Comments by "David Houseman" (@davidhouseman4328) on "Tempest: What Will A Sixth-Generation Fighter Jet Look Like? • FUTURE | Forces TV" video.

  1. Why wouldn't you need stealth, missiles go Mach 4 and beyond.
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  2. Lasers is an example, but it includes other forms of electromagnetic radiation.
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  3. Because it isn't more effective to do the same thing. Actually look what current drones do, they work in very uncontested environments.
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  4. It not funny, it's reasonable. The UK has precedent and friendly nations joining it. Iran doesn't.
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  5. Because it needs public support. And there's no technical info or unthought of ideas in the video.
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  6. No but it's not a straight forward partnership. For example with Sweden we are together on systems that might be in it rather than the overall jet. Italy is the other country current collaborating.
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  7. It's not the era of procrastination but of complexity. A plane of the past is a shadow of today's.
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  8. He's pretty clever, he's spotted that technology progresses over time.
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  9. You said you weren't going to lie.
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  10.  @kyle12111994  Have you got a source on that becasue it doesn't make sense with having F35s for the next generation?
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  11. Who the hell else would be building it?
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  12.  @LZE.  with those US jets production is still going. We are already getting to the end of Typhoon production with a Qatar and Kuwait for the UK and Italy's lines. There's no demand in those two countries for more as they're now buying F35. Also the Typhoon is expensive itself and cost control is part of core Tempest (which I actually believe with Sweden on board). I don't think you'll see the kind of cost difference like F15 to F22.
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  13. It's part of the future.
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  14. Except we built the Tornado, the Typhoon and now the F35. Our work share on the F35 is about 3x as many jets as we are buying.
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  15.  @NaeMuckle  AMRAAM - Mach 4. The missiles on Thaad Mach 8.
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  16.  @RJM1011  it's UK led. But I would call Typhoon UK built anyway. We have a smaller fleet of jets and like any manufacturing industry automation is taking jobs. My point is ending one project doesn't take jobs when the alternative is a project with UK manufacturing.
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  17. Tiny means short range. So that's more the weapon used by the fighter, not the fighter.
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  18.  @RJM1011  and so is Tempest, Italy and Sweden are already involved. But I was more talking about the job losses, 1 is the same as 3x1/3, working with others didn't lose us work.
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  19. Nah, the have a budget in the billions and hundreds of people multiple world class companies working together.
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  20. The basis of a new fighter would be a cross between a Typhoon and an F35 with the addition of loyal wingmen.
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  21. Compare just drones to a fighter with loyal wingman. You get much of the saving but retain short distance communications that are hard to disrupt. You also have things like the powerful radar of a fighter.
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  22. Works the other way as well. Upgrading Typhoons systems so they are at a good standard when integrated in Tempest.
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  23.  @maxelsoro6292  huh?
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  24.  @JamesKelly-tn2oz  the gens are a bit misleading. While it might be a generation a head of a current F35 things like loyal wingman will be integrated with F35s in the future.
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  25. F35
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  26. Your on.
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  27. It does have plenty of life that why the deadline is 15 years in the future. And that's only the start of deliveries.
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  28. Its unlikely it will be designed to be carrier capable.
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  29.  @ConstantineJoseph  It's not 6th because you've arbitrarily decided that speed is the basis of the next generation, it couldn't be any other step change in technology?
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  30.  @zipz8423  oh, could have sworn you meant the the Typhoon featured in this video.
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  31.  @4epa1012  we were part of the project from the beginning, build a significant chunk of it and own F35s.
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  32.  @catsupchutney  better for experts to make that decision based on research and experimentation.
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  33.  @English.Andy1  interference as well, disruption is a real issue with drones.
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  34. A lot of the new features of Tempest will be future upgrades for the F35. Its doubtful a 2040 Tempest would justify a generational step claim compared to a 2040 F35.
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  35. Sweden and Italy are already involved so Europe certainly isn't out. The Netherlands has shown interest. May be Japan too.
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  36.  @catsupchutney  though I'm not sure how your imagining smoke working on something going fast enough to hit a jet.
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  37. A single laser shot is much cheaper.
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  38. Hypersonic Mach 3? Do you know what hypersonic is?
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  39.  @ConstantineJoseph  It's possible with Typhoon DNA and improved engines though I doubt it. But that sounds more like an incremental improvement. The loyal wingmen this video talks about sound like more of a step change to justify the 6th gen title.
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  40.  @kimjonglongdong3158  I think the idea with Sweden is we may not end up agreeing on the final jet but we can use a lot of of the same systems. Think of a Gripen but with the Typhoon engine, radar, Pirate, networking etc. Ideally we have one jet but even with two we can share a lot.
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  41. Of course Tempest will have optional external hard points.
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  42. Dolphins look like fish but didn't steal from fish. Stealth means they are going to look a bit a like.
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  43.  @1chish  You have Leonardo working on the Gripen radar too.
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  44. Always, like Typhoons and Tornados. Even on the F35 it was a project partner and helps build them.
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  45.  @1chish  Dassault does have small amount of stealth experience from the nEUROn project. Also a lot of there problems come from not being allowed to lead and reportedly they are, in exchange for Germany leading on Tanks. The talk from Dassault suggests Airbus involvement is purely for the money.
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  46.  @Sedna063  I think the making a jet alone thing is a red herring. It's important if you've relied on another country for a specific area but I don't see any major gap in team Tempest.
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  47. Russia's next system the s500, is just an improved Soviet s300. Anything further on would be classified so not on a public video.
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  48. Then you'd never design a new fighter. How ever much money you put in the NHS even more would make it better.
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  49.  @1chish  I don't want to work with France, I just think they will also make a capable jet.
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  50. It might be because the advantage isn't there yet. It's an experimental technology, if they can't perfect it won't be an advantage.
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  51.  @xclonejager6959  the one thing an unmanned aircraft can do massively better is get shot down. That may sound glib but it is very important.
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  52. It's not certain but the chances are pretty high. Money has already been committed and foreign partners joined. We'll need a typhoon replacement and there isn't a natural fit to buy in. We've been involved in the design of our last 3 fighters. The better question is how far will we push it. It could range from a Typhoon with an internal weapons bay to the trend setting 6th gen jet.
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  53.  @1chish  we do have a good history with Italy and our current fleet is similar. That seems a great fit. I'm hoping Sweden will keep the costs in check so we can afford a good number of them.
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  54. Doubtful, they have a couple of known programs that are still deciding on what direction they go in.
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  55.  @overcorpse  Japan have basically failed at 5th gen alone. 6th gen isn't an option. But they could be a good partner. They have the money and fabrication capability and could be a useful far east centre.
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