Comments by "Rutvik" (@rutvikrs) on "Kejriwal: Ready to work with Centre to improve healthcase, education, stop calling these freebies" video.

This is the scariest speech i have heard. So many lies, so many unachievable dreams and people are buying it.
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@rishabhkhatri education does not generate trade. I actually wrote one paper on remittance economy for my PhD and one for problems with education in India at a consulting firm 11 years ago. Still rings true be it BJP(except Gujarat) or AAP.
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He is not happy making electricity free, he also wants free education and healthcare. Governments of developed countries went bankrupt pursuing these policies. 🤦
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@shauryaparihar8364 i happen to be an economist who did his thesis on remittance economy. I don't want India ending up as one. 🤷‍♂️
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@elizabethvarghese5511 which is never sufficient for any form of welfare. No country has good free healthcare unless it's backed by a sovereign wealth fund or oil money, neither of which we have.
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1. Modi is slowly waking up to the welfare burden. Better late than never. 2. Education without industrial base= remittance economy= governance suicid3.
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All I heard were lies, lack of pragmatism and a road to bankruptcy.
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@shauryaparihar8364 is preventing idpol is your number one objective or is development of the country? They are separate things.
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@Vizorfam Modi is doing the right thing. INR has kept the demand by his actions, compare it to our neighbourhood.
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I keep telling people in professional capacity, education without an industrial base is suicide. First world expectations with third world facilities.
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Which country developed this way?
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@saviosebastian124 please read this thread. Don't want to copy paste everywhere.
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@rishabhkhatri read it and then please educate me what is different about Delhi's policy or any other states. All are heading towards a remittance economy. For the record , i worked with this bunch during the IAC days. Had to leave IAC and avoid AAP due to falling on deaf ears. It pains me that my prediction on Indonesia and India has come true. BJP, regional parties and congress are no better. 1.India has never had a concerted definition let alone a literacy policy. Literacy means being able to read, write, count and understand basic things like contracts and sources of information. What we have had is an education policy, which is a battleground for the old BA graduation vs new science education. That is why every syllabus in our country is a battle between linguistic proficiency(Poetry and formal prose from famous authors of language) and applied PMB(Physics, maths and Biology). There is zero emphasis on practical education and conduct. Tell me how many literate people can open a bank A/c by themselves or deal with officials at govt offices? As damaging as it already is, schools actively avoid and even demonise money. When a street vendor has better people, negotiation and budgeting skills than a post graduate/doctoral student, you are in trouble. 2. There is nothing wrong with education but to give you an analogy it is the tadka to a dal. It gives taste but cannot be consumed by itself. Just like that education can give you direction if you are sure about the purpose. Instead we as a society have inverted the equation. We seek education based on reputation or economic opportunity and then try to find purpose.(Beta engineering karlo uske baad photographer/Musician/artist Bano)
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@rishabhkhatri 3. We need to create systems that serve 80% of the people but our education is focused on setting up careers for 15%-30%. Engineers, doctors, Journalists and academics. This is why you end up with disinterested students regardless of quality of colleges. Because of a crowd that is not interested, the administrations face pressure to get these kids to do well because the parents pay fees. Even with the best attempts, the best colleges can create a maximum crowd of 20% who are employable(rest cant apply themselves as they are allocated to the wrong streams by their interest). If you have been to a college in the west you will see a higher percentage of interested students(70-80%) and the standards rise. 4. The high number of graduates leads to dilution or sameness which in turn leads to people seeking higher degrees to distinguish themselves( doctors doing MD and Engineers seeking MS). Your best talent hyperspecializes to sectors that don't have avenues in the nation. Which in turn leads to talent flight 5. The predominant social fiction we live by, even more so today is that young people need to start companies. we are copying the outliers of the west like Gates and Zuck. But the major bulk of entrepreneurship comes from people aged 40-50 yrs even in the most developed countries. Because they have gone though the Intern-SME-Team lead-manager-middle management-higher management cycle. They have industry experience, understanding of markets, people management, budget management, industry contacts and operational experience. Even a late 30 yr old cannot be expected to have these skills and they fall prey to investor greed.
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@rishabhkhatri 6.This leads to two types of start ups we get to see in India, low profit overcharging, gimmicky, marketing based, generic companies(organic food, niche textiles) or inexperienced copied tech which ctrl c+v foreign models like Zomato, Ola and the likes. There is not a single business model/sector that India generates and world copies. 7. There is no respect for the process of death of companies. The talent base for Apple, Microsoft were built on the decaying parts of IBM and their decaying businesses in turn fed Alphabet(Google), Amazon, FB and other tech giants. Tesla built on the inactive patents of NASA and dying American automobile sector. Netflix was built on a massive pile of rejected Hollywood scripts. One visionary ubermensch does not create a company, it requires a talent base of experienced SMEs, middle managers and directors.
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@rishabhkhatri 8.The only remedial path is to build literacy that allows a huge demography of literates to start low value businesses that have low barrier of entry. If you enable just 20-30% of people to do this, you will create secondary demand like language experts(to write technical and marketing docs for different languages), marketing, research, consultancy etc that Germany/Japan/Korea/China has today. 9. Instead of this, our society wants to create a country filled with engineers, academics and doctors for the foreign markets. We end up losing the young cream of our society over and over again. IITs have hardly 50-100 students who want to stay back in India and we expect miracles from them.
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@rishabhkhatri 10. This phenomenon is called elite overproduction where your society keeps on investing into the top 5-10% to artificially overproduce a certain class or profession(look up Cuban taxi drivers earning more than doctors on Vice for an example). 11. The next stage for countries that refuse to meet supply where demand level is at is called a remittance economy(Phillipines, Sri Lanka, Italy and CIS countries). These countries eke out an existance by people who work abroad. The inherent danger for these countries is their political stability depends on remittances. If there is a situation where remittances drop(due to change in nationality long term or short term events like drop in currency which happened with Lanka), the economic levers of the country collapse and it's left with society with low skill and economic value dependent on the state.
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@rishabhkhatri 12. Due to pressure from society, political parties emphasise education policy instead of literacy. BJP is guilty of that(despite governing the Gujju society that has become one of the most developed and industrialised without any emphasis on higher education) but AAP and CPI have it on overdrive. They are increasing the elite overproduction from 10% of Congress to 30%. This upper crust will eventually seek a better life in already developed but under populated countries like Canada or Austrailia, while the 70% will be left bearing the cost in the future.
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@rishabhkhatri your angry replies show how ideological you are. And yes I certainly know more than those organisations. They reach out to people like me.
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@rishabhkhatri all you have typed on this thread are bad attempts at an insult. I don't think you understand the gravity of these topics nor do you understand those "accolades". You are getting personally offended like someone took your livelihood away. Nothing to gain by engaging in your types. Adios.
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@rishabhkhatri ok. Aur kuch hagna baki hai? Btw you have not even read what I posted. You are a Kejri bhakt who has convinced himself that some miracle has happened. Read the primary sources and what was said and who said it. There is no methodological innovation in the model, only an emphasis on improving pass percentages(which they are failing at) and conducting seminars. It's something my state has had for two decades now.
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They don't even have hospitals or colleges maga. Bengluru college dalli arda students malayali, Coimbatore dalli arda patients malayali. Avaru illi irodinda problem illa. But when people say Kerala is more educated. 🤦
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@rishabhkhatri do you want a serious answer? Maine ek paper likha tha for a prominent multinational consulting firm comparing India and Indonesia. Also I have a career in economics, which is a dhang ka career. Taking this entire year off so time hai. 🤣
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@rishabhkhatri that does not seem like a good metric. I appreciate the efforts they take like extra classes but need to see how they sustain the deficit. But how education will resolve India's problems is the concern to me.
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@saviosebastian124 where is the industrial base to support the jobs for those graduates? More graduates don't lead to business.
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@rishabhkhatri education has an 18 year lag on impact assessment at the very least. Sociologists.and pedagologists take 20 year chunks. Can't gauge impact based on exam results.
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Europe is not some underdeveloped backwater, they are sitting on generational institutional old money. Their governments hold trust funds, patents and looted artefacts they can auction off to prevent bankruptcy. Ffs what he is saying is scary. I thought he was an idealist till i got to work with him. He is a loonie with an ego and ideology.
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@saviosebastian124 that is factually false. Delhi has had a revenue surplus every year in the last decade, in fact the highest revenue surplus was under Sheila Dixit.
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@SoumitraKhirpai (I literally wrote a paper on this for a multinational consultancy firm in 2011, little has changed) 1. Industries are not set up by PhDs. You are thinking of the last stage of development or niche sectors.It starts with low end work like assembly and bottom chain manufacturing like ceramics and plastics. You don't even need education for these. 2. India has never had a concerted definition let alone a literacy policy. Literacy means being able to read, write, count and understand basic things like contracts and sources of information. What we have had is an education policy, which is a battleground for the old BA graduation vs new science education. That is why every syllabus in our country is a battle between linguistic proficiency(Poetry and formal prose from famous authors of 2/3 languages) and applied PMB(Physics, maths and Biology). There is zero emphasis on practicals, applications and transactions. Tell me how many literate people can open a bank A/c by themselves or deal with officials at govt office, write a formal letter without guidance? As damaging as it already is, schools actively avoid and even demonise money. When a street vendor has better people negotiation and budgeting skills than a post graduate/doctoral student, you are in trouble. 3. There is nothing wrong with education but to give you an analogy it is the tadka to a dal. It gives taste but cannot be consumed by itself. Just like that education can give you direction if you are sure about the purpose. Instead we as a society have inverted the equation. We seek education based on reputation or economic opportunity and then try to find purpose.(Beta engineering karlo uske baad photographer/Musician/Lawyer/academic Bano)
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@SoumitraKhirpai 4. We need to create systems that serve 80% of the people but our education is focused on setting up careers for 15%-30%. Engineers, doctors, Journalists and academics. This is why you end up with disinterested students regardless of quality of colleges. Because of a crowd that is not interested, the administrations face pressure to get these kids to do well because the parents pay fees. Even with the best attempts, the best colleges can create a maximum crowd of 20% who are employable(rest cant apply themselves as they are allocated to the wrong streams by their interest). If you have been to a college in the west you will see a higher percentage of interested students(70-80%) and the standards rise. 5. The high number of graduates leads to dilution or sameness which in turn leads to people seeking higher degrees to distinguish themselves( doctors doing MD and Engineers seeking MS). Your best talent hyperspecializes to sectors that don't have avenues in the nation. Which in turn leads to talent flight 6. The predominant social fiction we live by, even more so today is that young people need to start companies. we are copying the outliers of the west like Gates and Zuck. But the major bulk of entrepreneurship comes from people aged 40-50 yrs even in the most developed countries. Because they have gone though the Intern-SME-Team lead-manager-middle management-higher management cycle. They have industry experience, understanding of markets, people management, budget management, industry contacts and operational experience. Even a late 30 yr old cannot be expected to have these skills and they fall prey to investor greed.
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@SoumitraKhirpai 7. This leads to two types of start ups we get to see in India, low profit overcharging, gimmicky, marketing based, generic companies(organic food, niche textiles) or inexperienced copied tech which ctrl c+v foreign models like Zomato, Ola and the likes. There is not a single business model/sector that India generates and world copies. 8. There is no respect for the process of death of companies. The talent base for Apple, Microsoft were built on the decaying parts of IBM and their decaying businesses in turn fed Alphabet(Google), Amazon, FB and other tech giants. Tesla built on the inactive patents of NASA and dying American automobile sector. Netflix was built on a massive pile of rejected Hollywood scripts. One visionary ubermensch does not create a company, it requires a talent base of experienced SMEs, middle managers and directors.
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@SoumitraKhirpai 9. The only remedial path is to build literacy that allows a huge demography of literates to start low value businesses that have low barrier of entry. If you enable just 20-30% of people to do this, you will create secondary demand like language experts(to write technical and marketing docs for different languages), marketing, research, consultancy etc that Germany/Japan/Korea/China has created today. 10. Instead of this, our society wants to create a country filled with engineers, academics and doctors for the foreign markets. We end up losing the young cream of our society over and over again. IITs have hardly 50-100 students who want to stay back in India and we expect miracles from them.
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@SoumitraKhirpai 11. This phenomenon is called elite overproduction where your society keeps on investing into the top 5-10% to artificially overproduce a certain class or profession(look up Cuban taxi drivers earning more than doctors on Vice for an example). 12. The next stage for countries that refuse to meet supply where demand level is at is called a remittance economy(Phillipines, Sri Lanka, Italy and CIS countries). These countries eke out an existance by people who work abroad. The inherent danger for these countries is their political stability depends on remittances. If there is a situation where remittances drop(due to change in nationality long term or short term events like drop in currency which happened with Lanka), the economic levers of the country collapse and it's left with society with low skill and economic value dependent on the state. 13. Due to pressure from society, political parties emphasise education policy instead of literacy. BJP is guilty of that(despite governing the Gujju society that has become one of the most developed and industrialised without any emphasis on higher education) but AAP and CPI have it on overdrive. They are increasing the elite overproduction from 10% of Congress to 30%. This upper crust will eventually seek a better life in already developed but under populated countries like Canada or Austrailia, while the 70% will be left bearing the cost in the future.
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@shauryaparihar8364 please read the thread above. My last response to you lacked details. It's long but hopefully will clear up my position on why India should not be prioritising the education system as it stands. Fixing the education system will be a 15 year effort at minimum.
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@rishabhkhatri qualitatively baat karo, you have not even heard the details of my position. Why so predisposed on a topic you have not analysed? If you want i can copy pasta the response. Padhne ke baad criticise karo.
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