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Comments by "whyamimrpink78" (@whyamimrpink78) on "Attack Ads Against Bernie Sanders Backfire" video.

People are very skeptical of the federal government. Plus, it has a long history of failure. So it is a great attack ad.
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Scott , ok, and what happens after Bernie is no longer president? Also, you have all of congress to deal with as well.
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It is a legit attack ad. People are highly skeptical of the federal government. With all of its failure how can Bernie all of a sudden give those things?
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Los Fromla , capitalism came in and made the technology beneficial to all. Government does not do that as it has no incentive to do it. FedEx invented the tracking numbers, not the government. Why? Because FedEx has competitors. If they fail they just can't raise the debt ceiling like the federal government does. Russian is your example? Their economy is poor.
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@cezarcatalin1406 , all a corporation can do is offer you a job and/or a product.
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@ivandiablo8282 , police, fire, libraries and public schools are ran and funded locally, not federally. Please understand how government works if you are going to make a comment on it.
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@frankjaviruiz , successful? Medicare, SS and Medicaid are all running out of money. The Community Mental Health Act of 1963 was a disaster for mental healthcare in this nation. The federal government will not manage those programs well, especially under Bernie.
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@frankjaviruiz , which peers?
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@plwpahi , uh, you can't take money out of those programs to pay for the programs you mentioned. And yes, they are running out of money. Ask any accountant and they will tell you pensions are a bitch. SS and Medicare are essentially pensions. They are a bitch because you cannot predict who will live and for how long and how much they will actually need. As a result SS and Medicare are running out of money as the federal government is ran by politicians, not accounting experts.
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@UCdOsonW-c22h8tR2AxPIKhg , so small nations with completely different cultures than us. No, they are not our peers. Norway and Denmark has high taxes on everyone. Their highest tax bracket is around $55,000 a year. In the US our highest is around $400,000 a year. Good luck convincing our culture in the US in paying higher taxes.
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@UCdOsonW-c22h8tR2AxPIKhg , even at that they still have problems as well.
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Los Fromla , huh? You say mail. You do realize it was the private sector that pushed the post office to do tracking numbers. The private sector made internet what it is today. The moon? You mean having Apollo 1 costing lives, Apollo 13 nearly costing lives, the Gemini 9 incident. Sure, I trust the federal government there. "Realize that in capitalism, poverty is a feature, not a bug." Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty.
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@mgenetos , spending in Medicare, Medicaid and SS have been increasing for years.
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Jimbus Rift , mental healthcare was doing great until the federal government became involved. "The government is a collective of people, not a machine." We have 320+ million people in the US. We are very diverse. Having a centralized system simply won't work.
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@frankjaviruiz , culture plays a huge role. Read the book "Debunking Utopia" on that. Culture plays a huge role all around. I am taking an international business course for my MBA and on day one we discussed culture. For my MBA study you have to take a course related to the culture of a company. You discuss culture in the Technology in Business course I had to take. Why? Because a lot of companies have work done overseas and you need to understand their culture. "and it is proven that involving government in healthcare significantly reduces it's cost." Not true. Other nations pay less because they provide less. Read the book "In Excellent Health" where it is broken down how the US offers more advanced testing compared to other nations and thus has higher survival rates in advanced illnesses. so you want to bring up facts there is that as well. But again, how are you doing to convince people in our nation to pay in higher taxes?
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@kennethmcneil3478 , FDR turned a recession into a depression. Tell me when was the last time it took a decade to recover from a recession? Very few are experts in their healthcare system. You don't even understand the US healthcare system. Healthcare is complex. That is why you have people with doctorates that continue to publish papers on the topic.
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Jimbus Rift , it was until the Community Mental Health Act was passed.
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@mgenetos , again, Medicare and SS are increasing in cost in terms of percent GDP. And you brought up a great point on those programs. They are costing more than projected because it is nearly impossible to predict the actual costs of those programs. Typically, they cost more than projected. This is why so many people are concerned about the cost of M4A as everything points to it costing way more than what we spend now.
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Los Fromla , "benefit people".....or more like take advantage of useful idiots. This is common. Also, in a nation of 320+ million people it is impossible for a centralized source to fully benefit everyone. We are much too diverse as a nation. What will benefit one state won't another. The founding fathers saw this with only 13 and around three hundred thousand people. This is why federal programs usually fail. Tracking numbers did improve the quality as you can know when you will get your product and where it is at. It led to faster deliveries. Also consider how USPS does not deliver on Sunday where private companies do. China has almost no regulations and had to add nets to their companies to prevent suicide. Russia is a poor nation. "that poverty for the masses is a feature of capitalism. " How so? Please explain. Capitalism brought people out of poverty. And how did we have to rescue capitalism?
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@raykirkham5357 , billionaires do not help society? Bezos made ordering things easier for me.
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@mgenetos , Medicare pays 40% less pay compared to private insurance and is still losing money. Medicare is subsidized by the private insurance companies. Green New Deal: What type of jobs? Are they jobs of actual value? It is easy to create jobs, creating wealth is difficult. For example, I have a way to make travel overseas be zero emissions and create many jobs. Build ships that have to be rowed but hundreds of people like they had in Medieval times. Is that the route you want to take? No emissions and thousands of jobs. M4A: Less healthcare. With a 40% less pay healthcare providers are going to provide less. College for all: This will make a college degree worthless. The value of a college degree is the fact that it is an investment. Defense spending has been dropping for decades. It was around 10% of GDP in the seventies and now it is less than 4%. Also, you are deflecting when going to defense. Did I ever support increasing defense spending? Facts bud.
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@thevisitor135 https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n3/v70n3p111.html
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@raykirkham5357 , I oppose corruption. This is a major problem of the far left. They say the federal government is corrupt, but then want to give it more power to control your healthcare and a large portion of the economy. This is comparable to the abused person in an abusive relationship. You have a woman in an abusive relationship so their solution is to marry the person as if that will have them stop. It doesn't so their next solution is to have a kid, and then another, etc. as if that will end the abuse. It doesn't. Expanding government will lead to more corruption. I support limited government.
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@kennethmcneil3478 , healthcare is complex, very few know what goes on. Canadians, like Americans, know very little about their healthcare system. They don't understand others as well. So why should we listen to them? You can listen to non experts all you want, I listen to experts. As for satisfactory rate, in the US it is around 80%. I know math, stats and facts are hard for you, but half of 90% if 45%.
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@grmpEqweer , that 45,000 stat has been challenged. To start, what do you have to compare that to? Amenable mortality is an issue every nation faces. You can't just throw a stat out there with no comparison. People die in every nation due to lack of access. So is that 45,000 high, low or the average? Well, around 40,000 die a year in car accidents, but I don't see an uproar on that. Also, as prof. Katherine Baicker said, those 45,000 are poor, and bad health is associated with those in poverty. So the question becomes do they die due to lack of access or due to being in bad health to begin with? As pointed out in the book "Being Mortal" required reading for nursing majors in my university, people seek out modern medicine to live another 5 or 10 years but will only live another 5 or 10 months. So if you give those 45,000 healthcare and they live only 5 more months, what was the success? Also, Prof. Richard Kronick did a similar study and found that expanding coverage will not lead to less deaths. You have to try harder than talking points. As for us paying more, that is because we offer more. In the book "In Excellent Health" the author there breaks down how we offer more advanced testing compare to other nations. For example, we offer more CT scans and MRIs per capita. Those testing cost money. Other nations cap how much care you receive. That is why the US leads the world in survival rates of advanced illnesses. As for medical bankruptcy, that is arguably a myth. Read the study entitled "Myth and Measurement — The Case of Medical Bankruptcies" I have seen all the talking points that you have given. This is the problem with the far left. They have nothing beyond talking points. These issues are very complex. I need more than just talking points. You have to dig farther.
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@mgenetos , you know why healthcare costs have gone up so much? Because of government regulations and subsidizes. Medicare costs have gone up slower because Medicare simply covers less. For example, it took 40 years for Medicare to finally cover prescription benefits where private insurance was covering it long before that. Also, Medicare is heavily subsidized by private insurance. If we were all on Medicare access and quality of healthcare will drop due to lower payments. So you say private insurance cost more, because they provide more. That is the harsh reality. You point to cost but completely ignore access and quality. Again, it took Medicare 40 years to finally cover prescription benefits. Look beyond cost bud. "Medicare is not subsidized. It’s healthcare provided by private hospitals paid for by public taxes." In the current state it is. One reason why healthcare is so expensive is that 1. Many go to the ER, receive care and don't pay and 2. Medicare pays 40% less. Healthcare providers make up the difference by charging private insurance more. The money has to come from somewhere. "Solar, Wind, Hydroelectric, Wave power. Federal Jobs programs to manufacture pipes on a nationwide scale to repipe places like Flint, most of Texas, Missouri, Ohio etc. Trade school for pipe-layers, Jobs digging, and rebuilding infrastructure. " So you think people are going to just be willing to work those jobs, or have the ability to work them? Also, once those things are built, then what? Now those jobs are gone. "Row-boating across the ocean seems like an unfruitful endeavor. What stops the rowers from unionizing and throwing you overboard because there’s no way you’re paying them enough to get you across the Atlantic?" Well, what is going to stop those people building pipes from unionizing and striking? It goes both ways. "College for all is useless? Is high-school for all is useless? Grade school for all useless? " K-12 is ran and funded locally and is the community placing a program to help out kids. College is an investment you make as an adult. That is where the value comes from. College is vastly different than K-12 education. Compare the two. In college you are an adult, you make the choice to go to college. One problem we have in our nation is that many don't view college that way, they have the viewpoint you have that college is simply and extension of high school and thus approach college wrong. College is an investment. When you approach college that way it will benefit you more. If you view college as an extension of high school you won't gain anything. . "nd, you know exactly why I brought up military spending. If military spending is out of control and it doesn’t help any Americans" Why not? Also, many problems there. 1. I never brought up defense spending 2. Defense spending has been dropping for decades 3. Everyone agrees we need a defense, not so much on if the federal government should manage healthcare "In the richest, most industrialized nation ever—you’re really telling us Pink—that healthcare for all is not possible?" Healthcare for all is not possible anywhere. Resources are limited. This is something you learn day one in any economics course. For example, my econ professor did a thought experiment. Ask random people if driving can ever be too safe. They will say no. In reality, economically, the answer is yes. How? Well, we can make driving very safe by restricting speeds to 15 mph. What is the drawback? Much longer travel times. Now apply that same idea to healthcare. Can we provide healthcare to all? Possibly. But us as a society will have to be very restrictive in controlling people's diet, lifestyle, money, etc. Far leftists have these impossible dreams because they simply don't understand economics.
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@kennethmcneil3478 , how have you debunked my experts?
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@cyberneticbutterfly8506 , coverage does not equal access.
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@dowobeha6875 , great, and most love the healthcare in the US. So what's your point? I know many Canadians who prefer the US system over Canada. But even at that I still rather listen to experts.
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@texkillerson6681 , it is going broke.
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@kennethmcneil3478 , ok, let us use your low standard. I am a US citizen. I am an expert in US healthcare by your standard. I can tell you, as an expert, the US system is without flaws and by far the best system ever. How do I know? Well, I am an expert in US healthcare. How? Because I am a US citizen.
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@kennethmcneil3478 , also, what Canadian sources have you given? I have cited many experts and studies. You have cited only one person so far and not even given anything they said. But again, I am an expert in US healthcare, it is perfect. Trust me, I am an expert based on your standards.
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@masterchief9291 , what movement? How many actual progressives are in Congress? Now consider how many Justice Democrats lost. And the main one, AOC, is considered a joke.
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@masterchief9291 , what support? Again, how many progressives are actually in office? And remember, AOC is one of your many people. She is considered a joke by most.
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Scott , he takes over the DNC? How? The GOP is not divided like the DNC is. The GOP understand that they need to work with Trump, not fight. AOC is a joke.
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@masterchief9291 , she won in a very blue district. Also, I don't ignore AOC as her speaking pushes people to vote republican.
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Maritza Piccarillo , Medicare is losing money and is propped up by the private insurance. Medicare pays 40% less which is why private insurance pays so much and why healthcare is so expensive in this nation. You have Medicare which underpays and many get care in the ER and don't pay.
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Scott , fighting for what?
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@ursamagickmt672 , she is not the future. Outside of her district people laugh at her.
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Ken Hudson , he has always been drawing huge crowds. Just because he has energetic fans does not mean he is popular.
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@AdmiralBison , the economy is doing great right now. As younger people become older they will realize how foolish Bernie's ideas are.
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@Zarastro54 , him having an energetic base does not mean he is popular. Many support a candidate but never donate. They show support in the voting booths. Bernie's fans are energetic, but they are not the majority.
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@jaime8318 , people did not like the impeachment and the impeachment is a reason why Trump won. People are tired of the politicians, especially on the left. The left is dividing our nation. Bernie Sanders is not helping. In fact, he is a major reason why we are divided.
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@thevisitor135 , they are not supported. If they were then we will have them in place already. Also, opinion polls are unreliable. To start, they are vague questions on complex issues being asked to non experts. Next, opinion polls done online or through phone cannot catch the expression of the person being polled. Also, you don't' know the actual dedication the person being polled has. For example, they may support background checks on guns, but when it comes to vote they might not care enough to vote. Overall, on polls, as prof. Andrew Gelman said in a Scientific American article "Finally, the 3 percent margin of error is an understatement because opinions change. On January 3, 2004, the Gallup poll included 410 Democrats, 26 percent of whom supported Howard Dean for president. The margin of error was 5 percent, and so we can be pretty sure that on that date, between 21 percent and 31 percent of Democrats supported Dean. But a lot of them have changed their minds. A poll is a snapshot, not a forecast." But keep pointing to polls if it makes you feel good.
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@jshowa o , SS is running out of money. The issue with private insurance is that we do not have a free market system in healthcare. Most, because of the payroll tax, rely on their employer for a healthcare plan. I rather pay for mine out of pocket and pick my own plan. But the federal government create a situation where people are not given that choice. So thanks to the federal government insurance has become an issue. As for mandated health care coverage, at what cost? Who will pay? Do you think we should force people to buy a product?
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@jennbatch6377 , AOC and Bernie fans are energetic, but they are not the majority. Most people are like me, just want to relax and when it comes to voting we cast our vote. You will see that most will vote for Trump. Just because your side is loud and energetic does not mean you are popular. AOC is a joke. She has no understanding of economics and only appears on shows of people who support her, never questioning her. Sorry, but if AOC represents the future of your party your side is in trouble.
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Jon Hinson , AOC said unemployment is low because people have 2 jobs. She feels that rich people need to "give up their power". Well, to who? And why? She is a joke. She could not make it in real life so she, like Bernie did, is looking to become a career politician.
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@PRIVATE , what movement? The economy and country is improving under Trump and the democratic candidates look like fools on stage. What protection? Bernie will cause a major recession if he became president causing people to not vote democrat for at least a decade. And what does Bernie stand for? He is a career politician that is simply looking to buy your vote.
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@jshowa o , private insurance, as it is set up now, is not the free market due to the payroll tax. Because of the payroll tax a business pays with healthcare insurance as opposed to a higher wage as it is a tax free way to pay employees. Ever thought of why employers pay with healthcare insurance as opposed to a higher wage? Also, healthcare is a product. I just purchased my medication. It is an actual, physical object.
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@lordandmaster14 , AOC is a joke. That is why people still parade her around.
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@Zarastro54 , the Morning Consult poll is what you are referring to. The issue with that poll is that they only polled the people of the Senator's respective state. Just because the people of Vermont like Bernie does not mean others do. Also, if you look at the approval ratings of the senators 9 of the top 10 in highest approval ratings come from states that are small, as in the bottom 10 in population. The top 4 senators are from VT and WY, the two smallest states in the union.
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@thevisitor135 , except when universal healthcare was put up to a vote in Colorado, a left leaning state that voted for Bernie, almost 80% said no.
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@jshowa o , again, due to the payroll tax businesses pay with with healthcare insurance. It is a tax free way to pay employees. So no, we don't have a free market system. In a free market system you can choose your own plan. In the US we can't. Healthcare is both a service and a product. You go for a broken bone you are placed in a cast, a product.
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Ken Hudson , how is it insane?
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@lordandmaster14 , don't mind. As long as it makes the far left look crazy I know less people like her will win.
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@lordandmaster14 , she will win because she is from a very blue district. Not much competition.
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@jshowa o , most people get healthcare through their employer. So your one case does not represent the norm. Most people cannot afford insurance because employers rather pay with healthcare insurance as opposed to a higher wage.
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@Zarastro54 , uh, most feel the economy is doing well. Home ownership is going up. Wages are going up. More high paying jobs are being created.
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@thevisitor135 , the min. wage increase in MO was small. It was raised to $8.60/hr. Not $15/hr that Bernie and his fans pushed for. So it is a poor comparison to compare that to the radical things Bernie is pushing for. You are making excuses on ColoradoCare. I can easily argue that M4A is rushing. Also, you claim that ThinkTanks ruined it. If people are that easily convinced to change on an issue why should we be trusting the polls?
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Ken Hudson , again, they have energetic fans. Does not mean they are popular.
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@thevisitor135 , ok, so how come Colorado have not tried to pass it again? Also, public funds can never be used to abortion. Also, isn't something better than nothing? "Conservative thinktanks "took care" of those still sitting on the fence" Yes, opinions change when more information is given. Doesn't this goes to show how malleable people's minds are? So why trust polls so much? A min. wage increase that is around a dollar is nothing. Also, MO is not a "red state", it is a moderate state that voted for many democrats in the past. McCaskill lost because no one liked her. She would have lost in the previous election if it weren't for Todd Akin's "rape" comment. Plus, you are picking one idea, the min. wage which has been around for decades. Not a strong example.
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@Zarastro54 , he is a career politician. What has he accomplished in his life? Nothing. He is a career politician from the second smallest state in the union.
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@walterlichtenberg3698 , fire department, police department, water and schools are ran and funded locally. I have more control over those programs. I love how the far left points to locally ran programs to justify expanding the federal government. It really shows the ignorant of the left. Please study government before you comment on it.
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@walterlichtenberg3698 , defense is constitutional and a part of the foreign affairs the federal government is responsible for. Also, the military cannot enforce domestic law without consent of the government. Medicare is unconstitutional and is running out of money. The FBI only enforces federal law that involves commerce between states. Please, learn how government functions.
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@thevisitor135 , the ACLU is not a reliable source these days. Also, states should take actions and not rely on the federal government. "As for the conservative think tank part, those who were swayed by their campaigns (Fence-sitters) were mostly uninformed on the issue, and were only fed information from a extremely slanted perspective from those opposed to universal healthcare" So again, why trust opinion polls? Why trust the "will of the people" so much if they are not informed? People say Bernie and his ideas are popular, but now you are saying they are not informed?
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@xEnder515 , Medicare and SS are running out of money. Medicare has a 40% less pay and is subsidized by private insurance.
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@crispyblack8779 , Medicare is losing money. Also, it took Medicare 40 years to finally cover prescription benefits when private insurance was doing it long before that.
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@crispyblack8779 "It’s much harder to take down a universal program, " So even if the program sucks you can't tear it down. That is why so many are opposed to universal systems, they never retract, they expand causing more problems.
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@sharper68 , there is a lot to be scared about with M4A. It has lower payments thus quality and access will be less.
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@Dennzer1 , apparently you never read that study. They never said it will save money.
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@dhackmann3974 "didn´t even know the basic international studies about health care. " What study? "That still hasn´t provided a single studie that shows that a privat system is more succesfull then a public one. " Actually, a ton of studies suggest that the private system does a lot of things better than the private one. In the study entitled "Policy strategies to reduce waits for elective care: a synthesis of international evidence." They write "It is often observed that elective wait times are low in the USA, one of the few countries where the majority of care has been financed by non-universal private insurance." As Prof. Scott Atlas pointed out in his book "In Excellent Health" the US is superior when it comes to access to advanced care and survival rates of advanced illnesses. The issue is that there is no one study but instead a large collection of studies pointing to many things. Why? Because healthcare is very complex. So you say "study" but have yet to provide one. "Please i´m still waiting after presenting to you 3 different peer rewieved studies" What studies have you presented? I did not see them.
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@paulaguenon1660 , those programs are running out of money and are become more expensive as time goes on. In the free market prices always drop and efficiency becomes better.
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@dhackmann3974 , also, there is not a single healthcare ranking that exists in a peer reviewed study.
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@crispyblack8779 , people die due to shortcomings in every healthcare system. What do you have to compare that 45,000 stat to?
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@sharper68 , our quality is number one in the world.
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@crispyblack8779 , a universal system can't be micromanaged which is why universal systems typically cost more than projected.
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@Dennzer1 "People die in the USA because of a lack of a Medicare For all system. That number is ZERO in all other developed, major countries." 100% false. Amenable mortality is an issue every nation faces. If you want to have a conversation you have to know facts first.
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Phantom137 , how am I lying? The guy said no one dies in other developed nations due to lack of access to healthcare. That is 100% false. If you want to progress and make healthcare better in this nation you need to understand the reality. If you can't accept reality you can't progress.
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@trippytraveler6773 , again, amenable mortality is an issue every nation faces. Read the two studies entitled "Using ‘amenable mortality’ as indicator of healthcare effectiveness in international comparisons: results of a validation study" and "Amenable mortality as an indicator of healthcare quality - a literature review." Even the CommonWealth Fund uses amenable mortality. That is the same source the left points to all the time to argue for universal healthcare. They even admit amenable mortality is an issue every nation faces. "they care that M4A will save trillions AND everybody gets covered." It won't save money and coverage does not equal access.
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@Dennzer1 "The USA is the only major country to have dead bodies in its wake due to lack of basic coverage. " Not true. Even leftists sources like the CommonWealth Fund admits that amenable mortality is an issue every nation faces. For example, according to the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare up to 7000 people die a year waiting for "elective" surgery which includes certain forms of heart and neurosurgery.
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@sharper68 , healthcare rankings are arbitrary. Do you even know how that ranking was developed?
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Phantom137 , just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I never heard of cases like that in the US but I am willing to admit it happens. Amenable mortality is an issue every nation faces. You are telling me to get my facts straight when you can't even do so yourself.
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@sharper68 , in terms of quality we are number one. We lead the world in survival rates of advanced care. Our shortcomings do come in our high costs and lack of coverage. But the US does many things very well, but has shortcomings. Same with other nations. Those rankings cherry pick data which is why you can't use them. There is a lot of irony in your comment.
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@sharper68 , you say bankruptcies, I rather be bankrupt than dead. Other nations have lower survival rates in advanced illnesses because they cap how much care you receive. That is where our quality is high. We have higher access to advanced testing and thus higher survival rates. Many factors outside of healthcare influence life expectancy and child mortality. You have to point to broad stats to push your point where I point to specific, healthcare related stats. High access to advanced testing and high survival rates of advanced illnesses is predominately dependent on healthcare. With life expectancy there are factors outside of healthcare. For example, if you remove car accidents and murders the US is number 1 in life expectancy. The US is number 1 in obesity rates which increases the chances of a quicker death. The US, compared to OECD nations, has the highest percent of blacks where blacks have, genetically, a higher chance of heart disease leading to a shorter life. On child mortality obesity, according to a Stanford study, increases the chance of premature birth and thus increases the chance of infant mortality. Now add in the fact that obesity is higher for those in poverty, and pregnancy is higher for those in poverty, especially unwanted pregnancies, you have an outlier that skews the data. Again, you can't just look at raw, vague stats like overall life expectancy and infant mortality. "We are the only first world nation to let citizens die in support of a profit motive." Not true. Other nations let people die because they don't want to pay. That is why people Australia and Canada die waiting for "elective" heart surgery. "Our "shortcomings" mean if you are rich our health care is great. For everyone else getting sick might just bankrupt or kill you. " Not true. The vast majority are fine with their healthcare with no problems. That is why reform is so difficult. You say I am fact free when I have given way more facts that you have.
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@sharper68 ""We lead the world in survival rates of advanced care" Applying that as a measure of our system being "best" is literally cherry picked. " No it is not because that is strongly connected to healthcare. I also never said the US has the best system, we said we do many things well. One is that we have high access to advanced testing where other nations cap it. Thus we have higher survival rates in advanced care. That is important because that is when you need healthcare, for advanced illnesses. You point to overall life expectancy when many factors out side of healthcare influence that. For example, if I were to get hit by a bus and die instantly walking home today that is not because of our healthcare system. But if I have a heart problem, receive care quickly and live a longer life, that is because of our healthcare system.
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@sharper68 , most can afford though. That is why access is so high and that is why healthcare reform is so challenging. And yes, other nations cap how much care they offer. I agree, many things influence infant mortality. Many things outside of healthcare. Diet, lifestyle, the woman's overall health, etc. You are looking at something that is strongly influenced by factors beyond healthcare. When I look at survival rates of advanced illnesses I am looking at something that is strongly influenced by healthcare. ""Your assertion about being dead would indicate you think we have better survival rates on most medical metrics" We do have better survival rates. "The fact is our system is far more likely to kill you simply because you are can not afford the available care." Other systems make you wait a long time to where you are worse off physically, emotionally and financially, or dead. In the paper entitled "A messy reality: an analysis of New Zealand's elective surgery scoring system via media sources, 2000–2006" The write "Research has also considered the impact of waiting on patients, with findings that those awaiting necessary treatments often face considerable costs. These may be financial if the ability to work is affected and if there is a need to pay for additional care and therapeutics while awaiting treatment. Costs for the health system may arise if patients are not treated in a timely manner and develop more serious conditions or co-morbidities as a consequence of waiting. There may also be quality-of-life impacts, as well as impacts on family or caregivers" In the paper entitled "Policy strategies to reduce waits for elective care: a synthesis of international evidence." They write "t is often observed that elective wait times are low in the USA, one of the few countries where the majority of care has been financed by non-universal private insurance." So you keep pointing to infant mortality and life expectancy, and then claim our survival rates are low even though the data suggests otherwise. "You are misrepresenting the other systems wait times. Canada and Australia for example have very comparable wait times to us on critical care (life threatening) issues. Elective issues like knee surgeries and non critical MRI's you are forced wait longer for" Actually that is not true at all. It is difficult to define "critical" care in many cases. That is why, as pointed out in that New Zealand study, many end up worse off. Also, "elective" care is not just knee surgery. The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare has certain forms of heart and neurosurgery listed as "elective" where up to 7000 people die a year waiting for "elective" surgery. In Canada people have died waiting for "elective" heart surgery. Read the studies entilted "True versus reported waiting times for valvular aortic stenosis surgery" Can J Cardiol. "Analysis of deaths while waiting for cardiac surgery among 29,293 consecutive patients in Ontario, Canada" Heart So once again you are factually incorrect.
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@sharper68 "That your asserted survival rate stat is "strongly connected with health care" does not mean it is the only metric we should use and that would appear to be what you are doing." I agree, but organizations with a special interest like the WHO don't take those into account. Also, the WHO ranking is nearly 2 decades old and was criticized so heavily that they did not develop another ranking again. But you blindly follow it as it supports your firmly held, religious like belief. You gave me two vague stats and an arbitrary ranking by a special interest group. I gave you studies showing how factually wrong you are. You claimed that cases like knee surgery were "elective" when I pointed out how certain forms of heart surgery are elective and people have died waiting for them. And how longer wait times lead to negative outcomes. But whatever, cite your two vague stats and an arbitrary ranking where you don't even know the methods in how it was created.
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@sharper68 , very few run out of insurance money. That is why healthcare reform is so difficult. Single payer has more limitations. M4A pays less than 40%. With that healthcare providers simply won't offer care. That is why the US offers more advanced testing compared to other nations. We offer more CT scans and MRIs per capita. Sorry facts don't sit well with you. The WHO's ranking was criticized so much that they have not developed another ranking in nearly 2 decades.
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@sharper68 i gave you facts and you ignored them
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Polls are irrelevant at this point. Very few are even considering the election at this time. So the only people who are answering the polls are democrats and very passionate supporters of people like Bernie. Thus it will skew the results in favor towards him. Also, no attack ad and no debates in the general election has occurred yet.
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@MrShiggitty , the problem with the "wealth tax" is that most wealth is not liquidated. You will be taxing money that does not exist. This is why other nations who tried the wealth tax stopped it.
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@jypsywith_a_jae7575 , it goes way beyond that. It might be tied into shares. Liquidating shared that quickly will change the value of them where investors won't invest. That is the other issue of wealth, it can vary in value. Liquidating it isn't that easy if there is no buyer.
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@miamidolphinsfan , he will debate Bernie.
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FDR did cause a depression.
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@gileshabibula7006 , name be another time it took 10 years to recover from a recession. And name the president during that time.
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