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Comments by "HomerOJSimpson" (@Homer-OJ-Simpson) on "Insurrection in Iran: Can the Ayatolas Regime Survive? - VisualPolitik EN" video.
Sounds a lot like Russia where Putin’s main support is rural and smaller cities along with people over 50 everywhere but in the big cities, those under 50 seem to anti Putin
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Furthermore, you’re comment sounds too much like what ayatollah supporters would say…”just keep the status quo forever”. In the long run, revolutions overthrowing an unelected leader often lead to better country.
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Nah, warlords in Afghanistan and Pakistan aren’t likely to do much because the options here are ayatollah is removed and replaced with democracy keeping the country unified or everything stays the same.
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@piruz3243 French Revolution eventually lead to democracy. As bad as Russia is today it’s much better the the even more oppressive USSR. Cubas and irán revolution weren’t a democrat one. But most democracies today became democracies through revolutions either small or large or fighting against their foreign government. Almost all the Americas for example. Much of Africa. Most European countries.
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@piruz3243 You're saying the the USSR that was HIGHLY oppressing it's people who had zero access to travel or to make any criticism and where millions were sent to gulags and died and who were involved in so many wars --- was better than Russia post USSR? Wow.
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@piruz3243 "The Iranian revolution was about political freedom and not Islam. One of the main reasons it became Islamic was the deception of Khomeini who promised political freedom when he was in France. " Yes, and they know better not to repeat it. You just want to defend the horrible oppressive regimes of the world by saying "it will never work out!" and ignoring that it did work out for so many. You bring up France...yeah, it took 70 years but it still happened and it lead to revolutions elsehwere that were much quicker in progress but you ignored.
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@piruz3243 i said in the long run, revolutions against unelected leaders generally lead to better countries. There are exceptions but those are few. I do agree that COMMUNIST revolutions are bad. The revolutions must be in support of being able to elect leaders thus the reason I mentioned “revolutions against UNELECTED leaders”. Just about every democracy today came about from revolution of some type.
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@piruz3243 Iranians current revolution is pro democracy and history shows that those generally lead to a better country in the long run. 79 revolution wasn’t pro democracy — it just wanted the shah removed. There were communist and religious groups working together who both opposed democracy and there were indeed smaller groups who were part of the revolution but were pro democracy. The revolution today in Iran would not settle for another ayatollah.
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@piruz3243 what’s funny is you’re suggesting that it’s more likely to get worse in the long run for Iranians when it’s already really bad and probably can’t get worse than the current system. This is why you’re comments are so troubling — you’re suggesting it’s likely to get worse based on nothing but ignoring that it’s already about as bad as it will get. There really is only one way to go and it’s progress. even if the next government has issues it is more likely to be better than the current regime who is considering executing 16,000 protesters!
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@piruz3243 well, I think you’re type of comments and OP often come off as being opposed to revolution against oppressive non elected leaders. Sure, not every revolution turns out well with many already from the start being bad when it’s a revolution to install another oppressive non democratic leader. But it really doesn’t seem to apply to Iran right now. This is anti Islamic government and pro democracy movement. The 79 revolution was lead by two major groups — religious extremist and communist. While both may have said they would support democracy, those type of groups rarely democratic. And in no way am I saying getting rid of the ayatollah regime will lead to smooth transition but I’m confident in the long run it will work out for them. The only possible major problem for Iran is if Kurdish region tries to break away from Iran while Iran is trying to sort out its issues. But even a free Kurdistan might be good in the good long run.
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@piruz3243 reminder of the 1979 revolution without further context will appear to be in favor of keeping the status quote. That’s how many of them operate online so without context it just looks like that. I saw that so much from pro CCP Chinese about Hong Kong. They pretend to care for Hong Kong people and many claim to be from Hong Kong but argue against the protests because it’s better not to fight the CCP.
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@piruz3243 I feel very bad for the Kurds. The Brits drew boundaries to divide the Middle East and keep people separate and in the process never gave the Kurds a country but always as the big minority to create conflict of interest- Iran Iraq and Turkey. Such a large population divided by 3 countries. Realistically, I can see them ever getting an independent country. Few countries are willing to give up lands. It’s happened relatively peaceful at times (but few) in say europe and I guess you can say the US did it with some of its territories but those US territories were not very vital to the US.
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