Comments by "林子倫" (@zilun) on "Hong Kong opposition activist Agnes Chow and Apple Daily founder Jimmy Lai released on bail" video.

  1. The world. Just like we will forever remember Tiananmen. You guys don’t have a clue how human nature is coded, that’s why China will lose.
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  2. Well, then go tell your government to have him arrested. Oh, you can’t. You don’t have civil power.
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  3.  Mr Nice_Hong_Kong_guy  You are Chinese with that "stability" talk. Those who forgo civil liberty for security will end up losing both. Dr. Li Wenliang was silenced for "disrupting social stability". Well, did that bring about stability or global pandemic chaos? If Chinese citizens enjoy more stability, why is it that there are Chinese citizens escaping China, going to international press asking for help as their loved ones had been taken away by the state without reason, without answers, while that type of stuff don't happen in most countries? You call that type of life, stable? If Chinese enjoy stability, why do the rich and the powerful in China stash their assets and move their families to North America and hold foreign passports for precaution? Having an absolute power that can take away your livelihood any time it pleases, is NOT a life of stability.
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  4. We know what bail is. Does UK arrests citizens voicing dissents?
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  5. They are in Gulag. Tat's why they are here as CCP mouthpiece, to earn credits to reduce their time.
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  6. You forgot about those in China's prison doing it to reduce their sentence.
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  7. Meng Wanzhou is in her mansion while awaiting trial. It's standard due process.
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  8. How did Americans got their civil rights? How did Taiwanese got our civil rights?
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  9. Get creative to fight against CCP without participating in unauthorized assembly or posting tweets asking for the world to take specific actions.
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  10.  Mr Nice_Hong_Kong_guy  Dude, suing does not mean winning the case.
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  11.  @colinpeng4560  Never been to China. China's scenery is gorgeous but I'm not stepping foot on a land where authorities are above the law.
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  12.  @kevinlification  There had been far more "accidental" deaths and "suicides" than that. And that was a phone footage which could be easily, easily, be traced to original poster. Yet, was never investigated. It isn't the first time CCP used tactics to turn people vs. government into people vs. people.
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  13. Well, to be fair, civil rights are never given. It has to be taken. The one and only reason any power would “give” civil rights is when it will lose power if it does not.
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  14.  Mr Nice_Hong_Kong_guy  So why was last turnout 8:2?
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  15.  @sebastianbloh106  Try and sue police in China, you'll see the difference.
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  16. Yes. But due process doesn’t work that fast. Well, at least not until China impose even more changes to HK’s judiciary.
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  17. Correction: Organs SOLD
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  18. Like it had been?
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  19.  @louisemann3306  You think U.S. started cold war because of Agnes' tweets? Or CCP's tweet that accused U.S. military of planting the virus in Wuhan?
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  20. David Did Jimmy Lai and Angnes coached a Chinese soldier to hack into Chinese military cable and smuggle entire cable out of China’s military defense? What did Assange do immediately after having illegally obtained those database? He went to the press. Were those press censored? Nope. Are interviews with Assange censored? Nope. He did the right thing but what he did was illegal and did compromise U.S. military security. That’s what he was trialed for. Not his speech.
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  21. She didn’t get paid. The court did. Which the fund will be returned by court after she shows up for her court hearing.
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  22. Well, Taiwan’s former Secretary of State was in jail awaiting death sentence, ready to die for freedom of speech when she was her age. Civil rights enjoyed by all are never given, it is always gained, by sacrifices made by people like her. I’d love to see anyone of you still standing and not crumble under threats that she is facing now.
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  23. She didn’t deny
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  24.  Mr Nice_Hong_Kong_guy  Meng Wanzhou is accused of selling U.S. tech to Iran and she can still sue U.S. government and Canadian government, which her lawyers are in fact acting on.
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  25. Granted bail simply means the court sees low risk of them leaving the state prior to their court hearings.
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  26. HK probably would still allow, for now. CCP had eroded HK's judiciary but not that far yet. But even if they won such filing, CCP is going to overturn court's finding.
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  27. David Never said CCP can’t do whatever it wants with U.S. responding however it wants. Just making it clear Assange’s freedom of speech, freedom of press, which is non-existent in China, is still very much intact in U.S. Even Snowden’s recently published book is printed in full for U.S., while a version for Chinese market had parts censored. So, that whataboutism is a fallacy.
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  28.  @linemily6671  Their passports are being held by the court. And no fly list means no fly list, doesn't matter what passport you have. Even with fake passports, airport securities who can recognize them unless those staff lives under a rock. How about we just wait till court hearing and see if they show up? You guys believe they will run away because that's what you all would do. I would stand my ground to challenge the state if were them. That's something you all won't understand.
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  29. ​ @linemily6671  I agree holding their passports is common practice. My response was towards your "*nothing*" inappropriate. UK, US, Taiwan, all might hold passports upon bail, but they don't make arrests on people having a voice. So, whatever is going on, is not common practice in UK.
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  30. Well, the ethnic group with families enjoying the most economic success with kids receiving highest education in such a system in North America, is ... Asians. What does that tell you? Have some faith in your own people that 1.4 billion of you all can make far better judgements than a handful of power mongers.
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  31. Cafelogis Jimmy made is pretty clear he is standing his ground.
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  32. Lin Emily Okay, so that still means they are low flight risks, no?
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  33. Cafelogis Their passports are held by court with their names on no flight list. How are they going to leave? Drive to China?
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  34.  Mr Nice_Hong_Kong_guy  Lawsuits against the state has nothing to with crimes you are accused of. Suing the state is to challenge actions taken by the state to be in violation of the law or in violation of your civil rights. But I won't expect you to understand since you live your entire life in China where the state is above the law.
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  35. Cafelogis They would have left already when the law was passed, if they would now. They aren’t leaving. Especially Jimmy. He made it very clear he’s staying to fight it through even if it meant death sentence.
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  36. So why isn’t Jeff Zucker rotting in jail?
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  37.  min min  In an interview, Jeff Zuker openly threatened Trump to not mock CNN as, he claims, international image of U.S. President is shaped by however CNN pleases. Imagine Jimmy Lai making such a threat against Xi PingPingADing, would you all jump on him and call it treason?
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  38. David Nope. In China, CCP is above the law. While in U.S., Taiwan, judicial branch is independent from executive branch and legislative branch. Do you see any possibility of Assange exposing Wuhan P4 lab being painted as a hero by CHINA’s media and Chinese public for exposing Chinese government? With those illegally obtained docs to be freely published under Chinese government? The Chinese government that banned a freakin Tom Cruise original Top Gun jacket in Top Gun 2?
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  39. David If you don’t get it, imagine Assange coached a Chinese doctor to smuggle Wuhan P4 labs’ classified data out of that lab, went to a CHINESE press to PUBLISH his findings, which CHINA’s journalists then interview him with those interviews freely broadcasted IN CHINA. And Chinese filmmakers making movies of him being a hero for exposing the truth. That’ll be “U.S. same same like China” There is a reason U.S. skyrocketed to top of world within short 200 years, and that is its obsession with truth.
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  40. Is there a Sino-American treaty which U.S. promised BLM autonomy until 2047?
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  41.  Go Live  Yes, like Iraq. Did you forget about Iraq? No. Did Americans forget about Iraq? No. Even today, Americans are still debating on Trump's real stance on Iraq before U.S. invasion. Colin Powell had expressed his regret over his speech that sold Americans the war. Vice, is a recent film about Cheney, that's in top of Fair Games made to tell a story of vicious Cheney. No one forgot. And I didn't forget witnessing Americans rallying on streets of San Francisco chanting, "No Blood for Oil" before the invasion. I didn't forget watching Iraqi kids standing in front of debris saying they went to school and came home to that pile of rumble, with their parents dead, on American TV. Americans don't pretend mistakes they made never happened.
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  42.  Mr Nice_Hong_Kong_guy  Imagine your daughter, simply giving out flyers in objection to CCP's indoctrination, excuse me, education, to be in HK's curriculum, and for that, she is marked s target by mafia government. That is NOT a life of stability.
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  43.  Mr Nice_Hong_Kong_guy  Okay, again, explain the last 8:2 turnout and Apple Daily papers being sold out. Like I said, when your kids can be taken away for "wrong thought", that's not a life of stability. Parents of Tiananmen students probably went through their entire life thinking they live under stability until the day they realize they weren't.
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  44. @Jeune Homme It is not "preferred", it is human nature. It's how our human genome is wired.
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  45. Because this is SCMP, not Al Jazeera or Foreign Policy
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  46. Traitor to who? Deaths of Chinese by actions of CCP: 60 million and counting. Deaths of Chinese by actions of him: Zero.
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  47.  @jarrodyuki7081  Madoff conned minors?
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  48. Epstein wasn't rich enough? Madoff wasn't rich enough? Weinstein wasn't rich enough?
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