Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "Libertarian Challenges Sam To Most Unproductive Debate Of All Time" video.

@vincesmith2499 Laura Ingalls Wilder's daughter not only refused Social Security (and she applied for Medicare six years after the program started, so even if she reached the cap, she paid less than $2000 in taxes), so apparently principles didn't matter to Rand when those medical bills came in and she found out the hard way that she was wrong about smoking and lung cancer.
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 @vincesmith2499 That's not true. People are granted a religious exemption from Social Security all the time, such as the Amish.
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Indeed. If A=A, what is the B that leads people to this goofy philosophy?
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For those who think that "Well, she paid into it" is a suitable reslonse to the fact that Ayn Rand collected Social Security, here are some things to ponder: 1) Rose Wilder Lane and Isobel Patterson also paid into Social Security, and both refused to take it. Rose Wilder Lane even decided to live a life of voluntary simplicity (echoing the prairie life of her mother, Laura Ingalls Wilder) for many years in order to not have to pay taxes. 2) Sje omly paid into Medicare for sic years before taking it, so she definitely got back way more than the less than $2000 she paid in when she got lung cancer. 3] People of her ilk believe that we shpuld suffer if we make bad choices, but she got lung cancer in no small part because she didn't believe the studies that connected cigarette smoking to lung cancer, so by her logic, freedom should have meant she was on her own. 4) The average Social Security recipient receives much more than he/she paid into the system due to COLAs.
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@vincesmith2499 Doesn't change the fact that there are people who don't have to pay into Social Security. Given that she was willing to use an assumed name so her friends in the club wouldn't find out about her taking Social Security and Medicare, surely nothing was stopping her from lying about her religion, or making up her own (she was a cult leader, after all) so that she could have gotten an exemption.
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@java4653 There was that moment in the debate when someone asked Ron Paul what should happen if someone without insurance got sick, and he basically said that the person should die in so many words, because "that's what happens with freedom." Apparently, she didn't like that idea when it happened to her.
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