Comments by "wvu05" (@wvu05) on "Dave Rubin Finds God" video.

@NJ-wb1cz There is a huge difference between bringing people on to show how much they suck and because you want to "share i-DEE-uhs" while you let them say their awful nonsense unchallenged. Besides, as someone else said, he was offered the big bucks and turned it down.
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@markusmiekk-oja3717 Or it could be a case of using fundamentalist Christians to achieve his aims. If he lived in Israel, he would drop the "Christian" part in a heartbeat. If someone wanted to give a charitable interpretation of what he said, you could point out that Hammurabi had different rules for people based on class whereas the Torah has the same level of punishment for free people, so it was a move toward equality under the law. And a lot of rules for the Levites and Cohenites were because they were supposed to take care of the Temple. Civil law does apply to everyone in the Torah, though. I think that accepting Yeshua as the Messiah would just be a step too far for him. As bad as his takes may be, he does seem to believe them.
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@NJ-wb1cz So, you're really going in for the long haul rather than admitting that just maybe you were wrong?
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@NJ-wb1cz I'm saying that if you are going to cast aspersions for someone, saying that he is taking that long of a game (especially after turning down the big bucks before) is a statement that strains credulity. You don't like Pakman. We get it. At least when those of us who said that it was a matter of time before Jimmy Dore pulled the "why I left the left" pivot, we offered reasons, and we didn't tell people to come back in 10-20 years. Someone with questionable foreign policy takes who takes a lefty view on domestic policies isn't someone looking to go on a Koch bender. And the "sensible convert" lane isn't really for people going from left to center right. It is for people going hard right to center right (See: Scarborough, Joe; Schmidt, Steve; Wallace, Nicolle).
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@NJ-wb1cz Opinions should be based on facts, though. Going to precrime levels because of personal dislike of someone is a completely different story.
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@NJ-wb1cz It is totally based on fact. It is a fact that you started this thread by saying that you expected David Pakman to go down the Rubin route. It is a fact that when challenged, you emphasized your personal dislike and then gave a deadline of 10-20 years. It is also a fact that the enlightened centrist grift (which you retreated to after the Rubin grift was proven to be something that he turned down) is done by people going right to left, not the other way around. I gave examples. And Pete Buttigieg is not doing the enlightened centrist grift, but the nonideological meritocracy grift, so those are different things. It is also a fact that you offered no example of why he would other than "I get that feeling about him." The 10-20 year timeframe is just a step above the people who always predict a recession and brag that they were right when one hits, as though there isn't always one coming down the line.
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@NJ-wb1cz You are aware of figurative language, right?
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@NJ-wb1cz And, in all honesty, I find the odds if the Republican Party as we know it ever moving past Trump to be virtually nil. A lot of people would have to die off or get collective amnesia, and these people are this century's Lost Cause types.
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@NJ-wb1cz Still, let's say for the sake of argument that Republicans do memory hole Trump in 10-20 years and look to rebuild their image. Why would they go center? And, this is a fact, the Republican Party has not moved to the left since Dewey and Eisenhower. They went from Goldwater to Reagan to Gingrich to Bush to the Tea Party to Trump. What in the last 60 years gives you the confidence that they will turn port instead of starboard?
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@NJ-wb1cz My opinions are based in fact and responding to your argument. It's not my fault that you can't understand that basic concept.
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@markusmiekk-oja3717 That's because fundamentalists have more in common with themselves than other co-religionists.
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I wonder if the people at my church knew that they were renouncing Jesus when they brought bagels to eat for the coffee hour a few times.
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