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Comments by "zjeee" (@zjeee) on "Why does SWEDEN NO LONGER WANT IMMIGRANTS? - VisualPolitik EN" video.
IF you are not a Swedish citizen and you don't have a taxable income then you shouldn't be allowed access to welfare at all.
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They are not lucky they are just smart in picking the ones that will benefit their society while Sweden had an open door policy letting everyone in.
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As a Swede going through the school system in the 90s there were problems even back then. I remember the Turks and Kurdish groups of students constantly fighting and I also remember how the Muslim groups would harass the few Jewish students we had. In College I clearly remember the Muslim students walking out of a biology class about Darwin's evolution theory and refusing to take any biology examinations. I also remember them starting a huge brawl when they lost a football game and the school had to call the police. I am not surprised at all that this has happened when the government decided to take in even more immigrants from these cultures when we already had problems with the ones we had.
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I'd say it's more about the level of education and what kind of people immigrate. The earlier waves caused little problem and all Iranians with good education had no problems to assimilate but when you take in people without even high school education then yeah you are going to have a problem.
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@aghileshemdani3144 It is, Israel is a nation of immigrants from many different nations and backgrounds. They have a much higher GDP and a much more advanced society than the countries surrounding it.
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Yes that sounds pretty normal that they would prioritize EU citizens, I went to China to work myself and foreigners are not allowed to have any job that a Chinese citizen can perform. Even though it was a real painful and time consuming experience to try get a work-permit I feel this is just a way for the nation to prioritize their own citizens first and I cannot really say they are wrong even though I was myself over-qualified compared to the native Chinese citizens that got the job.
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Yeah pretty much or take in people with similar values. For example these days we have a lot of Ukrainians coming in and these guys make little to no problems at all.
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yes you can't have both without increasing your tax base. You can't just expand the number of people on social welfare without adding to your tax base to compensate.
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Controversial opinion according to politicians and major media conglomerates but shared by many ordinary people.
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@TheJoaninhaMendes I think we all see what we want to see, maybe for you you see minorities in low skilled jobs and instantly draw the conclusion they are there based on their ethnicity or color of their skin while someone else would not draw that conclusion before seeing their educational background and degrees to see if perhaps that was the reason why they ended up with a low skilled job. I am white, native of a European country and I started out working in a low skilled job while I was studying at university and yeah most of my co-workers were non-white. Eventually I finished my degree and got a better job while most of them are still there. They are good people but a lot of them didn't have any education after high school so that would be the number one reason why they are stuck in a low skilled job not the colour of their skin. Most of them were hardworking family men and women providing for their families and making sure their kids went to universities to have better opportunities in life. I think almost all of them realized it was their lacking educational background that was the problem. As for your case I cannot say but if you get into a field or education with a very limited and narrow selection of available jobs then I am sure things like that can happen more often than not.
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Not really the problems only exist mainly with a religious group in particular. Sweden has plenty of people from Asia and Christian immigrants fleeing the middle East. Very little problems with these groups of people.
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Not really immigrants in Sweden have a lot more benefits than they would have anywhere else in the world. It's been ideology driven, open borders have been associated with the left of the political spectrum for a very long time and things will change very drastically now that the Swedish Democrats are increasingly getting bigger and all other parties have started to implement their policies as their own.
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Yep I am a Swedish citizen living in another country. Over here they deport you as soon as you commit a crime, even minor ones. I feel like this is just normal in the rest of the world I cannot for the life of me understand how hard it is for our criminal justice system to deport rapists and murderers.
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nobody asked them to give up their religion and culture just accept and abide by the laws. Instead they bring their conflicts with them, attack Jews and synagogues beat their wives and marry off their 11 year old daughters. If all you do is pray to a different god then that's no problem but when you start breaking the law then yes we do have a problem.
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I think the problem is the combination of a liberal society with a strong safety net and massive influx of immigrants that won't become productive taxpaying citizen for at least 5-10 years because they lack education and are unskilled. There is no way to support an ever increasing population in need of social welfare when your tax base is not increasing at the same level. You can't have both at the same time you have to pick one. Anyway as someone pointed out politically Sweden has taken a sharp turn to the right as pretty much all parties except one has realized it's not sustainable to continue with the leftist policies of open borders and still keep a high level of social welfare for your population when your tax base is not increasing. The political landscape is turning more conservative as a reaction to the problems caused by the mass immigrations.
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the US has literally NOTHING to do with this issue. What has America got to do with the Swedish government letting in Muslim immigrants from the middle east?
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They are just doing what's best for their country and their native population. There are more than 200 countries in this world for migrants to go to.
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@houseplant1016 Err How about you just check out the Asian minorities? Asian Americans and Asian Canadians both earn on average more than the Native white American and Canadian populations. They are also overrepresented in high end Universities and receive higher grades than their native American and Canadian counter parts. Also Jewish communities in most countries are overrepresented in terms of income compared to the native population. Asian minorities and immigrants are well respected all over the world, they make little noise and trouble, their kids excel in education and they earn well above average.
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Yep it's a problem of attitude and etiquette. I live in China and I am perfectly aware and accept the fact that if I commit any crime here, no matter how big or small I will get deported. Back home in Sweden people cry racism when the Government wants to deport rapists...
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Yes, you can chose where to live and most Swedes are moving out of the Suburbs that has become "no-go zones" for the police. So the problems are getting even worse as native Swedes move to neighbourhoods with other native Swedes and all immigrants get crammed into the same area.
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It would be great if these people could work though.
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Of course not. Sweden has had plenty of European immigrants for a very long time and they have posed very little problems.
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@SaadBinAlamgir3345 That's the problem Muslims will think anyone non muslim is an "infidel" or "pagan". That's precisely the reason why it's so hard for them to co-exist with other cultures and people because to them anyone that is not a muslim is an infidel.
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@j.langer5949 You say that yet you all flock to the west in search for a better life. How about you fix your mess in your own countries so people don't feel the need to come leave in the first place?
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You can go to the Swedish police website and get their yearly "BRÅ" statistical reports. The foreign born population totally crushes it when you see what % of the population they constitute compared to what % of crimes they commit. I seriously doubt there are any reports trying to link Social welfare and crime though. That would be very hard to prove such links existed even if they did.
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I think you are wrong to base your opinion of Sweden on your Danish experience. Denmark is seen as a success example by the rest of Scandinavia when it comes to immigration and fighting gang related violence. Swedish politicians have long called the Danish immigrations policies racist as they have been very restrictive. Now they are taking after Denmark when it comes to fighting gang violence and restricting immigration. Because Sweden has massive problems and even the police has designated areas as "no-go" zones. You cannot even drive an ambulance or fire truck into certain areas without police escort. It is a major concern for us Swedes, you don't have to be a "conservative racist" to realize why it's a problem to take in so many immigrants with no education that have to spend 5 years + before they become productive tax payers. The people on social welfare increases at a massive rate while the tax base doesn't grow to compensate. It's not sustainable. Personally I see the anti-immigration parties and figures such as Rasmus Paludan as a reaction to the immigration and the consequences of it. Without the immigration wave and the consequences it has had on the nation as a whole you would not see figures such as Paludan or parties such as the Swedish Democrats reaching 20% support. For me myself I am a Swede that moved to China 7 years ago. Here immigration is super strict and if you commit a crime, any crime no matter how big or small you can be denied Visa at any time and get deported. Also if you cannot prove that you can support yourself (when applying for a work permit or green card you have to prove an income much higher than the native population) you can forget about it. Obviously these are extreme requirements but sometimes I just get confused when I see migrants in my home country complaining about discrimination when they get caught having entered the country illegally in the first place or doesn't have an income and are still allowed to stay on welfare. For me if I would ever get caught doing something like that in China I would be thrown out with my head first. Migrants in Sweden are probably amongst the most luckiest migrants in the world as they have very few requirements from the government to be allowed to stay compared to the rest of the world. Yet they are very quick to cry racism and discrimination as soon as anyone points out they have to try and integrate.
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