Comments by "Orbital_Inclination" (@Orbital_Inclination) on "J-35A: China's answer to F-35 fighter jet makes first public appearance" video.

Given the amount of stuff we all buy from China, anyone who says no isn't being completely honest
7
No thanks, bot.
6
 @pplesandoranges the US dominated militarily in Afghanistan. The issue there was political, not military.
3
@xsqweasd there are noticeable visual differences between the F-22, F-35, J-20, KAAN, Boromae, Su-57 etc, despite all being optimised in the same way. The forward fuselage sections of the F-35 and J-35 are virtually identical.
3
The front end similarities of this aircraft and the F-35 are too uncanny to claim that. The F-22, F-35, J-20 etc all have noticeable differences. The forward fuselage of the J-35 and F-35 are virtually identical.
2
A simple look at the forward fuselage shows almost a perfect copy of the shape of the F-35, far more than would be expected of pure coincidence.
2
why would they? They're not in a military alliance with any US or European nation. Why would they give other nations the data on how to defeat them by exercising against them? When was the last time the US invited Russia or China to take part in an exercise against their F-22s or F-35s? Even when the US trains against allies, it doesn't use war modes of its radars to keep those frequencies and power radiation magnitudes classified.
2
 @kinwaisiu9414 literally none of that is true, incredible.
2
Some of what you say is true, but comparing the front half of the F-35 and J-35, that's more than just similar. They're essentially nearly identical. The F-22, F-35, Su-57 and J-20 all look different, so it's not really credible to say that the visual similarities of the front of the J-35 are anything other than blatant copying.
1
 @frank-ko6de Porcelain is widely used globally for crockery such as plates. It's moved on a lot from the 14th century though.
1
@brand8590 what do you mean by production movement? As for flight characteristics, none of those would be worth assessing from an airshow routine beyond a very broad indication of things like excess thrust, for the reason I've already stated that the displays are pre-planned and so not indicative of a full flight envelope. Contrails aren't really an indicator of anything other than combustion efficiency (ie smog production) Reaction time (wherever you actually mean by that) is a broadly pointless metric to measure, and has no real relevance to any of the performance characteristics we've been discussing. Again, the use of the phrase 'not stealth' indicates a lack of awareness of what that term actually means. To clarify, what exactly do you think 'stealth' means?
1
@rain2016-hz you don't need simulation data to see that the F-35 and J-35 front ends are virtually identical. To claim this is due to mass and balance is a feeble cope. They even share the same forward hinging canopy that the F-35 only employs because of the location of the lift fan on the B variant. That's a dead giveaway.
1
Same attitude the US had about Japan before Pearl Harbor
1
Most of the global China criticism comes from some of the world's most developed economies. By comparison, china's belt and road initiative and associated goodwill PR campaigning has been focused heavily on developing economies and poorer nations.
1
 @chasseausanglier3390 a fact which is not unique to those nations in the slightest, and irrelevant when looking at over-all national prosperity
1
@brand8590 most analysis is simply guesswork given the highly secretive nature of China's aerospace development. Half the time, this has boiled down to crude analysis of photos taken with telescopic lenses from around Chinese airfields. No-one without a significant security clearance has access to any radar, avionics or 'stealth' (internal LO features, materials, RCS, etc) data, and talking about it publicly would be a great way of ending up in prison for breach of said clearance. The phrase 'certainly not stealth' shows a lack of understanding, as 'stealth' isn't a binary thing, it's a sliding scale. A basic analysis of the external features of the J-35 and J-20 would indicate that their RCS is most likely lower in the front hemisphere than a typical 4th gen fighter of comparable size, but again without knowing the materials, internal features and other aspects of the design, there's no definitive way of actually knowing.
1
Standard AI bot answer
1
It was developed from a prototype known by a number of names, both official and otherwise, such as J-31, F-60, J-21, Snowy Owl or Falcon Hawk. The production model was given the designation J-35.
1
 @Oxley016 J-20? There are no other LO long range canard interceptors of that kind anywhere in the world.
1
Pretty hard to make that claim with no classified rcs data
1
Why would China do that? They're not allied to France, so why would they debut their latest fighter alongside a nation they have no military ties with? The first F-22 debut at RIAT in the UK also didn't involve any other aircraft from another nation flying alongside it. Why all the double standards?
1
@theylied1776 when was the last time the Russians brought one of their jets to a US airshow? There is also a significant difference between a demo and a flypast. In any case, choosing not to do a flypast with another nation has zero relevance to the performance of this aircraft. None. Airshow flying isn't representative of the true capabilites of any aircraft, just what looks good to the public. Whether China chooses to conduct flypasts with other nations is irrelevant.
1
@theylied1776 the point is that China doesn't really have the best political relationship with much of the Western world at the moment, certainly not NATO or the US, in the same way that Russia hasn't displayed any of its jets alongside NATO counterparts whilst relations have been less than ideal. I've been to plenty of airshows. Do you seriously not know the difference? A demo is what this video shows, a dynamic series of manoeuvres intended to showcase certain operational capabilites and put on a show. A flypast is just that, the jet does a pass or two with no aerobatics. The former takes months of training to perfect, and isn't done in conjunction with other nations due to the dangers that would present, and is conducted under some sort of display authority. A flypast, on the otherhand, can be easily conducted with partner nations and doesn't require the same stringent pre-approval for display safety. Russia and the US have never demo'd their jets next to each other. They have, however, conducted joint flypasts. In any case, it's still irrelevant, as a joint display would not reveal anything noteworthy about the participating aircraft, as the profiles they fly are pre-planned and therefore usually don't replicate actual combat envelopes or capabilities. Therefore, China's refusal to conduct a flypast with France is more of a political snub than ant kind of admission of inferior performance, given that flying in a straight line past a crowd isn't exactly taxing on an airframe.
1
 @xinke-o9p a two week old bot account? Chinese bot farms really are working overtime on this story.
1
 @kinwaisiu9414 none of what you've said is actually true.
1
And you know it's radar, avionics and stealth capabilities how, exactly?
1