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@canihazburgers @ Compare to US ships , UK are relatively weak. For starters, the US takes carrier defense very seriously. US CVN and LHD/A are layered with RIM-7s, RIM-116s , RIM-162 and CIWS. The UK carriers only have CIWS and thats it. They are completely reliant on the type 45 for protection. The benefit of CATOBAR is that CVNs can launch heavier planes. This allows CVNS to operate planes like the E-2 for AWACS whereas the UK uses the Merlin crownest. The E-2 large size allows it to pack a far more advanced sensor suite than the Merlin. Now the F-35B has huge advances on CATOBAR but in the end still lags behind in payload. The Type-45 destroyers are advanced floating sam sites. The claim was made that Sea viper is more advanced than US AEGIS. The problem is that they are apples and oranges. The US aegis is designed for full spectrum combat, air,land, sea, underwater and space whereas Sea Viper is strictly anti air. The Aegis can engage targets on land with TLAM, subs with ASROC, aircraft with SM2/3 ,pace targets with SM-3s and ships with Harpoons. The newly minted Cooperative Engagement Capability allows both ship and planes to act as spotter and shooter. The Type 45 use the Aster missile which tops at 120km. The US SM-6 is rated excess of 240km. side note , the SM-6 is anti air, ship, land and ballistic all rolled into one missile.
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@yellowtunes2756
Again wrong
When you have true air superiority , you have complete control of the battlespace. In essence, the enemy is unable to act freely
That Gulf War is example of true superiority as west had complete control of the battlespace
Vietnam again is irrelevant to modern warfare. Secondly wars are not fought with similar levels of equipment as Ukraine has shown. War are fought with advantages
The Pzh-2000 were out of action due the high-intensity of Ukraine firing. That problem is simply due to low number of Pzh-2000. Ukraine doesn't have enough western SPA yet
Russia's lack of camera's also makes no sense. The US has high resolution optics on everything so commanders can view situations as well confirm target movement and destruction.
Incorrect
The M777 needs 20 min per mission and range is just 25 miles. It has to set up, communicate/fire ,then break down and leave which normally takes 20 miles
The Pzh-2000 needs 6s min per mission. Set up, communicate/fire and displace ,its range 40 miles
The HIMARS only needs 3 mins and its range 50 miles. The missile are preloaded while its on the move so all it has to do set up, fire and displace
A KA-52 can cover 25 miles in 9 minutes which means it can easily engage M777s
Even at max speed, the KA-52 covers 40 miles in 12 minutes , 15 mins for 50 miles
By the time a KA-52 gets over head, Pzh-2000 and HIMARS are over 4 miles away. HIMARS as much as 10 miles away
This goes back to Russia's lack of air superiority
The US maintains air superiority by having aircraft 24/7 patrolling kill boxes
The principle benefit is that aircraft can react within minutes. a supersonic Su-35 or MiG-35 can cover 50 miles under 3 minutes but more importantly
if they had advanced western targeting pods and Brimstone missiles, they could precisely target and fire while en route without having to get overhead
yet factor why Russias's air superiority is farce
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@lidlb1tch282
You would be wrong
What you are describing as well what 90 percent people get wrong is called modes of engagement
When you are behind the missile, thats called tail chase engagement. In that type of engagement, yes you are "chasing after the missile and the missile you launch has to enough speed to overtake the target
that is where people confused, not every engagement is tail chase
When I am the target and you are shooting at me, that called head engagement
The missile is coming at me ,so speed is irrelevant. What I have to do is calculate a point at the incoming missile path to intercept it
so if I know in 30 seconds, the incoming missile reach point x, then I will time my interceptor launch so it simultaneously arrives at X
Now maneuvering missile claim to be able to avoid interceptors ,however that's why larger warheads with enhanced fragmentation and proximity fuzes are making a come back They don't need to be hit-to-kill, they just detonate close enough so fragmentation shreds the missile or causes enough damage
Now if the missile in front and I am shooting at it from the side, same principle applies, I am shooting ahead of the missile not at the missile
Speed is needed here but not as important
Now the reason why interceptors have higher speeds and range is so they can get off more shoots at longer ranges
At close range, you may only a get 1 or 2 shoots at most but at longer range, you get in more shots
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The J-20 has literally become useless over night
As far countering tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft goes, the J-20 is pretty much becoming useless in that regard
One of the unique features of the IRIS-T is that seeker is sensitive enough to allow it to be targeted against both air to air and surface to air missiles
The Russian R-77 also claims the same performance ,able to down both air to air and surface to air missiles as well precision-guided munitions
The AIM-120D FR3 currently adds that ability to target both air to air and surface to air missiles as does the AIM-260 JATM
The F-15EX with AMBER can carry up 22 AIM-120s vs the J-20 load of just 4 BVR missiles ,even without AMBER, the F-15EX still carries 8 AIM-120
The J-20's ability to target tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR relies them attacking from outside defending fighters range,however its moot if the defenders can shoot down the missiles
In order to protect the missiles, they will need J-16 EW to jam radar, without , those missiles won't get near tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR and they can't risk getting up close
The J-16 problem is that the E-3 , E-2D and the E-7 would not have any issues with its jamming. Unlike the Russia, the US heavily invested in aerial jamming with the EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B, AWACS. Training with these assets makes it easier for them to deal with the J-16s jamming as well EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B counter jamming
The J-16 last and by far biggest problem is the RC-135 Rivet Joint and Combat Sent which can read the J-16s jamming
So J-20's role has been drastically reduce and only getting worst
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@danielk1152
How about no
Ukraine borders Russia , Russia didnt have to travel thousands of miles like the US . Go through diplomatic channels to stage their forces
Ukraine is literally right next down and Russia cant do anything
The list of Russia's tactical blunders in Ukraine is miles long but lets go with the simplest
As you stated, Ukraine has been getting a lot western equipment yet Russia has done nothing to stop it
What a superpower would have done is land its forces in Western Ukraine and established bases to cut Ukraine off from Poland, Slovakia Romania and Moldova
With Ukraine cut off, there would be Abrams,. Bradleys, HIMARS, ATACMS. Storm Shadow F-16s , Advanced air defensed or even artillery , The whole list of weapons giving Russian forces nightmares wouldnt exist
Now the US has cleared JSOWs for Ukraine which like ATACMS has single warhead and submunitions payloads
and worst, the JASSM is in process
Unlike the Storm Shadow, the US has thousands of JASSMs and parting with few hundred wouldnt be issue as Lockheed has ramped out production
Russia not a superpower
just a super joke
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As far countering tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR aircraft goes, the J-20 is pretty much becoming useless in that regard
One of the unique features of the IRIS-T is that seeker is sensitive enough to allow it to be targeted against both air to air and surface to air missiles
The Russian R-77 also claims the same performance ,able to down both air to air and surface to air missiles as well precision-guided munitions
The AIM-120D FR3 currently adds that ability to target both air to air and surface to air missiles as does the AIM-260 JATM
The F-15EX with AMBER can carry up 22 AIM-120s vs the J-20 load of just 4 BVR missiles ,even without AMBER, the F-15EX still carries 8 AIM-120
The J-20's ability to target tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR relies them attacking from outside defending fighters range,however its moot if the defenders can shoot down the missiles
In order to protect the missiles, they will need J-16 EW to jam radar, without , those missiles won't get near tankers, AWACS and other C4ISTAR and they can't risk getting up close
The J-16 problem is that the E-3 , E-2D and the E-7 would not have any issues with its jamming. Unlike the Russia, the US heavily invested in aerial jamming with the EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B, AWACS. Training with these assets makes it easier for them to deal with the J-16s jamming as well EA-18G, EC-130 Compass call and the newer EC-37B counter jamming
The J-16 last and by far biggest problem is the RC-135 Rivet Joint and Combat Sent which can read the J-16s jamming
So J-20's role has quite a hurdles to overcome
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@yellowtunes2756
t's about flying without being interfered by enemy planes, which is the case for Russia-Wrong true air superiority is total and complete control of the battlespace
It's impossible to destroy every piece of equipment on the opposite side- Wrong
USA lost 10k planes and helicopters in Vietnam.- You best statement is war decades ago that has nothing to with modern warfare
your copium is hilarious
Lets get the propaganda out of the way, if Russia destroyed 10 himars and 6 pzh2000 in August, they would have wasted no time parading the wreckage for the world to see yet nada.
US military developed Persistent Air Support (PAS) which allows for total control of the battlespace.
The first asset is the UAVs such as the MQ-9 which can function as both reconnaissance and strike asset
The second is the E-8 JSTARS provide Airborne ground surveillance (AGS) as well communicates with the MQ-9
The JSTARS also provides battle management and command/ control of aircraft. Russia has neither
The newer EA-18G can network together with multiple aircraft allow them generate targeting tracks for hostile radio-frequency sources in real time
They narrow targets to down to very very small areas. Again capability that Russia does not have
US aircraft carry Litening, LANTIRN and SNIPER XR targeting pod, Russia aircraft lack targeting pods
The only Russian aircraft with an actual targeting pod similar to the Western pods is the Su-57. The MIG-35 OLS is basically the 80s era Pave Spike pod
hopeless out dated
JDAM, PAVEWAY, JSOW, JASSM, HARPOON and SDB I/II are standard to virtually all US military strike aircraft
B-2 can't use PAVEWAYs or SDB I/II but it can use most everything else
Lets look at Russian aircraft
Not one Tu-95, Tu-22M or Tu-160 can use any of the KAB-series weapons ,more to the point only few aircraft can use them ?
Same with missiles. In short, the Russian air force virtually no commonality with weapons, its literally a sock draw of capabilities
The Russian air force convinced itself that SVP-24 was good as the western targeting pod and that has been proven false
The short comings of the Russia military is endless
Strange how the Su-33 and MIG-29K are on the sidelines
It's impossible to destroy every piece of equipment on the opposite side- Wrong
Its not about destroying every piece of equipment, its about rendering the enemy combat ineffective which the Russian air force isnt doing
The way you render an enemy combat ineffective by neutralizing their supplies and weapons
its 10 months later and that has yet to happen
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If Ukraine the time and numbers
that wouldnt matter
The JAS-39 is a lightweight powerhouse and Ukraine would do well with it but I think honestly, Ukraine will look for something else
Problem one
The F-16 can use AGM-88s while JAS-39 cant
The AGM-88 is essential for hunting SAMSs, jammer and other EW sites so its must for Ukraine
so if SAAB wants to sweeten the deal with Ukraine , they need to work on adding the AGM-88 s
Problem two
As Sweden is party to Convention on Cluster Munitions (CCM), they wouldnt be able to add cluster munitions to the JAS-39
Ukraine has uses cluster munitions to great effect. While the Alternative Warhead (AW) which produces 182,000 pre-formed tungsten fragments over area has been some what effective
Ukraine has found that standard cluster munitions are far more effective both in anti personnel and anti materiel affects
Ukraine used ATACMS with cluster munitions to shred Russian bases. The F-16 can use CBU-87/89/97 cluster munitions while the JAS-39 due to CCM , SAAB cant support or even allow it
Lastly, the JAS-39 is only intergrated with KEPD-350 which Germany has refused to Ukraine. So for long range precision strike , its Storm Shadow which Lockheed can add
There is the possiblity of JASSM-A
Basically
With the F-16s , there are very few hurdles with weapons whereas the JAS-39 has alot
Honestly, the F-18E/F or Eurofigther Typhoon would be better in the future
Ukraine issue with EW and Jamming,
I wouldnt buy the EA-18G or Typhoon EK
I would follow the Israeli air force path with taking a business jet and making it in to EW platform as well AWACS
killing birds with one stone
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@1chish
No you just like to twist facts
SELEX (aka Leonardo) is similar to General Dynamics , a company that covers a wide array of defense programs , Like the GD, they have a hand in defense but not a world leader
The F-15EX uses two Advanced Display Core Processor (ADCP) II which can process as high as 87 billion instructions per second of computing throughput
Whats under the hood of the Typhoon again, nothing nowhere near that
The PIRATE IRST is built into the airframe is its limited both in size and capability
The Legion pod has vastly superior resolution and range and already has planned roadmap for increasing both resolution and network centric capabilities
The DragonEye's pod which is AESA has allows the F-15EX simultaneously to look in multiple directions. The pod can survey the ground allowing the main radar to maximize its search capability for aerial threats vs allocating T/R modules. In sense it gives the WSO his own radar to use
but by all mean continue with the pointless quotes that amount to nothing
FYI
The Air Force originally asked for funding to buy 33 F-35As in 2023, which was lower than the 48 the service asked for in 2022. Secretary Frank Kendall said the Air Force wanted to use the money freed up by buying fewer F-35s to develop the Next Generation Air Dominance platform, work on a new, advanced engine for the F-35 and more quickly bring on the F-15EX Eagle II
Dec 7
Trying quote actual facts not months old garabage
The USAF is not walking back on the F-15EX as they need it for the ANG units and if they walk back, it would mean they would have divest precious F-35 and NGAD to ANG which they are not keen on doing
From the Sec Def Dec 3
Austin laid out some of the efforts the U.S. military is undertaking to strengthen that deterrence, including that on land, air and at sea.
In the fiscal year 2023 budget, he said, the Defense Department requested more than $56 billion for airpower. That is focused on the F-35 Lightning II, the F-15EX fighter, the B-21 Raider and other systems.
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