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Being 60 years old, I'm probably too old to fight, unless I guess things get really desperate. Being something of an educated person anyway, I guess, even if I was younger, I would be deemed more useful, more efficiently and effectively disposed into some kind of desk job. For both these reasons then, it is somewhat difficult to construct a judgment with reasons here. That is an ambiguous statement of course: It is difficult to construct a reason in terms of facts because, at this point in time at least, it is probably still a very unlikely requirement for many people who would not normally want to enlist in the military anyway. For most people it is probably not even considered as possible career. For most people war is something to watch in a movie or in some horror on the news. In that sense war recollections for my generation and the previous one is an exchange of war movies or events in the News. You have to go back two generations before conscription is a thing a necessity not a possibility, and I imagine there are not many left now with a memory of War on the the kind of scale from World War 2.
I have talked at length to soldiers from World War Two particularly an officer on the Dunkerque beach evacuation, and an artillery soldier at Monte Cassio. There is another person with a much more extreme experience even than those but they never talked about it. War experience for the following generation though is not unknown. From the 1950's though to the 1980's I've talked to some of them at great length socially and worked with them on buildign sites and factories.
More recently I have spoken but do not know some soldiers from recent wars from the 1990's to now. They had very different recollections and attitudes towards it than the others. It maybe because more recent generations are not so taciturn about there memories or maybe its that they were worse or closer in age top me. One I met walking home and we began talking about the army and he ended up telling me all about Wittgenstein and the Bruschelov Offensive of the Eastern Front of World War One. It was the first lesson when he went to military collage in Germany. He was very bitter about the whole thing, as was a very disturbed man I met in a pub. They had returned to country that didn’t seem to hold much value and respect for their bravery. That it was all about the “Tony Blare Illegal War” discourse. They were unemployed and one was definitely psychologically unemployable. I did meet one though who was well disposed to depart back into battle.
So to get back to the question of judgement and reasons: firstly we are dependent on trusting higher authorities for “objective reasons” not just in terms of facts and intelligence, but in terms of present and past honesty in there stations and roles, disposing of their public duty properly and sincerely. You know what if it’s a rich man trick: the rich make money create massive inequality cause chaos around the world after the 1990’s and expect to get the poor in this country to fight the wars of consequence, where they are off to an island somewhere. It could be dismissed as a lefty and conspiracy world view I guess. In this kind of propagandising, all the heroic stories from past generations will be amassed as so much friendly fire to entice people to be Heroes (Hero come from Greek or medieval root as does Heroin listen to the Velvet Underground Song or David Bowie) One discourse predictably doing the rounds on GM News is the question of “Will the Snowflake Generation be upto fighting the Russian Army?”. This was dealt with very effectively on GB News, by a guy from the “other” You Tube channel “Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, a couple of nights ago. I can’t add anything more to what he said in his exchange. They have probably posted it by now. It made me proud to watch him take his opposing “man siren” out.
I had indeed began to think that the Woke thing was a middle class trigger for poor working class white men: you know “If you are unsure if you are a man or a women or a trans or a mangina, then prove it by going to fight a war in that traditional patriarchal role. You are either for the trans men or a soldier. Look non white men are fighting are you like them or a middleclass Culture studies snowflake? Get off of your computer war games and be real “The ladies are going to love it” (That’s a line from “The Mummy” remake, of a remake, of a remake, back to the Pelopenetian wars and beyond)
Secondly the judgment and reason for me is a bit of a Kantian Categorical Violation by contingency of non universality, I will probably never have to conform to my maxim of “yes everybody must be ready to fight”. Indeed the middleclass generally do not, and if they do are officers because of special rarer skills and education, those “above” them just leave the country, they were only here for the money anyway it contingent and defeasible, as a middleclass educated person might say. There’s so0emthign deeply disingenuous about the rich and middle class doing what Owen James called “Cosplay Soldiering”. Any way his targets head seems to have stopped spinni9ng now and is facing the right direction quietly.
That all said, and congenially in line with the far left’s hermeneutics of suspicion and counter to German Romantic Idealism of the Heroic Napoleonic enlightenment soldier, there is a realism the left seem unable to see grasp and assent judgment to: there are bad people out there, and they can be organised into a State with an modern technological military. War is real it cannot be deconstructed with collection of Post structuralist texts.
Obviously written in a rush this morning so charity for spelling grammar and even errors. I thank you and look forward to your discussion
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