Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "Jimmy Dore's Dangerous Lightbulb Moment" video.

@hardbodyfitnessandmotivati6743 The mask was off with "Blame me if Trump wins." Have you ever heard him criticize Jimmy Dore, Krystal Ball, or Joe Rogan? At best, he is someone who lets personal relationships cloud his judgment. Hearing someone using elitist arguments against voting was the last straw. (At one point, he made some germaphobic remarks about how dirty polling places were as if absentee ballots aren't a thing.)
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@yogoshun On the right, Barry Goldwater is respected for exposing the John Birch Society for the evil they are. Sam Seder is doing a great favor to the left to steer people away from this evil grifter.
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Tim Pool suffers from Mike Love Syndrome: he thinks nobody knows he's bald if he always wears a hat.
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The most true thing he has ever said.
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@bjornyesterday2562 He hates Trump so much that he told anyone who would listen that Trump would be a better President than Hillary and that we should ignore the Supreme Court. He is either controlled opposition or a useful idiot. Which one?
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@iamdanyboy1 Honest? His head is so far up the butts of Jimmy Dore, Krystal Ball, and Joe Rogan that he can't see straight. "Blame me if Trump wins"? Even after acknowledging how dangerous Trump is and that Biden was clearly a preferable alternative
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@brasshouse-fireball Okay. Let's follow your logic. You are aware that there are a list of sponsors, right? Unless anyone else has signed on between the beginning of the Congress 54 days ago and today that I haven't noticed, we are up to 118 & 13. It takes 218 & 50 (assuming you can get reconciliation) to pass. If you hold a vote, one of three things will happen: 1) The sponsor count is an accurate reflection of support, and the bill loses with less than 1/3 of the vote in each House. The bill goes nowhere, and bringing it up again does nothing. 2) The Soft Yes sponsors are angered by the tactic and vote No. It fails by an even worse margin and you have alienated potential supporters 3) Several people who fear a primary opponent on the left will vote Yes, but not nearly enough to pass the bill, and you have taken the heat off several members who, like when Republicans voted to repeal the ACA knowing it would fail who got cold feet when it was real, are not going to vote Yes when you need it. Literally none of those end in passage, which tells me that either you listened to someone with no understanding of how politics works and didn't bother to think of step two, or you are trying to divide the left to help Republicans.
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@brasshouse-fireball He was so against the outsourcing of labor that he continued to outsource for his own work, and his tax policies did nothing about outsourcing. Complaining about furriners is not populist. That is scapegoating. The mere fact that you are saying "overall farming" means that you are including Big Agribusiness. It has been great for them, because it has made it easier to sweep up family farms. Funny that you keep ignoring the fact that Trump literally said "wages are too high in America." Xenophobia is not populism.
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@janreal84 Well, you're defending right-wing extremists who want a second civil war, so it looks like Jimmy Dore is a perfect match for you.
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@brasshouse-fireball Okay, if it is such a no brainier to force the vote, what was your step two? Someone in these very spaces was adamant that there was a big rally coming on January 3rd was going to show the strength of the "movement." What happened? 50 people showed up, they were overshadowed by the fascists trying to overturn the election, and there was pretty much no coverage at all. Is the goal to have a fight, or is the goal to actually get legislation passed?
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@brasshouse-fireball If a majority supports it, and it is a voting issue, why isn't Bernie President? There is a lot more soft support out there than people will admit, and the 21% it got in Colorado on a ballot initiative put the fear of good into nobody.
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@brasshouse-fireball Donald Trump was not an "anti-establishment populist." He wanted just enough people to believe that to ignore that brown people are not the problem. No one who says "wages are too high in America" at a debate is a populist. And I support Medicare for All. The difference is that I actually look past the first line of a poll. For years, I thought we should call it Medicare for All instead of single payer, but too few people seemed to actually know what it was. I am aware of the benefits, but like so many of the Force the Vote crowd, you don't seem to understand that forcing the vote when it is guaranteed to fail (even its advocates admitted that) doesn't give a single person anywhere health care, and if it loses big, it discredits the whole idea.
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@brasshouse-fireball There is no such thing as a right wing populist. He literally said that wages are too high in America in a debate. Anyone who believes that is not a populist. He passed a tax plan that made Bush look like Robin Hood in comparison. Anyone who pretends to be a right wing populist is there to use brown people and some nefarious elite (usually Jewish, often someone educated who made somebody feel bad) in order to distract from the real issue. Those tariffs sure did help those farmers who needed two bailouts while corporate profits and the trade deficit soared!
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@brasshouse-fireball So, you think that you can organize to defeat 104 incumbents in primaries? [In Dr. Evil voice] Riiight.
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@brasshouse-fireball Again, I support Medicare for All. Unlike kamikaze efforts with no step two, I have done the actual work to build support. You can't insist that something is inevitable because of polls when farther down the polls show that a majority think that a bill is something different than what it is (53% think Medicare for All allows competing private insurance). Think that it is inevitable means that you won't do the work.
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@brasshouse-fireball Do the actual work. Coronavirus permitting, knock on doors, make calls, sign petitions, and get others to do the same. If you member does not sponsor Medicare for All, put that pressure on and then if it doesn't work, you look at key districts and find a primary opponent. At this point, it's better to focus on blue areas to stop giving the Blue Dogs cover. Find competitive districts to defeat Republicans, because none of them are ever going to support Medicare for All.
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@brasshouse-fireball Here in Philadelphia, several groups (I did it with DSA and Philly for Bernie, but others such as Health Care 4 All PA and Neighborhood Networks played a role as well) did just that, and we got two members of Congress to sponsor the bill (Dwight Evans and Brendan Boyle). It can be done, because it has been done. And again, forcing a vote in hopes that a primary challenge would defeat them ignores the fact that Biden won the nomination while saying that he wouldn't sign the bill. If your theory of the case was accurate, Biden would have lost. You can hold your breath and have tantrums all you want, but if you are too lazy to do the actual work (which is what Force the Vote is an admission of), you'll never be able to do that much work to defeat 104 incumbents in primaries. And forcing the vote will ruin any goodwill for getting it passed. Your way is like saying, "It takes too long to put the car engine back together, so I want to put it on the road right now."
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@estebanarmantrouto7961 You can't work with people who refuse to support common solutions. Bernie worked with Mike Lee on the War Powers Act because they agree. The right doesn't want Medicare for All. They won't even support their alternative to Hillarycare.
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@hitoshijohnson There is a lot more overlap on that Venn Diagram that Dore fanboys want to admit.
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@Mistyfire Nothing to Russiagate? I suppose all those people who admitted to crimes related to it were part of the conspiracy to make Trump look bad, too. And I guess these quotes were either made up or taken out of context: "If it's what you say it is, I love it! Especially in the fall." "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you find the e-mails." "You're about to hear something very interesting about the e-mails." [Days before the Podesta e-mails drop.]
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@Mistyfire What happened in the investigation? Mueller said that he could not answer directly Trump's role in criminal activity because he wasn't allowed to do so, but he clearly answered things that Trump were innocent of and refused to answer with several others, and he gave ten examples of possible obstruction. And several people involved either pleaded guilty or were convicted of crimes. So, yes, I do trust our system.
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@josevonbuergenwader2 Well, Trump isn't a populist, but everything else is spot on.
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@akihitochan Then, what is the context? I've heard Ted Nugent pull the same move when called out on his nonsense.
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@weneedcriticalthinking I take it that your pretending that the Seder/Dore debate never took place? Look at the trajectory of people like HA Goodman, and you will find that they are very similar.
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@iamdanyboy1 But then he refuses to vote at all in 2020, even for down ballot races, and tells Joe Rogan that he didn't vote because he lives in a safe state (although there were some key legislative races) and the polling places looked dirty. He is definitely going down that road.
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