Youtube comments of Jessica Dainese (@JessicaDainese).
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So us Europeans are right when we say most Americans are ignorant? I spent a year in the USA as an exchange student. American highschools are kindergardens compared to Italian ones, and Italy is still below Northern Europe. In Italian highschools we study philosophy, law, civics, literature, languages, arts, sciences, math, geography, history etc. American highschools are all about sports and proms 😂
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@yvesleduc7860 in Italy the revolution was much less quiet in the 60s and 70s. Today we have the lowest marriage rate in Europe/ one of the lowest in the world, one of the lowest birthrates in the world (1.2), most "families" are monofamilies (singles, with cats and dogs), and practicing catholics are around 10% and mostly very old people. I live in the North, in Padova, which is among the top cities for singles, leftists, students, atheists. Things are a bit different in a place like Sicily, obviously. But my mother, in the 60s, was listening to the Beatles, wearing tiny miniskirts and hotpants, reading feminist books, definitely not religious, and my dad was a communist with long hair. They were both from small rural towns in Veneto, and they were not rich nor University students. So this behavior was not only common among the "elites", it was common among low middle class, working class, rural class youth. They got divorce laws approved, legal abortions, free birth control, reform of family laws and lots more. They changed Italian society forever. If there ever was a "catholic morality" in Italy, it was dead by the 60s. I think in the North it was never strong anyway. I can not wait till religion is wiped out of Italy completely.
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There are few people I hate more than Elon Musk, for a number of reasons. He is building a mansion here in Italy about 3 hours from where I live. I am pretty sure he has bought a few of our politicians, Meloni is one for sure. She invited him to her Party Fratelli d'Italia convention. Musk is not popular here, most Italians either hate him or do not know him/ are indifferent. But if he is building a home here, and plan on staying, that will be very dangerous for our democracy. I do not think these monsters can ruin Europe as they ruined Latin America, but the last coup attempts in Italy happened in the 60s/70s, so I do not trust it can not happen again. I am just glad I am 49 and childfree. The future is not bright at all, but at least neither me nor my non existing children will have to suffer. My sister, most of my cousins, and all of my friends are childfree too. Musk is really worried about low birthrates in Italy, Japan and other countries and that gives me great pleasure 😂 not having children is the best revenge to capitalists. They need many poor people to exploit. Lets give them none. Let the rich have all the kids.
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Italy stands with Germany!! ❤ No more backstabbing, the Italian government needs to decide what side they are on. 3 parties are in the current coalition: one is pro-EU, pro-Ukraine; one anti both (they have 8% of the vote, so we can ignore them) and FdI is a bit confused atm because Meloni thought she could have her cake and eat it too. I dont like her (I vote Left), but she is a smart, cunny, woman who has being in politics since she was a teenager. She knows that turning her back on Ukraine and the EU would be her demise. Public opinion in Italy is absolutely against Trump and Musk and everything they stand for. Even the few catholics left agree with the pope stance against Trump. I hope Germany will soon be strong and become the leader in European defence. Probably with France, Polonia and, if they re-join the European family, the UK. Btw, I am from Veneto, our economy depends on Germany's economy alot, in industry, tourism etc. Veneto and Germany have a great relation. German tourists have enjoyed our thermal facilities and beaches for decades. They are the biggest admirers of our Prosecco and other wines. I love our brothers and sisters in Germany ❤
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The UK is not "Europe". There are many countries in Europe that have no problems with Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. My country, Italy, is actually quite pro-Russia, we have no problems with China, we refused to have nuclear weapons decades ago (of course the USA keep some of theirs here anyway, against Italians' will), and our Constitution does not allow wars of aggression. Unless the USA try to coup us too, Italy (and most of Europe) is not going to join the USA and the UK in any war. Btw, the USA did try a few times to make a coup happen in Italy during the Cold War, but always failed. Is there a country the USA never messed up?
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@danamarie8718 It is related. I mean, not having children is a million times better for the planet than recycling, using public transport instead of cars, limiting travels by planes, etc. I am not in favor of imposing women to not have children, like I am against imposing women to have children. It's her choice and should always be her choice. But I am absolutely in favor of educating people of the disasters the planet AND the human race WILL face in the near future because of overpopulation. If we reduce the world's population we have maybe a chance future generations will have a decent life. If we do nothing or even promote pro-natalist agendas like many governments are doing today (like here in Italy, in Japan, South Korea etc), the climate catastrophy will happen sooner and maybe humanity will not survive. It is baffling to us Europeans how little the USA government cares about environment. It is also baffling that American presidential campaigns focus on religion (even in Italy, with the Vatican so close to Rome, NO politician, right, center, or left ever talks about "god" or Christianity during political campains), abortion (yes, Meloni is trying to make abortion more difficult to get for women, but nobody is talking about banning abortion in 2024. The few anti choice organizations doing propaganda in Italy are promoted and paid by, guess which country? Yes, the USA!! The vast majority of Italians are pro-choice), and LGBTQ+ hate (especially hate for trans people, who are what? 1% of the population?? Why so much hate for a tiny minority of people? Why are the campaigns not focused on poverty, poor workers protection, people going bankrupt because of medical or student debt, homelessness, police brutality especially towards non whites, creating a decent welfare system with free healthcare and free education like we have in Europe? Maybe discuss things like UBI, the role of robotics and AI in the near future especially to help aging populations, legalization of drugs (especially the less harmful ones), a radical change in foreign politics (stop American "interference" in other countries, ie coups, propaganda, assassinations, terrorism, and of course, WARS), and in their attitude towards climate change and the environment. They avoid all these topics, brushing them under the carpet, because if all people realized how bad the situation is in the world, of course many more people would stop having children. What good, rational, sane person would bring a child into this hell? But they do not tell the masses how bad things really are, because they NEED (capitalism needs) an ever growing number of poor workers to exploit, of poor people to send to die in senseless wars, of consumers to buy their useless junk. Oh and I forgot to add that the USA is one of the worst countries for violent crimes (Italy is the safest in the world), with one of the biggest prison population, and they still have the dealth penalty (unlike every single EU country. Seriously, asking people to really think before having kids if it is a good idea for their future child, is just common sense. Climate change or not.
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@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet you think Americans have MORE freedom of speech than Europeans? 😂 I am sorry to shatter your view of the USA as "the land of the free", but I have lived in Italy, the UK, and the USA, and Americans are not more free than Europeans. They are just more free to die if they can not afford healthcare, free to die in a school shooting, free to live on the streets or in their cars if they are homeless, free to work 2 jobs with no workers rights, no paid vacations, no maternity/ paternity leave, free to spend hours in a car because you have no public transport, free to pay your huge student debts while we go to University for free... did I forget any freedom? 😂
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@Calculus1981 the problem is the opposite of "feminism". It's in countries that used to be very patriarchial (and still are, in culture even if the laws have become more pro-woman in some cases): Italy, Spain, Japan, South Korea etc. In these countries, wives and mothers are/were expected to do everything regarding childcare, housework etc. Since my generation (1975) we have said no, enough is enough. No marriage, no children. The men need to change, if they dont want Italy to disappear. Personally I am antinatalist, so I dont care if italians disappear. But some do care, and the solution is MORE feminism/equity. Like in France and in North Europe, were both parents are involved, not just mothers (and birthrates are definitely higher). To put all pressures on mothers is a big mistake and will not change low birthrates. The men doing half of childcare and housework might.
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@Thesaved101 the point is, Europeans are not nearly as stressed as Americans. No European goes bankrupt because of medical expenses. No European has huge student debt. No European can be fired at will. Very few mothers and infants die in Europe compared to America. Europeans have paid maternity and paternity leave, and 4 or more weeks of paid vacation. You might be lucky, but millions of Americans are not as lucky as you. I am "poor" compared to the average American salary, but my standards of living are 100% better in Italy. We also have real, good, often organic food here, not poison. I know you can buy decent organic food in the USA, but only wealthy people can afford it. I know because I have lived in the USA. In Italy good, fresh, healthy food is cheap. And I don't need a car either, because I can move by train, bus, tram, even airplane for cheap. Or I can walk or bike for free 😂 So if I drink too much wine, I can take public transport and get home safe. And as a woman, I feel safe to go out at night by myself, because we have basically zero violent crime in Italy. You can see why we have much less stress over here.
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@davidmorgan6896 I think Americans are finding out they have been given a bad deal in their country, based on the number of Americans (especially older people and families) moving to European countries like Italy, Spain, Portugal etc in the last few years. I find funny, but also sad, that poor Italians, especially from the South, used to emigrate to the USA for a better life, especially in late 1800 and early 1900, and now Americans are moving to Italy because we have better living standards, one of the best healthcare systems in the world (a public, mostly free one, but also a private one if you prefer), better schools (again, public ones that are free, or private ones if you choose to pay), better and cheaper food etc. They are also running away from Trump. I asked them why they do not fear Meloni, and, to Americans, Meloni is basically a moderate conservative compared to Trump. They also move to Europe because it is a much safer place than the USA. No public shootings here. No school shootings ever in the history of Italy. The USA has really become a hellhole.
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If you accept some advice from an Italian woman: 1) do what the 4B movement in South Korea does. Do not marry men, do not have children, and if you want to go even harder, do not even date nor have sex with men. 2) use contraception and teach sex ed to both girls and boys, but especially girls (because unprotected sex is more dangerous for girls, as they can get pregnant obviously). Help young women to get on birth control or to used Plan B if birth control failed. 3) use your wallet politically. I mean, try to buy from women's businesses instead from men's, from local businesses instead of big corporations. Only buy what you need. Or, if you have any talent (gardening, clothes making etc), diy! 4) teach women, especially young women, who are uninformed or misinformed, about the risks of sex, pregnancy, post-partum depression etc. It is very dangerous to be pregnant in the USA, especially after the abortion bans. Many women died because they were denied an abortion, even if they were basically dying in front of their doctor. That is shocking for us Europeans. In Italy ONE woman died years ago because she was denied an abortion (abortion is legal in Italy, and the family of the woman did sue the doctor). Public opinion was shock and anger. Many people took the streets to protest. I never saw Americans protesting for such a thing. Maybe because, like school shootings, it is a thing that happens often, so its not shocking anymore? 5) strikes. At work, at home (if you are married or you live with a man), a day of "shopping strike" (decide a day in which all American women refrain from shopping, even from online shopping). Sex strikes. No sex with men until the government fix the abortion issue, the high mortality of pregnant women and infants (very rare in Europe), and everything women want fixed. 6) stop buying/ following/ watching any media (papers, social media, TV) that have anti feminist ideas. Boycott especially X and Facebook, they are both very close to Trump. Basically, since they want to treat women as second class citizens, they do not deserve your money, time, body, nothing. Do not give them an inch. Probably some decent men out there will be caught in the crossfire, but it's not the time to be soft. If you can get a big number of American women to follow these "rules" I assure you things will change for the better.
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I am Italian so I know fascism very well. What I do not understand is why in the USA they made Project 2025 public before elections. Over here, fascists are not so "bold". They may agree with stuff in Project 2025 (not all of it, it is too extreme), but they would never say so. They know they need to take away our rights little by little, so we dont notice. Most people will only notice when its too late and we become like Hungary. But in the USA the far right tells the public in details their sick program months before elections and they expect to win?? I know your politics are moved to the right compared to Europe, but isnt Project 2025 unhinged for alot of American Republicans too? Can someone please explain to me? Thank you. Also, Meloni wants to make abortion more difficult to get but she keeps saying she will never ban it. With so many female leaders in the European far right (Meloni, many in her party, Marine Le Pen in France etc) "our" fascists are not saying those horrible things about women in public 😂 There are LGBTQ people too in European far right parties (France, Germany, etc) so the anti LGBTQ rethoric is not as prevalent either. I think the fact that Americans are so much more religious than us is making American fascism even worse. We do not have Evangelicals here. There are still a few Catholics (mostly in name only) but half of them vote center-left parties.
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@yendevus1747 Gladio. The name was Gladio. It was part of the stay-behind-operation. Usa (CIA) was the main actor behind the operation, but they also had help from the UK (MI6). Any other major actor I am unaware of? CIA is behind every single atrocity, act of terrorism, failed golpe, assassination, assassination attempt, etc in Italy since 1945. The Mafias and the Vatican were involved as well. The KGB was around too, but they never did any harm to Italy. In fact, I am convinced they saved us by bringing a sort of balance and helping our communist party (at least until our communist party was in good grace with the Soviets. Berlinguer criticized the Soviets many times for their methods, like their behavior in reguard to the Praga Spring, and then they were not very welcomed in Russia anymore. The Soviets also did not like Europe's brand of democratic communism that was successful in Italy, France etc). Do you know something I dont?
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@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet you think Americans have MORE freedom of speech than Europeans? 😂 I am sorry to shatter your view of the USA as "the land of the free", but I have lived in Italy, the UK, and the USA, and Americans are not more free than Europeans. They are just more free to die if they can not afford healthcare, free to die in a school shooting, free to live on the streets or in their cars if they are homeless, free to work 2 jobs with no workers rights, no paid vacations, no maternity/ paternity leave, free to spend hours in a car because you have no public transport, free to pay your huge student debts while we go to University for free... did I forget any freedom? 😂
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@Mistak23 My kindergarden (in Italy, late 70s) was run by nuns. I started hating them right there and then. I did not respect any of their "rules" because they did not make sense to me (I was born an atheist and I will die an atheist). Fortunately, 1) my father was a communist (and atheist), and very involved in local politics, 2) my family had a successful business, so we knew people, 3) my mother was a feminist, not interested in religion, and very much against rules (for herself and for her daughters). So I was the only child in the whole kindergarden who disobeyed all the rules, was openly critical of Christianity/ religion and an atheist, talked back to the nuns all the time, and I was never EVER punished in any way 😂 I am sure I would have been abused if my parents were not so relevant in local politics and successful in business. Or if I had a different personality. I find it very amusing I could insult Christianity all the time in kindergarden, and later in religion class (which I ditched once it was no longer compulsory) in elementary and middle school, and they (nuns, priests, religion teachers) could not punish me in any way, because if they dared, I would have told my parents, and they would have raised hell 😂 It is a shame my parents were the only ones in our little town to openly challenge the Church in the 70's. The antagonism between the town priest and the local communist politician was so common in post-WW2 Italy that it became a TV series (Peppone e Don Camillo) 😂
Today in Italy no one cares about religion anymore, not even the ones who call themselves "catholic". They know nothing about their own religion, so you can't even debate with them. No fun.
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@daveburke5177 they had power in Italy during the fascist regime, when Mussolini (an atheist) made a deal with the Vatican (Patti Lateranensi) that made Catholicism the State religion. It lasted on paper till the early 80s, but the Church did not have any control of the population. The popes after WWII "excommunicated" all communists, but the Italian Communist Party was massive, the biggest Communist Party in the West. So I guess at least one third of Italians were "excommunicated" then, and they did not care 😂 Since my family was among these "excommunicated" communists, I never felt the Church had any control of the Italian population. In the 70s divorce and abortion were made legal and supported by public referendum. The feminist movement was pretty radical and supported by the Communist Party and the Radical Party, so it had a mass base, it was not (only) a movement of the "élites". When in 1984 Craxi "reviewed" the Patti Lateranensi to officially separate the Italian State from the Church (catholicism was not the "official" State religion anymore), the civil society was already pretty much secular. I have to say though that I am always talking about Northern and Central Italy. The South and Sicily were (and still are) more religious. For a long time I believed Italy must be the country where the Church had the most power, since the Vatican is on Italian land and all. I did not know it had so much power in Canada, Irland, Poland, Spain etc. I always compared Italy to France and to Scandinavia, which I saw as much more secular and progressive than us. I think in some countries being catholic was a "political identity", like being muslim can be today for alot of people. The Irish people were catholic vs the English being protestant. The Poles were catholic vs the Soviet Union being Communist/ atheist. The catholic French speaking Canadians vs the protestant English speaking Canadians. We never needed to identify as "catholic" in Italy against an "enemy". And being closer to the Vatican made us more aware of all the bad stuff they did (and still do). I find it relevant that the Italian languages ("dialects") have more blasphemies ("bestemmie") against god, mary, the saints, Jesus etc than any other language 😂 I am from a region (Veneto) famous for our "bestemmie" 😂 I guess the stronger the virus, the strongest antibodies one develops. I hope I made sense 😂
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@NomisReburg aw thank you for your nice words! ❤️❤️❤️ Yes, you said it well. Wine is culture for Mediterranean countries. It's not just something to get drunk, like it is for most Americans. Beer is culture in Germany and other countries. Americans just do not understand European culture, or culture in general. They think the study of philosophy, the arts, literature, world history etc is a waste of time. It's very sad 😞 It is especially sad for American intellectuals, because there have been, and there are, great intellectuals in the USA, but they are not valued nor treated with respect over there. The USA are, and always have been, ANTI intellectuals. Now they are anti-science too. Many American scientists and researchers are desperately looking to move to the EU right now. I hope we can welcome them. Europe has a real chance to close the gap between the EU and USA on new technologies, by welcoming brains from the USA and other countries, and investing in new technologies (not only military ones). A nation without intellectuals, scientists and researchers has no future. Europe has been for centuries the continent of new inventions that changed the world forever. I am proud that my country was among these great nations, a country of inventors, intellectuals, scientists etc. Europe needs a new Renaissance, we need it now, and this situation with Trump might help us afterall ❤️ Our cultural diversity in Europe is a strength. Cheers!
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@petervizzini4006 and you know a child is not a property of the parents, right? In fact, many times we need to separate them for the good of the child. In Europe home schooling is not generally legal, all children must get real education. No religion bs, no "creationism", no flat earth, no anti LGBT propaganda, none of that bs. And sex ed for every child. Teen pregnancies are basically non existing in Italy and most of Europe. It makes me angry to see one of the richest countries on earth (USA) have third world levels of education, healthcare, mortality, homophobia, believes in the supernatural etc. Very peculiar.
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@svenhanson398 I agree. In 1992 I spent a year in the USA as an exchange student. It was there that I realised that us Europeans are a family. A family whose members have different languages, traditions, interests etc, but share a common history, many values, behaviors etc. We were a group of students from Italy, Spain, Germany, and other European countries. We all experienced the same culture shocks in the USA. We all critized the same things about the USA. We could talk among ourselves about things American students had no idea about, from politics to history to European "pop culture". We even "looked European". Of course I (as an Italian) was more stylish than the German student 😂 (joking), but we all dressed better than American students (who often looked like they were wearing pj's or going to the gym). We laughed about the same things. We all got a bit fatter after a few months of American food. None of us was interested in school sports, cheerleaders or going to the prom. Once a bunch of Europeans from different countries find themselves in another continent, they do realise there is indeed a shared European culture.
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@supermario69kraftgami23 Obviously every single country has "their" version of WWII. For example, the Americans are told they were the heroes, and never mention the fact that the Soviet Union had a huge role in defeating the Germans. I can not think of a single Hollywood movie about WWII that acknowledges the important role of the Red Army. In Italy, it was not the Americans that "liberated" the country from naz*fascism, it was the Italian Resistance. The whole mythology of post WWII Italy is based on the role of the Resistance. Of course the partisans were helped by the allies (with weapons, thru Radio Londra etc), but cities either liberated themselves (Naples) or were liberated by the Italian partisans (Milan). The Allies were still behind, in the South. Let's not forget the Americans allied themselves with the Sicilian mafia. Do American students learn about that? I doubt it. One very bad omission in history class in Italy (at least when I was a student, but I doubt much has changed) is the fact that Italy had colonies. Later than other European powers, and in a smaller scale than them, but Italy did terrible things in Africa. War crimes. In parts of Eastern Europe too. We never talk about that. The official narrative is "the good Italian vs the evil German". The official story is that, through the Resistance, Italy has paid for its "sins" (creating fascism, exporting it all over Europe and beyond, "racial laws", becoming allies of Hitler, colonialism). Germany chose (kind of forced by the Allies of course) "denazification", inconditional support to Israhell, collective guilty passed on thru generations etc. Italy chose to basically skip over 20 years of fascism and war and proclaim the birth of a new Italy, with a new antifa constitution written by our Resistance heroes and heroines. I have great respect and love for the Italian Resistance, I think we have a good constitution (could definitely be better), but we never dealt with our fascist and colonial past. There was no "denaz*fication" in Italy. They just changed name of the party and have been in politics ever since. Their last name is obviously Fratelli d'Italia. So, you really need to study History from different povs, because your own country is never gonna tell you the truth about its own dark History. Japan is another country that teaches WWII without mentioning its own many war crimes. I am lucky my parents were always into counterculture(s) (they were involved in the 1968 "revolution"), always on the side of minorities/ "underdogs" (Black Americans, Native Americans, Palestinians, Kurds, feminists, LGBT+, atheists, anticapitalists, no-globals, eco-activists, etc), and always big on education (not only in school, at home as well). So I was lucky to hear all these people's point of views and not only the official version of facts. My parents, and later myself, also travelled alot and have friends from many different countries. We have friends from Iran, Russia, China, etc so we do not consider ANY country an "enemy". It's well known us Italians have only one enemy: ourselves 😂 Sorry this was so long, I hope I didnt bore you too much ❤️
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In Italy everybody knows that corporations, especially American ones, are rushing to destroy the planet and the human race with it only because of their endless greed.
Fortunately, the EU (unlike the USA) is very committed to the fight against climate change. The EU also makes many regulations that corporations have to follow, rules to protect our environment, our workers, our privacy, our internet data etc. They are really going after Musk now, because he promotes hate speech, far-right content, misinformation etc. I hope the EU will ban Twitter. There is a reason why many billionaires live in the USA or move there. In Europe there are many rules to keep them "in check". In the USA, they are free to pollute as much as they want, treat workers like slaves, etc, and nobody does anything about it. Btw, I did not even know about that Italian case. I am very angry now that my government, with our taxes, will have to pay. Americans corporations are "buying" our country I am afraid. But hey at least our government tried to stop them. Which means they care a little. Italy is one of the European countries with the biggest variaty of animals and plants. The UNESCO recognizes this. Most Italians care about the environment, we care about animals, we refused nuclear power twice in referendum, we are the #1:country in Europe for recicling etc. Then American big businesses come here and do not want to follow Italian/EU rules. It's insane. Musk is the most famous example. I hate him.
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@donaldhobson8873 look for the GINI coefficent. Maybe it will help you understand how the rich have been getting richer, and the poor poorer. It's the same thing that happened between the end of the XVIIII century and the beginning of the XX century. The rich got massivily rich, the poor massivily poor, the great depression happened. The people got VERY angry and social unrest was rampant, until the rise of Mussolini and his pal Hitler. They started WWII, millions of people died, Europe was in ruins etc. Did you study WWII in school? I mean, REALLY why it started? Dont you see that the same cycle has been happening all over again, and rn we are already in the first phase of WWIII? The superpowers have been (still are rn) ingaged in dozens of proxy wars for years. If these mad men do not stop, it will be a question of who will send they nuclear bombs first. Not if, only who, when, where. Americans have taken a road which will bring destruction to them and possibly the rest of the world. Good choice. The American government should have spent more money on education and healthcare (especially mental care) than on the military. This is the consequence of having a majority of illiterate voters.
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@darylwilliams7883 the people who run the big oil companies have been aware they are leading the planet towards destruction SINCE THE 50s!! There are documents of studies requested and psid by them. There are videos on yt about this. They KNEW all along, but since they obviously did not like the results THEIR scientists gave them, they kept that knowledge from the public. They are evil and very greedy. Probably most of the population is not aware of this fact. I am not giving them a pass, because if I know about it and I like on the other side of the ocean, there is no excuse for the average American voter to not know. But the people in the business do know of the terrible consequences. Those scientists in the 50s warned them of a possible threath to human civilisation even. And here we are, getting closer everyday because the rich are never rich enough in their mind. In Europe we are working very hard and spending alot of money for the Green Transition, but if the USA and other countries do not change their course, everything we are doing here in Europe will have little impact globally 😞 American and European values and interests have been growing apart for decades now, but the next Trump amministration will be the final divorce. Climate change, feminism, education, rejection of war are some very important priorities for the EU, and Trump doesnt care about any of them. I am sure he will threaten tariffs, withdrawl of American military from European countries (I hope he does. We have been "occupied" for 80 years), or, who knows, even war. I am, it's Trump, he is capable of anything. I hope our leaders in Europe are not easily bought or scared, because Europeans citizens have had enough of the American bully.
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@donaldhobson8873 In Italy we also do not have big corporations like the USA. Our system is made mainly of small and medium businesses usually run by the same family for centuries. And we do not have mega billionaires like the USA. This mean our rich people have more incentives to re-invest in Italy, especially in their community, which is good. We have laws that protect workers from injust firing, so most people work in the same business all their life. In small/ medium sized businesses often they become "part of the family". Our society is not classist like the British one (I know, I have lived in the UK for 2 years). It's usual over here to find the "boss" having a drink with their employees at the local bar. My grandfather did not go to University (too busy during WWII), but his best friends were a lawyer and an important doctor. I know you do not care about any of this, but you misunderstood my comment, offended the person you thought I was (a poor American, while I am a middle class Italian), and seem to jugde other countries/ cultures based on your own. That's not how you treat people. I love Scotland and I have met many amazing Scottish people, especially in the music scene in the 90's/early 2000. So I know they are good people in general. You must be an exception. Btw, do you know the indie band "Bis"? Belle and Sebastian? And the Jesus and Mary Chain of couse! Teenage Fanclub? The Delgados? I love Scottish indie and punk bands ❤️ I was friends with a lot of them. Have a nice evening.
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@donaldhobson8873 @donaldhobson8873 In Italy we also do not have big corporations like the USA. Our system is made mainly of small and medium businesses usually run by the same family for centuries. And we do not have mega billionaires like the USA. This mean our rich people have more incentives to re-invest in Italy, especially in their community, which is good. We have laws that protect workers from injust firing, so most people work in the same business all their life. In small/ medium sized businesses often they become "part of the family". Our society is not classist like the British one (I know, I have lived in the UK for 2 years). It's usual over here to find the "boss" having a drink with their employees at the local bar. My grandfather did not go to University (too busy during WWII), but his best friends were a lawyer and an important doctor. I know you do not care about any of this, but you misunderstood my comment, offended the person you thought I was (a poor American, while I am a middle class Italian), and seem to jugde other countries/ cultures based on your own. That's not how you treat people. I love Scotland and I have met many amazing Scottish people, especially in the music scene in the 90's/early 2000. So I know they are good people in general. You must be an exception. Btw, do you know the indie band "Bis"? Belle and Sebastian? And the Jesus and Mary Chain of couse! Teenage Fanclub? The Delgados? I love Scottish indie and punk bands ❤️ I was friends with a lot of them. Have a nice evening.
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@donaldhobson8873 @donaldhobson8873 In Italy we also do not have big corporations like the USA. Our system is made mainly of small and medium businesses usually run by the same family for centuries. And we do not have mega billionaires like the USA. This mean our rich people have more incentives to re-invest in Italy, especially in their community, which is good. We have laws that protect workers from injust firing, so most people work in the same business all their life. In small/ medium sized businesses often they become "part of the family". Our society is not classist like the British one (I know, I have lived in the UK for 2 years). It's usual over here to find the "boss" having a drink with their employees at the local bar. My grandfather did not go to University (too busy during WWII), but his best friends were a lawyer and an important doctor. I know you do not care about any of this, but you misunderstood my comment, offended the person you thought I was (a poor American, while I am a middle class Italian), and seem to jugde other countries/ cultures based on your own. That's not how you treat people. I love Scotland and I have met many amazing Scottish people, especially in the music scene in the 90's/early 2000. So I know they are good people in general. You must be an exception. Btw, do you know the indie band "Bis"? Belle and Sebastian? And the Jesus and Mary Chain of couse! Teenage Fanclub? The Delgados? I love Scottish indie and punk bands ❤️ I was friends with a lot of them. Have a nice evening.
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@donaldhobson8873 @donaldhobson8873 1) In Italy we also do not have big corporations like the USA. Our system is made mainly of small and medium businesses usually run by the same family for centuries. And we do not have mega billionaires like the USA. This mean our rich people have more incentives to re-invest in Italy, especially in their community, which is good. We have laws that protect workers from injust firing, so most people work in the same business all their life. In small/ medium sized businesses often they become "part of the family". 2) Our society is not classist like the British one (I know, I have lived in the UK for 2 years). It's usual over here to find the "boss" having a drink with their employees at the local bar. My grandfather did not go to University (too busy during WWII), but his best friends were a lawyer and an important doctor. 3) I know you do not care about any of this, but you misunderstood my comment, offended the person you thought I was (a poor American, while I am a middle class Italian), and seem to jugde other countries/ cultures based on your own. That's not how you treat people. 4) I love Scotland and I have met many amazing Scottish people, especially in the music scene in the 90's/early 2000. So I know they are good people in general. You must be an exception. Btw, do you know the indie band "Bis"? Belle and Sebastian? And the Jesus and Mary Chain of couse! Teenage Fanclub? The Delgados? I love Scottish indie and punk bands ❤️ I was friends with a lot of them. Have a nice evening.
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4) since philosophy was/is taught in every University (and a compulsory subject also in European highschools), more and more people learned to think critically. They learned how to look behind the propaganda pushed by the mainstream (governments, churches, the mainstream media...). Atheism spread like a wild fire. So did protests against the governments. And distrust in mainstream media, the police, the army, patriarchy and ALL forms of authority. The 68 movement in the USA was less politicized (a part from the Black Panters and similar groups that the 3 letter criminal agency destroyed). It was more about INDIVIDUAL freedoms, because the USA is an individualistic society, not a collectivist one (like the Chinese one, but also in someway like the Mediterranean ones: Italy, France, Spain, North Africa, the Middle East etc). The American "hippies" movement was much less of a threath than the 60s and 70s movements in Europe.
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I am an atheist and I believe religions are VERY dangerous, because they can convince people, even "decent" people, to do terrible things in the name of "god". I mean, if someone thinks they are following god's orders/ wishes, they are not going to stop because of human laws or reasons 😞 I consider myself lucky to have atheist parents who were also involved in politics and activism. They taught me to NEVER trust religious "leaders" of any religion. And never blindly trust any government either. Italians in general are not trusting people. We are very skeptic. I spent almost two years in the USA in the past, and it was obvious they were in general more trusting of religious institutions, the government, other people. It was a long time ago thou, I dont know if things have changed. Looking at the MAGA cult, probably not much 😂
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@NoName-hg6cc btw, I went to a "foreign languages and literatures" school, where we studied languages, literatures, history, geography, PHILOSOPHY, law, ethics, civics, art, maths, sciences, physics, computer science, chemistry and I am sure I forgot something. Let me tell you, not a piece of cake.
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@nardforu131 it is not "profound". Nothing in the Bible is. It is all stupid tales to control stupid people. Stupid people need things like "meaning", "goals", "afterlife", "design", "god", "soul", etc because you are too weak to accept reality. You can not deal with the fact that we are animals on a rock in space, that we will die and there is nothing after death, and that humans are really evil at their core, only kept at bay by social conventions. Or, in case of stupid people, the threat of "hell". Grow up.
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No, social democracy relies on exploiting labor and resources from poor countries. I am European, I know how our system works. Right now they are trying to dismantle the Italian welfare system, privatizing public services like healthcare while giving them less funds, try to undo workers rights etc. Meloni, who ran an anti-immigration campaign, has accepted more immigrants than previous governments. They need cheap labor to pay for Italians' pensions, healthcare, etc. These immigrants live and work in appalling conditions. We do not have a legal minimum wage in Italy so immigrants, with no safety nets, are forced to work for peanuts. Many die from terrible working conditions. They close an eye about illegal immigrants because they know illegal immigrants will not have the means to denunce these crimes. It is a cruel system and I do not want that in my country. On the other hand, Italy is becoming home to many millionaires and even billionaires escaping the UK and other countries because they are taxed LESS in Italy. Elon Musk, Zelensky and many other have bought or are building mansions in Italy. Our gap between the very rich and the poor is becoming bigger and bigger. I hate it.
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@SB_2000PRCO Center-Left in Italy is PD (democrats). I vote AVS (green and far left alliance). We have no real social democratic party in Italy. We used to have a huge Communist Party (PC). Meloni comes from ex MSI, heirs of Mussolini. I am from a family who fought the fascists during WWII. Dont even think you can teach ME about politics in MY country. The fact we have Meloni as a PM now has NOTHING to do with our economic, political, social etc system. The Democrats are as guilty of trying to erase workers rights and the welfare state as any right wing party in Italy. Our only hope is the real Left (AVS) and possibly a shift to the Left of the Dems, who have been shifting to the center in the last 3 decades. You know nothing about Italian history/ politics, nor how European social democracy works. European countries can afford a welfare state only because they exploit poor countries (ex colonies in many cases, like France and the UK) or poor immigrants in European countries. Social democracy is the rich giving the poor some benefits to avoid a real socialist/ communist revolution. With a socialist country like Yugoslavia literally as neighbors, and doing so well (my parents spent their honeymoon in Yugoslavia in 1973 and loved it), and a very big Italian Communist Party, the Italian élites HAD TO give Italians decent workers rights, welfare, free healthcare and education etc. There was a very real possibility of a civil war otherwise. After the destruction of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, the Italian Communist Party changed into the Democratic Party and that was the end of a real, powerful Left in Italy and the beginning of the dismantling of the welfare state, workers rights, the start of privatisations etc. Please get informed before talking about things you have no idea about.
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@SB_2000PRCO @SB_2000 Center-Left in Italy is PD (democrats). I vote AVS (green and far left alliance). We have no real social democratic party in Italy. We used to have a huge Communist Party (PC). Meloni comes from ex MSI, heirs of Mussolini. I am from a family who fought the fascists during WWII. Dont even think you can teach ME about politics in MY country. The fact we have Meloni as a PM now has NOTHING to do with our economic, political, social etc system. The Democrats are as guilty of trying to erase workers rights and the welfare state as any right wing party in Italy. Our only hope is the real Left (AVS) and possibly a shift to the Left of the Dems, who have been shifting to the center in the last 3 decades. You know nothing about Italian history/ politics, nor how European social democracy works. European countries can afford a welfare state only because they exploit poor countries (ex colonies in many cases, like France and the UK) or poor immigrants in European countries. Social democracy is the rich giving the poor some benefits to avoid a real socialist/ communist revolution. With a socialist country like Yugoslavia literally as neighbors, and doing so well (my parents spent their honeymoon in Yugoslavia in 1973 and loved it), and a very big Italian Communist Party, the Italian élites HAD TO give Italians decent workers rights, welfare, free healthcare and education etc. There was a very real possibility of a civil war otherwise. After the destruction of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, the Italian Communist Party changed into the Democratic Party and that was the end of a real, powerful Left in Italy and the beginning of the dismantling of the welfare state, workers rights, the start of privatisations etc.
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@SB_2000PRCO everything you list about social democracy was done in Italy after WWII by every party. Some were achieved even before that. The only things we do not have in Italy is a law about minimum wage (because that is decided by our very strong labor unions, not by the law, but we are fighting to have a law for that). And social equity, which is proper socialism. But we still have much more equity than a country like the USA. Our middle class is bigger, we dont have many billionaires yet, and no italian is starving or living in the streets. As I said, immigrants ARE in a worse economic and social position and we (the Left) want to change that, and tax the rich more, but the biggest parties are voted because they promise Italian people more welfare, and they dont wanna tax the rich more, so the only solution for them is exploit immigrants here and/or exploit poor countries. Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats how social democracy works. We need to get rid of capitalism, not putting a bandaid over it. If you are American, I understand that for you social democracy is better of what you have now, but in Europe thats our reality and we know it works only with exploitation of others. We can do better than social democracy.
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No, YOU are. I am a good person, and before I retired from politics because of serious health issues, I was a great leader and "my" people loved me. If you can read Italian, google my name and you will find hundreds of articles, interviews, etc about me and my works. I especially did alot for girls and young women. I was an inspiration for them. I am very proud of them because they went on to do great things themselves. I am very much seen as an "authority" on several issues in my country. I was a guest in TV, radio, universities, festivals etc. MANY TIMES. I am sorry you are jealous and feel the need to offend me because you probably do not have anything like that in your sad little life, but not everybody has skills like mine.i am ending this conversation here because there is nothing else to say. Find something to do and stop be envious of other people. Goodbye.
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My country's (Italy) GDP is lower than the USA's, but 1) we have less wealth inequalilities and a bigger middle class (and something like 80% of Italians are home owners). 2) We have universal healthcare (among the best in the world, according to alot of specialists). 3) free/ cheap education (Universities included). 4) in the North, especially, we have great public transport (some of the best and fastest trains in the world) and infrastructures. 5) we have unions, much better workers rights, including long paid vacations. 4) we have paid maternal and paternal leave. 5) we have much lower infant and maternal mortality. 6) we live longer, healthier and happier. 7) there are things a high GDP can not buy: a less stressful life, better weather, natural and man-made beauty and art all around you, the fact you know you live in a community, and that in case of need, your neighbors, your family, your friends, ong, the church (even if you are an atheist 😂 like me), and the government will all provide safety nets for you. So nobody will become homeless or starve if they do not have a job. No poor people will be denied healthcare or an education. If you can not afford a home, the government is supposed to give you one (yes, sometimes it takes months or even years, we can do much better, but the idea is to avoid homelessness). If you are disabled and/or old, the government will help you in different ways. Money can not buy safety either, and Italy is one of the countries with the lowest rate of violent crimes in the world. Our food is cheaper than American food (I am leaving out fast food, because that is poison, not food) and of much better quality. Especially in the cities, but also in small villages, there are often festivals, concerts, movies, theater, and other cultural activities for free. Travelling to other European countries is often very cheap, by train but especially by plane. A flight from Venice to any European big city can cost as little as 20/30 Euros. A lost of museums are free or very cheap too. I know Italian wages are lower than American wages, and our taxes are higher, but the standards of living/ quality of life are much better in Europe than in the USA. We are also less obsessed with money, and with buying stupid things we do not need with money we do not have. To us money is a mean to an end, not the end itself. And we prefer to use it to buy not things by "experiences": travelling, going out to lunch with friends, going to cultural events, even going to the spa (I live near the famous thermal waters in Veneto (North Italy). Btw, if you have fibromyalgia, any form of rheumatism or similar cronic health problems that thermal waters can make better, your doctor can send you to the spa for free/ cheap 2 a year, I think a month or 2 each times. I live with my family in an area which is one of the 60 (!!) UNESCO World Heritage sites in Italy, so it is considered a priceless place that belongs to the world cultural patrimony. I was born here. Sorry about the long rant, but when I hear Americans bragging about their country being the "richest" in the world I shake my head and feel sorry for them. I have spent long periods of time in the USA (Missouri, NYC, Hawaii), in the UK and other European countries. In the end, I decided to live in Italy. We have a much lower GDP than the USA, but I have the impression most working-class and middle-class people have better lives in Italy and Europe in general. Of course wealthy Americans are well aware of this, and many of them own a house here in Italy, or are planning to retire here, or just visit often as tourists. The only reason why a young Italian or European today would considered moving, temporally or forever, to the USA is to try to get rich and/or successful, especially in the field of technologies. The "European system", fortunately, makes it alot harder than the "American system" to become a billionaire. Rightly so. Ok end of my rant 😂 no one is going to read it probably, too long 😂 ❤
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@zarach9459 I am a childfree, single by choice Italian woman. Your friend's lifestyle IS abnormal here. No young woman in her right mind would have so many children and so young. Youth is for studying, travelling, partying, dating etc. People should not get married and have children before their 30's, it's insane, they are just kids ffs. And 4 kids is unheard of in Italy, especially in the North. My mother had 1 sibling only and she is 74. She had 2 kids, and both my sister and I are childfree. Italian women are mostly educated, and we understood generations ago that we have nothing to gain from marriage and children. Yeah, we do not get married anymore either. Its all a scam.
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Quale dio? Gli italiani hanno smesso di andare a messa decenni fa. Quale patria? Roma? Qui nel Veneto la nostra patria è Venezia, non Roma. I Veneti erano un popolo diverso dai Romani. Ad esempio, i Veneti non erano un popolo guerrafondaio. Se volete la vostra "patria", ve la lasciamo, ma noi ce ne andiamo. Ah ma poi come sopravvive l'Italia senza le tre grandi e ricche regioni della Padania? E per famiglia, intendi quelle mafiose? Non ho mai votato Lega, ma capisco che c'è davvero un forte gap culturale tra il Veneto e Roma/ il Sud. Culturale, economico, religioso (nel senso che noi non lo siamo), morale etc. Quindi attenti con il vostro antiquato slogan "dio, patria e famiglia". Non attacca al Nord. Imparate da Zaia, non da Salvini. Zaia è il miglior leghista in Italia. È pro LGBT, non è bigotto, non è stupido e sta facendo il suo lavoro bene nel Veneto. Io voto molto a sinistra, ma Zaia è mille volte meglio di Meloni, Salvini e non parliamo di quello scherzo della natura di Vannacci.
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@darthmaul8912 I agree. Italy, Germany, the UK that I know of. Plus see wtf is going on Romania, Georgia, Serbia, and of course Ukraine (pre Russian invasion). One thing that was and still is repressed in most of Europe is the pro-Palestine movement. Another one is the repression of the indipendent press. In Italy we call the media "TeleMeloni" now, because she took control of public media and most of private media too. The Russophobia in Europe has reached insanity levels, with censorship of all Russian culture (opera, ballet, literature..). Journalists have never been under attack like this before. Even Swizerland recently arrested a Palestinian-American journalist ffs. Immigrants and the LGBT+ community are most at risk, but I am sure they will go after women's rights next, the disabled, and finally everyone who is not "white", hetero, "christian", and cis male. Possibly wealthy. Oh and I forgot climate activists. Meloni is specifically targeting them for some reason. The USA is gone, but I fear for the EU too. Good luck everybody!
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@darthmaul8912 I agree. Italy, Germany, the UK that I know of. Plus see wtf is going on Romania, Georgia, Serbia, and of course Ukraine (pre Russian invasion). One thing that was and still is repressed in most of Europe is the pro-Palestine movement. Another one is the repression of the indipendent press. In Italy we call the media "TeleMeloni" now, because she took control of public media and most of private media too. The Russophobia in Europe has reached insanity levels, with censorship of all Russian culture (opera, ballet, literature..). Journalists have never been under attack like this before. Even Swizerland recently arrested a Palestinian-American journalist ffs. Immigrants and the LGBT+ community are most at risk, but I am sure they will go after women's rights next, the disabled, and finally everyone who is not "white", hetero, "christian", and cis male. Possibly wealthy. Oh and I forgot climate activists. Meloni is specifically targeting them for some reason. The USA is gone, but I fear for the EU too. Good luck everybody!
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@darthmaul8912 @darthmaul8912 I agree. Italy, Germany, the UK that I know of. Plus see wtf is going on in Romania, Georgia, Serbia, and of course Ukraine (pre Russian invasion). One thing that was and still is repressed in most of Europe is the pro-Palestine movement. Another one is the repression of the indipendent press. In Italy we call the media "TeleMeloni" now, because she took control of public media and most of private media too. The Russophobia in Europe has reached insanity levels, with censorship of all Russian culture (opera, ballet, literature..). Journalists have never been under attack like this before. Even Swizerland recently arrested a Palestinian-American journalist ffs. Immigrants and the LGBT+ community are most at risk, but I am sure they will go after women's rights next, the disabled, and finally everyone who is not "white", hetero, "christian", and cis male. Possibly wealthy. Oh and I forgot climate activists. Meloni is specifically targeting them for some reason. The USA is gone, but I fear for the EU too. Good luck everybody!
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Women are more educated about pregnancy and childbirth now, and they know they are both horrible. They cause temporary and permanent health problems, they ruin your body, make you older, kill braincells, cause depression, anxiety and worse, often ruin your sex life, increase your risk of dying both because of complications and because of murder (yes, pregnant women are much more at risk of being killed by their husbands/partners than non pregnant women), half of them become incontinent, often for LIFE... and on and on and on. There is not enough money in the world that makes pregnancy and childbirth worth it. Add the facts that 1) your child may be born with disabilities so serious that you will have to look after him/her their whole life and 2) if your marriage/relationship ends, even if you divorce, your partner will always be in your life to co-parent. Immagine if you divorced because of an abusive partner. If you have a child together, you will never get rid of him. And there are dozens more reasons for a woman not to have a child. I forgot one: 90% of the time it is the mother who takes care of the child, the house, and everything. Fathers rarely help. So really, why SHOULD a woman have a child? I hope they finally start to use artificial wombs so that women are finally free from this barbaric practice. And also men can raise their kids by themselves if they want kids. Lets see how it goes 😂
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@Veritas.0 I also have written dozens of articles for years about the danger of pregnancy and childbirth and I educated hundreds of girls and women. They are still all childfree/ antinatalist. We also refuse sex to men who are not feminist. And we refuse marriage. If you think I am lying, check data on Italy. We have both one of the lowest birthrates in the world and the lowest rate of marriage in the world. Your side has lost, and theres nothing you can do about it. And we are happy with our cats, our friends, our money, freetime, great health, long naps and FREEDOM in general. No woman will give that up to suffer, clean shitty babies, and stay up at night because of the screaming. If men want children, they can make them in a lab and raise them themselves.
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@Veritas.0 @Veritas.0 I also have written dozens of articles for years about the danger of pregnancy and childbirth and I educated hundreds of girls and women. They are still all childfree/ antinatalist. We also refuse sex to men who are not feminist. And we refuse marriage. If you think I am lying, check data on Italy. We have both one of the lowest birthrates in the world and the lowest rate of marriage in the world. Your side has lost, and theres nothing you can do about it. And we are happy with our cats, our friends, our money, freetime, great health, long naps and FREEDOM in general. No woman will give that up to suffer, clean shitty babies, and stay up at night because of the screaming. If men want children, they can make them in a lab and raise them themselves.
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@Veritas.0 @Veritas.0 I also have written dozens of articles for years about the danger of pregnancy and childbirth and I educated hundreds of girls and women. They are still all childfree/ antinatalist. We also refuse sex to men who are not feminist. And we refuse marriage. If you think I am lying, check data on Italy. We have both one of the lowest birthrates in the world and the lowest rate of marriage in the world. Your side has lost, and theres nothing you can do about it. And we are happy with our cats, our friends, our money, freetime, great health, long naps and FREEDOM in general. No woman will give that up to suffer, clean shitty babies, and stay up at night because of the screaming. If men want children, they can make them in a lab and raise them themselves.
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11) before someone says mine are "conspiracy theories", no, we have proof. Have you ever heard of Gladio? That was the name of the secret operation in Italy and in other European countries. In Latin America, the Middle East etc the secret organizations had/have different names. But same tactics, same goals, same everything. Gladio was already known by Italian politicians of different parties (and some intellectuals, like Pasolini, killed in misterious circumstances), its existance (and the existance, member list, methods and goals of a parallel massonic lodge called "P2"/ Propaganda due), plans, goals etc. were discussed in the Italian parliament during the Cold War. Italians knew. But it became fully public in 1990 (24 october) thanks to Giulio Andreotti. It was a huge scandal. Later, declassified C I A documents proved everything to be real.
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No, we are not. Meloni was voted only by 25% of Italians. My grandparents fought against both fascism and german nazi occupation and the partisans (aka the Italian people) won. After the war, people wanted to vote for communists, but the USA did not let them. Please educate yourself about Italian history after WWII and the role of USA, CIA and their spread of anti-communist propaganda. In the 70s, again, so many Italians voted for PCI (Europe's biggest communist party) than the USA got worried, again, that Italy would turn into a communist country. So they (CIA and Sismi) infiltrated and sponsored terrorism both on the left and right. To terrorize italian people into voting for a government that the USA liked. Read about Anni di Piombo and Strategia della Tensione, Terrorismo di Stato. We have proof. Italians are NOT "fascists by nature", especially after WWII. You know nothing about Italians and our history.
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@ronstephen-wy4ib I agree. As an European used to a multiparty system, I do not understand American critique of monoparty systems like Russia and China. The USA just gives its citzens the ILLUSION of choice to pretend to be a democracy, when clearly, at least from an European POV, American republicans and democrats are more or less the same party, the former being far right and the latter moderate right. There are no leftist parties in the USA. Not big enough to count anyway. And tbh, in Italy some politicians (like Meloni and her far right allies especially, but also, to an extent, our center-left Democratic party) are pushing for the American dual party system as well. If they succeed, it will be the end of Italian democracy. Minorities will never have a voice in our parliament again. It will be tragic.
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In Italy everybody knows that corporations, especially American ones, are rushing to destroy the planet and the human race with it only because of their endless greed.
Fortunately, the EU (unlike the USA) is very committed to the fight against climate change. The EU also makes many regulations that corporations have to follow, rules to protect our environment, our workers, our privacy, our internet data, our FOOD and water, our education system, our healthcare etc. They are really going after Musk now, because he promotes hate speech, far-right content, misinformation etc. I hope the EU will ban Twitter. There is a reason why many billionaires live in the USA or move there. In Europe there are many rules to keep them "in check". In the USA, they are free to pollute as much as they want, treat workers like slaves, etc, and nobody does anything about it. Btw, I did not even know about that Italian case. I am very angry now that my government, with our taxes, will have to pay. American corporations are "buying" our country I am afraid. But hey at least our government tried to stop them. Which means they care a little. Italy is one of the European countries with the biggest variaty of animals and plants. The UNESCO recognizes this. Most Italians care about the environment, we care about animals, we refused nuclear power twice in referendum, we are the #1 country in Europe for reciclying etc. Then American big businesses come here and do not want to follow Italian/EU rules. It's insane. Musk is the most famous example. I hate him.😮
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@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet @TheArtistKnownAsNooblet you think Americans have MORE freedom of speech than Europeans? 😂 I am sorry to shatter your view of the USA as "the land of the free", but I have lived in Italy, the UK, and the USA, and Americans are not more free than Europeans. They are just more free to die if they can not afford healthcare, free to die in a school shooting, free to live on the streets or in their cars if they are homeless, free to work 2 jobs with no workers rights, no paid vacations, no maternity/ paternity leave, free to spend hours in a car because you have no public transport, free to pay your huge student debts while we go to University for free... did I forget any freedom? 😂
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@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet @TheArtistKnownAsNooblet you think Americans have MORE freedom of speech than Europeans? 😂 I am sorry to shatter your view of the USA as "the land of the free", but I have lived in Italy, the UK, and the USA, and Americans are not more free than Europeans. They are just more free to die if they can not afford healthcare, free to die in a school shooting, free to live on the streets or in their cars if they are homeless, free to work 2 jobs with no workers rights, no paid vacations, no maternity/ paternity leave, free to spend hours in a car because you have no public transport, free to pay your huge student debts while we go to University for free... did I forget any freedom? 😂
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@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet @TheArtistKnownAsNooblet you think Americans have MORE freedom of speech than Europeans? 😂 I am sorry to shatter your view of the USA as "the land of the free", but I have lived in Italy, the UK, and the USA, and Americans are not more free than Europeans. They are just more free to die if they can not afford healthcare, free to die in a school shooting, free to live on the streets or in their cars if they are homeless, free to work 2 jobs with no workers rights, no paid vacations, no maternity/ paternity leave, free to spend hours in a car because you have no public transport, free to pay your huge student debts while we go to University for free... did I forget any freedom? 😂
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@TheArtistKnownAsNooblet I have no idea about the people in the UK or France, I'll check it out, but I never heard of these episodes. I know Germany is going crazy rn accusing people of antisemitism just because they are against war, but protesters have been arrested en masse in the USA for the same reason, so I would not compare if I was you. The USA are always going to lose against Europe. Your politicians have to say they are christian even if they are not, otherwise they have no chance of being elected. I would call that "compelled" to say they are christian. In Europe politicians are free to be atheist, lgbt, cheat on their partner, be an ex pornstar, smoke weed, do whatever they want, we dont care. In Italy they can be communist (it's a crime in the USA) or have a Mussolini collection at home, Italians do not care about that either. We have a dozen of parties, not 2 parties like the USA, so every political group can have seats in the parliament. From antifa/anticapitalists to neofascists to regional parties, from pro-EU to anti-EU, etc. In the USA there is no political freedom.
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@jennyfromtheblock.7153 I still have faith in the American people, the side of America that fought for civil rights for black people, women, lgbt, against wars, for the environment etc. I am a big fan of progressive American culture. The music, the literature, the youth movements. Harris is also a symbol for justice competing against a criminal with no respect for the laws and democracy. I do not see any weak point in her, at least not from here in Europe. Ps: I know the batshit crazy lunatics are mostly concentrated in a few ultra religious States 😂 The places I have been to (Missouri, Florida, NYC, Hawaii) were not crazy at all. Well maybe Florida was a bit weird for me 😂
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@eddiecalderone misleading how? No country in the EU is as violent as the USA. Mass shootings never happened in Italy. Never. No country in the world has as many people in prison as the USA. What has the number of cops do to with any of this? The cops are not on the streets trying to prevent petty crime. Maybe we have more armed forces because we had to deal with decades of mafias, terrorism, etc? Maybe because every town, even tiny ones, have their own carabinieri? Whom, btw, I never see around. And I am well aware that at times Italian police and carabinieri have been brutal (I was at the G7 protests in Genoa in 2001 and I will never forget what they did), but the American police is SO MUCH worse, especially to black people. There is no comparison to the violence in the USA vs EU countries. I lived in the USA for almost 2 years, in the UK for 2 years, I have travelled all around Europe and Italy. No comparison.
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@eddiecalderone no one is a "fan" of the USA outside USA. I have lived in Missouri for a year (exchange student) and Florida for 6 months (ex bf). I met nice people, yes, of course. I was treated well and had a good time, because I was with progressive people, and, lets be honest, I was a pretty, white young woman guest of 2 wealthy families (I am not rich myself). But as an ex journalist and activist, I could not unsee the violence, poverty, racism, unjustice, religious extremism, ignorance, bigotry, the awful "purity culture", the awful approach to drug addicts (treated as criminals and not people with a health problem), etc. I know Europe (and my country, Italy), has many problems, but most people in Europe agree that life is just better in Europe than the USA. In the USA, I could only afford the doctor because my host family and my bf were rich. In Florida, people thought I was weird just because I wanted to go for a walk alone at night. They told me it was too dangerous. In the USA I saw no public transport. American highschool was terrible, like going to kindergarden. The decent food was expensive. The cities were ugly and all looked the same. People know nothing about politics, philosophy, history, geography, the arts etc. I was interrogated at the airport for 2 hours because I was a MUSIC writer for an Italian left newspaper. I said "communist" and they panicked 😂 I forgot for a moment that "communism" and "socialism" are crimes in America 😂 while they are perfectly fine political positions in Europe. The American propaganda machine is worse than the Russian one. I also found both Missouri and Florida to be more sexist than Italy, which is a very low bar. The American bf wanted to marry me, his family was ready with the papers for me to move to Orlando. I took a plane home asap and broke up with the guy. Besides all the stuff I mentioned, I could never live in a country that is at war all the time and is responsable for millions of deaths around the world. The Italian constitution, written right after WWII, says that Italy rejects war. That's why we are not giving offensive weapons to Ukraine. We are also not friends with the rogue country committing war crimes since last october. Is that enough reasons to hate the USA? Oh wait, here is another one: American military bases occupying our country since post WWII. Intefering in OUR politics with (failed, lucky us) coups, CIA-sponsored terrorism, propaganda, assassinations etc. I could go on all night.
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I am not American, but it was obvious to me that Trump and Musk were going to screw it up. They are not politicians. They have no idea how politics work. And honestly, they are not even smart business people. They got rich by frauds, stealing other people's ideas, exploiting workers, not paying taxes, links to the mafia etc. Trump bankrupted several casinos, Musk has destroyed Twitter and now is destroying Tesla. Also, they are both liars. Musk convinced people he was going to send people to Mars by 2024 😂 I was shocked that so many Americans voted for Trump AGAIN. Did they not remember the mess he made last time? People need to stop thinking that you have to be smart or talented to get rich. They got so rich by doing scummy, probably illegal, stuff, like all billionaires. Now they are managing the USA government like they managed their businesses. If you don't stop them, your country will go bankrupt too.
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@lolilollolilol7773 yeah, Chinese EVs are way better than any Tesla. They work better and look better too. I am sorry regular American people can not get them because tariffs make them very expensive there. Americans have to spend more, for lower quality items. I really hope the EU turns more and more to China and other Brics countries. The USA will be left out in cold alone, if they keep acting like this. Threatening American allies like Canada, Mexico, Europe etc with trade wars and even annexation of territories (like Greenland) is INSANE. Protectionism and monopolies will destroy competition in the USA, and this will mean the Americans will soon be left behind even in new technologies. China has already shown, first with cars, now with AI, that they can do better than the USA WITH LESS CAPITAL. We need to do the same in Europe. Create our own technologies, and get rid of American monopolies that have too much power over Europe. I hope the Iris project will be ready asap, so we do not have to turn to Musk for this, like Giorgia Meloni wants to. I, for one, barf at the idea of Musk having access to our data, and even to military/national secury data. We can not let this happen in Europe!!
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@lolilollolilol7773 the EU should strenghten its relationship with China and Brics. Including Russia, if they still want to work with us after what we did in Ukraine. My region (Veneto), one of the richest ones in Italy, has been hit very hard because of Russian sanctions, the loss of cheap Russian gas (and the imposition of MUCH MORE expensive American gas), the attack on Nordstream (by Ukrainians back by Washington), and all the Russophobic and warmongering propaganda. We always have had a very close relationship with Russia and mutual respect. Meloni and the EU ruined decades of diplomacy, cultural exchange, and business between Italy and Russia. I hope they will not do the same with China, just to please Washington, and, once more, against OUR interests.
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@rapper4orty2 how old are you? 12? Women kept the economy alive during WWI and WWII both in the USA and Europe, often doing a better job than men. Every single society got wealthier, with better standards of living for women, children and even men THANKS to feminism. Even today, the poorest countries, like the ones in Africa, the Middle East or Asia, are poor also because they do not use half of their population (WOMEN). Once a country has educated women in schools and the workplaces, economy and living standards improve alot. So, its either live in poverty with many children who will get sick, stave, and die young, or get your country out of absolute poverty and ignorance with the help of women, but have fewer children. It is really a no brainer.
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Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@raihanshirazi5884 Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@raihanshirazi5884 Because Israhell is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@raihanshirazi5884 Because Israhell is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@raihanshirazi5884 Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@raihanshirazi5884 Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@raihanshirazi5884 Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@raihanshirazi5884 Because Israel is protected by the USA, the bully State that has military bases all over the world, can destroy a country's economy if they want, or just use CIA's methods (assassinations, coups, terrorism etc) against countries that "disobey" their orders. It happened in my country, Italy, from the late 60s to early 80s. The "years of lead" (anni di piombo) were bloody. The EU is controlled by the USA.
The international community, the people, do not want any of this. But our "leaders" are either threatened or bought out by the bullies, so they do not do what their people want, they do what any vassal State does: obey their masters.
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@triciamtl that sounds horrible. In Italy before the country was united in 1861 (1866 actually was when the last region, mine - Veneto - was annexed from Austria), the Vatican ruled the Papal States in Central Italy. They soon became the most anticlerical, atheist, areas of Italy. And the most fiercely Communist ones. We call them the red regions (Toscana, Umbria, Marche, Emilia Romagna) or "red belt" of Italy. I guess that shows how bad the Church was and how much people hate it. That's another Italian stereotype I hate. Italians are NOT catholic. Probably never were. The North is and has long been atheist/agnostic/ indifferent like most of Western Europe, and the South is more "pagan" I guess, more superstitious. Of course the Catholic Church stole pagan traditions, symbols, even people, and pretended they were catholic traditions, symbols and saints, but they did that everywhere. There still are millions of Italians, especially in the South, who believe in witches, the horoscopes, fortune tellers, psychics, tarots, etc etc. I know many more Italians who believe in that stuff than in the christian god. We do not have televangelists in Italy like in the USA. But we do have a big choice of psychis, fortune tellers, mediums and the likes on TV. Some astrologers, like Paolo Fox, are big TV celebrities here. Does that sound like a catholic country? In Italy the Vatican was, and still is, seen as a political entity that wants polical power. It was never a "spiritual entity". Italians are not "spiritual" people.
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@therealrobertbirchall why did women accept that? You know, in countries with a big patriarchal culture, like we can see today, women's response has been to stop dealing with men, marriage and children. See South Korea, Japan, Spain and Italy for example. If the men keep on wanting a monopoly of power, they will get no marriage, no children, and not even sex. I expect they, than, will start more grapings and forced pregnancies. It is a very dark day for American women today.
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8) so Washington, throu their 3 letter, just born, agency, with support from the fa$cists (remember, Italy never had a Nurinberg trial. Most of the people who were part of the fa$cist regime stayed in power in Italy even after WWII), the church, mainstream medias, mafias and other enemies of the state, rigged the first post WWII elections in Italy. Through propaganda, "fake news," political violence, corruption etc. The party that was backed by Washington won the elections. In reality, the Communist Party would have won.
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Horrifying. The world is EVIL. And they wonder why people are not having children, especially in the West. Our overlords show us every day they do NOT care for the life and well being of children, not only in Gaza and in war zones, but also they do not care about children starving to death, dying from diseases, being abused (often by parents or religious figures), being trafficked, being forced to marry much older men (who often grape them), force to carry pregnancies, forced to get FGMs, and on and on... who in their right mind would bring children into this hell??
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@kelsmessedup no, I know hundreds of people, friends, family, work contacts, etc. Journalists have a huge net. People in Italy, especially Gen X and older, are well informed about this. My father is 76 and knows pretty much everything about politics of today and the past. I was born and raised in a very political area. I was shocked when I lived in the USA as an exchange student for a year in 1992 and NOBODY talked about politics. In Italian highschools in early 1992 there were extremely political actions. Occupations, self-management of classes by students, protests, marches, strikes... It's a different culture.
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Americans, can I give you some suggestions? 1) boycott. Buy from local and indipendent stores/ markets. Only buy what is necessary. 2) avoid social media (all media actually, including TV and papers), especially the ones owned and controlled by the oligarchs. 3) create your own independent media and business. 4) stop joining the military. The American military industrial complex is not there to protect ordinary Americans. It is the weapon used by the American government to protect the oligarchy's interests in the world and in the USA as well. It will be used AGAINST American citizens in case of mass protests, like it happened before. 5) strikes. You need to organize national strikes that include ALL workers. Paralyze the country for a day. Show them the country can not function without the working classes. 6) civil disobediance. Refuse to obey orders that are illegal or/ and morally wrong. Refuse to pay taxes. Obviously you need to get entire communities to do this. They can not arrest entire communities or cities. 7) inform and educate your fellow Americans. I spent a year in an American highschool in 1992 and let me tell you: your education system sucks. Your schools are made to create obedient workers with no critical thinking. In European highschools philosophy and civics are compulsory subjects. Introduce philosophy classes in highschools. Critical thinking is ESSENTIAL today. The MAGA cult is obviously built on ignorance and lack of critical thinking. 8) teach citizens law, and how it affects them in real life. Teach them what RIGHTS they have. 9) do not obey in advance, do not self-censure, do not show FEAR. They want people to be afraid, obedient, and isolated. Do the opposite. 10) do the opposite of everything that is in their Project 2025 agenda. If you are religious, stop going to church, stop giving money to churches, stop sending your kids to religious schools. If you are not religious, join the Satanic Temple. Beat them (the Christo-fascists) at their own game. The Satanic Temple is doing awesome stuff in the USA. In Italy we have the UARR (Unione degli Atei e degli Agnostici Razionalisti) fight a very similar fight. 11) stop getting married and having children!! Without a new generation of Americans, the oligarchs have no one to exploit. They are obssessed with the low fertility of "white" people, because they are super racist. Musk spoke about this dozens of times. So, do not give them new people to exploit. Let them know that if things do not change for the better, no one is creating more wage slaves, more consumers, more cannon fodder for the next American wars (and there are SO many possible wars in the near future).
I know some of my suggestions will be considered "radical" by some, but you guys (and us Europeans too) need to be radical rn if we want to stop the spread of fascism. If all the above tactics fail, the only way out will be a civil war. Civil wars are pure horror for people on both sides. I hope it wont come to that. Good luck everybody.
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I am not American. But I have a question. The whole world knows that the American government, throu the CIA and other American organizations, has been involved in coups, attempted coups, meddling in other countries' politics, causing instability and spreading propaganda both inside the USA and in pretty much EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. Americans played a big role in the downfall of the Soviet Union and their vassal States (Poland, for example). Yes, the Soviet Union had also internal issues, but the USA was there to exploit these issues. NATO and the CIA have done huge damage to my country (Italy) too, especially during the Cold War. Do you think it is possible that the current American crisis is not just "bad karma", but is at least partially caused by some of the enemies Washington itself has created since post WWII? I know Americans think their country is invincible, the best in the world etc. But China has proved to be able to beat American Big Tech. Russia has proven to have a military capable of winning in Ukraine despite Ukraine being backed by Nato, the USA, and the EU. What if this time it's your turn to be victim of a coup backed by foreign state actors? Trump, Musk, and their accomplices are literally dismantling the American government. They have ruined American "soft power" tools like USAID. China will for sure take advantage of that. Trump and Musk have already ruined the relationship between the USA and their allies (Europe, Canada, Mexico, MENA countries and even South Korea). Their only ally rn is the pariah State of Israel. Maybe its just a fantasy of mine, but it would not be impossible. Assange and Snowden have showed the world that American "secrets" are not "safe" afterall. Do you really trust Elon Musk and Trump not to be working for foreign entities? Or maybe they are being used by such entities without even knowing... I am curious to know if anyone thought about this. Thank you.
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10) so, what did Washington do, throu their 3 letter agancy? Everything they still do today all over the world: coups, propaganda, violence, false flag terrorist attacks, sanctions, threats, war, assassinations ecc. Look at what happened in Syria recently. Look at what is happening in South Korea. In Germany, etc.
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@hotstepper887 you have no idea what degree I have, what I know, what my job is, how old I am or anything else. Saying you know more about my country than me sounds insane and arrogant. Do you even speak Italian? How you lived here? I have been active in politics, medias, social activism etc for 30 years. What about you? Unbelievable. Another arrogant, ignorant, American. I have lived in the USA in different decades and States too, I could say I know more about your country than you do, but I dpnt, because I am not an arrogant ignorant American like you. Ciao.
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@alex29443 I am pretty sure I am right and YOU are wrong. And I have been teaching my ideas for 30 years in magazines, books, radio etc 😂 you are just backwards. Having children is immoral. Even some of the greatest philosophers, authors, poets we study in highschool in Italy thought so CENTURIES AGO. I know American highschools are a joke, I spent a year in one in 1992 as an exchange student. But in Europe we are required to study centuries of philosophy and literature, religion is a private matter, and rational thought prevails. If you are an American, studied in America, and never travelled nor read any philosophy book, I understand why it is hard for you to grasp my pov. Btw, having kids so they can look after you in old age is immoral and selfish. And most people abandon their old relatives in the USA anyway. That is not European nor Asian nor African culture. It is American culture. In Europe we have safety nets both thanks to a much better welfare system, and a broad concept of family (not "nuclear family" like in the USA). I am not worried about old age and death AT ALL. I am glad I spent my youth having the best life I could get and I would die happy today 😂 our new battle in Italy is assisted suicide for the old and sick. Polls say most italians agree with it. We just have to get rid of Meloni and laws will be approved. If not, Switzerland is just behind the corner (I live in North Italy). Again, why would I worry about old age? I worry about the environment, and wars happening in our backyard, like Gaza and Ukraine. I have seen too many children killed by an evil regime in the last months. How can you even think about bringing new children into this hellhole?
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@alex29443 @alex29443 I am pretty sure I am right and YOU are wrong. And I have been teaching my ideas for 30 years in magazines, books, radio etc 😂 you are just backwards. Having children is immoral. Even some of the greatest philosophers, authors, poets we study in highschool in Italy thought so CENTURIES AGO. I know American highschools are a joke, I spent a year in one in 1992 as an exchange student. But in Europe we are required to study centuries of philosophy and literature, religion is a private matter, and rational thought prevails. If you are an American, studied in America, and never travelled nor read any philosophy book, I understand why it is hard for you to grasp my pov. Btw, having kids so they can look after you in old age is immoral and selfish. And most people abandon their old relatives in the USA anyway. That is not European nor Asian nor African culture. It is American culture. In Europe we have safety nets both thanks to a much better welfare system, and a broad concept of family (not "nuclear family" like in the USA). I am not worried about old age and death AT ALL. I am glad I spent my youth having the best life I could get and I would die happy today 😂 our new battle in Italy is assisted suicide for the old and sick. Polls say most italians agree with it. We just have to get rid of Meloni and laws will be approved. If not, Switzerland is just behind the corner (I live in North Italy). Again, why would I worry about old age? I worry about the environment, and wars happening in our backyard, like Gaza and Ukraine. I have seen too many children killed by an evil regime in the last months. How can you even think about bringing new children into this hellhole?
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@cmd7930 it is not up to you. Its up to the people in power. They are not going to stop anything because businesses need immigrants for cheap labor. No politician is going to stop immigrants, not even the far right. Meloni has ASKED for more immigrants than any other government 😂 in Italy, immigrants work in agriculture, constraction, as nurses, babysitters, caretakers etc. In food service. No italian wants those jobs because they are too tiring, not enough money, or because they atudied for something else. Are you against a certain type of immigrants or all of them? Most immigrants in Italia are Albanian and Rimanianian, and they work very hard. Some are muslims, but they are no problem at all. So which immigrants are you against?
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@cmd7930 I like North Africa and the Middle East. I am from North Italy (Padua) so closer to France and Germany, but I have relatives in the South, and they are closer to Arabs and Greeks. In Italy immigrants are integrating pretty well, so I dont see any problem. No riots, no terrorism, no ghettos. Answer me: who will work in agriculture, constructions, service jobs like nurses, babysitters, assistance to old people, cleaning jobs, restaurants jobs etc if not immigrants? Italians are not going to work those jobs because they are over qualified. Italian young people are leaving for better wages elsewhere. So what is YOUR solution? I am curious.
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@cmd7930 I was born in Italy, I have travelled to many countries, I have studied abroad, worked abroad, lived abroad, been on vacation abroad, and now I live in Italy again, in the same town my great grandparents lived. I said I love North Africa and I do, like I love the Middle East, France, the UK, Spain, parts of Germany, and many other countries and cultures. That doesnt mean I want to move there. People from Veneto like me feel very close to their land/cities/culture. Why should I leave??? Who are you to tell me to move to Africa? Venice became one of the richest cities in Europe by trading with Africa and the East. Even the Roman Empire was mixed with North Africa and the Middle East. You could be African or Arab and become citzen of Rome. I come from a long list of important civilizations that were a mix of peoples, cultures, languages, even religions. None of them were xenophobe. You should study some history. Unless your utopia is North Korea lol thats what happens if you close your borders and isolate your country from the world. Maybe you should move to North Korea lol but probably they would not want you because you look different. I dont want Europe to become North Korea, sorry.
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@cmd7930 also, "create more children" is a stupid thing to say and not a solution. We need workers NOW. Children take at least 25 years to grow up and be trained for jobs. Western people mostly have a University degree, and people with a Uni degree refuse to work low value job. Sorry, it is like it is. You can not force people to have children they dont want. It will end in legal/illegal abortions, deaths, child abandonment, infanticide, abuse, and more horrible things. See Romanian orphans in the 90s for example. You can not just say "get people to have children". It doesnt work like that. How old are you? You must be a teenager, an adult would know everything you wrote is just a fantasy, not reality. Sorry, we live in reality and you will have to accept it, whether you like it or not.
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@cmd7930 @cmd7930 I was born in Italy, I have travelled to many countries, I have studied abroad, worked abroad, lived abroad, been on vacation abroad, and now I live in Italy again, in the same town my great grandparents lived. I said I love North Africa and I do, like I love the Middle East, France, the UK, Spain, parts of Germany, and many other countries and cultures. That doesnt mean I want to move there. People from Veneto like me feel very close to their land/cities/culture. Why should I leave??? Who are you to tell me to move to Africa? Venice became one of the richest cities in Europe by trading with Africa and the East. Even the Roman Empire was mixed with North Africa and the Middle East. You could be African or Arab and become citzen of Rome. I come from a long list of important civilizations that were a mix of peoples, cultures, languages, even religions. None of them were xenophobe. You should study some history. Unless your utopia is North Korea lol thats what happens if you close your borders and isolate your country from the world. Maybe you should move to North Korea lol but probably they would not want you because you look different. I dont want Europe to become North Korea, sorry.
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@svenhanson398 yes I agree. I have a diploma in European languages and literatures. I studied European history, philosophy, arts etc. I also travelled alot and lived for periods of time in the UK and USA. The UK is like, half way between continental Europe and the USA. Italy has been, for centuries, after the Roman Empire, ruled by foreign powers. You can still tell today. There are regions (like Piemonte and Val d'Aosta) that are more French-like, regions that are more German-like (Trentino-Alto Adige, Veneto), and the South and Sicily are like a different country (they were under Spanish, Arab, Byzantine rule among others). I do not even need to travel outside Italy to find different cultures or languages 😀 every region has its own language (some call them dialects, but they are proper languages, different than Italian). So it comes very natural for me to engage with (and respect) different cultures. Unfortunately in the USA they are taught that American culture is the best, and that everybody in the world wants to be like them. They get very defensive if you criticize any aspect of American culture. In Italy, we criticize our country and ourselves all the time 😂 (apart from food. We do think Italian food is above criticism lol). In regards to clothes, I dont think it is just vanity that makes us want to dress nicely. It is a question of respect. If you go to school or work dressed in pyjamas, it looks like you dont really want to be there and couldnt even bother to get dressed. This lack of respect was very obvious to me as an exchange student in an American highschool. In my Italian highschool, us students treated teachers with respect. No matter how friendly some teachers were, they were still teachers. In the USA, I saw students treating teachers in appalling, disrespectful ways that would not be tollerated here. I saw PARENTS treating teachers disrespectfully. In Italy, at least when I was a student, no parents would question the school's authority. If a student got a bad grade, no parent would blame the teacher. American parents do blame the teachers. Anyway, there is at least one thing all Europeans agree on: that we are NOT Americans 😂 nor we want to be.
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@svenhanson398 @svenhanson398 yes I agree. I have a diploma in European languages and literatures. I studied European history, philosophy, arts etc. I also travelled alot and lived for periods of time in the UK and USA. The UK is like, half way between continental Europe and the USA. Italy has been, for centuries, after the Roman Empire, ruled by foreign powers. You can still tell today. There are regions (like Piemonte and Val d'Aosta) that are more French-like, regions that are more German-like (Trentino-Alto Adige, Veneto), and the South and Sicily are like a different country (they were under Spanish, Arab, Byzantine rule among others). I do not even need to travel outside Italy to find different cultures or languages 😀 every region has its own language (some call them dialects, but they are proper languages, different than Italian). So it comes very natural for me to engage with (and respect) different cultures. Unfortunately in the USA they are taught that American culture is the best, and that everybody in the world wants to be like them. They get very defensive if you criticize any aspect of American culture. In Italy, we criticize our country and ourselves all the time 😂 (apart from food. We do think Italian food is above criticism lol). In regards to clothes, I dont think it is just vanity that makes us want to dress nicely. It is a question of respect. If you go to school or work dressed in pyjamas, it looks like you dont really want to be there and couldnt even bother to get dressed. This lack of respect was very obvious to me as an exchange student in an American highschool. In my Italian highschool, us students treated teachers with respect. No matter how friendly some teachers were, they were still teachers. In the USA, I saw students treating teachers in appalling, disrespectful ways that would not be tollerated here. I saw PARENTS treating teachers disrespectfully. In Italy, at least when I was a student, no parents would question the school's authority. If a student got a bad grade, no parent would blame the teacher. American parents do blame the teachers. Anyway, there is at least one thing all Europeans agree on: that we are NOT Americans 😂 nor we want to be.
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@Choodcel no it's not. You are just listening to the far-right politicians and media. They are just a loud minority. How can Europe be against multiculturalism when we are a bunch of countries with different cultures, languages, history etc? Take my country, Italy. There are 20 regions in Italy, they all have their own culture, local language, foods, traditions etc. An Italian from Sicily is closer to a Tunisian than an Italian from Bolzano, who is basically a German 😂 in Piemonte and Val d'Aosta they are half French. And in Veneto, where I was born and live, most people would like to separate from the rest of Italy altogether, because we have our own culture and we want to protect it. So, Italy has always been multicultural. We have been a country only for 160 years. And the EU is necessarily multicultural. Unless you think that a Sicilian and a Swedish person have the same culture, which is absurd 😂 so what do you mean, really?
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@Choodcel and btw, I have lived in the USA and the UK, and all over Italy, and travelled all over Europe. I speak from experience. In Italy we all defend our local cultures. We have laws to protect ethnic, cultural, religious etc minorities. Our Constitution was written right after WWII, mostly by catholics, communists, and socialists. They divided Italy into 20 regions because they recognized our multiculturalism. They gave special powers to regions like Val d'Aosta (culturally French), Alto Adige (culturally German), Venezia Giulia (culturally Slav), and the islands (different cultures than mainland Italy). So, if that is not multiculturalism, what is it?
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@Choodcel @Choodcel and btw, I have lived in the USA and the UK, and all over Italy, and travelled all over Europe. I speak from experience. In Italy we all defend our local cultures. We have laws to protect ethnic, cultural, religion etc minorities. Our Constitution was written right after WWII, mostly by catholics, communists, and socialists. They divided Italy into 20 regions because they recognized our multiculturalism. They gave special powers to regions like Val d'Aosta (culturally French), Alto Adige (culturally German), Venezia Giulia (culturally Slav), and the islands (different cultures than mainland Italy). So, if that is not multiculturalism, what is it?
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@Mistermeeceeks we can not choose classes. You choose what kind of highschool you want to go to (basically: sciences, humanities, or languages lyceum, OR a technical school). Once you choose the highschool, you can not choose classes. Some subjects are compulsory in every highschool, others are different depending on the type of school you chose. I choose languages. Every student has to learn one or 2 languages in Italy, but in languages lyceums we study 3 or 4, plus foreign literature, history etc. We all study art history, but in arts schools of course they have way more arts classes. We all study biology and chemistry, but in sciences lyceums they dedicate obviously most classes to sciences. It's a very different system than the American one. We do not have sport teams or proms or "clubs" etc. School is just school.
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@fitforfreelance In Europe, and especially in Italy, people are really proud of their (ancient) culture: literature, history, philosophy, arts etc. In the USA most of these things are considered "useless" because your society is based on capitalism, money, consumerism etc. Capitalism does not need philosophers or artists. So they have no value in capitalist USA. Europe, and especially Italy, is the place where the Renaissance happened. That is still important to us. Americans live to work, Europeans work to live, enjoy art, and spend time in a café drinking prosecco while debating philosophy.
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