Comments by "zjeee" (@zjeee) on "Swedish Lawmaker Among Those Turkey Targeted in Exchange for Backing Sweden's NATO Bid" video.

  1. That was Komala, not PKK it's a group fighting for Kurdish independence in Iran. I guess for Turks all Kurds resisting the government are the same though.
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  2. That's not how terrorist designations work, just because one country claims a group are terrorists doesn't mean everyone does. Turkey supports Hamas, the muslim brotherhood and Al-nusra. These are organizations that many nations designate as terrorist organizations. Turkey doesn't agree on this point as some of these organizations align with Turkish interests. That's how the world works, the US and EU supported Kurdish resistance groups in Syria and Iraq to fight ISIS and Assad so they aligned with Western interests. This is just basic politics. Just like you said every nation has their own interests to take care of and if Turkey's choice is to not let Sweden and Finland in citing their national interest then so be it it's their right. But let's not pretend that Turkish positions are the standard and not tainted by Turkish political interests. Turkey does support organisations that many nations consider terrorists because they suit Turkey's interest. The west does the same.
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  3.  Dos louqes  If you are a Swede then you should know the laws, there is no way to extradite her unless she did something that would be considered illegal in Sweden. You cannot just extradite people because some dictator says "Trust me br0".
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  4.  @kocahmet1  Not really, everything is in place already. Finland and Sweden have been honorary NATO members for a long time and conduct training with them. They have already received security guarantees from the UK and the US if Russia attacks so I guess even if they are not let into NATO there is nothing to stop NATO members to make security guarantees and co-operate with them even though they are not official members.
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  5. It's not personal it's just Erdogan playing bazaar again. He has an election coming up and he needs money to build another palace soon ^_^.
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  6. I don't agree with all your points but I do agree it should not be used as a bargaining chip. Turkey should just say yes or no, now they are demanding lawmakers to be handed over and laws to be changed. If you don't want them in just say No and be done with it it's a military alliance not a bazaar lol.
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  7.  @samboreas3812  Turkey Gondor? A bunch of white guys with blue eyes? Yeah right LOL
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  8. It's political Erdogan is not doing that well and there is an election coming up. He needs this for political points and while it makes little sense in a foreign relations perspective he is more concern about his domestic situation. He knows this is an issue the Turkish people can relate to and he is using it to play tough to get support for his re-election. Once he is re-elected then he can make a compromise and let them in.
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  9.  @bigboyrambo2009  I am just trying to explain to you how the political process works in Sweden when you run for office. If you don't understand basic democracy 101 then that's your problem, not mine. I don't particularly like her as she is a communist but that is irrelevant to how the political system works. Different political opinions are allowed, if you have trouble grasping that then I am just going to assume you are not from a democratic country.
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  10. ​ @bigboyrambo2009  So basically you think democracy is all about race? It's a political system dude. You really have no idea do you? Some people make everything about race, race has nothing to do with it.
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  11. Thanks, I prefer to still use Turkey.
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  12. You don't have to believe everything your government says you know.
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  13. ​ @sweaspurdoddd5466  I don't like her but If you follow the legal definition she is still Swedish no matter if you like her or not.
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  14. Yep they think everything is a bazaar.
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  15. You can find people of every single ideology in a single nation. That doesn't mean the population at large shares every single individual view.
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  16.  @abadairshi  Why would we cry about that? If Mr. Erdogan can back up his claims and prove that she is a current member of PKK and broke Swedish laws then she can be prosecuted. So far there is nothing to indicate she has broken any Swedish laws. Our government system is not like yours, we cannot throw people into jail just because the leader doesn't like them. It's a judicial decision and our courts are not tools for our politicians to advance their personal agendas. Even if our politicians didn't like her (she's not very popular in Sweden) they cannot do anything about it unless it can be proven she has broken any laws, she's an elected official.
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  17. Then why is Erdogan asking the US to sell him their Jet planes in exchange for letting Sweden in. I thought this was all about terrorists?
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  18.  @abadairshi  They have already refused Erdogan's demands in public yet Turkey hasn't exercised their veto yet so Erdogan is still playing Bazaar politics.
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  19. What's a "terörist"?
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  20.  @krkrbbr  Erdogan will keep this up to gather support until after he is re-elected then he can safely make a compromise.
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  21. I am not sure how your country works but in Sweden you are allowed to run for office if you are a Swedish citizen, that's it. As long as you don't break any laws your opinions or political ideology doesn't matter as long as people vote for you you are free to run and attain a government office.
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  22. You are exaggerating PKK is a terror org. in Sweden. One google search is all you need to find that out. I don't blame you I guess they don't teach critical thinking where you are from.
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  23. Who cares, Turkey supports Hamas, Al-Nusra and The Muslim brotherhood. I guess they're both guilty of befriending terrorists.
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  24.  @dr38a  I don't think it matters too much, the US and UK have already given Sweden and Finland guarantees that they will come to their aid if they get attacked. Even if Turkey blocks them from being an official NATO member the other member states are free to make a defence clause with Sweden and Finland like the US and UK have done already. We're not looking for Turkish protection, we're more interested to co-operate with our European friends and especially the Americans.
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  25.  @_Redronin_  Then why are your government officials constantly whining about it and trying every way they can to make deals to lift the sanctions?
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  26.  @_Redronin_  It's a good thing you started building your own things, it doesn't look like your "allies" want to share theirs with you.
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  27. Sweden and Finland doesn't support PKK that's disinformation. PKK is a designated terror org. in Finland and Sweden. YPG is another matter and YPG is not a terrorist org. in the EU and US. As for Turkey they support Hamas, Al-nusra and the Muslim brotherhood among other orgs. that are designated terrorists in the EU and US so it's not like they can pretend they have clean hands. At the end of the day Turkey has all the rights to deny NATO entry to Sweden and Finland but the reason is political and surely they realize Sweden will never agree to extradite government officials. I can understand the other demands as Erdogan is looking to look strong for his election but to extradite government officials that's just silly, he must know they would never in a million years do that.
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  28.  @powasjington4262  I think you missed the fact that Turkey has been sanctioned by the US and the EU and are not allowed to buy weapons, something they have openly complained loudly about for a long time now.
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  29. It's irrelevant, It's only illegal to be a member of the PKK in Sweden. There are no laws against against waving PKK flags or sympathize with their cause. Until Turkey can prove she is a current member of the PKK she does not break any Swedish law.
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