Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "How To Spot Grifters On The Left" video.

@TheBlazersfan22 Not only did she backtrack, but she called Medicare for All "un-American." You can't get a bigger dog whistle than that.
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A good test is whether or not they insist that others have to follow purity tests, but instead of supporting actual advocates of positions they claim to espouse, they end up endorsing the most right wing candidate not named Michael Bloomberg in the primary.
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@harveymanfredsenjenson5417 You mean because she didn't want a stupid tactic that she knew wouldn't work, and instead used her leverage intelligently to get the paygo rules weakened so we were able to get the coronavirus bill and we're on the verge of getting several trillion for infrastructure? What a horrible advocate!
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@Addamo No, he just started by telling people that Bernie was the best candidate in 2016 and has spent 2021 playing a minstrel version of the left for Tucker Carlson and encouraging his audience to work with literal fascists.
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@pbeston73 You miss the point completely. Do you honestly think that Bernie was the second most right wing Presidential candidate? That would be Tulsi Gabbard.
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@slamandjam2 Tulsi was the candidate who supported torture. Tulsi was the one who compared the Iran nuclear deal to Munich. She spent the whole campaign trying to appeal to Republicans only, and once she flamed out, she ended her Congressional career pushing nonsense from Project Veritas to try to make it harder for the elderly and disabled to vote, and pushing right wing dog whistles about high school sports. And that big takedown of Kamala Harris that tulcels like to bring up? It was to stop an attack on Biden.
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@Addamo Boogaloo Boys pretend to be left to pull people into their movement to support a racial civil war. No red/brown alliance. Thank you for playing.
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@slamandjam2 When it came to healthcare, she called Medicare for All "un-American," and if you don't see it for the obvious dog whistle that it is to call the proposal of the most famous socialist living in America today "un-American," then you don't understand a thing about politics. And Biden has consistently opposed torture. Tulsi used a scenario straight out of 24 to support it even when warned that torture doesn't work. Tulsi Gabbard is not your friend.
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@jpbm1873 Oh, look, the false equivalence brigade right on schedule. Because apparently you can't make a positive step to deal with nuclear proliferation without "regime change wars." I don't care where you're from, because ignorance is universal.
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@888strummer Jimmy Dore wants to divide the left to help the right win. Funny how he has had more nice things to say about literal fascists than people who he supposedly agrees with.
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@FelixDaleth He only supports the ones who he thinks will lose. The instant they win the nomination (See: Ocasio Cortez, Alexandria; Bush, Cori), he calls them sellouts.
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@jpbm1873 By your logic, Ron Paul is a lefty. There is a difference between isolationism and peace. People who desire peace don't defend regimes that use chemical weapons on their own people and recite their propaganda. People who desire peace don't compare the Iran nuclear deal to Munich. People who desire peace don't praise a hasty retreat that causes the slaughter of thousands of Kurds. People who desire peace don't support torture ever. People who desire peace don't praise Sisi for killing protesters in Egypt. People who desire peace don't defend Modi and his multiple massacres. Tulsi Gabbard is content to let the world burn as long as it isn't American soldiers suffering.
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@FelixDaleth It was literally before she was sworn inwhen she said that she would support the winner of the Democratic gubernatorial primary. Once Cuomo won the nomination and she gave this half-hearted statement, he insisted that she was a sellout.
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@bobdobbz9334 1) Republicans didn't filibuster Garland. They just refused to hold any hearings, because they were in the majority. 2) Democrats couldn't filibuster Kavanaugh (or Barrett, for that matter), because McConnell got rid of the judicial filibuster when they tried to filibuster Garland. The lack of knowledge by you Dore knobs never ceases to amaze me.
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@bobdobbz9334 And how is that 6-3 right wing Supreme Court majority working out?
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Then, why did he talk about what a sellout the main author of the bill was in 2020 and endorse the candidate who called it un-American in an interview with Anderson Cooper?
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@harveymanfredsenjenson5417 What is stupid about it? In order to first understand how this works as a legislative tactic, you have to understand Catch and Release. So, do you understand Catch and Release as a legislative tactic?
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@harveymanfredsenjenson5417 Do actual grassroots organizing to build support. Funny how pretty much every Dore knob who thinks that's a good idea has never actually done anything.
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@GormTheElder So, you can't assume that everyone who disagrees tactically is against you, but you are defending someone who says that anyone who doesn't agree with his dumb strategy doesn't really support Medicare for All? Do you appreciate the irony?
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@GormTheElder Jimmy's support for Medicare for All is insincere because he supported the candidate who called Medicare for All "un-American" and then said that her strategy of a public option was a smart political strategy.
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@GormTheElder Jimmy Dore is not an activist. If you think he is, what have you personally done to build support for Medicare for All? And commenting on YouTube doesn't count.
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Dore wants to make an alliance with fascists and wants to see good people defeated because they won't go on the show. To say that he is toxic is an insult to poison.
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@FelixDaleth Calling for a third party from the left makes it easier for Republicans to win. Therefore, it is a grift and a pander to the right. Why else do you think that 10% of Nader donors in 2000 and 2004 were Republicans, and Republicans represented the Green Party in 2020 to try to get them on the ballot after messing up their petition drive in Wisconsin?
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@GormTheElder Actual grassroots efforts and organizing makes you an activist.
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@sondre4212 You mean that she learned that certain tactics were stupid and decided to abandon them? Perish the thought!
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@sondre4212 What leverage? You want a vote that you know will fail. And that will give Medicare for All how? And they got an amendment to the paygo rules that meant that the coronavirus bill and the infrastructure bill became possible. But, yeah, she should have held out for a vote that she knew would fail.
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@GormTheElder So, I guess that you don't understand how Catch and Release works. The vote is nowhere near passage, and the leadership clearly doesn't want another Eliot Engel, so knowing that it will fail, members in lefty districts will vote Yes to fend off a primary challenge (See: Gabbard, Tusli), and they will pull that support away if there is any chance of passage. So, you have an Underpants Gnomes strategy that hinges on not understanding the basics of legislative strategy. Not surprising given its architect and its defenders.
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@GormTheElder Okay, so you have descended into non-sequiturs to the point where you have lost the thread. Maybe instead of a willy measuring contest or virtue signaling, do the actual grassroots organizing needed to build support for Medicare for All. Bernie didn't become the Amendment King by thumping his chest. He did it by knowing how to work with people and learning when to build coalitions, not tear everything down and alienate people you have to work with.
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@GormTheElder What is your evidence that a majority supports Medicare for All? Do not say polls, because even if people agree with you on an issue, it doesn't mean a thing if it doesn't affect how people vote. In 2016, Colorado had a ballot initiative for Medicare for All. It got 21%. In 2020, Biden said that he wouldn't sigh Medicare for All during the beginning of the pandemic (since the Force the Vote people love to use that as a talking point) and his polling numbers in the primary didn't move, so it doesn't sound like a vote over a year out is going to have the desired effect if the sponsor list more or less is accurate and defeat over 100 incumbents. The poll that the Force the Vote people love to point out to insist that all they need is the vote to garner public support shows some much more discouraging things below the headline question. A majority think that Medicare for All will allow people to keep their private insurance (and a higher percentage of supporters think that), and support drops below 50% when asked if they support a single payer system. I have done the actual organizing work, and I have heard similar responses several times. So, you have to do the actual work to make sure that support is not really for a public option and that it will actually move people at the ballot box. No, this is not a video game, but that applies in ways that help my argument rather than yours, because it requires that people to get off their butts and do the actual work. And given that all of the talk is about going after members of the party where a majority in the House have sponsored the bill and none of it is targeting the party where literally zero members support it, that tells me that there is no strategic thought at all to this plan. Organizing isn't about instant gratification or a willy waving contest. It is about going to your neighbors and making your representation know what you want.
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 @MABfan11 And I'm on the e-mail lists of two of the "sponsors" of that march in Philadelphia. Neither said a word, which makes me think that they never really did.
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@Addamo When he spent months insisting that Trump would be better than Hillary, the Supreme Court didn't matter, and Mitch McConnell getting rid of the judicial filibuster was akin to the moon falling into Lake Michigan.
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@Addamo Wrong. In the 2016 debate, he explicitly said that Trump would be better and mentioned Syria and TPP to justify this.
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@luckyclick100mviews7 She realized that forcing the vote was a stupid tactic, so instead of wasting her leverage on that, she instead used it to weaken paygo rules, which made the coronavirus bill and the infrastructure bill possible. It looks like she is actually learning how to use her power.
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@emiiii What do you base this notion that "he means well" on? I keep hearing it, but the evidence shows the exact opposite. He never criticizes his friends, but he chooses to befriend grifters and clout chase. He refused to vote at all in 202p because "the polling place looked dirty" and then insisted that it didn't matter if he voted because he lived in a swing state, even though there were key legislative races, and this is someone who supposedly cared about down ballot candidates. And let us not forget that he chooses to complain about people like AOC trying to do actual legislative work and not become a pariah, all while he works with the worst of the worst. What evidence at all is there that Kyle Kulinski is not a grifter?
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 @Strype13 Still have that opinion after seeing what the Supreme Court has done?
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@reav3rtm If he really supports Medicare for All, why does he spend all of his time calling those who support it sellouts while supporting a candidate who called it "un-American" and his wife gave $1000 to a Republican running against a Democrat who supports Medicare for All and is pur best chance to get rid of actual sellout Kyrsten Sinema?
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@hello7032 She was the loudest voice insisting that Bernie could win the nomination with 30% of the primary vote because there was no way that the other candidates would coalesce around one candidate. Her involving Michael Brooks in the FTV debate was vile. And that debate was total bad faith because she kept getting mad at Sam for changing his opinion from one that he never had in the first place, because he always insisted that he thought there were better ways to get leverage. And what does it say that the nicest, most forgiving person in American politics wants nothing to do with her?
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@hello7032 Indeed. Any idiot can blow things up.
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@luckyclick100mviews7 Yes and yes.
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@harveymanfredsenjenson5417 You apparently missed the point. She actually got the rule changed that makes possible the multi-trillion dollar package that means that we'll get investment in people to better make society function. Instead, Jimmy Dore wanted to use that leverage for a bill that everyone knows will fail. If I want to engage in a self-indulgent activity that won't get anything done, I'll get some lube.
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@luckyclick100mviews7 Wrong. There were zero Repbulivan votes for the coronavirus bill, and there were zero Republican votes to support the framework of the $3.5T bill that will pass through reconciliation.
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@dirrdevil Krystal Ball has been a grifter for a pretty long time. Between MSNBC and The Hill, she started a PAC that was supposed to help elect lefty candidates... but more than eight times the money went into her own pockets than all candidates combined. As far as Kyle Kulinski goes, I get the feeling like this was always a game to him. Anyone who wouldn't vote because "the polling place looked dirty" isn't serious.
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@superb9151 You mean people like Bernie? Or do you mean "fighters" like Jimmy Dore who supported the candidate who called Medicare for All "un-American" in the primaries and praised her for her brilliant tactics?
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