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Comments by "Steve Watson" (@stevewatson6839) on "Why didn't Germany just attack the Caucasus by Sea to get the oil?" video.
Yeah, sure; Narvik is a short distance from Germany. It is BECAUSE it is a long distance they got away with it. We misread signals as Larvik further south and thought The Twins were going on an Atlantic raid.
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Not if a certain arse-whipe general hadn't been put out to grass or transferred to somewhere he couldn't get in the road. The same could be said of one or two other legends in their own lunchtime on the German side. The German General Staff has always been its' own worst enemy.
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4 destroyers; half of WW1 vintage; half of 1930 vintage; 1 submarine; 2 minelayers; half a dozen torpedo boats. Conways 'All the World's Fighting Ships 1922-46
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@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 The real spanner is the mountain range between Maikop, Grozny, and any port Jerry might seize. Absent the mountains it'd be worth a punt. Since we are talking Fall Blau they'd probably be leaving from the Crimea and keepin gto the coast. Since there are mountains in the way; it isn't worth the punt. Fall Gelb was the great gamble; 9 times in 10, Jerry would have been stopped in the Ardennes. We would have remained in Narvik; we would probably have attacked and seized the Gällivare iron mines in Sweden. Strangling Jerry's iron supplies was the whole point of Allied ops in Norway. That Jerry held the south would have been of no consequence. All irrelevant of course, Jerry ran out of rope when they fired the first shot.
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🤣🤣🤣 Go back and read it more closely: 9 times out of 10 if a historian doesn't use or reference what I know is a major source, re-reading that source makes a mess of that historian's argument in some way. I'm not saying that is what has happened here, but this is the most cursory post I think Lewis has ever put up.
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@ottovonbismarck2443 Dina fash; you were more right than wrong and I was nit-picking as much as providing fuller info. 😃
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@ottovonbismarck2443 I've seen far dafter things, but okay.Extra points for insisting!
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We are talking Fall Blau. Sevastopol has been captured; the Luftwaffe has air supremacy. More of an obstacle: there is a mountain range between the coast and Maikop/Grozny. In Italy with similar control, the Allies operated two army groups either side of the Appenines. They could probably capture a port; it would be much more difficult to break out from it.
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NB: Romanian Navy to Stalingrad - 4 destroyers; half of WW1 vintage; half of 1930 vintage; 1 submarine; 2 minelayers; half a dozen torpedo boats. Conways 'All the World's Fighting Ships 1922-46'. Unfortunately Churchill didn't realise the Turks couldn't give a stuff for Greeks who aren't dead. The friend of my enemy I should take a damn bit of notice of? Churchill was a muppet. The Soviet navy wasn't the Royal Navy. See the state the battleship we lent them came back in. Neither did the Soviets have a Malta in the middle of the Black Sea. They had a good number of subs; they were notably crap at using them. This the one thing constant of the Soviets/Russians to this day: they are noticeably craptastic to everyone except the most deluded tankie. Me, I'd have noticed all those barges and other amphibibious stuff pointlessly accumulated for the Sealion silliness and shipped it down the Rhine and Danube. This topic needs more thought; you are talking about Hitler and Musso; so it seems impracticable and stupid too you? Heads up; impracticable and stupid was A. H.'s middle name - and some of those 'impracticable and stupid' things he pulled off: Norway; France; etc.
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@viktorsalinovic7260 Yup; I couldn't quite recall his name when I wrote! 🙄
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Doesn't this fuck-up any German war from the start? Totally unrealistic; if it were true Barbarossa would probably have stalled before the end of June '41; certainly by the August.
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