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Comments by "xXxSkyViperxXx" (@xXxSkyViperxXx) on "The Indonesian Chinese still grappling with discrimination" video.
seems to be the same history as the chinese community in the philippines, except there isnt as much big conflict and chinese assimilate more fluidly throughout the centuries
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@Kennedy oh you guys go to chinese christian private schools too. we chinese here are mostly like this too. spanish segregation before from the colonial caste system was also mostly enforced through tax and economic merchant connections and landlord tenant middlemen position privileges. i forgot but i think it was something like double the tax rate for mestizo de sangley (born from chinese and native/spaniard), then spaniards born from spain or philippines or mestizo de espanyol(born from spanish and native) were exempt from taxes, then normal taxes for the native populace. tax was like this but chinese had preferred privilege for foreign and local wholesaler trade, shophouse business, and becoming landlord tenant middlemen families.
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not colonized? *insert 333 years of Spanish acculturation and 45 years of American "guidance" lol Las Yslas Filipinas es leal la madre España por el rey y prayles kastila la nombre "Filipinas" es el rey felipe de españa you be surprised what each colonial power's strategy in governing was. i am fil-chi from manila and what the spanish did centuries ago as their colonial tactics was to confine the sangley(chinese) into parians within major cities just outside the walled cities. these parians became the first ever chinatowns in the world such as binondo in manila. they did this to make sure to keep a close eye on the chinese and only chinese who converted to roman catholicism were allowed to marry local filipinos and spanish filipinos and move out of parians to live with them around the country. these created mixed blood families called mestizos. there were mestizos de español, mestizos de sangley, tornatras, etc. around 33% of the filipino genepool population now has east asian genes from intermarrying with mostly hokkien chinese and some few japanese and cantonese-taishanese mixes. just a couple of centuries ago, when koxinga, chinese pirates, the japanese shogun threatened and raided the philippine northern coasts. the spanish and the locals usually retaliated with anger at the local chinese and japanese population. the spanish would bombard the local chinatowns with cannons and the locals would invade chinese stores, businesses, and houses to take the money they think we chinese would not share with them. as recent as the philippine revolution a hundred years ago, they did this in negros occidental to fuel the uprising there.
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@Kennedy its a bit split but mostly christian. there are a number of chinese-filipino schools here. a good many are roman catholic and good many are also protestant christian schools. only a few select are buddhist schools. i myself am protestant evangelical christian chinese-filipino with mostly others around me that are that too but i have had chinese-filipino classmates from catholic chinese-filipino schools and a classmates from a buddhist chinese-filipino school. in the far south at mindanao, i hear the muslim sultans and politicians there also have some chinese blood from their ancestors who intermarried with rich chinese families in those provinces.
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@Kennedy how did they become christian though and why only the chinese are christian and not native indonesians around them? i guess the dutch and portuguese were not as strict at converting locals to christianity? or muslims were just really resistant to christian conversion?
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@koko.proyek yeah schools here too can accept students even if they don't have any part of chinese ancestry, usually the catholic schools since most local filipinos are catholics and chinese schools are also top performing schools, the protestant chinese schools can accept too but there just aren't as many in some schools so some schools are mostly chinese. If the chinese-filipino went to a chinese-filipino school, we are taught mandarin in a class since preschool or some schools only start teaching it at high school. A few schools also sometimes have additional chinese math, chinese composition, chinese calligraphy classes, but most schools would at least only have one chinese subject. Though even with mandarin classes, i dont think we are any good at mandarin since we never use it anyway in life besides if we encounter mainlander tourists or if there families are mandarin speakers at home. If you encounter a chinese filipino in philippine chinatowns like binondo in manila for them to speak mandarin, they will usually just say ting bu dong because they wouldn't bother to use it. Most chinese filipinos are hokkien/fukien so a lot of our families speak hokkien/fukien at home but the young generation like us dont speak it as much anymore and at least only understand when we hear it since none of it is taught at school. we would rather use english and tagalog or their provincial language and a mix of such. Sometimes some chinese filipinos though mix just a few bits of hokkien into their code switching so taglish(tagalog+english) for example becomes hokaglish.
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