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@adriangallyot4193 I never said it was a "fluke". Obviously, aborigines survived for so long because they could adapt to different conditions and changes to the environment over a long period time.
It's all very subjective when you, like others who try to embellish the way of life of pre-settlement aborigines, insist on using words like "complex" and "sophisticated" (that's a favourite). What are you comparing it to? Chimpanzees using sticks to catch termites?
Most of the rest of humanity began moving out of a Paleolithic way of living more than 10'000 years ago. Australian aborigines never progressed beyond the use of the simplest of tools like stone axes and wooden spears. This is not complexity.
You use the term "navigation". I assume you are referring to on land because there is no evidence to show aborigines navigated the oceans to any significant degree. It is not really surprising, or impressive for that matter, that someone could find their way around a place they have occupied for tens of thousands of years.
The same could be said about the use of what is available in the environment for food, medicine etc. Except aborigines never learnt to use resources like iron of course.
The lack of natural human curiosity displayed is dumbfounding compared to what other humans were doing around the planet. So many other cultures show a keen interest in observing and recording the movement of celestial objects like the sun, moon and stars. There is almost zero evidence of this anywhere on the whole continent. (Yes, I know about the Dark Emu. Aborigines knew it's position in the sky in relation to different seasons). Big deal. Look at the systems of astronomy used by other societies like the Egyptians or the Mayans who built ACTUAL complex structures to align with the position of the sun or stars on particular days of the year. Mind blowing!
Elsewhere in the world where humans have inhabited, there is found in the archaeological layers a rapid progressive development of things like tools, weapons, pottery, architecture, carvings, adornments etc. This is non-existent in Australia. Almost exclusively we find shell middens or remnants of a hearth, basic stone tools and rock art.
The few places any kind of "structures" can be found they consist of piled rocks a person could lift easily with both hands. This is not sophisticated.
No written language, no wheel, no bow and arrows, no real understanding of the processes of the natural environment... tell me when to stop.
Name me one thing, an invention, an innovation or an idea that comes from pre-settlement aboriginal culture that tangibly benefits an average person in our modern society on a day to day basis.
I am assuming you probably "educated" yourself with books like Dark Emu by Bruce Pascoe who is not Aboriginal and whose work has been widely discredited.
The proof of what was here, is what there is to show it was here in the first place...or lack thereof.
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@ultravioletsus It has nothing to do with numbers of people. In Srebrenica, men and boys were rounded up and executed. They weren't warned in advance, they weren't told where to go to get out of harms way, they weren't accorded safe passage to leave. They were simply shot because they were Muslims. No fair-minded, rational person would say that this what is happening in Gaza.
What Hamas did on Oct 7 in Israel describes genocidal behaviour perfectly. They attacked communities of Jewish people with the sole purpose of killing as many people as possible; men, woman, babies, elderly, young, sick...anyone they came across. At the same time they raped, tortured, tormented and kidnapped hostages to take back to Gaza.
Hamas killed 1'200 Israelis in one day. Israel has been at war in Gaza for 100 days. Do you really believe if it was their intention to commit genocide, the death toll (according to Hamas) would be only 23'000 people?
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@AnthonyD-yy2in Australian's didn't care about his race until he started making it an issue. Like most people, I didn't even recognise him as having Aboriginal ancestry until he started talking about it...I just thought he was a great journalist who started using a solarium too much.
I don't know what your life experiences has been, but I have worked for decades in a wide variety of security roles working and interacting with a broad cross-section of the Australian community. This has included people from all parts of the world...different cultures, languages, customs, beliefs etc. I have also worked with many co-workers of Aboriginal background. No-one cares what race someone is, everybody just gets on with the job. It's live and let live. My perception is most people seem to get on well with each other.
Having said that, almost exclusively, the only people I have ever seen overtly racially abusing other people in a public setting is Aboriginals. I have witnessed them abusing every racial group imaginable. They even racially abuse each other...loudly, in public, in front of large groups of people. I have been called a "white c***" and a "white dog" literally hundreds of times over decades without ever initiating or responding with racial abuse. (I won't do that, it's just low hanging fruit). Every person I have ever worked with from a non-Caucasian background has a story about being racially abused by Aboriginals. Most Australians have witnessed this behaviour at sometime in their lives. That's why when commentators like Stan Grant and Craig Foster try to put a guilt trip on people it doesn't sit well.
It doesn't help when the media seems to have an almost blanket-ban on ever showing this behaviour when it is Aboriginals. When a Anglo-Australian is ever caught on camera being racist it is all over the news for days and made to seem like every time a non-Caucasian steps out of their front door, they get spat on or abused by evil "white" people.
This is not a true reflection of Australians or Australian society.
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@kieran2842 I know what you mean about censorship on this channel. 😄 I had a comment disappeared yesterday for literally just agreeing with the main comment, so I appreciate your efforts to respond.
In response, I will repeat the question you didn't answer. Even if the death toll is 200'000 (which it isn't), how do you account for the low number of deaths in a pre-war population of more than 2'000'000 if "genocide" is the aim?
During the Holocaust (an ACTUAL genocide) the Nazis could exterminate 10's of 1'000's of Jews in a few days using just bullets and a few dozen men! Not to mention the industrial scale murder of the death camps.
Of any group of people, you would think Jews would know what genocide is. How do you explain the IDF evacuating a million people out of Rafa before going in to destroy the Hamas presence there if their aim was to kill civilians? No army in history has done this during war.
It is the historical persecution of Jews that justifies the response to the pogrom of Oct 7 2023. "Never Again!" means just that, and as Benjamin Netanyahu stated "Never Again is now!"
Once that dark side of humanity comes out, it doesn't just stop. It expands exponentially like it did during the Holocaust and WW2 resulting in the deaths of tens of millions of people.
Israel is at the moment, the bulwark for the civilised world, holding back the spread of a savage, archaic ideology (Islamism) that would (by its own admission) spread across the world and force humanity to subjugate itself before it.
The world should be supporting Israel 's actions, not condemning them!
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@thevocalcrone Julian Assange started out as a very skilful computer hacker living a safe, comfortable life in the suburbs of Australia. He doesn't care about human rights. All he ever cared about was giving the middle finger to the U.S. He has never experienced living under an oppressive system like apartheid. He has never risked his life fighting to free his people from cruelty and injustice.
Yes, Mandela did commit acts of terrorism, but he put his life at great risk doing so, trying to end the subjugation and exploitation of his people.
You obviously have little understanding of deprivations Mandela had to endure.
Assange did everything from the safety of his keyboard. He has never been subject to the humilation, violence and mental and physical torture that Mandela was while he was on Robben Island and in other prisons.
Assange, by choice, hid in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, living in relative comfort and having all his basic needs provided for until he was moved to a prison after many years.
You have no idea if his actions have ever hurt anyone. He dumped, on a public forum, a vast amount of highly classified information, including the personal details of people working covertly in hostile environments without any regard for the risk to their lives if discovered.
Assange does not, and never will, inspire millions of people around the world with his courage, forgiveness and compassion for others.
Nelson Mandela was one of the greatest statesman of the modern era and had more dignity in the tip of his little finger than Julian Assange could ever show over a lifetime.
In their personalities, their life experiences, their motivation, their achievements, their influence on others; Nelson Mandela and Julian Assange are nothing alike...get some perspective!
(YouTube will delete this, no doubt). 😄
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@b1LL1eMc I don't have disdain for Aboriginal people as individuals when I interact with them, (which is a lot by the way), I do have disdain for this intentional false narrative that has beeen pushed, ever increasingly on our society, that Aboriginal culture is an integral part of every Australian's day to day life.
I am staggered that your perception is there is no acknowledgement of Aboriginals. Putting aside these almost mandatory Welcoming ceremonies and Acknowledgement speeches, Aboriginals receive preferential treatment for employment, (especially government jobs), state housing, healthcare, welfare, grants, and application of the law, (judges and magistrates have to take into account a person's aboriginality when sentencing).
Businesses name their buildings with Aboriginal words and have their artwork and painting everywhere, (inside and outside), Aboriginal flags are flown alongside the actual flag of this country wherever it is displayed, (25 million dollars just to put the Aboriginal flag on the Sydney Harbour Bridge)!
Workplaces have mandatory Aboriginal culture modules staff have to complete, every year we have NAIDOC week, Sorry Day, Reconciliation Week to name a few, we find different sporting codes having so-called Indigenous rounds (recently Cricket Australia thought it was a good idea to make cricketers at the start of the season perform a ridiculous made-up ritual), there are indigenous only sporting events, Indigenous television channels, Indigenous radio stations, I could go on and on.
There has always been education in schools about Aboriginal culture. When I was in primary school in the 70's we were taught about way of life, cultural practices, spiritual beliefs and also about the killing of Aboriginals by Early Settlers. I remember reading the picture book about the Rainbow Serpent as a kid almost 45 years ago.
Aboriginal issues are spoken about daily in the media. Especially on the ABC and SBS.
At the start of ANZAC Day ceremonies Aboriginal ritual has been inserted even though it has nothing to do with ANZAC Day!
30 BILLION dollars is allocated to helping Aboriginals every year, this despite them making up a bit over 3% of the whole population. Totally disproportionate!
How can you possibly say "your people" are not recognised???
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@mathheadpaul8571 It's the reality of life on the planet Earth. The stronger and more adaptable dominate and flourish to the detriment of the weaker and less capable of adapting to change. It can't be looked at any other way. It's the same for animals, plants, insects, microbes...any living thing.
In terms of the human organism, it is bit hard to look at the last few hundred years of human history and not acknowledge Europeans have been dominant over others.
In the past, peoples from non-European areas of the planet have been dominant for a period of time, as will almost certainly happen again in the future.
The other point, in terms of perspective, is that Europeans have done just as bad (if not worse) things to themselves as they have done to others including slavery, torture, genocide and dispossession of property and territory. Just look at the suffering, misery and cruelty inflicted during WW1 and WW2 or The Inquisition.
Humans are in a constant state of conflict.
Why should people of European ancestry (White people) feel guilty because they happen to have been strong enough and resourceful enough to dominant and subjugate much larger populations of people with relatively few of their own?
Persians, Egyptians, Mongols, Chinese, Mayans, Incas, Songhai, Zulus etc. etc. are all allowed to be proud of their violent, conquering ancestral empires...why should the British have to pretend they are ashamed of theirs?
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@usernotfound40412 I agree. That, to me, is the naivety of Western countries today. The idea that thousands of years of learned behaviours, cultural practices and accepted ways of thinking are suddenly going to be put aside and everyone will live happily ever after in one big, homogeneous global society just because we are all human, is wishful thinking.
Anyway, who really wants that? How dull would it be if everyone thought the same way, lived the same way, believed the same things, ate the same food, dressed the same etc. etc.
As the saying goes..."Variety is the very spice of life, That gives it all it's flavour"!
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