Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "Kyle Kulinski Says He's NOT Voting For Biden and to Blame Him If Trump Wins" video.

@maxsmart9116 Indeed. He was clearly fine with hunkering down and letting people vote later on. However, sometimes I think Bernie was too good for some of the people who claim to be his supporters. He didn't want people to die waiting for people to see if Biden would fall.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 So, you have no problem with the Voting Rights Act being gutted? If you have no problem with the Supreme Court, you're not paying attention.
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@crazyoldworld7946 Like it or not, Joe Biden or Donald Trump will win the election in November. There is a zero chance of anyone else unless one of those two becomes incapacitated. So, who gets to name the successor to RBG? If it's Trump, nothing good will survive the Supreme Court. So, yes, staying home is irresponsible.
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@davidvenegas6401 And I, for one, care about the millions of workers who won't be able to organize, the women who will be forced to carry their ectopic pregnancies to term and most likely die because some people make a fetish out of the fetus, the immigrants being kidnapped, and everyone fighting to make things better. Because all of these things are going to be at stake based on the very likely chance that RBG will not be able to survive the next Presidential term. If Trump gets to name her successor, all of these things will get worse. And an entire generation will fight in vain to make any of these things better, because a 6-3 or 7-2 right-wing majority means that every good thing that we can somehow get through Congress and signed into law will get struck down.
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@nates9029 It's like these people are forgetting that there is a Supreme Court. It could be very possible that a 6-3 or 7-2 hard right Court decides not only to get rid of the ACA, but declare all regulations on the insurance industry unconstitutional.
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@nates9029 Let's go!
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@nates9029 And it took over 20 years of Supreme Court picks to make Brown v. Board even possible. Somewhere along the way, people on the left just ceded the courts and forgot about the long-term consequences of that decision. Either that, or neglecting labor, is the worst strategic blunder in modern political history.
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People said that the party would move to the left and cater to them if they threw the election to Republicans in 2000 and 2016. How did that work out?
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@DDARKmodp I voted for Bernie in the primary and Hillary in the general, too. The point that I am making is that people keep saying that a pefty should draw votes away from the Democratic nominee to scare them into courting votes on the left. Its effect was questionable in 2016, but undeniable in 2000. Did Kucinich win in 2004? Did Bernie win this time? So, why would 2024 be any different, except now you would have a Supreme Court that would strike down anything good that President AOC or anyone else can get through Congress.
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@izzaduck8896 For all this talk about what a genius strategist Kyle Kulinski is, by encouraging people not to vote, he is making the Justice Democrats endorsement toxic. And if Trump gets to name the successor to RBG, nothing good will become law. We already have a Supreme Court that was willing to cite a 1910 case that was overruled to ban child labor laws. Some people don't realize the battle we are fighting. If Kyle wanted to say, "I live in a safe state, so I am not voting for Biden," I would be fine with that. Encouraging people not to vote is going into Jimmy Dore territory. No, wait. It's worse than Jimmy Dore, because he didn't say anything about screwing over down ballot candidates in 2016.
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Quite frankly, this election has proven to me why Republicans win. Too many on the left are lazy. Of course, someone will read this and say that I am "shaming" people. Well, they can like it or not, but after Goldwater got hammered in 1964, the right didn't whine about how they would stay home to spite Nixon, they worked hard and won party committee seats, precinct and ward jobs, school boards, city council and state legislative seats, so that by 1980 they were unstoppable. Quite frankly, from a political standpoint, they deserved to win, and if we aren't willing to do the work and go vote, they deserve to lose. Kyle Kulinski encouraging people not to vote is the equivalent of saying, "I tried for four years, and now I'm giving up." I think you're right that it makes more sense if Jimmy Dore is a Republican plant. Sadly, I am starting to worry that Krystal Ball is also going down that road, because she seems to be going far harder against establishment Dems than Trump, who is objectively worse. I am 40 with a four-year-old daughter, and I will NOT see her future destroyed over some tantrum.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 That's not what is lazy. What is lazy is sitting and complaining, and not voting for Bernie when people had the chance. What is lazy is giving up on electoral politics after four years. What did you do to try to help Bernie win the nomination? What specifically. Commenting on YouTube videos does not count. I know from personal experience that there were a lot of chances for activism in Philadelphia. Did you take advantage of them? And where are the people running down ballot? I see some, but I see a lot of people throwing in the towel after four years. My example was the effort by the right to take over the Republican Party and the country that took 16 years. We have done nothing comparable on the left.
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@thepolishlatinofromphilly9709 Garland or better > Gorsuch or worse And for all if your complaints about the court appointees, how did Sotomayor and Kagan vote on the Shelby case again? Did they vote to gut the Voting Rights Act?
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@davidvenegas6401 So, people who can't vote are in the same boat as people who can do the thing that people died to give them the right to do, and they refuse? Got it.
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@crazyoldworld7946 Well, the reason why it started in the 1980s is because the right didn't whine about how they were going to stay home after getting slaughtered in 1964 and seeing establishment candidates win the nomination three times in a row after that. They organized. They ran for stuff down ballot: party committee spots, precinct and ward chairs, school board seats, city council and state legislature members, and then by 1980, they became unstoppable. If they are going to spend 16 years fighting to hurt people, why are so many giving up in the fight to help people? Republicans and centrists win because, quite frankly, too many on the left are lazy. I remember last week talking to someone who was insisting that Bernie should run on the Green Party, and I pointed out that sore loser laws don't allow it. Then, she accused me of being a Hill Shill from the last cycle. When I pointed out all I did to work for Bernie this time and asked her what she did, stony silence. I can't help but appreciate the irony that the people who believe government doesn't work always show up to vote, but it's true. It should be those of us who see its potential.
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@davidvenegas6401 And do you honestly think that the people who win office care about low turnout? If you honestly think that they do, and they will address the concerns of the non-voter, you haven't been paying attention for the past 230 years. Why do you think no one will openly admit to opposing Social Security, but it's considered "radical" to offer free college tuition and student loan forgiveness?
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@davidvenegas6401 Did I say "put kids in cages"? No, I did not. I said kidnapping children. As many faults as Obama had, kidnapping children is not one of them. He didn't order children separated from their families without keeping track of the parents, then send the children thousands of miles away. If you think that is the same as "putting kids in cages," then I don't know what to tell you. And you are missing my point completely. For one, usually when I hear the word "shaming," it tends to be whining about someone saying something critical, as though someone can ignore the consequences of their actions. If you live in a swing state and don't want to vote for Biden, have at it. However, those of us who live in a swing state do not have that luxury. Like it or not, Joe Biden or Donald Trump will be President at noon on January 20. And one thing I noticed that you didn't address at all was the Supreme Court. Four of the five members of the conservative bloc are there because they were appointed by Republican Presidents who most Americans rejected in favor of another candidate who snuck in via the Electoral College at least in part because people insisted that there was no difference between the major-party nominees and wanted to "teach the Democratic Party a lesson and force them to pick a lefty the next time." (Admittedly, this played a much more obvious role in 2000 than 2016, where there was some ambiguity over whether or not that was enough.) One of the Justices on the liberal bloc is 87 and has had multiple bouts of cancer. Another turns 82 in August. If Trump gets to name the replacement for one or both of them, we may very well see labor unions abolished. (Even before Kavanaugh, they cited a decision that was overturned that struck down child labor laws. This would be like using Plessy v. Ferguson to decide a civil rights case.) Even before this round of right-wing Justices, the Voting Rights Act was gutted. If you want to ignore the consequences of those things, I will not aide and abet your guilty conscience. And unless a plane carrying Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh crashes while a Democratic President and Senate are in office. This election is not about the next four years. It is about whether any good things can be accomplished in forty years. I actually went out and did the work to try to help Bernie win the nomination. I knocked on thousands of doors, did a reading at a fundraiser, made dozens of calls, and served as a captain on a petition drive. What did you do? Did you do the work, or did you sit on the sidelines and complain?
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@davidvenegas6401 Did you knock on doors? Did you make phone calls? I knocked on doors, I made calls, did a reading for a fundraiser, and I was the captain of a petition drive to get Bernie on the ballot. This on top of giving money. Oh, and I'm a single parent, so I brought my four-year-old daughter along while doing several of these things. Everyone has something that they can use an excuse to say that they can't do the work. And, yes, Republicans blocked Garland. But guess what? That means that you have to make sure that Mitch McConnell isn't the Senate Majority Leader anymore. And if Biden wins, it takes a net of three to make sure Turtle is irrelevant. Jones in Alabama is probably a goner, so let's say four. There is a real chance to win seats in Arizona, Colorado, Maine, Iowa, Montana, and North Carolina. Win four of six, and we get someone like Sotomayor or Kagan on the bench, so that way a generation doesn't have to worry about the abolition of child labor laws, civil rights laws, and environmental laws.
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@davidvenegas6401 I didn't say that I was going to volunteer for Biden. I said that I was going to vote for him because I live in a swing state. There was no "retreat" to local elections, just an acknowledgment that a) that is how you take over a party, and b) an acknowledgment of the fact that the Senate gets to decide whether or not the President gets the chosen Supreme Court nominee. If you only focus on the top of the ticket, then you are allowing the party to hollow out, and you sound like the people who are in denial about the down ballot damage that Obama did to the party because he won twice.
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@davidvenegas6401 And, as I said, everyone has excuses for not taking action. It wasn't a competition about who has the biggest. The people who fought for civil rights in the 1960s and the right to organize in the 1930s had it much worse than most people today. Then again, part of the reason we have it as good as we do is because of people like them.
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@davidvenegas6401 I never said it didn't. I said that ignoring electoral politics is dangerous, and you have never explained how people will not be harmed by such inaction. So, you're still wrong.
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@davidvenegas6401 I did. He will make better Supreme Court choices, thus giving future generations an actual chance at getting good legislation passed. Trump guarantees a veto on any good bill for 30-40 years to come. If that means nothing to you (and given that you are conflating unaccompanied minors being detained until talking to a lawyer with kidnapping children and expecting a two year old to represent herself in court despite not speaking English tells me that you are either a Trump supporter trolling or willfully ignorant), then you are indifferent to the suffering of future generations.
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@davidvenegas6401 Obama had a Republican Senate to deal with in 2016. If Biden gets a Democratic Senate, it's not luck at all. So, are you a Trump troll, or are you someone who hits doesn't understand how electoral politics works? At this point, I really can't tell.
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@davidvenegas6401 I just have to say, control of the Senate is simple luck? Really? No wonder you have such odd takes!
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@davidvenegas6401 Look at the numbers. Arizona and Colorado already look like lost causes for the Republicans, and Maine is rapidly approaching that level. So, one of three other vulnerable Senators falling when, among others, a popular governor is also running, I would say that things look good if Biden also wins.
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