Comments by "Django" (@django3422) on "Asking Tommy Robinson fans how to save Britain" video.

  1. It's still nonsense either way. UK hasn't moved away from capitalism at all.
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  2. When it comes to the matter of free speech, the views all boil down to "I want to be able to say what I want and I don't want others to be able to say what they want or be offended by what I say".
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  3. He's got the vague beginnings of a point, but what are British values? That's so often the part that gets left unsaid. When it does get said, it's very clear that they're just expressing their personal values.
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  4.  @markwelch3564  gasp The greediest people in our society... were lying!
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  5.  @Jack-fs2im  Britain had pagan roots long before Christianity reached these shores. The pomp and ceremony of a royal coronation hardly informs the lives of everyday citizens. Cromwell didn't create the world's first elected parliament, he was also a mass murdering monster with no regard for human rights in the slightest. Which brings us to the fact that the proliferation in human rights over the last century actually coincides with the rise of secularism.
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  6.  @stewie7338  For one thing, they aren't British. They came out of the age of enlightenment which took place all across Europe. Then there's the values themselves; liberty, progress, tolerance, fraternity, constitutional government and the separation of church and state. So when you've got conservative-minded people who want to see people as "other" and deny them liberty while advocating for a return to Christian values... Yeah, that's really not adding up.
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  7.  @stewie7338  But they aren't "British" values, they're just values that humans aspire to. Hence why they're far from exclusive to Britain. As for the "what people", this is where I have to ask if you've actually watched the video.
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  8. The guys from Manchester Airport are on bail awaiting their court appearance. Stop saying "we" when you don't speak for all of us.
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  9. ​ @BruceUnfiltered Or the one guy who refused to sign a release form.
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  10.  @Jack-fs2im  That's painfully untrue on every count.
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  11.  @stewie7338  Did you bother to check them yourself, first? You really should have...
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  12. "Far-left liberals"? Chap, it's one or the other.
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  13. ​ @laganas2008 How about when Robinson tweeted a young lass, saying that he thought she was "pretty fit for a Muslim". The girl in question was 15. Yeah.
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  14.  @laganas2008  And religion doesn't affect appearance, yet Robinson used it as a qualifier to judge her appearance. So what, do you think, did he actually meant when he said "Muslim"? Interesting how you ignored the part where he's being a nonce...
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  15.  @CapnChapster  That's why you're all just repeating the same lines, is it? If that's free-thinking, you might have a case of false advertisement
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  16.  @spinynorman8217  Only if you've never seen a lion.
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  17.  @stewie7338  No, dead wrong. I think the concept of "British values" is deeply flawed as its almost wholly subjective. That's the point I'm getting at by asking people to explain what they think British values are. You, for example, cited values formalised by European thinkers but ultimately representative of what the vast majority of people want in their lives, regardless of where they're from. So calling them "British values" is either short-sighted or just plain arrogant. And I pointed out that there are people in this very video expressing conservative Christian values that are contrary to what you're claiming.
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  18. ​ @mikeg2939 It does rather expose the lie of his assumed identity.
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  19. ​ @onedayagogo Source; "Trust me, bro".
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  20.  @onedayagogo  You're not trustworthy.
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  21.  @onedayagogo  You doing that thing where you play dumb and pretend not to know what you said?
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  22.  @onedayagogo  My mistake, maybe you aren't playing.
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  23. Empty claims.
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  24. You should elect better spokespeople.
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  25. Maybe you're always criticised because you say loony things like this. And most people don't criticise Islam because they know nothing about it.
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  26.  @TheEncourager-p2e  See what? The slow dissolution of your movement as it gets revealed that your god isn't coming to help and none of the earthly figures you've put faith in actually have any idea of how to solve any of the real problems we're facing. Yeah, that sounds about right.
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  27. Okay, you have all those things. Now what?
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  28. Chap, Reading Festival has a higher death toll than Notting Hill. What kind of point are you trying to make?
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  29.  @laganas2008  No, I can. What I'm doing is called "pre-empting". I know that more people died at the most recent Notting Hill Carnival and I want to know what point you're trying to make.
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  30.  @laganas2008  Really? Notting Hill just the first event that came to mind? I don't believe you. The whole "just asking questions" shtick is overused and very transparent.
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  31. "The guy"? Only one person in attendance, was it?
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  32. You really prove his point when you claim that the Palestine marches support terrorist groups.
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  33. That's because your question is strangely worded, unclear, appears loaded and because you seem like a loon. Everyone is giving you a wide berth.
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  34.  @Muhammad_Ali-42  Nah, I'm still not entirely clear what it is you're after. Just wanted to point out that it's not because no-one can answer, it's because people don't want to engage with you.
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  35. ​ @clairee4939 Like police do.
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  36.  @clairee4939  What's wrong, lose your ChatGPT login?
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  37. I'm listening but I'm waiting for them to say something that actually adds up or shows any degree of insight.
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  38. ​ @DaveyCart-c1d Whats funny is that the Christian right-wing that are pushing anti-Muslim sentiment also stand with folks who want to lower the age of consent. And let's not get started on the Catholic Church...
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  39. Where they telling him to do that because he was brown or because of some other reason unrelated to his ethnicity?
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  40. It's really funny to me when deluded conspiracists start arguing over whose conspiracy is real...
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  41. ​ @alanmckay7040 They just told you why they hate him. Why are you ignoring that to put your own words in their mouth?
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  42. But you don't see it. You just get told it. Why do you believe it?
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  43. ​ @Freddie66666 The person you're engaging with is a disingenuous contrarian who relies on anecdotal "evidence", that is when they're not using ChatGPT to write their comments for them. Don't waste your time on them.
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  44. @clairee4939  Why would you need to "inhabit the head of a lefty" to defend your right-wing views? You needed ChatGPT because you're not very bright.
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  45. Can you prove that what he said was libel?
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  46.  @RickyRosa-n3e  You're really not making sense.
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  47. Really proved his point there. Couldn't have done better if you tried.
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  48. ​ @clairee4939 I can see why you need to get AI bots to write your arguments. Without them, you're painfully basic.
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  49.  @clairee4939  Okay, now play that one back in your head till you realise you effectively doubled down on what I said. Seriously, you are so bad at this...
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  50. @clairee4939  And you're a liar who can't actually form or defend their own arguments. I've actually also seen you be very quick to turn to personal insults against people so pot, kettle...
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  51. How many were there and what's your source?
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  52.  @mprelectrical  Where's the drone footage?
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  53.  @RandomnessTube.  Point is that Christianity ain't British. It was imported here from the middle east.
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  54. You were snoozing during the whole Brexit debacle then?
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  55. And the Forde report exposed how cynically it had been engineered.
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  56. My town has Christmas lights every year, chap. Add that to the incredible vagueness of your other claims and it doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about.
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  57.  @laganas2008  Could he maybe instead have been referring to her ethnicity? Perhaps? Since that's the only thing that could actually make that statement make sense? There's also the whole "Asianish" thing and his confusion of the Taj Mahal as a mosque, evidencing that he doesn't bother seeing a distinction between cultures.
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  58.  @laganas2008  So. You've had some examples now.
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  59. ​ @TheEncourager-p2e The mental gymnastics of religious delusion...
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  60. ​ @Y2Kev5 In this context, "majority" and "greater number" mean the same thing...
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  61.  @clairee4939  Not in this context. Ask your AI tool to explain it to you.
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  62. Because the general British public, by definition, weren't there.
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  63. Often because those responsible for the inequality try to find an easy scapegoat.
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  64. Inaccurate claims, really. An "Islamic takeover" that isn't happening, "police bias" that can't be demonstrated, "losing freedom of speech" while being offered a microphone... They're deluded.
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  65. ​ @andrewbullman5206 This message is brought to you by Tommy's PR team.
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  66.  @andrewbullman5206  Yeah, sure. I can tell you why it's disappeared, the YouTube algorithm has filitered it out. Because it reads like an automated spam message. If you switch the filter to "newest" you'll see that your comment is still there.
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  67.  @andrewbullman5206  No, it's not. I switched comments to newest and I can see your "massive" response. You're just being over-dramatic.
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  68. This "silent majority" line really is quite funny, since you could functionally replace "silent" with "invisible" or maybe even "imaginary".
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  69. ​ @CapnChapster  But don't worry about addressing the blatant lie you told.
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  70. Hang about, you're insinuating that what happened in Rotherham is happening elsewhere. Have you got any evidence of that? You also imply that crimes like these are committed by a particular ethnic group. Ignoring the fact that the same crimes have been committed by British born folks?
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  71. Because they have ears?
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  72. Yeah, that's why the men are currently on bail awaiting their trial. Took literally seconds to find that out.
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  73. England ain't a Christian country. Been secular a long time. And why do you think you have the right to define "our way of life" and then suggest a kind of cleansing to enforce it? That is LITERALLY fascist ideology.
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  74. Two different things. The UN document is talking about the economic problems faced when the ratio of pensioners to workers becomes unbalanced. The "great replacement" is a white supremacist conspiracy theory that the terrible "They" are trying to breed white people out of existence.
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  75. No, you don't. That's a daft thing to say.
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  76.  @scottclarke1350  Such as?
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  77.  @Aeiou-de6ft  What unfortunate views have I put forward then? And I'd argue that it is important to actually pin down what it is that people think they're prohibited from saying. Otherwise it's a very empty claim.
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  78. @chrisf9377  Then give some examples and let's look at the context. Do note, however, that the claim being challenged is that of people being arrested. Harry Miller wasn't arrested, nor did the police turn up at his home. So... accurate claims only, please.
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  79. It was organised by him and the headline billing was the screening of his film. I think you're only fooling yourself.
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  80. ​ @pabblowlawabblowbristol9911 Who has a spare room?
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  81. How will Starmer destroy this country?
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  82. What, the lady who thinks she's having her freedom of speech taken away while being offered a microphone to say whatever she feels? She might be well-spoken but she's talking rubbish.
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  83.  @Jack-fs2im  And what do you think that has to do with British values?
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  84.  @Jack-fs2im  That really doesn't change anything.
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  85.  @Jack-fs2im  Only 18million viewers from within the UK, though, which is less than a third of our population. Once you factor in people watching solely for the novelty before going back to their lives... its not really something to brag about. Oh, but the floods of tourists... who aren't British so their interest in pageantry really doesn't reflect on the relevance of the monarchy in Britain or whether Britain is a Christian country. I'd also point out that Christianity and human rights abuses go hand-in-hand whilst again reminding you that human rights only started gaining serious traction once we began adopting secularism. The more you go on about knowing little and listening only to one's own opinion, the more it seems like you're projecting.
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  86.  @stewie7338  I'm not being dismissive of the enlightenment, I'm being dismissive of your claims. And yes, what values are they talking of? That's the point. Takes you a while to catch on, doesn't it.
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  87.  @Jack-fs2im  No, that's not true. There's some recent famous examples but it's certainly not an absolute.
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  88. ​ @1234Cheesus It's funny how you cite an inaccurate figure and then cry semantics when you get called out.
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  89. Remind me again who kicked off and rioted over lies spread on social media?
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  90.  @Cliff163  That's not accurate at all, is it. We know who was kicking off and we know who many of them supported. Don't play daft.
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  91.  @Cliff163  Last time the left rioted it was over civil rights. Last time the right rioted it was over rumours and xenophobia. If you think that's the same, you're an idiot.
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  92. Why? Explain it.
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  93. You've got some weird victimisation fantasies.
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  94. "True British people" being what? People who think like you?
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  95.  @nancyreid2416  Then explain what you think qualifies someone as "true British".
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  96. Means you need to ask yourself WHY you're a socialist. Is it because you want the best for everyone or just for you and yours?
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  97. If the boot fits...
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  98.  @HeritageRage-w1e  More than you'd understand. Don't need to watch him marking his own homework to get the measure of him.
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  99.  @HeritageRage-w1e  And that changes nothing.
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  100. ​ @paul23175 It's not that people can't see the decline, they just dispute the cause.
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  101. Well behaved protest doesn't do much, actually. Its easy to ignore well behaved protestors who do as they're told. It's interesting that you obviously feel capable of deciding what a British patriot is but then don't want UKIP having a voice. You're getting closer to realising what an empty label "patriot" is.
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  102.  @v3numgough465  Ah, Ghandi and MLK. Two unassailable arguments. Because MLK wasn't assassinated and race relations in the US are now perfect. You might wanna look at what happened NEXT in Indian history as well.
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  103. The most heinous crimes? Oh, my sweet summer child...
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  104. Like the Vikings and Normans? What, like basically every single other white Brit?
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