Comments by "Ungoogleable o_O" (@oO_ox_O) on "Female Genital Mutilation FINALLY Banned In Nigeria" video.

  1. Knight Chime I think a good argument can be made when male circumcision were banned then the idea of also banning all forms of FGM was easier to sell.
    3
  2. ***** Female circumcision reduces HIV, does it make it any less of a mutilation?
    2
  3. luulay jxmx What forms are you thinking of? It's not as if there was only one of each.
    2
  4. Andi Amador > Male circumcision does not prevent the male from being able to enjoy sex. For females, the damage can result in horrors up to additional mutilation for every instance of sex they are ever forced to engage in in their whole lives. What types are you comparing? Probably not hood pricking and penile subincision, right?
    2
  5. Knight Chime I think you are trying to steer away the conversation from anything that might expose your ethnocentrism. I would argue you are only for (western-style) male circumcision and against any alteration of girl's genitals because of your culture; in your culture former is the norm while latter is shunned upon. I am doubting you to be principled on this, can you prove me wrong? BTW > steer the conversation away from any possible women's issue. A trans activist might now also chime in that having a penis isn't necessary a man thing.
    2
  6. jack newman You want to see studies showing that it reduces HIV contraction rates?
    1
  7. MexicantGame I was talking about FGM studies. ;)  Showing make similar arguments as commonly used for male cutting now for female cutting as well. Watch and witness people suddenly changing the types of arguments they use.
    1
  8. CN azu If we talk about hood removals (or more general "excess" skin removals) in both cases it certainly can be compared, don't you think?
    1
  9. hardcorefakes12 I can totally see how a cut woman in Africa would say exactly the same.
    1
  10. Simon Željko > It's also true that there are no medical reasons for FGM while sometimes circumcision is a necessary medical procedure Sure there can also be medical reasons for FGM, i.e. certain skin diseases (lichen something). 
    1
  11. Knight Chime I just told you how those topics are connected. People could say you aren't consistent if you are against any form of FGM while approving of altering the genitals of male minors. How would you respond to this?
    1
  12. Knight Chime Women with penises might have come in contact with penis alternation procedures (circumcision). And funny how you only commented on marginalia from my post, can't tackle the rest? ;) I was right about the ethnocentrism, wasn't I? Deep down you are only against FGM because you think of it as a tradition of the "savages". Again, feel free to prove me wrong, show me how consistent and principled you are and tell me why a hoodectomy should be considered worse than western-style male circumcision.
    1
  13. Knight Chime > If FGM was limited to "hoodectomy" no one would give a fuck about it, but it isn't limited to that. And male circumcision procedures might include penile subincision, so? It's not the reason why people give a fuck about it, removing the hood alone is. And FYI hoodectomy is banned in North America. > Again, women with penises did not experience FGM. It was to counter your claim that people want to dismiss issues of women under all circumstances. > The topic is still FGM. And all forms of FGM, including "just" hoodectomy. I told you how this is perfectly related to western male circumcision.
    1
  14. Knight Chime > that's not English Hoodectomy is FGM (the topic) and pretty comparable to male circumcision, certainly not worse. Got it now? > An exception to the rule does not nullify the rule Nullify what rule? > Nope, under all FGMs. That's not English.
    1
  15. Knight Chime Wait, so you don't consider a hoodectomy procedure to be a mutilation (even if it is categorized as FGM)? Or you do but only because it might include more…, but the same applies to male circumcision. Now before you start any numbers game, hood pricking is the most prevalent method, thanks to e.g. Indonesia. > The rule is that doesn't happen. Again, not English. If you want to tell me that penile sub incision is relatively rare (and therefore an "exception") then only thanks to the Australians not being nice to the Aborigines. But I don't know how it helps us in any way when trying to figure out where to draw the line on what is OK and what isn't. Assessments and comparisons of procedures should be independent from how common they are.
    1
  16. Knight Chime  > FGM isn't a preventative measure Would you say that all forms of male circumsision are? > this cannot be said of FGM What would you say if I showed you a study or two indicating reduced HIV infection rates?
    1
  17. Knight Chime > Why are you carrying on with this? Because you are still weaselling out of giving me an answer. Back to the hoodectomony stuff, here an image showing the most common procedure amount the Muslim population in Maylaysia and Signapor:http://poskod.sg/Content/AppFiles/images/images/phenomena/aPOSKOD_drawings_vagina_700x365.jpg You still think this is OK?
    1
  18. Knight Chime Cutting off limbs is also recognised medical practice. Only that it's rarely done proactively.
    1
  19. Knight Chime > You're losing IQ points by the second & you were already in the single digits. Wow, you really showed me. You should go help Donald Trump with his Twitter. :P > Yes, when a fucking doctor amputates a limb it is a medically recognised practice. Yet it fits the definition of a mutilation (from WP: "act of physical injury that degrades the appearance or function of any living body").
    1
  20. sydandtaytum It's better when it's done early is what you are saying? The vagina is on the inside. What's penile subincision?
    1