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Comments by "" (@TentaclePentacle) on "Dave Rubin: Why I'm Still a Liberal | DIRECT MESSAGE | Rubin Report" video.
+FrankDaTank1218 A 15 year old is not still sucking nutrients from the women, while a fetus is continuing sucking genetic material from the body. A fetus is no different than tumor in that regard. When that collection of cells stop sucking the life out of a women, until then women gets to have the right to kill that collection of cells.
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+FrankDaTank1218 The goal post haven't change, the goal post is always that, Its inside the body feeding off the body, hence the host body gets to decide what to do with this tumor. A tumor feeds off the body just like a fetus. The women creates that life, the women can end it. There is a reason why the religious is so against abortion. Its because they think god created life and not the women, so only god can end a life. But that's not scientifically provable. Science says women created life through her own genetic materials, so a women can end it, as long as that life is feeding off the women.
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+FrankDaTank1218 Yes the argument is its her body, and that tumor is feeding off her body. I don't care if that tumor is alive, that tumor was created by her, and she have a right to end that tumor if she choses. "thou shall not kill"? god kills all the time. sorry I don't' believe in your god and you don't get to force you god onto me. If you want a theocracy go live in a muslim world. A breastfeeding child is just like a leech, but with a breastfeeding child the mother can push that leech away from the breast and prevent feeding. With a fetus you have to cut it out if the women choses. A women creates life a women can end it, as long as its attached to her. Just like go kills all the time. The goal has never shifted, if something is feeding off of you, you can stop that feeding.
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genetically not her body? what? Its the body that produced the fetus, its genetically not her body?
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+FrankDaTank1218 try to shift the goal post. Its her genetic material that made the fetus up. We are not talking about DNA we are talking about genetic material, and what made that material.
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+FrankDaTank1218 God created life is a lie. Women created life is a scientific fact. I have had way too much fun at the expense of the mentally challenged.
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+Lucky One so every time you masterubate you just killed millions. you genocidal maniac!
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+FrankDaTank1218 so you are now for abortion? Good job me, finally you have seen the light. Praise jebus.
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+FrankDaTank1218 I'm sorry Christi Winters, I'm sorry you don't understand sarcasm. And yes i do support the right of a creator of life to end that life. As long as that life is still attach to the creator. Your god have killed billions, what gives him the right to kill. Because he is the creator in your eye. Well a women is the creator of a fetus, a women have the right to end it.
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+FrankDaTank1218 If you don't back your argument with religion you have no argument. You only argument seems to be "thou shall not kill". Well I already told you, killing is acceptable under certain circumstances. The creator of a life can end a life if that life is sucking nutrientes off the creator. If a fetus can survive outside of the body, then it deserves rights, the mother can cut it out and the fetus can still survive, then it gets rights. Its that simple. If it can't survive outside of the mother, then it doesn't get any rights. Rights are given to you by society, and the rights of the mother supersedes the rights of a parasite.
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+Matt Giles If a child is born, kicking and screaming, that means it no long needs to be attached to the mother to live, its no longer sucking nutrients from the mother, then it gets to have rights given to the child by society. The whole point of abortion is, what happens when the rights of the mother came into conflict with the rights of the child. Well if the child is sucking life from the mother, then the rights of the mother takes precedent. Because the mother is the one who is creating that life and sustaining that life. If a child is 1 year old, then no the mother don't get to kill it because the two rights are not in conflict.
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"Until a child can be independent, it is an infant still 100% relying on the resources, and nourishment of others." Yes relying on others. not necessary the mother. And that fetus once born is not sucking the life right out of the mother and causing a detriment to the mother's health. You want to claim that killing a child in the womb is homicide, go right ahead. I'm saying a women gets the right to commit that homicide in this circumstances. The ethical logical justification is that its self defense. The child is having an adverse effect on the mother's health, the mother gets the right to terminate. Ending a life in self defense is ethical, especially when the women created that life. That life is not yours or society to protect, its the women's own creation, the women gets to decide its fate.
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+FrankDaTank1218 Holy shit you are a moron, you can't argue your positions logically, so now you want to pull out quotes and citations. What quotes and citations do you have? All you have quoted is "thou shall not kill". Well fuck you and your bible. Learn some reading comprehension. I'm am willing to call it murder. I'm saying its justified murder just like self defense. Pregnancy is not fatal, getting hit in the face is not fatal either, but if some some one repeatedly hit me in the face and the only thing I can do to stop him is to kill him then its justified. Pregnancy is not just inconvenience, it have an adverse effect on health. Pregnancy carry the risk of death for the mother. That's enough justification to terminate if the mother chooses. I know you like to reduce a women to nothing but a walking child incubator. But women are people they have the right to choose to not give birth. Women's right supersedes that right of an fetus.
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+FrankDaTank1218 You as a women made that baby, and you as a women can unmake that baby. Simple enough logic for you?
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