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Comments by "Ōkami-san" (@mweibleii) on "Thom Hartmann on the News: May 2, 2013" video.
The 'Left' (whom under Clinton deregulated Wall Street), voted right along with 'The Right' in CONgress to support the fraudulent Trillion Dollars Oil Wars, that together with 'The Right' put us Trillions of dollars in debt to pay off the "Too Big To Fail" Banks through our FORCED Labor Tax - that assassinated an American teenager in Yemen ..... isn't as bad as 'The Right'. Good to know you hold your standards so high. Get in line with the other Sheep and vote Hillary or whomever they puke up.
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I have no problem paying taxes (or tolls or for any services I voluntarily choose to use). What I have a problem with is paying LABOR tax. Paying the government for the right to work is immoral. And, this is the ONLY way Thom can pay for all the "wonderful" changes "Progressives" like him want to shovel onto society (like tariffs on laptops). He will happily let the State put "Free" Citizens in a Cage (at the point of a Gun) for the "Good of the Nation". This is what Progressivism IS.
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O-blah-blah has fulling supported the use of depleted uranium casings in the Iraq War. He knows full well how horribly malformed both the land and the children born deformed are. He doesn't give two shits. FACT: Under O-blah-blah the richest top 1% have racked in OVER 100% of the gains. You want to know how that's possible? The bottom 99% went NEGATIVE. He can't bail out the Fat Bankers fast enough! We're only at the beginning. This IS the New Economy, it's here to stay, I hope you like it.
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I didn't vote for Bush Jr. He should be sent to prison, along with his father, Clinton and O-blah-blah. As for HOW O-blah-blah (or any POTUS) spends your children's future, he doesn't need the Senate. All he needs to do is hire an immoral Chairman at the Federal Reserve. O-blah-blah has added over $5 TRILLION dollars to your children's future debt. Douche Jr likewise added about $5 TRILLION in a war the vast majority of DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED Vote DEM or GOP - it doesn't and won't matter
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You can't stop another Citizen from working. Politicians will do the bidding of the rich in exchange for a plum job later. FACT: Many of O-blah-blah's cabinet used to work for GoldmanSucks and the rest WILL when they leave government. It's illegal and immoral to prevent Citizens from expressing their political view. Have you actually read the US Constitution? They still read that in Public Schools? Probably not. The ONLY solution is to eliminate government's influence so it's not worth buying.
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I don't buy into the idea of liberal and conservative. Firstly, liberal used to mean conservative. I'm fiscally conservative, yet socially liberal. Take O-blah-blah as an example. Is he Conservative? Seem so to me.
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Without aid from Washington? Ha! Just where the hell does "Washington" get all it's money from? They've conned you into thinking they're giving to YOU when in reality its YOU giving to them. Anyway, in a truly free society the people who live in the States have the right to peacefully succeed. And I hope they do. Oh, and there are plenty in the North who want to get the f*ck away from Washington. I know, I'm from the North. Watch sentiment change as the economy tanks for another decade or two.
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Do you think the Japanese company Toyota 'needs broken up'? Do you propose invading Japan and forcing our Laws upon them? Or is Toyota OK as is? How about the US company Apple? Are you worried "Apple" is going to do something against you? And, what WOULD that be exactly? Care to give some examples of how Apple is going to do something against you without using the US Government to do so?
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RE: Apple pays hardly any taxes. And? So what? Imagine if Apple were to pay more tax to the one group of people who can Legally initiate violence against you: Govt. That means (A) the 'govt' now has even more resources to initiate violence against you (B) Less money to invest into making more products we like (C) Higher costs of the products people do like (D) Less employees working for Apple and making these products and more employees working in the 'govt' making life hell for everyone else.
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Attorney General of the United States, Eric Holder, has stated EXPLICITLY in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, he will not prosecute the large criminal banking institutions - even when they are found guilty of laundering 100s if BILLIONS of dollars in drug cartel money. Guess who picks the Public's #1 Defender? Oh, that would, again, be the POTUS. Keep voting "Right" and "Left" while these sociopathic politicians sell your children's labor off to the highest bidder.
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Fact: Washington sociopaths fully support the use of depleted uranium in war - knowing full well this pollutes the land, air and water and will do so for millennia, deforming human children. Fact: Thousands of Iraqi mothers are giving birth to deformed mentally retarded children thanks to your Washington sociopaths (Bush Jr and O-blah-blah). That's a fact.
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LOL... Hitler was a Social Democrat. When people say the want to "help" society by sticking a gun in your face, threatening you with life in a cage and taxing your labor, they are NOT peaceful people. Let's see, Thom wants to impose tariffs "for the good of the Nation". Oh really? And how's he going to enforce Tariffs? A Gun. What's he going to do if a so-called "Free" Citizen *gasp* freely buys something made overseas? A Cage. How's he going to pay for all this? Labor Tax! Peaceful...LMFAO
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LOL The GOP barely holds the house and lost the Senate. The DEM have full control of CONgress and the White House. Yet you still think "Conservatives" are at fault - and for what? Trying to prevent CONgress from spending more of your children's future. Well, I can't blame you, you probably have next to no idea of how money comes into existence, why the velocity of money will never be high enough, no matter how hard we work, to repay our debt. Hope you like the New Economy - it's here to stay.
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The 1800s was the most prosperous time in the History of the USA. Not only did literacy rates sky rocket (for both Whites and Blacks) but so to did life expectancy. Wages remained stable while prices continued to decrease. Life in the USA was the envy of the World. Sadly, the feral Progressive parasites that act as the Federal Government couldn't help but steal this wealth through the creation of the Federal Reserve and fiat money.
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O-blah-blah has done more to bail out the wealthiest top 0.1% of any other POTUS in the History of the USA. Bushwacker did set the stage. Am I 'Terrified'. No. The suck-ups in Washington, the Welfare Queen Progressives and Chicken-hawk Conservatives, have finally bankrupted the country. Thus, either the people wake up or, if history is anything to go by, they'll be used as cannon fodder in the next major war. Either way, I am far from scared. I don't see the republic lasting past 2035. Good.
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Do you know a Government even is? In what way is a "Government" (a group of humans) different from any other Private group? A Government only has one differentiating feature: It has the legal right to initiate force against people "aka: Citizens" in a defined geographical area. That's the ONLY difference. That's it. Government's are by their very nature - evil. Your lovely Progressive O-Blah-Blah, is at present, murdering children in numerous countries around the world for Christ's sake.
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Because *gasp* I like to hear different points of view. It's not that Thom is 'wrong' and I am 'right'. It's the what Thom proposes is 'immoral' and what I want is to live in a moral society. Thom and I would like the same thing, the problem is Thom's way is the way of force where's I'm an advocate of the peace movement. Which Thom USED to believe in. Maybe he should work on his hippocampus - it does shrink with age you know and with it, ones sense of well being and working memory.
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As an atheist I'm not sure what a Jesus school even is. I think I'll pass.
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This is what you don't get - people like YOU are the problem How does your Progressive demagogue (O-blah-blah or Hillary) pay for Government 'Services"? FORCE: 1) Income tax (a LABOR TAX on the worker!) and 2) Treasury Bonds (selling off of children's future labor!). Are you starting to see the evil you support? Of course not, you'll appeal to Nationality and claim your use of force is for the "Social Good" (oxymoron) - no different than Fascist Nazi's (they were Social Democrats by the way)
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I can see we're getting back to wasting time. 1) No, the South wouldn't miss the 'aid". 2) If the South wanted to they could sell bonds themselves, just as ANY State can from Greece to Spain to Australia. It would be Washington that would lose money, not the South. 3) I don't live in "The South". I live in "The North". Oh, but guess what, this idea of North and South is idiotic. The fact is the Union is going broke. Watch as you sociopath politicians frog march your family off to War.
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I'm not referring to social security - which is an insurance. If you think "The Government" is going to have any money to pay for you SSI or Medicare when you're "old" you may want to rethink this option. I'm referring to Income tax. A tax on work. The workers must, by Law, pay for the privilege of selling the one thing they do own - their labor. It took an Amendment to the US Constitution. You know for "the Glory of God" and "Good of the Nation".
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How do you think the Federal Government funds itself? Do you even know what a Bond is? What's being sold in a Treasury? Do you know anything about our monetary system? 16th Amendment meaning anything to you? Do you know the difference between currency and money? Do you know how interest rates functions? A Bank Note and the US Dollar? Thank your 12 years of Public Schooling for not knowing anything useful.
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You're the last thing from being an "Individual". You have never once expressed an opinion I couldn't find stated verbatim on MSNBC. You have offered nothing in terms of an original thought - probably ever. You're no different than the millions of other O-bot Cogs the Public Schools pump and dump on a yearly basis - in short: 100% Chattel I'm not Libertarian either Although I do spend part of my year in a Buddhist Temple & research, train and lecture medicine - to medical doctors sayonara
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Maybe you need to look up what money is. The "fed" do not create money. They sell debt. Actually, they sell Bonds on your child's future labor and then give this money to the States. Later, when your child grows up he or she will be forced at the point of a gun to pay back these bonds to the Chinese plus interest. Make sure you let your kids know you fully supported the "feds" selling their labor.
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Keep believing that. Google: Forum Post: Remember: Sequestration was Obama’s Idea
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RE: Get corporate money out of the system.The corporate money is the evil This makes no sense, it's some phraseology you heard Thom or another Progressive say and because your TV said it, now you're parroting it back with as little thought as an actual parrot. Tell me how Apple (one of the largest corporations in the world) is 'Evil'. How is "Apple money" evil? How is it that Apple, a company that CAN ONLY SURVIVE making citizens the things they want - is evil You should vote O-blah-blah 2016
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The real thread is the corporations. Oh, yes, I'm so worried what Apple.com is going to do to me. Or Honda. Just shaking in my boots. You do whatever it is that makes you happy. Vote for O-blah-blah for a third term, I personally don't care. People like you are so far gone it's literally a waste of my time. So, let's agree to go our separate ways - again. You keep on voting for the pig with the brightest lipstick. When your life is much poorer. Look in the mirror to see who is really to blame
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Why don't you actually stop and think why you think Corporate donations are "evil". Corporations themselves can't do anything to you directly. You'd sue them and the CEO would go to prison. So, they buy off the one group of people who can legally murder you: The Government. You want money out of the system? Wake up, that will NEVER happen. What needs to end is the System the money's going into. Government is the ROOT of the evil. Money is only a means. Pull the evil out by the root.
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Maybe you need to look up what the different branches of government actually do. The POTUS appoints the Governors and chooses the chairman. Obama chose Ben Bernanke - who has created Generational amounts of Debt bailing out Banking Criminals. The very same Bankers ruining our economy. The very same WallStreet that Clinton deregulated. These sociopaths are literally selling your child's future labor as Treasury Bonds to the Chinese and you stand there cheerleading as an O-blah-blah apologist.
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Clinton deregulated the banks that O-blah-blah is bailing out to the tune of TRILLIONS. An estimated 35-40 more YEARS of the "New Economy" to repay the 'Bailout'. It's nice to know that for O-blah-blah the Banks/the Richest top 1% are Too Big To Fail - YOU and your children and their children will pay with your labor tax for the rest of your lives. Good thing O-blah-blah has your back. Now, go vote for Hillary, see if she doesn't pick up where her husband started.
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RE: So end Citizens United and the tax loopholes. Oh, so you want to end the first amendment - nice one. RE: These corps are getting too powerful. A corporation can not do anything against you legally. ONLY the Government has that legal right. Thus, corporations buy politicians who pass the pre-written 'regulations' designed violate your civil rights. For example: making it legal for a chemical company to pollute a river so that no one can legally sue and ect...
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Soon the TV will tell you to vote for Hillary POTUS 2016 and like a good little Cog off you'll go to do exactly that... cheerleading and thinking if only the GOP would have Pontiff O-blah-blah make the "needed" changes. This time it's going to be different. Once the "Democrats" have the House as well, then things will change. But, that's the LAST thing either the GOP or DEM would want - or else people like you might wake up and realize the real reason why life is still so shitty - but you won't
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I suggest you vote for Hillary or O-blah-blah again. Oh and keep complaining about the GOP. Just keep playing along with the right -vs- left while they both take you to the cleaners. Because at the end of the day, BOTH the DEM and the GOP sell bonds on your and you families labor. Those bonds were sold and you will pay them back. So, as a "Free" Citizen you can complain or vote for whomever you want to, but you WILL keep paying your income taxes or you WILL be put in a cage. That's the deal.
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"The federal reserve is a weak arm of WALL STREET, not the President." "the national debt has actually been shrinking under Obama" LOL Oh, and you seem to think I'm a Republican, I'm not. Re-read that one more time so you stop puking up these idiotic remarks like "Sorry, GOP IS WORSE". I'm beginning to think you're a mindless Youtube bot designed to simulate low level thought responses to boost Thom's count. Thus, we'll have to bring this waste of time circle-jerk of a conversation to an end.
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Your hero O-blah-blah murdered an American teenager in Yemen. This is a fact. Clinton Deregulated Wall Street. Fact. Hillary was in FULL SUPPORT of the Wars. One of Al Gore mansions is on the ocean and produces 10,000 times more CO2 then your average American. Fact. Yeah, I got an idea, why don't you keep watching TV and nodding right along with the rest of the Sheep. Like I said, you get out there and vote Hillary. She's got your back.
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"Washington" is a place, places are areas of land. The last I knew, land was inanimate. People provide clean air, water, etc... and guess do NOT do the work... Washington politicians Oh, and maybe you should tell the Iraqi mother's your ideas regarding clean air, land and water. Considering your beloved sociopaths in Washington have rained depleted uranium weapons on them for over a decade resulting in 70000 years of contaminated air land and water not to mention countless deformed human babies
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RE: Our government is made up of people voted into office. Voting doesn't make them different from any other group of people. You vote with your money each time you buy something from a private group of people. If a group of public "servants" want to do something, they, like anyone else - Have to pay people to do it. Unlike private groups of people, who actually need to please you to make money - the government shoves a gun in your face and says pay. That initiation of force is the difference.
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I do understand your point, I'm telling you, you are wrong. The GOP is THE SAME as the DEM. If anything, the DEM are worse given their propensity to use Government as a tool against the free citizens through regulation and the issuance of money. The Government IS the problem. We had a system, at one time (long long ago) where the courts and private property rights kept businesses in check. That was before the Government invented the "Corporation" to allow the owners to get away with murder.
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1) Apple's influence on our govt is enough. What influences are you referring to exactly? Notice that 'Apple' itself does nothing to you other than sell you an iPad. There is ONLY ONE organization of humans that can LEGALLY initiate an act of violence against you. That being eluded to in your sentence: govt
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So your solution is to? Murder them into loving you. Spoken like a true Social Democrat Progressive. What next? Hitler Youth?
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1) I don't bother with watching TV as it's pointless drool 2) Religion has no real sway over the republic and while I know a great deal about the superstitions that led to what we call Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc.. these are nearly inconsequential. 3) You worry about the right wingnuts? Why? Recent history suggests the various Progressive parties modeled on the German Social Democrat Party to be much more heinous. Socialists starved and murdered >750 million humans over the last 100 years
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'Elected Leaders'? You mean, elected SERVANTS. That aside, I'm not a Republican (I'm an atheist so I don't think I could join :P) however, I hope the nations breaks up. I would like to have a PEACEFUL segregation from people like Thom. Is that OK Thom? You OK with letting the public vote on peaceful succession? If not, what are you going to do to stop it?
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