m figure was correct in the context of a referendum about UK independence from the EU. This is because the UK would be using this money to fund the NHS 'instead' of handing it to the EU. This has to be the case as long as NHS funding exceeds £350m per week. If you get a pay rise or stop paying a gym membership, are you or are you not using the extra in your account to pay for your groceries? https://www.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Letter-from-Sir-David-Norgrove-to-Foreign-Secretary.pdf
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One of my main reasons for voting out was to put an end to a minority of political class dividing our nation. If you go to most countries you find peoples with one object; to make their countries better places. We need to come together around our Union Flag and show the world how to live.
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The referendum was grossly unfair. MPs handed the decision as to whether the UK should remain or leave the EU to the UK electorate. Having done so MPs/MEPs/etc. should not have been allowed to campaign with undue party political influence. The very reason MPs handed this matter to the electorate was that since the main UK parties were pro-EU, the electorate had not had reasonable opportunity to vote on the single issue of increasing political union with Europe. Therefore, each of the main parties of government should have selected a set number of representatives to campaign for each side and those not selected should have been prevented from actively campaigning. The fact that a majority of UK politicians representing the Conservative Party, Labour Party, Scottish National Party, Liberal Democratic Party, Plaid Cymru, Green Party, Sinn Fein could not achieve a +50% majority on a matter of fundamental national importance is democratically perverse.
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@leapsplashafrog Yes, but democracy is supposed to be fair - read my comment again.
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Since 2016 the people of the UK have been subjected to a non-stop negative establishment propaganda campaign designed to install fear over leaving the EU. Even if this poll is accurate (with a 2% margin for error), they will understand they have completely failed. There is now no credible argument for a second referendum.
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@peterstill3760 Maybe it's time to put the lid on the bottle and get some rest Peter - good night.
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@mirola73 Yes, that's right, Brexit has not happened yet so no one has experienced it. You should go on Mastermind - your specialist subject could be the 'bleedin' obvious' ;o)
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This is what Lord Paddy Ashdown said on a second referendum whilst the votes were being counted: “Here’s the single point: Those that asked for this and I was the first leader ever to ask for a referendum way back in 89/90, have said so because they believe it to be an act of democracy. I will forgive no one who does not accept the sovereign voice of the British people once it has spoken. Whether it’s by 1% or 20%, once they’ve taken it, it is our duty, as those who serve the public to make the best use and to make sure that our country does the best it can with the decision the people have given us. I’ve heard Mr Farage say tonight: ‘We’re coming back even if we lose’. Excuse me! He’s the person that complained about lack of democracy in Europe! If he will not accept the sovereign voice of the British people, whatever they say, then I think he does not have the national interest at heart.” (Lord Paddy Ashdown 24 June 2016)
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@Wichnam The people of Gibraltar and Ireland want to be British. What do you suggest?
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@Wichnam Your suggestions do not allow for the fact the peoples of Gibraltar and Northern Ireland want to be British. I'm sure those that want Northern Ireland to unite with Southern Ireland will be watching opinion in Northern Ireland closely. In the meantime, the border between Northern and Southern Ireland could be operated in a way that does not compromise the GFA, despite political based assertions to the contrary.
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This is the Government's response to petition regarding second referendum 6 Nov 2018: The Government is clear that we will respect the result of the 2016 referendum, and that we will not hold a second referendum. A clear majority of the electorate voted to leave the European Union in the 2016 referendum. Almost three quarters of the electorate took part in the referendum, resulting in 17.4 million votes to leave the European Union. This is the highest number of votes cast for anything in UK electoral history. This was the biggest democratic mandate for a course of action ever directed at any UK Government. Parliament then overwhelmingly confirmed the result of the referendum by voting with clear and convincing majorities in both of its Houses for the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill. In last year’s General Election, over 80% of people then also voted for parties committing to respect the result of the referendum - it was the stated policy of both major parties that the decision of the people would be respected. The Government is clear that it is now its duty to implement the will expressed by the electorate in the referendum - respecting both the will of the British people, and the democratic process which delivered the referendum result. The British people must be able to trust in its Government both to effect their will, and to deliver the best outcome for them. As the Prime Minister has said: “This is about more than the decision to leave the EU; it is about whether the public can trust their politicians to put in place the decision they took.” In upholding that directive to withdraw from the European Union, the Government is delivering on that promise. We recognise that to do otherwise would be to undermine the decision of the British people, and to disrespect the powerful democratic values of this country and this government. The Government therefore continues to be committed to delivering on the instruction given to us by the British people: working to overcome the challenges and seize the opportunities this brings to deliver an outcome which betters the lives of British people - whether they voted to Leave or to Remain. The people of the United Kingdom gave a clear instruction and the Government is committed to seeing that through. We will leave the European Union on 29 March 2019. Department for Exiting the European Union
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@pudpullertm All of those things you mention are valid reasons to vote to leave the EU. I cannot deal with each here, however, I will explain why your first assertion (that the message on the Leave bus was a lie) is not true. The message contained a statement of fact: "We send the EU 350 million per week" and a suggestion: "let's fund the NHS instead". The statement of fact appears to be accurate, as the UK does send this amount to the EU (confirmed by the UK Statistics Authority). Whilst, it is true that, the EU returns and uses some of this money for projects in the UK, this fact does not alter the validity of the original fact and this is particularly so, given the context of the 'Brexit' referendum. This first part of the bus message is therefore, not a lie. Now the 'suggestion'. A 'suggestion' or ‘proposal’ cannot be a statement of 'fact' under any circumstances, so this part of the bus message cannot be adjudged to be 'false'. Also a 'suggestion' cannot be a 'promise' so there can be no expectation that the terms of a suggestion should be carried out by the person that made the suggestion or by a person that, concurred with the suggestion. So this part of the bus message is not a lie. In pure fiscal terms, the bus message was entirely accurate, as the saving would be always used to 'fund the NHS' for as long as NHS was state funded and expenditure exceeded 350 million per week. This is because all government spending comes from the same coffer; moreover, the government currently borrows more than this amount to meet its spending commitments. The referendum was not a general election, the Leave supporting MPs were not going to form a government and the public fully understood this. Indeed, the only people complaining the NHS has not received this money are people that, voted to keep sending it to the EU. An example of a message that is an actual lie, is the claim made repeatedly by the Remain supporting media and Remain activists that, 'the EU funds the UK' in various ways. Of course, this is fiscally impossible, as the facts prove the UK has always funded the EU.
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@pudpullertm The UK has negotiated a rebate because the UK was paying an unfair amount, however, those pro-EU forces in the UK would rather the UK did not have any rebate. The UK still owes and pays the amount before rebate... As you have said the actual price of the TV is £1000. Thank you for making my point.
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@pudpullertm It was in the government leaflet sent to every house in the UK that, voting leave would mean losing access to the single market.
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@pudpullertm I provided you the evidence from the UK Statistics Authority (that was attempting to criticise the bus message). The letter did not contest the figure, so the figure is obviously correct. The letter uses the word "extra" in order to challenge the bus message. This is deliberately misleading, as the bus message did not say 'extra' it said "instead" which is different in meaning to "extra". So the bus message really said: 'If we don't give the EU £350m each week, we will have this extra money to fund the NHS 'instead' of giving it to the EU. This is not the same as saying: 'We will give the NHS extra money' it is clearly saying: 'We will have extra money to fund the NHS'. As I stated earlier the UK currently borrows more than £350m per week, so this extra money will be very useful in ensuring adequate funding the NHS is sustainable. I have explained this in as simple a way possible, but I can see it's hard for some people to understand. Of course, it is not helpful when the Remain side have lied so much.
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@sufirodger Not only is it a small sample, there are far more unknowns in attempting to predict a national referendum, than a general election. The questions are carefully constructed to get the results the survey funder wants (recently a remain millionaire donated one million pounds to peoples vote to be 'used for opinion polls') and the question: 'how would you vote tomorrow?' omits the relevance of an election campaign that would be hugely influential on voter intentions. In short, this survey is complete nonsense intended only to be used as sensational propaganda.
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@pudpullertm You have further revealed your ignorance. The 'gross figure' is the total amount we pay to the EU. The 'net figure' is the part of the gross figure that is not returned to the UK. I think you have demonstrated that this is beyond the scope of your understanding. Obviously, this is how remain propagandists are able to fool people like yourself. An independent UK would retain the gross figure and this money would be available to the UK to 'fund the NHS' 'instead of sending it to the EU'... Just like if you cancelled a gym membership you would have the money you used to spend on the membership fee, to spend on your groceries instead. It's basic accounting.
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@pudpullertm You do know your 'independent' information source is funded by George Soros?
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@pudpullertm What has this to do with the 'Tories'? Perhaps you're the only one that cannot see the pro remain media is tactically making Brexit look right wing hoping twits like you will oppose Brexit (just because they don't like Boris and IDS). The two great political intellects of my lifetime were Enoch Powell and Tony Benn. They were both considered extremists at opposite ends of the political spectrum. They both believed that, UK sovereignty belonged to the people of the UK and could/should not be given away to foreigners by politicians... You may not vote for people like Boris and IDS, but the people of other EU countries might vote in governments that are even further to the right.
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@pudpullertm Did you know the 1983 Labour Party manifesto promised to Brexit? I thought not... Oh dear!
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@pudpullertm Oh dear, I don't think you know enough to discuss politics... Why don't you try a teletubbies video and see if you can keep up with the comments there?
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@pudpullertm You should know as you've just Googled it. Oh, and it's spelled 'thicko' not 'thico' - you thicko! ;o)
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@pudpullertm That should be 'you're' not your - I must be such a 'thico' [sic].
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@pudpullertm You say I am "so empire" but what did I say to make you think this? No Leave voter believes the British Empire will be reinstated. The EU is the only 'empire' relevant to this debate and you are the one that wants to be part of it. I am pleased you are able to laugh so much, as you must be getting over your Brexit depression. I didn't know you worked in politics and I have to say I'm surprised because you don't seem to know anything about politics.
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@Daniel Abrahams Which is clearly what the people voted for. But, it would all depend on what question (or questions) was on the ballot paper.
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@pudpullertm You must be overdue your medication.
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