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1.The Xia is so far back I didn't feel the need the mention them. They're's also not a lot of archaeological material for them and a lot of the stuff is wrapped up in Chinese nationalism. The Shang seemed more like a stable point I could agree on. If I picked the Xia as a starting point that would get even more flack IMO.
2.I don't remember ever saying the Shang created Chinese religion.
3.I've read like 5 academic books that have said the Zhou were Turkic, or since this was so long ago, their closest relatives today would be Turkic people.
4.I never said the Zhou did create China's feudal system, merely that the duke of Zhou divided China between this supporters, which he did, thus resulting over hundreds of years in China's disunity.
5.I use religion loosely hear as I do across my whole channel, where I often define Communism as a religion. Also, if you look at lists of world religions, Confucianism normally gets on the list by providing many similar roles. Also, I would argue that Confuciniasm in its original form was more religious, being linked to beliefs in heaven and the spirit world. Source:Houston Smith the World's religions.
6.Accurate, Was simplifying.
7.Accurate. Was simplifying.
8.Accurate. However, China still did not adopt a giant theocratic structure or construct extremely abstract philosophies, which is the norm for the rest of the world.
9.I talk about the 3 wine tasters in this video. Also, a single short example does not deviate from 4,000 years of precedent enough to warrant description.
10.I never said Buddhism did sell itself among peasant. I said it's predominant demographics were outside groups like barbarians, merchants and women. However, since China was over 90% peasant at the time, any successful religion had to appeal to them.
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It's kind of ridiculous that we are arguing over this considering the butterfly effect is only theory and hasn't ever been proven, let alone it's extent. I'm of the school that in Pre-Industrial times, if a region hasn't been seriously affected, you can assume the same events would happen. People forget that until recently, people only rarely bred outside of their home region. Napoleon, as someone born in Italy only 70 years after the start of this timeline, and considering the region that has been really changed that is the closest is Poland, I judged to be fine. I think saying one cannot have any events from our timeline still happen due to the butterfly effect is kind of like Medieval Theologians, touting unproven dogmas that held back development, simply due to their extremity. One side effect of the butterfly effect that people really do ignore, is that empires naturally wear and tear. I'm tired of seeing timelines where the same Roman Empire run by a Caesar is ruling half the world in 2000 or where the Mongol Empire still exists today, even though Gunpowder would have made that impossible.
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Geography is in a lot of ways overrated as factor. Every region has advantages and disadvantages. For example, Russia and Brazil both have excellent geography in many ways but still failed while Norway and South Korea have terrible geography and are still rich. In the countries that succeed, good government is able to play up geographic strengths and lessen weaknesses.
Take the US.The US is geographically blessed in many ways, but also has failings. The vast unpopulated division between the Mississippi valley the West Coast, huge climactic diversity that tears it apart, inadequate water supply in the west, massive diseases in the South-East, a lack of good iron supply outside Minnesota, no good construction materials in the Eastern section, however, the US was able, through effort, to negate its geographic disadvantages and play up its advantages well.
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China's ratio of conquests isn't very good. With its massive population China should do much better but they've been conquered by the Mongols, Manchus, Khitans, Jurchens, Huns, Proto-Zhou and partially by the Japanese and Tibetans. If you threw a dart at Chinese history there's a two-thirds chance that the Dynasty in charge will be of foreign blood. The North of China is relatively easy to conquer while the malarial south isn't. My reading of Chinese history has suggested the north is the part that's good at fighting, but it's on a flat plain fighting against OP horse nomads, while the south is just geographically lucky.
Meanwhile the Iberian nations' were steamrolled on by everyone until the Reconquista, which was honestly pretty impressive. However, during the Middle Ages, none of its neighbors were united and powerful enough to threaten it. Then they discovered an insane amount of gold that gave them a sugar rush that then crushed their economies. Then they were too poor to attempt to conquer. Or in summary:
Successful conquests: Celts, Carthage, Rome, Vandals, Visigoths, Arabs (they took over everything worthwhile),
Failed conquests: Arabs in the far north, Almoravids, French in 1645 (France was in civil war), France in 1807(Britain bailed them out).
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