Comments by "Killed The Cat" (@killedthecat1034) on "Acting DHS chief: We have an unprecedented crisis" video.

Seriously Trump cult? People talk about humanitarian crisis and the very first thing you guys go to is let's attack CNN. Yeah, that makes sense. You've all lost perspective. People need help.
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You hear the words humanitarian crisis and all you can do is argue about who was right and who was wrong. You're all wrong for that. If it was you, your family, your people in that humanitarian crisis, I imagine you'd all be a little less glib. Get over yourselves and your partisan crap.
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@stephentoth6003 OMG! Do I really have to..... Ya know what.... Fine. 2 facts, The numbers fluctuate as to how many people go across the border and have done so for decades depending on what is going on in the world. The numvers of how many are trying to come across have steadily increased since Trump instituted his barbaric border policies. You guys aren't mad at CNN for not reporting on what's going on at the border. You're mad at CNN because they're not framing it the way you like. They aren't feeding into the fear-mongering scare tactics about how Isis and gangs are all coming over in hordes and they're invading our country. They're reporting the actual crisis and why it's happening. They have been for a long time. It's just not framed the way you like it. Irregardless, there is a humanitarian crisis at the border and the first thing that comes to mind for you guys is... Lets attack CNN. Its pointless and helps noone.
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@stephentoth6003 Thanks for the detailed response. I have to go to work tomorrow. So gotta get to bed buy I will read it over and respond tomorrow. See you then 😁
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@stephentoth6003 Okay... So, to say he exaggerates is an understatment. He lies. Like... A lot. Most of the time to get him out of something he has done or said. ... Sorry... Not trying to start off to sassy, cuz I am always up for a civil convo, like you... But... Dude just wouldnt know the truth if it came up and bit him on the butt. Lol And the important part of that is what he does when he lies. Lile the huge group of migrants, the caravan, trying to get here. These where desprate, hungry and scared people.... Just trying to get someqhere safe and he goes and continuously talks about how they have Isis memebers and gang members in there and that it's an invasion. It was hurtful and didn't make sense to anyone looking at it for more than a few seconds. We are talking MS13 and Isis here... Do you really think thats the way they are gonna come over? Walking for months across desert country's for thousands of miles? Thats just silly.... But it did what he wanted it to. Villainized these people. Point being... His lies hurt others and they hurt us as a country. Thats why they should not be downplayed. So... The border. There is and has been a big problem for a long time. I very much agree. I would agree with your stats even. This is not a small thing. Do people lie to get in? Yes. Do they overstay? Yes. Are they all angels or honest actors? No. Should they come in the right way? Yes. For them and us actually. They come in the right way and it gives them a better chance of making a better life. America afords them the full protection of its rights and privileges to them as citizens. I also don't think it's fair to the people who go through the process of coming in the right way.... That all being said... I alsonsee another side. I see the desperation of these people... You have mothers who litterally scar their little girls faces over there if they are to pretty. They aren't being cruel. They do it because if they don't they have a 1 in 4 chance of being taken and sold into sex slavery. For the boys it's not much better. One in 3 will work for the cartels between the ages of 13 and 30.... And if you don't, you often go hungry. These are not uncommon things... And what makes it worse is our country was a big part in making them lile that. Our drug war empowered the cartels. Our CIA. I'm a mother of an 8 year old little boy. If that was his life, crossing over a border illegally would seam very arbitrary to me. Conning an Asylum claim would also. The average wait time for citizenship is anywhere from 10 to 15 years and Asylum is no less than 2. When you're dealing with that kind of life for you and your children , that might as well be a lifetime away. ... And then there are the other policies... Taking people's children, putting them in cages and loosing them in the system. Some still haven't been found. Also, the restriction on asylem claims are only getting worse and waittimes for citizenship longer.... With his policies. So claiming he just wants them to come in legally and then making it harder fpr them to even do that. Thats not even counting the ICE agents run a mock. Litterally pulling kids with cancer out of their hospital beds and locking them up, refusing to even take asylum claims at the border with no questions asked... And more. See... My argument is not that there isn't an issue. We have a broken system amd it needs fixing. My argument is, the way Trump is going about it is cruel and also ineffective, to the point of making it worse. And don't even get me started on that stupid wall... Of the goverment he held hostage too try and get it. Goverment workers and families lost their homes and their kids when without food. Some lost pentions cuz it went on so long that they had only 2 paths. Quit and get a new job or go broke.... And then it was all for nothing. Hell,that is the only time that wall had a lagit reason. Just to get the goverment back up and help those goverment workers and their fams. So all that wouldnt of been for nothing. Okay... Sorry... That was a little rant happy. 😊 lol Bottom line, at some point Mexico needs to take hold of their own country and fix things. I do agree with that... But we need to be helping them do that and not hurting the people. We need a better system. We should not downplay the situation by any means. We just can't forget these people, we can't forget our own moral compass in the process, is all.
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@stephentoth6003 I get the family separation thing. Though, there are studies that indicate that keeping smaller children with their parents in a family center would be less tramatic, but court ruling is a court ruling. The way this administration went about it though. ... - kids in cages - not keeping records of where these kids are going - who they are - who their parents are - missing several court ordered deadlines to turn over records because they didnt want to get caught not keeping accurate records - because of this there are still about 1200 kids missing. Thats on our watch. That was our gobernment that did that... Ya know. As far as terrorists... I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying they where not in that caravan of starving, desprate men women and children that walked across 2 desert countries for months on end, in order to get here. You wanna talk about faulse narratives... That was a big one. As well as saying it was an invasion. So... If your going to be frustrated at misinformation and faulse naratives then you should be mad at that one also, right? Also a nerd thing for me. In the last decade there has only been 1 confirmed terrorist choosing to cross at our southern border and he didnt come in a caravan of starving desperate people over thousend of miles on foot. Gangs and drugs? Yes but they also did not come in that caravan. They are both criminal orginizations and they have better funding and better ways. Thats just common sense. Wouldn't you agree? Cuz if you do, then you should also agree that these people where being skapegoated? Here is another things about that and this is where I argue that for some (I'm sure not you) it is about race. Why is it all about that border? Just as many drugs come from the other one and the 911 terrorists came from that one. Yet we don't hear anything about it?
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@stephentoth6003 alright... Calm down a little please? No, I'm not kidding you. I do not amd did not claim all that think that securing our Southern border and dealing with our Southern border crisis are racist. You're starting to have a tendency of putting words in my mouth instead of hearing what I'm actually saying. Maybe it's because you're passionate on the subject or maybe you're used to hearing that argument from others. I don't know, but I think you should go back and read what I wrote. There is an element of racism in the fact that we spend all this time and all this energy on the southern border. We don't even mention the northern border. Just as many drugs and just as many illegals come in through that border but most tend to be white. That is the only difference. So to not acknowledge that in some fashion, there is an element of racism oh, it's simply not looking at all the facts. I don't go around calling people racist and I don't use that phrase as a shutdown argument either. I also gave you a couple of examples why the northern border is just as at-risk. I also acknowledged and will continue to acknowledge the problems on the southern border. Braces and being a element but far from the only one. So you implying that I'm using racism as some kind of excuse, is Ludacris. Who told me that was government statistics by the way. I'm at work now but when I get home later I can send you the link. They are different kinds of drugs but in similar quantities. For instance, more coke and weed come through the southern border fight a lot more amphetamines and stolen prescriptions ecstasy, stuff like that come to the more northern border. Opioids. This has reason behind it as well. Drugs across the board are cheaper in Canada. I'm not ignoring that Canada is fighting against it. I didn't say that one way or another. You're putting words into my mouth again. Yes they are different situations but the numbers don't lie. You can have different situations with similar results. Also again I'm not ignoring any of the other problems from the southern border, I have addressed and agreed with you on a lot of them. You just seem to be losing your mind that I brought up a racism Factor. I never once said that all the problems were made up and that it was strictly about racism. I do believe ignoring ignoring that factor is tantamount to the same thing you seem to be getting cranky about right now with me. I could name about a dozen major factors in the southern border problems. One of them just happens to be the fear-mongering about people who come in from that border. That's not a small problem. They get treated as less than human by a lot of people.
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What does that even mean? They just said there is a humanitarian and security crisis. No one gets to own it. Or rather everybody owns it. They say the words humanitarian crisis and you automatically go to attack CNN. That's really your first thought? Dude you've lost perspective.
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@stephentoth6003 Its more than misfortunite! Its inhumane. That is why it is so important not to dehumanize these people. That's how children end up in cages. It makes it easier for the culture to swallow if you see them as bad. Irregardless of rationale. Trump put children in cages and then when asked about it, lied. That's certainly more towards Hitler than it is Gandhi. Then after his administration finally admitted that that was going on, they fought court cases in battles in order to not have to turn over information that would find where these children ended up and where are their parents ended up. He didn't try to help the situation. He tried to make it worse. There's no excuse for that. It should also not be minimalized.
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@stephentoth6003 I can't speak on Obama or kids in cages because I genuinely never heard that. What I will do is research it though.
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@stephentoth6003 I do know however that two wrongs don't make a right.
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@stephentoth6003 okay, I didnt disagree with you on the stats with Asylum. I even actually agree with you on most of them. Now please address what I did say is happening at the border with the asylums? Which was people who come to the Border are being turned away when asking for Asylum. They're coming through the checkpoints. They're not even being considered. There are multiple reports on this. As well as ice doing some horrific and barbaric s*** to illegals. I agree with you that we need to fix our border security system. But what I'm saying is if we are going to insist that they come in through legal points of Entry then we need to hold up our end of that deal. We need to First accept their Asylum claims, it should not take 10 to 15 years to become a citizen, and it should not take two years to apply for Asylum. Which is another way Trump is slowing down the process. He's not appointing judges to Asylum claim courts. It's been two years. So not only are they using Extreme Measures to insist that people come in the port's legally but he is also slowing down and hindering people who do want to come in Legally and go through the legal process of doing so. That's not fair.
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@stephentoth6003 that's not why the numbers are going up. You even said that the numbers are quoting of 85% and 15% when speaking on not coming back to court for Asylum claims has been going on for a long time. They are shooting up so much now because of the way the Trump Administration is instituting these policies.
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@stephentoth6003 sorry I'm responding as I'm reading if you haven't noticed. You are absolutely right we need more of all of that stuff. Judges beds Etc
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@stephentoth6003 that's not why they're claiming it's a manufactured crisis by the way. If you listen to what they say, they're saying exactly what I'm saying. The policies and the way they are enforcing them is making the situation worse. They are saying that it is a crisis of our own making by the approach this Administration is taking. That rhymes my bad LOL
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@stephentoth6003 okay I'm actually at work now. So when I get home later I'm going to pull up some government stats for you on Southern and Northern border. I think the only thing that's going to settle the disagreement is facts. So just table it for now please
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@stephentoth6003 it's okay. I wasn't sure half the time I was reading that a whole racism thing whether you were speaking to me specifically or not. You seem very passionate about that and you were saying a lot of things that I actually didn't say. So that kind of made me feel like you were venting more than speaking on what I was. Lol it happens lol
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@stephentoth6003 the cages I'm talking about are the ones where you see tons of kids in one big long cage with those shiny metal looking blankets on concrete floors. Detention Facility or not that is in no way how children should ever be treated. I will say the exact same thing after I research the Obama stuff you're talking about if that happened with them. But them doing it then does not mean it's okay for Trump to do it now. It is inexcusable at any time with any child or for any reason.
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@stephentoth6003 it's not a distortion of what's Happening. It literally happened either way. It is not excusable either way. My suggestion would be to stop putting children in those cages first. Second there are family detention areas that Studies have shown that could be beneficial or at the very least less traumatic. My suggestion would be keeping records on where these children are going and where their parents are and who their parents are. My suggestion would be not fighting in court to not turn over those records so we can find those children. My suggestion would be children don't wait 20 days in a cage before they're shipped off somewhere else they don't know it regardless of whether it's better or worse. My suggestion would be they setups child friendly facilities for these children and they go there immediately. Also that they are able to keep in contact with their parents. My suggestion is that there is a humane way to do this and the Trump Administration seems to be going out of their way to do the opposite.
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@Snow Owl do you seriously have any other answer their other than it's the big bad Democrats? Cuz really dude how partisan can you be
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And what other kind of Crisis was that? They didn't name 2.
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@Matt-il8zz you can just hear him say there was a crisis at the border right?
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@Matt-il8zz this is CNN right?
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@NPC13377 yes the invading Caravan horde filled with Isis members and gang members was actually not ever coming. That's what Don Lemon said. That was just b***** fear-mongering.
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@stephentoth6003 So... Looked it up to be accurate. 14 out of the 19 flew through connecting flights through Canada. All 19 had either work or student visas.
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