Comments by "Zizi Mugen" (@zizimugen4470) on "Frozen Faith: Cryonics and The Quest to Cheat Death" video.

Immortal Cosmoterran I completely understand where you're coming from, but I just don't think like that anymore. Life isn't about how long your body can keep moving. perennial crops aren't seeking the longest life possible, but they create seeds that begin new life after theirs are done. But for humans, what's the purpose of a long life if you look back and see that only a little bit of it was fulfilling? If you want a long life, then start doing things you've never done before. Do things that make you ask, "What if bad-1, bad-2, or bad-3 happens?" and then ask, "What if it doesn't?" Exercise caution, but go do something. You could live more in 30 years than someone who could stay alive to 200 years. As for progress, yes, I do want it. But before long lives potentially filled with amazing experiences, we have to look at how we treat life at this moment. In the US, humans are punished by hospitals, clinics, and insurance companies if we fall ill or get injured, making the quality of life after treatment worse. Americans are not granted access to a higher education unless they can find the money to pay for it first, which means that if you don't have a higher education, you'll likely have a difficult time trying to learn about and build upon the topic that interests you most so you could better society. I'm not against living a long life, but a fulfilled life is much more important. And before we try to extend lives for the sake of living longer, we should put our efforts into living better, overcoming the current challenges we face of toiling for half of our waking days so that we can worship the dollar in daily rituals of leaving our friends and families instead of spending time with them, laughing and dancing through life. Long life isn't of itself progress. A better life is. So before working on extending life, let's work on making it better, and then pursue longevity.
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Immortal Cosmoterran Certainly. But if I were told with absolute certainty that I will die tomorrow, and it is unavoidable, then I would simply tell my family and friends goodbye, and smile about the life I've lived so far. I've found at least the start of what it is I'm supposed to find in life, and anything after that is just bonus material.
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These poor, terrified prisoners. :/
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Immortal Cosmoterran Rationally? Trying to prevent something that is an inevitable and beautiful part of life, albeit perhaps a bit of a bummer, is not rational.
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Immortal Cosmoterran Why do you want a long life? Do you think there isn't time in a normal healthy life to do the things you want to do? Or do you maybe spend a normal life toiling most of the day with what you hate instead of chasing with more passion the things you truly want to experience in life? The late whack-job Hunter S. Thompson once said, "Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy shit, what a ride!'"
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Immortal Cosmoterran Curing aging would also lead to systematic genocide because of overpopulation. Again, death is a part of life, and it's necessary in order to sustain the greater Earth systems. Let's reduce this to something a little more everyday though. You want to solve world hunger. However, as you're pouring your efforts into solving world hunger, you don't have the ability to obtain food. You starve in your pursuit to solve that which afflicts the world. Quality must come first. After quality, we can put our efforts toward something, having solved the other things that would prevent us from being able to solve larger problems.
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Immortal Cosmoterran You'll need to do a lot more homework regarding overpopulation and "solutions." It's not as easy as "sign something saying you won't do it if you extend your life." However, longevity and quality are not directly related. Improving societal issues can lead to longevity, but developing longevity does not do anything for the quality of one's life. That is, the ability for someone to be at peace and to pursue his/her ambitions.
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Immortal Cosmoterran You can't do "mandatory" anything. Understand that now. You can't make anyone do anything, or the people will revolt, and there will be chaos. I'll say it a bit more effectively this time though: quality is not to longevity as longevity is not to quality. Yes, quality will ensure longevity. But longevity will not ensure quality. That's why societal/social quality needs to be the priority. People need to be able to live live without being punished for sickness, injury, desire to learn, etc. Once these are overcome, then quality is covered, and more minds can focus on longevity plus better quality.
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Immortal Cosmoterran I really don't have the energy to argue this. If you wish to seek a longer life, then you simply have a different philosophy than I do. I am perfectly fine dying tomorrow, because I have done more since waking up than most people have done in 70 years of life. I'll chase quality, and you can chase longevity.
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