Comments by "Rutvik" (@rutvikrs) on "Meaning of the rise of AAP, now India’s most successful political startup ever" video.

They are not any different from Congress my friend. People forget that Congress had its "Hindu" phases as well. The reason they gravitated towards the Muslim votebank was it's reliability. Aap is much too young to make such calculations(any loss is marginal, any win is game changing). The moment AAP has to reliably win elections, they will have their Hindu and Muslim phases. Kejriwal has already shown glimpses of it after the Janmabhoomi verdict and even in the Punjab elections(promises for an Anti conversion bill)
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@MM-ue4ol literally everything you said is wrong. 1. BJP is working on structural change in economics. It's benefits will be seen in 10-20 year horizon. GST, Bankruptcy bill and many other reforms are in this direction. They should be critiqued for bad implimentation. But "doing the right thing badly"(BJP) is not the same as "doing the bad thing correctly"(Congress and AAP) 2. Economic reforms lead to social change. Social reform is a byproduct of the change. No country developed economically because of egalitarian movements. Name one social movement that led to formation of businesses and economies. 3. We are a third world country if i am not mistaken. At our stage of development it's always the case that it is dominated by a govt fuelled oligarchy which creates an industrial base. In every single developed country this is the case. Examples: Japan(Zaibatstu like Mitsubishi, Toyota, Kawasaki) Korea( Chebol like LG, Samsung, SK Honda) and even communist China( businesses associated with Shanghai clique)
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@anshuraj4277 the Brits left behind a pro British government/leader/structure from each place they "freed". Why did they choose to make India the exception? 🤔 I want to be educated. Please let me know.
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They are going to take Punjab to the gutters. AAP should have ideally won a smaller state like Goa, Uttarakhand or even Manipur. Here is how I make the claim: 1. AAP is inherently wedded to the idea of Nordic Social democracy ie focus on socialized healthcare, education and high end enterpreneurship. 2. Punjab is in a situation where most of its society is reluctant to see agriculture is no longer viable. Aap has made a Faustian deal with the agricultural elites to get power. 3. They don't even realise the pickle they are in. In the case of Delhi, their narratives work because it's an urbanizer UT. (Corporates corrupting a govt system; public vs corporates; education as an exit point for poverty). None of these work in Agrarian Punjab. The social elite in Punjab(Rich land holding farmers) cannot be dealt with like in Delhi (corporates taxed and weeded out) Education in a city with existing businesses is surely a solution for poverty, not in Agrarian communities where they would want to keep land productive even if they get jobs. 4. They have pandered a LOT in this election(free water, electricity). Who will fund it? They have even proposed an anti conversion bill which points to the influence of religious elite as well. How will they balance it? 5. Talent flight in Punjabi elite is already huge. Will AAP's focus on education make things worse or better? Will 90% of graduates want to work as farmers or will there be even more talent flight.?
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@anshuraj4277 sir you seem to be very well read given your thorough reply. I just want to point out, 1. India- Soviet relations only got good in 55 when Kruschev was around. At the time of independance, Stalin was around and did not view India's political system let alone parties and individuals in favourable light. TLDR: India had to get close to USSR due to the events and discussions that precede Suez crisis. 2. You did not answer a very simple question, why did the British choose to not place their Stooges in power when our event of independance was a planned transer of power and not a coup?
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Meanwhile all evidence and indicators point to massive structural issues, irrespective of who's in power. But yes. Him Indians hai, naarebaazi se chala lenge.
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@rocket5544 ask Dhruv Rathee to make some YouTube shorts out of my comment.
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He is a nightmare. Unless he is willing to junk his liberalism and obsession with Nordic Social democracy, He will get chewed up on geopolitics and economics. Just like the Congress.
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@anshuraj4277 how are Nazis and British on the same side? Please start a youtube channel, we need to make your knowledge reach the world.
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@tony-pc4kd can you provide some citation/ literature comparing the two? Also where is the reply. You are literally regurgitating without reference. Show me how any country developed without a phase of crony capitalism.
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@rocket5544 your outsourced mental capacity.
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@MM-ue4ol 1. If all of these policies are sensationalism, why do they have use cases and past precedence? Are you refuting UPA 1 and 2 had several botched efforts at GST? (2005 Kelkar task force, 2009 Pranab Mukherjee proposal, 2011 proposed 115th constitutional amendment) It's like having a bunch of geniuses slug it out for a decade with no progress and then a proverbial idiot does the work. Id choose that idiot over the counsel of rhetoricists. 2. I will dare to say it to every person, be it front or back of the line. We have been sold narratives that are more suited to developed economies. Even communist CCP had to abandon it's ideals and go for sweatshops for the sake of industrialisation. I repeat tell me an egalitarian movement that has led to a successful industry. Answer: none I am not questioning utility or normativity of egalitarian movements. Simply pointing that they are the effect not the cause. 3. It's not a question of good or bad. It is a demonstrable model of development, make an social elite, pressure them into donating(US with Ford, Fairbanks, Carnagie) or tax inheritence(hot topic in Korean politics now) and then spread that wealth. But people want to skip all the hard parts and jump into the list bit aka first world policies for third world country, how is that supposed to work?
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@Enchantedsqaure nehru chacha and Gandhi gave freedum 2 universe from Bretesh umpire. If you say no, you are facyst which came from Nazi. Also Hitler was a Brahmin Baniya. 😡 Ztill ther are some stupid pepuls in India who vote BZP. Even after forin scienctist prove Nazi came from Brahmin Baniya. 🤦
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@tony-pc4kd oh my, where do we start. Shah Bano case, Haj subsidy, RTE exception to minority institutions, section 40, 83, 92, 101, 107 of Wakf act 1955. This is just the legal side of appeasment.
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@frostbyte4987 good try buddy. 1991reforms were a response to a balance of payment crisis. India faced sanctions. Funniest part is MMS is called the architect of the reform when his role was implementation of suggestions by WTO. 🤦
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@frostbyte4987 1. You almost had me there. Your comment implies that the past governments were running at full efficiency on a reformist agenda while the current govt has broken it down. Devil is in the details though, Could you let me know for instance when was GST first discussed and what happened with it? 2. I am genuinely not aware of what free trade agreements India got into durng UPA 1 and 2. Could you name the most prominent/sucessful one so that I can look into it? Afaik, number of FTAs is not a barometer. It's qualitative impacts are. For example the ongoing negotiations for Trade agreement between EU-India and UK-India are much more valuable and contested than say one with Afghanistan and Nepal. 3. India attracted $81 bn last financial year with 40%~ going towards IT and Service sectors (which India is known for) what is the other 60% for?
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@meera2531 i used to set aside 20% of my salary for retirement and 30% to buy a new home. I don't do that anymore, i have a lot of money to spend to improve my quality of life. -AAPs model in a nutshell. Diverting funds from capacity building to expenditure is not an achievement.
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@meera2531 it's quite telling that the response is a personal attack. If you feel this is a sanghi position, look up caravan's article on who pays for Aapse schemes. 🤣
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@tony-pc4kd because they want to live in India and they resent that due to our substandard politics to they can't pursue their career here? 🤔
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@MM-ue4ol 1. I reviewed all my comments, where on earth did I ask for social elites? The term i used is "oligarchy" which has a definite meaning. 2. I knew you would reduce my model to "trickle down" economics. Here let me present a communist framework. Engels in his book, The German Ideology; identifies the role of capitalism in transformation of a feudal society to an "Industrial society". The defining feature of Industrial society is that, its workers are not only skilled, but have the ability to manage and rebel( "you don't want my solution? Let me go to your competitor/l will start my own company). Further availability of capital enables the industrial society to have levels of operating independence that is unheard of in a feudal society. 3. Capitalism that is controlled by democracy is better? 🤣. Let me know what will happen in this scenario. The industry has collapsed, only way for the company to survive is cut 80% of its workforce. What will people vote for?
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@MM-ue4ol 1. There seems to be issues with comprehension when one cannot discern between an observation and proposal. Read the same point again. I have issues with "social progress" as much as I have with chewing gum before removing the wrapper(sequence matters). 2. Chaebol in Korea, Zaibatsu in Japan. 3. Lol set up a strawman and then defend it. I used Engels of all people to explain that it's not trickle down economics. We are not discussing taxing the rich(subject matter of trickledown economics), it's about how industrialisation creates real world specialization leading to product, old money and breaking of social structure. (All Marxist ideas btw) 4. Feudalism- Mercantalism- Capitalism- Socialism- Communism. This is the established progression within academia and social sciences since Marx. Presence of money or trade does not make a feudal society capitalistic. Similarly, the presence of social schemes does not make a capitalistic country into a socialistic one. There is no pure capitalism, socialism or communism anywhere in the world but there is an operating norm. Going by the harebrained "feudal society had industries", look up what industrialisation means. If we still go by your framing India was industrialized at least 3000 years ago. 5. This is called Protestant historiography aka viewing the world as a permanent struggle between powers that be and the people resulting in slow ascent of liberalism. If that was the case, the difference between isolated Sentinelese tribe and the west is ability to protest and engage in social reform. It's the combination of resources, technology and finally access. Tomorrow if civilization collapsed, women rights would suffer the most because we would not have the first 2 preconditions to provide access. no amount of protesting or social movements would bring back women's rights. it's the function that dictates the form, not the other way around. 6. You have successfully demonstrated you have no idea what industrial revolution was. The only reason the technology became viable is because it was for the first time in history, economically viable. 7. Again, you cannot discern between an observation and proposal? If you can't please present me how you plan to supercede the developmental stage?
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@meera2531 1. BJP is like an gawar who saves 50% of their income to buy house, shares and retirement funds while mismanaging (let's be charitable to you) 40%. AAP is the same age group, saves zero and infact gets themselves a credit card. Today shows they have cash in bank. This is what you are celebrating. Guess who i trust. 2. You may feel this is new innovation, sorry to break it to you this is just UPA 2 minus the Gandhi's. AAP may have taken corruption out, the the more damaging aspect was infiltration of interest groups and expensive exchequer. 3. Caravan is an Ambedkarite/Leftist media portal. 🤣 You can shove those high ideals where the sun don't shine when you can't pay for it. Look what happened in Spain and Greece. We are headed there if policies like that are enacted. 4. You can educate anyone if you can choose to understand the other perspective and deal with it. But all you seem to do is practiced rhetoric.
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@anshuraj4277 RSS was inspired politically by Italian Fascists, not Nazis. So was Bose. You are mixing up the two. What beholds RSS today to that book?
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@anshuraj4277 "I would say we have here in this policy and program a synthesis of what modern Europe calls Socialism and Fascism. We have here the justice, the equality, the love, which is the basis of Socialism, and combined with that we have the efficiency and the discipline of Fascism as it stands in Europe" - April 15th, 1931. Inaugural speech as the Mayor of Calcutta "Indian politics must have an authoritarian character. ... To repeat once again, our philosophy should be a synthesis between National Socialism and Communism," November 2, 1944. Tokyo University. "So long as there is a third party, ie the British, these dissensions will not end. These will go on growing. They will disappear only when an iron dictator rules over India for 20 years. For a few years at least, after the end of British rule in India, there must be a dictatorship...No other constitution can flourish in this country and it is so to India's good that she shall be ruled by a dictator, to begin with." - Singapore Daily 1944 These quotes are from Bose himself. Fascism was admired by groups seeking Independance from colonialism and did not carry the stigma it does post WW2. No member of RSS let alone right wing in India is beholden to the ideas or Zeitgeist of the past. If fascism is the ultimate objective, 7 years is sufficient time to impliment it. They have not. It seems only select liberal heroes are exempt from the critique and context.
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@bloodwargaming3662 want to get into the details? I don't mind that at all.
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@mac900282660 that hot take is a very bad reading of Indian politics. People are not wedded to the idea of criminals or pomp. They are functions of feudal society. Street power(what you called criminals) and feudal model of leadership(pompous power) are it's symptoms. There is a significant shift away from Street power to begin with. Most prominently seen in death of local parties. Pompous power will take a long time(even Kejri had built his own cult of personality, ousted dissidents and turned authoritarian within his party. This is not his fault. It's a function of society.) It's undeniable that society is changing. And politics will follow suit.
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