Comments by "Deborah Freedman" (@deborahfreedman333) on "Florida releases 4 examples from math textbooks it rejected" video.

@xuimod I came from a crap rural school, and the highest math we had was trig. I had to teach myself calculus, so I could survive at a top university. And later, taught myself math theory, to deal with grad school. My school had decided, that since most kids couldn't understand calculus, they wouldn't teach it, which put me at a disadvantage when competing with kids from large cities. All high schools should be required to teach calculus, but pure calculus, not muddied up with BS sociology.
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@Trogdor1365 No, it isn't really teaching about data, as it starts with unprovable assumptions. They'd be better off taking example from real science, not biased fuzzy studies.
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@Sundae_Times There are much better choices, which could be made, if you wanted to include cross-curricula information, like comparing statistics about vaccination and lack of it, or interplanetary distances. If they want to include other disciplines in math, they should pick from the hard sciences, where math is important, not sociology, where math is tortured.
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@drkmwinters Not really. Sociology has far too many variables, and makes too many bogus assumptions, to really apply math to accurately.
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I'm disgusted. Not so much by rejection of the text books, because the examples shown are egregious, but because of the math problem about finding 9+5, by first finding 9+1, and asking them to write out their reasoning. Math should not need to be explained, math is it's own language. You should be able to teach math without language at all. That is why so many immigrant children do so well in math, language should not affect it. Making children write out why they came to a solution is just obscene. Teach math, not writing, in math class. No wonder our children score so poorly on math comprehension and ability. #NoMoreWords
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But, using a flawed bar graph, based on unknown polling questions, is not teaching history. And it most certainly does not belong in a math class. There is plenty of real world data, not based upon bias and assumption, but real scientific experiment, which could have been used.
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Sociological polls are not real world, they are biased and unscientific.
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@TfearWasHere No kidding. I remember looking at the 'math' problems my daughters had to do, and understood why they hated math. They had to explain every step, in English. The problem is, most teachers are too stupid to understand math, so they try to turn a proof into an essay. I do remember becoming so exasperated I said "If she always gets the right answer, she clearly understands it. Math is a language, you shouldn't need to explain it in English."
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Whether or not CRT is a valid idea, it does not belong in a math class.
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@kevin Ironside If they want real statistics, they should analyze scientific data, not the mumble-jumble sociology produces.
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@MyName-pl7zn I'm also a liberal and registered Democrat. And I too, think this is completely inappropriate because sociological data is too prone to manipulation to be used in valid statistical analysis. If textbook manufacturers wish to include real world data, they should look at more concrete data, like what percentage of those hospitalized with Covid-19 are unvaccinated, or how many plaque forming units are produced by unvaccinated vs. vaccinated across all age groups. That would upset DeSantis as much as highly biased, and unprovable, racial statistics, but be true data, not fabricated BS.
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Back in the 1970s, some California parents sued their school district, because their son wasn't in the fast track math class. The result: California schools stopped dividing kids up according to math ability. All the smart kids were held back by the idiots.
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@clintonkildepsteen3982 A woman is an adult female. A female human is one with XX chromosomes, which can be determined by looking for Barr bodies in the cells. Any other definition is not scientific, and therefore meaningless.
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@GabrielWJensen Some children love math, until idiot teachers try "to make math fun".
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But, it wasn't facts. It was all conjecture from a poll, the students don't get to see, to discover how deceptive it is. Sociology doesn't deal with facts, science is factual.
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@kandicebrown4436 That's a good point. A lot of parents never knew what garbage their children were being subjected to, until they had to assist them in learning. It was a Zoom lesson, that let parents in my city know, teachers were dividing children into groups, based upon physical characteristics, then having one group 'oppress' the other.
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Pick a more valid curricula than error prone sociology. Use real data from scientific experiments. You can massage sociology data to prove whatever you want, because it is not a valid science.
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@nocause5395 Math actually involves focusing, and concentrating on the provable. Math is an elegant language, that can manipulate ideas words cannot. One of the reasons American children do so badly at math, is they are taught by idiots who don't understand it, and try to explain it with words. Math builds on itself. You can prove things, by first building and proving lemmas, then using those lemmas in a proof. Math is a tool to understand real scientific data. But when you throw sociological garbage in, math chokes. Sociology makes too many false assumptions to be a useful tool in exploring statistical modeling.
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Demographics would be something more verifiable, like people of certain educational levels make certain amounts of money. They used data derived from a poll, without including the poll questions used to make conclusions. We have no idea how they determined levels of racism, which is a very subjective conclusion. Since the data cannot be proved, it is invalid. It was obviously there for indoctrination purposes. Let them use real data, not biased conclusions, for teaching statistical analysis.
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Who cares. Sociology is fuzzy studies. If they want to include real world examples, they should use real scientific data, from real science, like physics, chemistry or microbiology.
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If they want to use real examples, they should use real data, like what comes from a scientific experiment. Sociology is pure BS, that cannot account for variables, and is not provable.
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@chancock4222 No, if they used verifiable scientific data, not biased unverifiable polls, it would be teaching statistics.
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Posting the same inane comment, multiple times, doesn't make it any less stupid. If they want to throw in other curricula, they should use valid ones, like science or engineering, not sociology BS.
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What is "Heath Care", managing a bog?
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