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Comments by "" (@BobSmith-dk8nw) on "Countering Plan Z - What would the Royal Navy have done?" video.
@genericpersonx333 Actually ... had not Hitler and the Nazi's taken control of Germany ... such an alliance of Germany and the UK against the Soviets - who OBTW - may have taken Poland as well as the Baltic States ... might have been a real possibility. .
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@bluemarlin8138 Yeah. It's hard to say what might have happened if that runner hadn't made it from one bunker to the next - or - gotten to one a little sooner or left the other a little later ... .
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Yes. There was never a doubt in my mind that had the Germans actually tried to implement Plan Z the RN would have responded. One thing I was not aware of - though perhaps I should have been - was the loss of capability in the wake of the Washington Naval Treaty for making large naval guns in the UK. I am curious as to how such a thing could have happened. I would wonder if there was ever consideration of buying the guns from the US as it could still make them. One factor in using the turrets and tubes of older decommissioned ships - to build new ones ... is that - once war came - those tubes could and did wear out. It is my understanding that a number of ships wore out their tubes supporting Overlord. I also ... think ... I'm not sure but I think ... the US had produced extra tubes for this very reason for it's 16 in. ships - which I do believe it still has. ??? It reminds me of the scrapping of the USN's earlier Super Carriers - instead of moth balling them - as in the event of a War with China and/or Putin's Russia if we lost Carriers they take a very long time to replace. The one thing that has been done though - is continuing to produced Carriers, Submarines and MBT's in excess of requirements - just to keep from losing the ability to make them. They have at least done that ... so far ... .
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@gregorywright4918 About those carriers - that is what the bean counters would have you believe. It's like the LHD they just shit canned. They determined that it would take up production capacity from the ship yards that were building new ones and hence set back construction schedules - and - since we weren't at war - money was the only thing the bean counters cared about. The thing with those carriers is that if they were moth balled - and we needed them because we'd lost some - they could be brought back on line faster than building new ones regardless of what had to be done to them. If we were at war - and the issue was production capacity - then it would have been - add production capacity - which was NOT something that was going to be done for the LHD that caught fire in peace time. The thing was all those carriers were running when they were were decommissioned. They weren't decommissioning non-functional ships. So - they COULD be fixed well enough to serve better than no ship at all - which is what they'll have now. The real issue - is that it cost money to moth ball these ships as they were - and that is what the Bean Counters cared about. To a Bean Counter it's - why "waste" money mothballing a ship that's worn out? If we bring it back on line - how much longer can we use it before we have to do major rebuilds of it? This is non-economical. Any time you hear something from a bean counter - it's bull shit. All those ass holes ever see - is money. They don't see combat effectiveness. They only see how much something costs. Thus - the shit canning of the F-14's - which were better aircraft than the F-18's - but - because the 18's were newer and had been specifically designed to be cheaper to operate - they were. That was all the Bean counters cared about. And then - some bright boy out of fear that Iran would somehow get some of the parts from these aircraft if they were sitting in a bone yard - they had them all destroyed. We live in a nation run by idiots. It isn't the conservatives or the liberals - it's the Bean Counters that are the real problem. They will ALWAYS have a reason not to do something because of money. The number of people who will die because of their decisions doesn't matter. The Bean Counters count coins - not blood. Blood doesn't enter into their calculations. .
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Well ... I had this big long thing written up ... but decided not to post it. What I will say - is that you don't know a damn thing about me - what I know - and how I know it. I just hope we don't ever find out just how right I am. .
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