Comments by "Dawn Smith" (@smithdawn1) on "Woman at center of adoption scandal speaks out | ABC News" video.

  1. Well she is 16 here and that’s pretty much full grown so of course she’d appear more adult than child. But you can see from early photos to now that she aged from child to near adult
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  2. That’s what they “said”. People facing jail time and loss of reputation will say just about anything
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  3. Just Revealed—Bio mom confirmed via DNA. Game over. She is her mother. She did give birth to a baby w/dwarfism Sept 2003. She did put baby in orphanage. Natalia records show she entered orphanage as Baby in 2003. Done ✅
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  4.  @kaycrawley7496  Agree. The DNA results are in and she is the mother.
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  5.  @matf4505  She DID have a hard time surviving. That’s why neighbors noticed and kept calling CHILD protective services. She was obviously a child.
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  6. They have all her medical and dental records which say she was no older than 11 back in 2012. They also have her 41 yr old birth mother and original records. She definitely was born 2003
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  7.  @harrypponder7396  She wasn’t “mistaken” for 6. The Barnetts adopted her in 2010. She really was 6. This episode of Dr Phil is from 2019, hence she is 16 on the show.
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  8. Actually her birth mother was found and the girl really is 16 here
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  9.  @TBHItzMia  Believing preposterous claims that are against the great weight of the evidence has a long history in the US of producing strange fruit.
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  10.  @dragon_4296  Her birth mother WAS located & confirmed via DNA. She has original records which prove the girl was born in 2003 like her original birth certificate said.
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  11.  @RR-pf3pm  No, age estimates in children are not a 10yr range. Children have growth plates, adults do not. Natalia’s age estimates were all in line with the 2003 birthdate. Dr Riggs, endocrinologist, estimated 8 when she was 7; Skeletal survey estimated 11 when she was 8; EZ Dental estimated 8-9 when she was 7; Dentist Dr Deckard estimated 6-9 when she was 8. There is no chance she was an adult already.
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  12.  @camiosis9024  Seventeen yrs old is still a minor in the state of Indiana.
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  13.  @audacity2hope645  ALL the professionals who conducted testing confirmed ages consistent with her birth certificate. Every.Single.One. An estimate of 8 was consistent with her age of 7; an estimate of 8-9 was consistent with her age of 7; an estimate of 11 was consistent with her age of 8; an estimate of 6-9 was consistent with her age of 8. The only people who described her behavior as violent were the Barnetts. The child protection professionals thought she was a Child as evidenced by them filing a Child in Need of Services petition. Importantly, No One ever filed juvenile or adult charges against Natalia or even made a police report alleging she committed violence. Interesting how you keep trying to mislead people.
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  14. Her bio mom is only 40. Highly improbable she gave birth at 10
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  15.  @FrankCosbyNo-Relation  “Doctors” is plural. You should have said “doctor” because there was only 1 doctor who backed up Barnetts. The other drs told them she was a child.
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  16. She didn’t ask to come here. She was 4yrs old & in an orphanage when 2 people from America showed up and adopted her. She had ZERO say. She’s been treated like garbage
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  17. That’s exactly what the media did. Court docket revealed dad hired a PR firm right off the bat. It worked
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  18. Considering as the Ciccones adopted her at age 4 and brought her here in July 2008, as confirmed by immigration & adoption records, of course she speaks like a native speaker
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  19. Still with her true family. Not from their blood, not from their bone, but she is their daughter, finally home (9yrs!)
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  20.  @johnc1280  She’s 16 in this video, not 6. Her voice has reached its adult sound. Doesn’t sound very rational to think her voice now would help you determine if 10yrs ago she was a child.
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  21. Because they DO know what happened—Barnetts are liars who abandoned a child. They know. They’ve raised her for 7 yrs. They also were in communication w/dad Michael
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  22. The bone scan she remembers, that she’s talking about, said she was 14 & was performed in 2017. Based on her original birth certificate 14 is spot on.
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  23. @David Mora She was born in 2003. Barnetts defrauded the court to get her birth year amended to 1989.
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  24. You must not have watched the show. Because what she said to Dr Phil was that “Kristine CLAIMS” she was with 30 diff families. Well, Kristine claims a LOT of things that aren’t true.
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  25.  @johnc1280  100% Wrong. Barnett’s interviews claimed that. HOWEVER, in their court filings they did not mention A SINGLE TEST which showed she was adult & their own pictures show Baby teeth
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  26.  @leorioswife  It has been scientifically established that Natalia was a minor when Barnetts adopted her and when they abandoned her. Then with the DNA confirmation of her birth mom it is shown beyond any reasonable doubt that she was a child born 2003 (she turned 18 in September), but her amended birth certificate says 1989.. Sadly, the Court of Appeals said that age based charged cannot go forward because of the “legal” age change that was never overturned. 3 other counts were dismissed because it was past the Statute of Limitations. So what remains are 3 felony counts of neglect of a dependent related to disability and without regard to age. Trial dates have not yet been set. Of course Barnett supporters are trying to spin this, rather than admit the truth—Barnetts [partially] got off because of technicalities
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  27. Did you miss the part where they said she Ran to the water at the beach? They were “shocked” because she couldn’t walk. BUT they contradicted themselves cause they said she Ran to meet them. Liars.
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  28. The Barnetts took her to specialists to have her age assessed. In 2010 the endocrinologist estimated her age as approximately 8 yrs old. In 2012 the orthopedic surgeon estimated her age as approximately 11 years old. Then there’s the dental findings. In 2011 Kristine specifically asked that her age be assessed and the dentists opinion was that she was between 8 & 9 yrs old. Again, with a different dentist in 2012 taking more x rays assessed her age as between 6 & 9. Incredibly, in 2012 the Barnetts IGNORED all the professionals and motioned the court to change her age from 8 to 22 yrs old. They WITHHELD all those findings. This is a disturbing miscarriage of justice, designed by the Barnetts to shield them from legal repercussions when they ejected her from their home and placed her in an apartment.
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  29.  @ItsMe-Kiki  When you post defamatory lies in a public forum you are inviting a response. Get over yourself
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  30. They claimed that but still finalized the adoption 6 months later!! Also made a big deal saying “she didn’t have an accent”, acting like she wasn’t from Ukraine, now BioMom confirmed
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  31. I wish more people realized that like you do. It’s heartbreaking to see her bashed when she isn’t the one who did anything wrong. She’s been through so much already
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  32. That smile said “Absurd isn’t? For the nutty Barnetts to make such an obviously false claim”
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  33.  @camiosis9024  You forgot the part where Michael admitted Kristine was coaching Natalia to lie. And who was arrested ?? 😂 Not Natalia
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  34. @Rohan Tandra Natalia didn’t have a period at 6 either. It’s a lie and you bought it and are now defending child abusers
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  35.  @thetraveler1182  I’m just a mom standing up for girl who was the victim of 2 disgusting adoptive parents. Unlike you who’s aligned yourself with abusers. Shameful
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  36.  @harrypponder7396  It was the prosecutor who said that the birth mom was confirmed by DNA (said at a pretrial hearing). No way would they tank the case by lying. That’d be prosecutorial misconduct.
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  37.  @user-tj7tu9gv4s  Yes Rose. They had her age legally changed, which is why it says that. But they defrauded the court. She is actually 17 now. Her original birth certificate was correct
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  38.  @camiosis9024  You’ll understand when you’re grown up. Maybe. Hopefully🙏🏼
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  39. Sophiaprogamer 12 Oh for Pete’s sake! She started losing baby teeth at age 6 like most everyone does. Her adult teeth growing in are visible in the pics. Her face is a baby face. Barnetts are liars
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  40.  David Haag  She absolutely is 17.
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  41.  @rebeccarunyon5880  I wish I had something profound to say. Some words of wisdom to ease the pain you experienced. It’s admirable you survived under such difficult circumstances. Somewhere inside you there must be a core of inner strength. You were not defeated. I hope good things come your way.
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  42. Not from Ukraine? Lol The Ciccones traveled to Ukraine to adopt her there.
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  43.  @spasegeek9214  Barnett supporters aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed
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  44.  @Brandon-gs5ot  The DNA testing was ordered back in Dec 2019. Then there was silence pertaining to the testing. Then in mid August this year, judge ordered the age related neglect charges dropped. Saying basically that the 2012 age change was a done deal. Then about 2 weeks later the prosecution revealed that they would call the birth mother in as a witness to prove her age. Thus it was confirmed that Anna Gava was the birth mother. But it didn’t matter to the judge, he said he couldn’t allow the prosecution to “re-try” the age issue. Now it’s all on hold as an appeal was filed with court of appeals, asking—to void the age change or to allow jury to decide is she was a minor or not. Here’s reporting on birth mother: https://amp.jconline.com/amp/3412866001 Here’s birth mom interview https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7547259/Birth-mother-Ukrainian-dwarf-denies-claims-adult-sociopath-masquerading-child.html But for the treasure trove of info and actual filings from Both sides, go to court website and search under Michael P Barnett and then Kristine Barnett. Def see the amended probable cause affidavit that’s linked in Michael’s case. mycase.in.gov
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  45.  @johnc1280  Would you not agree that actual source documents are more reliable than a random entertainer’s video?
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  46. Michael paid the bills and she had a home care aid. They brought her food she could microwave. What else was there for her to do besides eat & bathe? A 9 yr old can do that
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  47.  @cloudyxsxies583  The Barnetts are downright Diabolical. They deserve everything they’re getting over this, and then some. Thankfully the Mans have shown her real parental love & care
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  48.  @camiosis9024  Michael Barnett confessed she was a child and admitted that Kristine had coached her to lie and say she was older. It’s in the probable cause affidavit.
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  49.  @camiosis9024  Terrible, isn’t it? Despite iron clad proof she was abandoned as a minor child, including her DNA confirmed birth mom, the Barnetts get some charges dismissed because Statute of Limitations
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  50. Natalia was a real child. Her adoptive parents fraudulently changed her age then booted her out of the house. The dad even admitted it. It’s in the published police report. They aren’t victims, she is
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  51. Were all the Drs and dentists who told the Barnetts she was a child lying, too? How about the dad michael? When he confessed to police, was he lying?
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  52.  @johnc1280  Of course I realize that. That understanding was the basis for my question to you asking you if you agreed that source documents were more reliable than an entertainers video.
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  53.  @dcaseng  She was born in 2003. In addition to dad Michael confessing, the numerous medical Drs & dentists who told Barnetts she was a child, now there is her birth mother too.
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  54.  @Bellezfitness  They lied about the results of her different testing. All the tests showed she was a child. Like the full skeletal survey in 2012. They est her age as 11. They looked at her growth plates
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  55.  @damesaphira9790  You have a lot of incorrect information. If you’re really interested, go to the Indiana court website and read the filings. Undisputed is that Natalia came here with her first adoptive parents Gary and Dyan Ciccone, who adopted her in Ukraine in July 2008. Natalia’s birth certificate said she was born Sept 2003. Which means she was 4 when she immigrated, not 6. As for language, no “lawyers” set up any test. The Barnetts claimed a Ukrainian friend spoke to her and she didn’t understand. What they failed to disclose is that Natalia NEVER spoke Ukrainian. She spoke Russian. It’s in her medical records (the DePauls shared these) that a doctor (David Harris, Boston Children’s Hospital) had to use a Russian translator to communicate with her. So, there was never any Real controversy. This fake language controversy was manufactured by the Barnetts. The way they’ve manufactured all their lies. See how easy it was for them to trick people? That’s cause Michael Barnett hired a PR firm (Herd Strategies) to help craft their narrative and get their story out first. That he hired them is in the court records publicly available. As for the medical evidence- Dr Riggs, endocrinologist, evaluated her in Oct 2010. He estimated her age as approximately 8. So, period or not is irrelevant. (Natalia denies ever having one). The specialist is endocrinology which deals with hormones said she was 8. Then in June 2012 she had a full skeletal x ray at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital. This would specifically focus on growth plates as it was done for age estimation. The results were an age estimate of 11. ELEVEN ! She had growth plates. Usually around age 15/16 for females the growth plates “close”. What left is a growth line. These weren’t the only x rays. She had dental x rays as well which yielded age estimates. In 2011 est 8-9; in 2012 est 6-9. X rays don’t lie. She was a child.
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  56. @Oliver Walker Her name is Anna Gava, gave Daily Mail an interview a yr ago. Judge gave order Natalia to be tested w/o Barnett consent. Results finally revealed in August this year
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  57.  @lorrainemuller4609  Remember though, the Barnetts were not the first adopters, the Ciccones were (see my comment above yours). Adoption specialists advise that a young child the age Natalia was when first adopted will lose their first language within 6 months. Another thing about the Barnetts claim (about their friend who spoke Ukrainian to her) is that Natalia had spoken Russian not Ukrainian. That an early doctor had used a Russian translator with her was in her records, so what’s up with their story.
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  58.  @catalinaramirez6495  That’s a legitimate question. Here Natalia’s dwarfism helps her prove the truth. Because the baby her mother gave birth to had dwarfism and the records indicated that. None of her biological siblings have dwarfism. The orphanage records also show the admitted baby had dwarfism. So there is no reasonable uncertainty, the baby born Sept 2003 was her.
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  59. Who cares? She was a kid when Barnetts ditched her. The detective uncovered her old hidden records and she’s even had more recent testing. She was a child, now a teen
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  60.  @johnc1280  The 2012 test was a full skeletal survey. This looks at growth plates, not bone density. More importantly if you look at the Barnetts own court filings, which are publicly available on the court website, they do not mention one single test of any kind that indicated she was an adult or a teenager. They do not list one single test that the prosecution does not mention. So although they claim the existence of such testing in their various interviews, the actual record contains no such claims nor any such references. I think it’s the Barnetts who have fooled you with their appearance, similar to your Cosby example. I’m curious why you’re so convinced by them. I notice you didn’t even bother to respond with your opinion of her appearance from 12 years ago, which ought to enlighten you as to who’s in the right or wrong in this situation
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  61. @Lady Jay Mac Sounds like they are lying about the hair
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  62. @David Mora Gullible is believing a ripped-from-a-movie-script defense. Apparently you have no idea how much evidence there is against these cretins
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  63. 6 yrs with ZERO problems. But sure let’s all believe the criminal defendants fantastical story.
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  64.  @xv9021  Everything I said is a fact. I left links to prove it. Clearly you didn’t read anything. Then you post a year+ old video by IO as your proof. Seriously? When almost everything in that video has been disproved? And it was made before the birth mom was confirmed by DNA. It also was made before the 2nd probable cause affidavit was released that gives the run down of all the medical and dental evidence that Barnetts concealed from the age-changing judge in 2012. The most pathetic thing is how these you tubers seem to not do any fact checking whatsoever. N has been with the Mans since Aug 2013, a month after Barnetts fled the jurisdiction of the US. The Mans communicated regularly with Michael. They have the records and texts to prove it. Point being, she was never missing. Do you know that eviction records are public? The records prove she wasn’t evicted from Aspire. They also prove the Barnetts didn’t pay a whole year in advance on the second apt because she did get evicted and sued for back rent long before a year of supposed pre-payment was up. Literally lie after lie after lie from the Barnetts that is PROVEN via independent records. It’s down right laughable that any one would still believe their preposterous stories. Seriously. Reply with 1 or 2 things you think “proves” she was an adult and I’ll point you to the real proof. Lastly, there is NO DNA test available that proves a person’s CHRONOLOGICAL age. If you think “biological age” is synonymous with “chronological age” you are sadly mistaken.
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  65.  @catalinaramirez6495  It’s an autosomal recessive trait. So it’s passed along NOT on the x or Y chromosome. Recessive means you need a copy from mom AND dad to show the disorder. People carry the gene unknowingly. It’s similar to how some brown eyed people carry the gene for blue eyes.
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  66.  @claudeyaz  The birth mom is 41. She was married but separated at the time of Natalia’s birth in Sept 2003. Natalia is her 2nd child. She has all her pregnancy records showing she gave birth to a girl with dwarfism. Her other children don’t have dwarfism. Time to face the facts- Barnetts are lying and abandoned a child
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  67. How about the criminal defendants? Why haven’t they taken lie detector tests? Oh, that’s right, too late, dad Michael already confessed. Was his confession a lie 😂
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  68.  @johnc1280  Opinions vary concerning how old a person looks at the age of 16. But I don’t believe you could possibly look at a photo of her at age 6, like the photo on Ready To Glare’s video where she wearing the blue costume dress w white turtle neck, and honestly say she looks like an adult or even a teenager. Barnetts want you to believe she’s 20yrs old in that photo, where she’s missing a front baby tooth and you see the adult tooth growing in. More important than the photos, however, are her medical and dental x rays, the results were in the probable cause affidavit (published). In 2012 the med x rays est her age as 11, and the dentist est her age from dental x rays as 6 to 9.
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  69.  @lilfadeakaadam7576  Natalia has Diastrophic Dysplasia. Tell me how that causes her to “age slower” and what exactly you mean by “age slower”
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  70.  @AfraidMonsters  Nope, you’re not the only walnut who saw something that wasn’t there because of confirmation bias
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  71.  @AnneOhn123  Absolutely correct. In the well publicized BARNETT’S photo of her, taken May 2010, in the white w color stripes top, you can clearly see all her teeth are baby except the 2 front
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  72. Nearly impossible for her to be in 30’s cause her DNA confirmed BioMom is only 40, plus bioM has her original birth certificate & Hospital records. N was definitely born in 2003
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  73. 4 remaining felony charges going forward and also a bonu$>> There’s a hearing about Kristine violating the gag order.
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  74. No, he doesn’t think she’s an adult. He knows her birth mother was found and proves she was born in 2003. He’s just playing for ratings.
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  75. @Ansel Hansen She never did speak Ukrainian. She spoke Russian. Like all children adopted at a very young age, she lost her original language.
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  76.  @johnc1280  You felt you knew enough to disparage and cast doubt on her. But you don’t think I know enough to staunchly defend her?? That’s an interesting position. I am vaccinated and couldn’t care less whether you are or not. You’re old enough to decide for yourself what medical care you choose to receive. We both must live with the choices we’ve made. As for MJ, I believe the guy was a predator. I read and analyzed JC’s evaluation by Dr Gardner (himself a creepy apologist) and found it to be credible that he was telling the truth. Coincidentally, guess who recently posted a defense of MJ on her faceB? Kristine Barnett.
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  77.  @scubatuba1083  Cam has been spreading lies for 2+ years now. She also says the most disparaging & ableist things about Natalia and makes fun of her appearance
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  78.  @yakubkayal4370  You realize the abandonment took place 10 years ago, right? She’s not a little kid anymore
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  79. The Barnetts think just because they spoke first that it means their version is the truth. Let’s recall their claims- Natalia ran in the room to meet them, but later they claim she ran to the beach and this was somehow manipulative because she “couldn’t walk”. I guess they forgot she “ran into the room” earlier. (Barnetts Lie) Kristine said before they left for Canada they paid “An entire years rent In Advance”, but Michael said they only paid 3 months in advance. The court records show an eviction lawsuit filed against Natalia for Back Rent, filed 9 months in. (Kristine Lies). Kristine said they paid rent and Natalia had Social Security for her other needs. But Michael was getting her Social Security as her Representative Payee. So she DIDN’T have SSI for her other needs (Kristine Lies). Kristine said she co-signed for Natalia’s LaFayette apartment, but the lawsuit for back rent was ONLY filed against Natalia. Co-signers get named in lawsuit. Kristine didn’t get named. (Kristine lied). They said She tried to Kill Kristine but pushing or dragging her into an “electric fence”, but a Farmer’s livestock fence CAN’T kill you. (Barnetts lied). Again they claimed she tried to Kill Kristine by putting Pinesol/bleach/chemicals in Kristine’s coffee, but there were NO chemicals in her coffee (Barnetts lie). Barnetts claim she “stood over” them in bed at night, but their bed was a captain’s style with drawers underneath making it over 3 feet high. It’s impossible for her to stand over them (Barnetts lied). Further, their son is on record in an interview talking about “not sleeping” at night and actually said “I scare people”. So their son is the one scaring people but they blame Natalia (Barnetts Lie). They claim the first night they gave her a bath and she had hair. Michael admitted to going into the bathroom and staring at his brand new daughter’s private area!! Super creepy abuse flag!! Natalia had no chest development. Chest always precedes hair. (Barnetts lied about hair, so WHY was that man looking at her naked when he’s known her less than 24 hrs?!? Creepy abuse flag). I’m not even going to mention Kristine violating her with the tam pon. That nastiness speaks for itself. Barnetts lied about her age, what they admit to is abuse in and of itself. They deserve jail time.
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  80. @Rohan Tandra Child neglect IS child abuse. I provided links to reported medical & dental evidence she was a child PLUS the dad admitted it. It was a 5yr+ investigation. They’re guilty
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  81. @Rohan Tandra I’m sticking up for the kid because the kid is the victim here and it’s utterly revolting to see her being dragged through the mud by her abusers and their apologists.
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  82. @Holly Dunn IF she’s 30, that would mean she’s 20 in this photo in Ready To Glare’s video. Do you really think she looks 20 here? https://youtu.be/vBSl9jS4oFI
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  83. The DNA results are on record from the court hearing back in August. Birth mom is only 41 and Natalia was her 2nd child. Barnetts are busted. Losers.
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  84. Well she was 4 when she left with the first parents who adopted her. How big a con can a 4 yr old be?
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  85.  @thetraveler1182  If you want to believe lies, then blindly accept what Cam & her alt accts say. If you want the truth, then verify all claims for yourself, that’s what I’ve done
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  86.  @camiosis9024  Don’t forget counts 2, 4 & 6. Adding count 8 that makes 4 felony counts of Neglect of a Dependent. Oh, and the Violation of the court’s order against only Kristy, scheduled for May
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  87. I KNOW Barnutts are lying about a lot of things. So are you Cam
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  88.  @SARINA2K7  It was a maternity test!! Just as reliable as a paternity test. Reject science all you want so you can side with abusers
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  89.  @bighands69  Incorrect. The reporter was in the courtroom back in August 2020 and it WAS revealed in court that the birth mother was confirmed by DNA. The birth mom is only 41.
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  90. That’s terrible. I hope you’re in a better place now. You didn’t deserve that.
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  91.  @johnc1280  I’m not understanding what you mean
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  92.  @Xforeverlove21  That’s exactly what Kristine Barnett did to her. Lied and tried to gaslight her, but Natalia didn’t fall for it.
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  93.  @camiosis9024  Who was arrested?? Lol Not Natalia. What does the police affidavit say? That Michael admitted she was a child when they left her and Kristine coached her to lie about her age
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  94. People are easily fooled. They listen to lies and ignore their own eyes. She grew taller, lost the baby face, lost her baby teeth too, all things adults don’t do
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  95.  @Makisa626  Thank you. These other morons act like it’s a he said/she said and completely ignore the irrefutable scientific evidence. Guess they’re too dumb to understand science
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  96.  @daundisputedtake7238  What makes you sure of that?
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  97. They found her birth mother. She’s only 40. DNA confirmed. Has all the original paperwork proving her birth daughter is only 17 today https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  98. You’re an amazing young lady, Natalia. You are a survivor ❤️💙❤️💙❤️💙
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  99. @The Joker Explain what would cause an 8yr old to NOT survive. She had food & shelter. Barnetts visited couple times a wk. Home care worker too. So why can’t she survive?
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  100.  @emmas1082  How do you know how old you are? You have a birth certificate, right? So did she. She had an authentic birth certificate issued at birth. She knows her age, she was 16
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  101. Barnetts crafted a slick plan to get out of the adoption w/o having to go to court. They simply filed an age change motion & it got signed. No hearing/testimony/evidence. WTF?!
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  102. They aren’t as polished as the Barnetts with their public relations firm guiding them and years of experience being in front of the cameras, but they are honest & good people
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  103. She wasn’t 20. She was a child. That’s why the state is going through the expense of prosecuting those degenerates
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  104. If you had watched the episode when it aired you would see that her expression was mirroring Dr Phil’s expression. This clip doesn’t show the face Phil was making. What you are doing is reaching conclusions based upon incomplete information. Just like about her Halloween costume. You assume she chose it. Yet when she was with the DePauls she wore a princess costume. Probably because Mrs DePaul is a normal loving mother, unlike Kristine.
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  105.  @zachorvik8361  They changed her birth certificate 14 years. She came over when she was 4. Are there plenty of 18 yr olds that can pass as 4 yr olds?? Quite unbelievable, wouldn’t you agree?
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  106.  @JD-tm4ee  If she was really an adult she would figure it out. The idea that “hiding knives” saved them is truly laughable and only works if she was a child. But they say she was an adult.
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  107. @camiosis She’s gotten taller, hands larger, face matured and doesn’t look baby faced like she did when Barnutts adopted her.
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  108.  @tastytoes791  What made it “obvious” she’d gone through puberty? The lack of chest development or the fact she had mostly baby teeth (both evident in pics)?
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  109. Isn’t ridiculous? All the people saying “She has no accent” as if that’s evidence she was an adult, rather that being correctly seen as evidence she was a child.
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  110. I agree Carolee. She came over at age 4 not speaking English, it’s in her medical records. This just shows how weirdly the Barnetts lie. Michael even said he didn’t believe she was from Ukraine. Lol
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  111. @12227UserName She didn’t get her GED. But bless her heart for trying to keep up. She’s a trooper. She needs to be in regular school as is her right. But Barnetts screwed her outta her education
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  112. @0MohawkWarrior0 That’s bullsht. Complete utter bullsht. The Mans have NOT said that.
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  113. @Holly Dunn Let’s not forget that Barnetts claimed she had all her adult teeth. The DePaul’s photos prove this was a lie. Natalia started losing baby teeth at age 6. Exactly as most everyone else. Dental abnormalities can occur with or without a genetic disorder. Retained baby teeth/delayed dentition/hypodontia is NOT a hallmark of Diastrophic Dysplasia (it IS associated with hypopituitarism/pituitary dwarfism, which is NOT Natalia’s condition)
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  114. @ladev91 Ooh looks like you’ve drawn the ire of the famous Barnutter “Camiosis”. For pointing out what everyone with a brain already knows. N was a child. Born 2003. Proven. ✅
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  115. Don’t forget the ReAllY scary pictures she drew. With crayons. CRAYONS I tell you. Terrifying. I shudder to think what might have happened if she had had Markers.
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  116. Lmao Hardly. Go to the blog and just look at all the photos. Nov 2009 in her jammies with her front tooth missing & other adult one growing in. Only a fool thinks that’s an adult https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  117. I think they needed to preemptively discredit her, so that if she told what was going on in that home no one would believe her. They didn’t file police reports—Lying to police is trouble
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  118. @The Joker Are you on Reddit? This post has a photo at the very top that was taken by the Mans and posted to faceB in Aug 2013. That is was Natalia looked like right after Barnetts left her in LaFayette and moved to Canada. She obviously had not gone through puberty. https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/daabz5/michael_and_kristine_barnett_the_parents_of_an/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I think trying to determine truth AFTER determining motive is backwards. Motive is a subjective opinion. Let the known facts guide you, then hypothesize possible motives. You cannot determine facts simply by assuming there isn’t a motive. This is why in a criminal case the prosecution is not required to prove a motive. Only actions need to be proven. The Barnetts were getting Natalia’s SSI money. They paid rent with HER benefits, as required by law. They were not spending their own money. A newspaper reported that Natalia’s medical record from her time w/first adoptive family (Ciccones) in 2008 showed that the Dr (from Boston Children’s Hospital) had to use a translator to communicate w/Natalia. This proves Natalia spoke her native language in July 2008. Being that she was 4 then, and 6 when Barnetts got her in May 2010, it’s not surprising at all that she’d have lost her original language. She was immersed in an English only family & culture. She wasn’t in 30 homes. That a Barnett lie. If you watched Michael’s interviews, you’d hear him say the Ciccones were in the next room at the agency and had literally relinquished Natalia only 5 min before Barnetts arrived. This timeline proves there could not have been 30 families. Do you think it’s possible that the Ciccones were unable to figure out that the 4 yr old they went to Ukraine to adopt was really a secret adult?? That seems impossible to me. The DePauls have dwarfism and they and their daughter do not look like children. They also insist Natalia was a child. They spent a few weekends with Natalia while they were negotiating to adopt her from the Ciccones. Mrs DePaul bathed Natalia along with her own daughter. Yet Mrs DePaul insists Natalia was in fact a child.
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  119.  @mlyniecm  Look at all the photos. Then you will know they lied. You will see a mouthful of baby teeth. Only the middle two were adult when Barnetts got her. (Edited a typo)
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  120.  @sukumackenzie8054  It’s fascinating— The propensity to believe in ever more complex conspiracies, rather than the simple truth that the Barnetts are bad people
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  121.  @chelsee_bbtte841  The Barnetts (2nd adopters, arrested) gave interviews. The DePauls (want-to-be, almost adopters) gave an interview, the Mans (current family) did Dr Phil interview. The Ciccones (original adopters, the ones who went to Ukraine and adopted her) have NEVER given a single interview. I think you confusing their names, saying Ciccones when you referring to the Barnetts (Michael & Kristine).
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  122.  @chelsee_bbtte841  I don’t know where you’re getting that but the Ciccones have NEVER given an interview. Further not Ciccones, nor DePauls, nor Barnetts shared any video of her talking. The ONLY video of her talking is from her current family the Mans and is from Nov 2018 and she says Happy Thanksgiving. Maybe a news was talking about the Ciccones or Barnetts and played the Mans video, giving a false impression? Many outlets did that with photos. But I’ve followed this for 2 yrs. there’s no earlier video than the Mans
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  123.  @emmas1082  Obviously I’ve watched this video. The parents were charged, not her. What does that tell you?
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  124.  @emmas1082  What do you mean “produce it at court”? It was produced at court when the Barnetts adopted her in their home state of Indiana back in 2010
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  125. Doctors told Barnetts she was a child. Dentists told Barnetts she was a child. They’re going to be convicted
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  126.  @johndean5036  And yet after a thorough investigation the only evidence uncovered was against the parents.
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  127. @Faanzeon Lam Look, Barnetts did a good job of getting their story out there. But most of what you think is true, is NOT true. Take this “rent” story. The truth is that as soon as they convinced the judge to change her birthdate, she became “22” and instantly old enough to qualify for social security income for disabled adults who cannot work. So Barnetts signed her up for social security BUT they also said she wasn’t capable of handling the SSI money and they got Michael appointed to be Natalia’s “Representative payee”. What this meant was money that social security was giving for Natalia, went directly to Michael and he was supposed to spend it on her according to social security rules. So the TL;DR is Barnetts wrote the checks for the rent, but they didn’t PAY the rent. They paid with Natalia’s money. Additionally facts now known is that Natalia was only in the LaFayette apt about 5-6 weeks all alone, until the Mans family took her in and under their wing.
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  128. She’s grown taller and her face has matured.
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  129.  @camiosis  Mackenzie’s video showed her 2 front top teeth where the baby ones shed & adult ones grew in. Then in Barnett’s pic you see 2 front adult ones w all others baby teeth
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  130.  @SammyMFsosaaa  Yes, the Dr who estimated her age as 8 was Dr Riggs, head of Growth Disorder department at PM Children’s hospital. He didn’t write any report for Barnetts
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  131.  @brianpeterson8667  Is that so Brian? And who would that be? Barnutts adopted her from the Ciccones, Ciccones adopted her in Ukraine. Where’s the others?? 😂🤣😂
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  132.  @camiosis9024  Can’t have court hearing transcripts from 2012 when there wasn’t a court hearing 😂🤣😂 You make it up you go along. Almost entertaining. Does Kristy write this fiction for ya?
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  133. People like to believe “the truth is in the middle”. But as this case shows, the truth was with the child, the actual child, all along.
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  134. Gabriel Mohan They adopted her in May 2010 when she was 6. Her birthdate is Sept 4,2003. They ditched her completely in July 2013, when she was 9. She was 16 when Phil filmed Oct 2019
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  135. @Jb Sugarsnap-Pea Her records from Harvard affiliated Boston Children’s Hospital 2008 show the doctor had to use a translator to speak with Natalia. The Barnetts know she is from Ukraine. They don’t really doubt that. They said that to try and bolster their nonsense defense and to smear their victim. That sure makes them look guilty! Natalia was adopted in Ukraine by the 1st family. She became a US citizen automatically. She didn’t need the Barnetts for citizenship. If she was really an adult and unhappy at Barnett’s she would have left. Why would she “had to” act like a little kid? That makes no sense what you’re saying. You are correct that some “bone tests” are not accurate for establishing someone’s age. Like bone density tests. But Natalia had more specific testing where they look at the growth plates. All the medical & dental records the prosecution has amassed show she was genuinely a child. The Barnetts were simply lying when they claimed otherwise. Look at the pictures the DePauls shared. Typical 6 yr old with a front tooth missing. No dental abnormalities noted in her records. Just a normal picture of a 6 yr old who lost their first tooth. .
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  136.  @camiosis9024  Where’s the bone density test Kristy talked about? Didn’t see THAT in her court response. No sir, not a single test that said she was older. BTW Evictions are public records and there isn’t one from 1st apt. Michael said the lease was up. How inconvenient for Kristine’s story. Propositioning other patients at 7-8 years old? I’m glad they threw that in! That will show the appellate court judges exactly the kind of people Barnetts are and exactly the kind of hazards they exposed Natalia to. Keep it coming. CPS filed a case against Barnetts for Child Neglect after NUMEROUS reports. But Kristine thinks they believed Natalia was an adult? Wait, what?? 🤣
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  137.  James Omar  The most important thing about Shepherd Care (which just came out a week ago in Mike’s filing) is that Cam posted about them about a year ago, PROVING she is a confidant of Barnetts. Everyone Barnetts used sounds as creepy as they are. The attorney they used to change her Age? Had her agency shut down more recently. Both agencies. Michael’s attorney? Disciplined for Unethical behavior and lost his Law License for 6 months. The ONLY innocent one in all of this is Natalia
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  138. 12227UserName Why are you lying and saying the charges were dropped?? UR dreaming. They recently added 4 more felonies. These degenerates are facing 20 years. They deprived her of the surgeries they agreed to. She’s become more disabled and is in pain every day because of them. You think they had a good reputation? Ha. Nope. They even screwed their 2 youngest bio sons out of an education. Kristine wrote they graduated from her home school high school at 10 & 12. These kids don’t have a future either thanks to Mommie Dearest.
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  139. @JFresco The fake bitches are Kristine and Michael Barnett
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  140. @Holly Dunn The teeth mean exactly the same as a person without Diastrophic Dysplasia
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  141. ladev91 💯
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  142.  @damesaphira9790  You sound like the Elizabeth Holmes & Tania Head supporters, before they had to face the facts. I relied upon primary sources. And you?
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  143.  @mpaforoufakis  growth plates don’t lie. She had growth plates. Adults don’t. She was medically proven a child in 2012.
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  144. The Barnetts are going to have a hard time explaining away the results from 2 specialists at the respected Payton Manning Children’s Hospital https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  145. @James Omar “Crayola Confessions” Lol
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  146. So do I. The similarities are uncanny. They plagiarized this movie script
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  147. 7 years of “goodness” is not a act. She acts good because she is good. Barnetts are lying.
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  148.  @yesimagirl.9016  No, this is my real name. I think my comments cause some people cognitive dissonance. Because If I’m correct in my support of N, that means they’ve been bashing a teenager who has been terribly victimized already. That causes the haters to feel unsure & uncomfortable (ie cognitive dissonance). To resolve that, to assuage their uncertainty & guilty feelings, it’s easier to think that I must be her.
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  149.  @error4794  DNA proof published in Journal and Courier Aug 27 2020. And of course the Justice For Natalia Grace Blog
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  150. More fun to bash a girl who already suffered so much 🥲
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  151. Page 1 of Police Affidavit court document: Michael Barnett admitted that [they] were aware that doctors at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital determined Natalia was a minor child in 2012. Michael Barnett admitted he believed Natalia was a minor child in July 2013 when [they] left Natalia at an apartment in LaFayette.
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  152. Ice swallow Come Nice try. The DePauls said she was with them when she lost her first front top tooth and her second front top tooth. They supplied those pics and called Barnetts liars
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  153.  @integralogic  Aren’t people weird? I mean, to care about children being abused, to care about a stranger who was greatly harmed by her parents and the system, how bizarre is that?
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  154.  @mlyniecm  Oh stop. You did NOT look at her dental prints. Absurd
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  155. @Hunie Bone No the court did not rule 4 times that she was an adult. Further, the charges aren’t dismissed unless the appellate court affirms the dismissal. Regardless, no question she was a child
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  156.  @emmas1082  Just when I think you couldn’t possibly say anything more ridiculous than what you’ve already said, You outdo yourself. Thanks for the comedic relief
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  157. They might escape criminal liability, but they can’t escape reality. The birth mother they pretended didn’t exist has been found. She had all original documentation proving the Barnetts are liars
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  158.  @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley  Except she ACTUALLY was 6 when they got her in 2010. She only lived with them for 2 years. 2010-2012. If not 6, how old exactly do you think she was when they got her?
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  159. The movie is fictional, just like the Barnetts claims. Her birth mother was found. She wasn’t lying, the Barnetts are.
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  160. @Phil Brennan It’s not insider knowledge. It’s comparing what they said to the legal record. Like how they said they paid a Full Year of rent in advance, but there’s a court eviction case for lack of rent payments that was commenced after 9 months. Yes that proves they LIED. and that isn’t the only PROVEN lie.
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  161.  @LulaMae21  It absolutely IS the first time you’ve heard of a 6yr old being accused of being a secret 20yr old. It’s preposterous. That adults have passed for HS age is irrelevant. Strange that all your concerns about international adoption center around the parents. You may want to educate yourself about the adoptees’ perspective.
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  162. @AgathaPoirot Yes, there would be a way to verify those claims. What we, the public, can verify is a couple things: (1)The dr McLaren letter. He said she was with “at least 2” other families. He has some wiggle room by saying “at least”, but he’s getting his info from Barnetts so it defies reason that he under estimated by 28. (2) In the age motion document that Kristine leaked, it only says she was adopted by the original adopters (July 2008).No mention of any other families (3) In Mikes interviews he says the agency told them they had 24hrs to make a decision about whether they wanted her or not. And if they said no “she would go INTO foster care”. This alone tells us that she was not already in foster care (4) As late as Dec 2009 the DePauls were dealing directly with that first family, spending time on weekends getting to know Natalia. She definitely was Not in foster care as of Dec 2009 (5) If the “30 families” was talking about in Ukraine before she was first adopted, Kristine has no way of knowing that. Barnetts said they didn’t get any info except a US doctor visit and 2 photos. This all adds up to the “30 families” not being true.
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  163.  @camiosis9024  You sound really uneducated. Her mother is alive and was tested and IS her birth mother. Proven. Just like when a living father takes a paternity test.
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  164. Court also found probable cause to arrest them and charge them with 8 felonies. The dad confessed. Her birth mom was found. She was a child.
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  165. Yet her DNA verified birth mother is only 41. Hmmm. Does that not give you pause? Or do you prefer fantastical allegations from criminal defendants?
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  166.  @johndean5036  Only half were dropped due to Statute of Limitations. The court didn’t reassess her age. This judge cannot overturn prior decision. If she’s the scammer why wasn’t she charged?
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  167.  @rebeccarunyon5880  💙💕
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  168. The police investigated for 5 yrs, unraveling the Barnetts deception. This girl absolutely was the age her original birth certificate said, which is why THEY were charged, not her
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  169.  Duzzie Ashigana  They did find the birth mom and she was confirmed by DNA testing. Maybe Google next time
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  170.  @michellegulden1052  Her condition caused her to be shorter. It didn’t cause her face to look younger. It has nothing to do with hormones & didn’t prevent or alter normal aging.
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  171.  @JD-tm4ee  Self checkout at Walmart.
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  172.  @asbeltillorens2825  The accusation is just so ludicrous. I mean, if she was really an adult then them hiding knives from her is worthless. She’s just go to the store get another.
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  173. She actually was a child. Born 2003. It’s been confirmed & documents released
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  174. @Julie Tree Lover You know who else went across the world to adopt, then dumped the boy 3yrs later? Myka & James Stauffer. WTF is wrong with people treating adopted children like dogs that they can just “re-home” when it isn’t easy sailing? It’s reprehensible.
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  175. @Mood Swings I see a definite change in height, hands, facial features. Further, undeniable her teeth have changed! Baby teeth to permanent teeth. Look at the photos, not just videos
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  176.  @camiosis  No, no, no- All the staff/Drs said she never had one even though mom reported it.
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  177.  @soyicasweet99  TBH She’s not as articulate as my daughter was at age 16. She’s obviously intelligent but not unusually articulate
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  178.  @camiosis  No contact orders are public record and are searchable by name on the court. So cut the crap. There’s no record of Natalia getting a restraining order against Barnutts
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  179.  @theREALESTrealistUNPOPULAR  You think she’s the same age or older than Kim Kardashian? Lol
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  180.  @donnacsuti4980  Adults don’t grow, don’t get taller, adults hands/fingers don’t grow. Because adults don’t have growth plates. Even If you gave an adult growth hormones.
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  181.  @camiosis9024  No, your just repeating the Barnetts lies. Her medical records show she had a full skeletal survey in 2012 at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital & her age was estimated as 11.
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  182.  @camiosis9024  Apparently you haven’t read those decisions. If you had you’d realize 2 things- 1) The courts did NOT reassess the evidence that Natalia was a child. In fact, the decisions have ensured that that evidence will not be introduced at the Barnetts criminal trial. 2) Only 3 out of 8 felony counts for Neglect of a Dependent were dismissed.
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  183. @James Omar What kind of La La Land are these dolts living in? Where 30 inch tall, profoundly disabled girls are threats to full size, nay Plus Size, adults?
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  184.  @UlricGrim  So since the arrested parents claimed that (hair & periods) you’re just going to accept that as true?? Seriously? Is that all a child abuser has to do, tell a story??
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  185. Except the 30 families story wasn’t true. It’s ok. You can still bash her if you want. But base it on actual facts
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  186. First Last Yes you can, and they did, proving she was a child. Nicole DePaul has the same subtype of skeletal dysplasia as Natalia (Diastrophic Dysplasia). She says diff than you.
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  187.  @katiepetkewich  IO or Ready To Glare did a video & showed her medical record where the Harvard doctor wrote he used a translator to talk to her, proof she didn’t speak English at first. Barnetts are huge liars
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  188.  @chrisbauman2562  Alone, but they said they came over a few times a week and she had a home aid. She said they brought food. So why can’t she survive? She’s got food and a roof.
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  189.  @hannahreid4771  Sounds fair enough cause you’re thinking about all this rather than just accepting what they are saying like a lot of other people are. I feel really bad for this girl.
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  190.  @Pr0fessorScience  It was Michael Barnett’s primary care doctor who claimed the experts couldn’t help much with her age. But he was wrong. In fact, the endocrinologist assessed her age and said she was approximately 8yrs old in 2010. The orthopedist in 2012 evaluated her age with a skeletal survey and said she was about 11. Dentists also took x rays and offered their professional opinion as to her age. Between 8-9 in 2011; between 6-9 in 2012. Every professional analysis pegged her at her actual age per original birth certificate or within a range of 3 years. Considering the family practitioner couldn’t even get her subtype of dwarfism correct (He said SED, but prior genetic testing already conclusively showed she had Diastrophic Dysplasia) it would be unwise to rely upon his opinion as to the usefulness of x rays in determining her age.
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  191. Adults don’t have open growth plates and baby teeth like she did in 2010. You can’t fake x rays. Her x rays proved she was a child
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  192.  @nordiknight9042  Read the thread. You’ll know exactly why I said that. And if you actually think critically about it, you’ll agree
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  193. I don’t know if you saw the interview of the family before Barnetts who tried to adopt her. They spent weekends getting to know her. Would have adopted her but the original adoptive parents changed their minds and denied them. They had a daughter 2 yrs younger than Natalia. They said, and their daughter said, that Natalia was a sweet girl. The mom was giving her baths, too, and said she was NOT developed at all. This was a mere 4 months before Barnetts. There’s just no way Barnetts are telling the truth. This prior family would have noticed or thought she was older.
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  194.  @creativesparks2164  Absolutely. The saddest thing about all this is that a real person, a teenager, is being further harmed. As if she wasn’t hurt enough already. It’s disgraceful
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  195.  @jasminea7828  Don’t be delusional. There’s no way in hell an adult did a year of kindergarten, first grade & second grade with only the Barnetts figuring it out. They’re liars. This ain’t a mystery
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  196. @David Mora Here is a good overview of the case, but importantly it’s one of the few pieces that recounts the dental evidence (near the bottom of the article https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  197. @David Mora I’ll give you some links. Here’s the police affidavit that contains what Michael said (he admitted it) & the results of 2 medical drs who performed age assessments https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  198. I hope they look into Kristine Barnetts “charity”. My Jacobs Place took in almost $200,000 Dollars. Where’d it all go? #MyJacobsPlace #ShowMeTheMoney
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  199. @Camiosis Drinking early again, Pinocchi🤥 ? You don’t usually sound so unhinged until around midnight
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  200. @Many VicedGod If you’re concerned about money, you ought to look into Kristine’s past non profit. My Jacobs Place 501c3. Almost 200k in donations during its run. Where’d that $$ go?
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  201. Regardless, her birth mother was found and confirms her 2003 birth year was correct all along. It’s the Barnetts who are lying
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  202. Regardless of how old anyone thinks she looks, the fact is her birth mom has been found and she’s 41 so not old enough to have a 30+ yr old daughter. She has orig docs, Natalia’s born 2003
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  203. @`Alona Harris You sound awfully uninformed about this case. The Barnetts were never in jail. They posted bail on the day of their arrests back in Sept 2019. Now read the article I linked
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  204. @`Alona Harris The charges have not been dismissed yet because the implementation of the order has been delayed until the court of appeals rules on the issue https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/09/04/michael-and-kristine-barnett-still-face-neglect-charges-during-appeal/5715151002/
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  205.  @livingdeaddolllover2799  They might get away with it due to the Statute of Limitations but the crazy Barnutt supporters are pretending that they were acquitted after a trial. Trial is still coming
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  206.  @quickfixengineeringltd8035  The antipathy was one directional- Their antipathy for her. Probably when they figured out caring for a disabled child is very laborious. Now they’re lying to avoid looking like the bad people they are for leaving a child behind.
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  207. @Dingle Barry If they PREPAID a year of rent they why was Natalia sued for back rent after 9 months? It’s on the court website. That proved Barnetts lied about the rent. What else they lie about?
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  208.  @SARUJAN5  I think it can be hard to tell the age of a teenage girl by looks. Ready To Glare has an Exclusive video, w/photos when she was 6, missing front baby tooth & documents
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  209.  @camiosis  You are desperately trying to defend Kristine. Just because you bought in to all her pseudoscientific “spark” nonsense. Really sad for your son. You ought to be listening to REAL professionals, not the high school cheerleader daycare worker with Zero credentials and zero credibility. She’s had a negative impact on all 4 of her children. Her oldest is no where near where he should be thanks to Kristine pushing him along in a quest for fame and money. The younger 2 don’t even have REAL high school diplomas, let alone college degrees because she couldn’t be bothered after moving them all to Canada. Freaking sad. Getting away from those Barnetts was the best thing to happen to Natalia, all things considered. Now she has truly loving parents and one day she will have her authentic birth certificate restored. So pleased to know this is costing her every last Penny she fraudulently earned.
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  210. Hold up, you’re against people believing something just because they hear it. But isn’t that exactly what YOU are doing? Tell me, why do you believe she had full grown hair? Did you see it?
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  211. The Barnetts never proved she was not a child. Their motion to change her age was fraudulent. There was never an evidentiary hearing, no evidence was taken, Barnetts didn’t even have a court hearing. They filed their motion and without a single witness testifying, 11 days later the judge signed their petition.
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  212.  @camiosis9024  Nope. The 2012 full skeletal survey estimated her age as 11. Barnetts do not deny this. Nor do they point to ANY other evaluation. Why are you lying to bolster their defense?
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  213. So anonymous voices that you don’t know who they are were more persuasive than the pediatric orthopedic surgeon Dr Bellflower?
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  214.  @s.o.o4800  You don’t know what you’re talking about. ALL the bone tests/x rays, ALL, said she was a young child. Full skeletal survey Payton Manning CH 2012- Said she was approximately 11yrs old
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  215. Bio mom confirmed by DNA. BioM is only 40yrs old. Phil nailed it when he said No Way Is Natalia 30.
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  216.  @tinahochstetler2189  I definitely can picture a Netflix documentary in the future. It’s such an outrageous story. Who knew adoptive parents could change a child’s age by a stunning 14 years? Without so much as a hearing?? It’s beyond a mistake. There ought to be federal charges attached to this.
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  217. Taniel Moonsamy You either need your eyes examined or your head examined for believing some nonsense ripped-from-a-movie-script alibi
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  218. Jesus-is-mine Their making up the stories so they don’t look like the scumbag child abusers that they are. Abuse then accuse. The degenerates play book. And why in the world would the sight of hair scare you?? That sounds ridiculous. Girls get their cycles as young as 9 normally, and there can also be something wrong causing premature puberty. So, scared is an unusual reaction. Maybe concerned, so you make a dr appt. No big deal. It sure as heck doesn’t mean “OMG Secret Adult”
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  219. Lol. Yup. Now these parents want people to believe something similar happened in real life. Too lazy to make up their own story, gotta borrow from Hollyweird.
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  220. The age change judge got bamboozled. Her birth mother was found and confirmed by DNA. She’s wasn’t lying, she’s the age she said she was
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  221. @The Joker Remember, this is about how she survived, no one is saying she thrived. She “cooked” with a microwave. She didn’t go to school until she was moved from Westfield to LaFayette. Went to school (LARA) about 2 mos.
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  222. @Hairizal Dahrin Thats what some people say about the NASA Moon Landing. You can be in the side of science & facts, or choose bias and falsehoods
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  223.  @jadyn4879  I’ve watched the reality show Little Women. They don’t look like children just because they have dwarfism. Natalia looked like a child because she was a child
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  224.  @sassylady2001  “Numerous courts” is inaccurate. If you actually analyze the parents claim you can figure out that they’re lying. Their story makes no sense & contradicts the physical evidence
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  225.  @Gotmunchez  The Barnetts made that up. The doctor in 2012 took ex rays, estimated her age as about 11, and told them. They 100% knew she was a child
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  226. Pitbull lover The DePauls, the family w/dwarfism, were friends on FaceB with Kristy. That nut job had the nerve to claim other families had been taken advantage of by Natalia AND TAGGED NICOLE DEPAUL. This whole time Kristy was telling DePauls that things were great w/Natalia and led them to believe that Natalia was with them in Canada. The Barnetts are unabashed abusers. Cold and calculating.
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  227. haze The original adopters went to Ukraine to adopt her and brought her back in 2008. This is proven. There are no “30 families”.
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  228.  @emmas1082  Incorrect that all the charges were dropped. They’re still facing trials on 4 felony counts later this year. So why are they charged and she isn’t?
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  229.  @camiosis9024  Yup they had the money but Kristine preferred fly all over with her son giving interviews and chasing fame. She had NO interest staying home taking care of Natalia after surgeries. Bad mother.
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  230.  @hakeemdavis287  Look in the Journal and Courier Aug 27, 2020. Her birth mom is DNA confirmed, isn’t old enough to have a 30yr old daughter, AND has the original birth records.
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  231. Generally we don’t lock up victims. The parents deserve prison
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  232.  @j.c7719  The other poster is completely mistaken. The endocrinologist Dr Riggs is the one who estimated her age as 8 in 2010. Further, Dr Riggs never wrote a report for the court in 2012, only Barnetts sketchy Dr McLaren did. This is why Barnetts never submitted her actual records to the age change judge. Her actual records proved she was a child.
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  233. They are truly good people who practice what they preach
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  234.  @camiosis  Nope. She remembers the ages that Kristine told her she was. She NEVER had a scan saying she was 14 or 18 or 22.
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  235.  @Haileys2023adventured  The only DNA tests were on her and her birth mother. The court did acquiesce to Barnett’s req to change birth year from 2003 to 1989. But her birth mother mom has the records which show the 2003 records/birthYr was correct all along.
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  236.  @Haileys2023adventured  Actually a court ordered DNA test. That it was a match was stated in court back on Aug 26 2020. But the court still says it’s past Statute of Limitations for child neglect, but 3 felony counts of disability neglect still going forward.
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  237. Buck When the criminal case is over, her original birthdate will get restored. They never should have let Barnetts change it in the first place. Total lack of due process for Natalia. Fraud and concealment
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  238. She IS innocent. Barnetts ARE bad people
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  239.  @lizzietaylorsversion5941  While Judge Zore certainly bears some responsibility for this travesty, ultimately the Barnetts are to blame. THEY filed the motion to change her age. THEY withheld crucial medical & dental records. THEY knew she was a young child. Michael Barnett confessed. He also said Kristine coached her to lie about her age. The fact she didn’t die from their treatment of her is why they are only facing neglect charges instead of homicide charges. She could have died. They did not care. She was disposable to them.
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  240. @CoyotE Ugly With a 40yr old Ukrainian bioMom? Not likely. And whatever happened to Barnetts acting like N wasn’t even from Ukraine? How many lies are these folks caught in??
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  241. @sketchypete Prosecution just confirmed the 40yr old Birth mother passed the DNA test. Has all the receipts. Proves N was born in 2003.
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  242. lalah ! Yes that’s Barnetts alibi and defense. Like every other accused abuser, they have some cockamamie story. But the court ain’t buying it because they’re charged with felonies
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  243. More actual facts linked below. So BarNuts say she’s not from Ukraine? Didn’t have an accent? Horsepucky. Doctors at Boston Children’s Hospital, the Number 1 children’s hospital in the USA, affiliated with Harvard Medical School, said they had to use a translator to communicate with her in 2008 !! (The year she was first adopted and brought here by the Ciccones) https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2019/12/12/michael-and-kristine-barnett-face-more-charges-abandoning-natalia/4413571002/
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  244. Actual facts in this verified probable cause statement. Notice how the barNuts and their Quack Dr lied about the findings of the endocrinologist & orthopedist from Peyton Manning Children’s Hospital which is discussed in this legal document https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  245. Dr Phil needs to pay for a lawyer so she can reverse the travesty of justice
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  246. It wasn’t for no reason, it was for selfish reasons. Adoptive mom didn’t want to spend the next 10 years, surgery after surgery, taking care of a child she didn’t love
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  247. No, her birth mother was found and she really was born 2003
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  248. @Simon Parsons You are so wrong. Every medical dr except the Barnett’s family doctor assessed her as a child. Even 2 dentists said between 6&9 in 2012. This is why they are charged with SIX felonies after a 5yr investigation.
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  249.  @camiosis9024  Didn’t Michael Barnett say they didn’t believe she was even from Ukraine? Lol. He went on and on talking about no accent, like it meant she wasn’t from there. But he did finally admit in Sept 2019 that she was a child, they knew she was a child and that his ex wife had coached her to lie about her age. It’s clear from the photos that began when she was 3 or 4 yrs old in the orphanage until age 16 on Dr Phil that she was authentically a child. Barnetts deserve jail time.
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  250.  @camiosis9024  MICHAEL ADMITTED THAT KRISTINE COACHED HER TO LIE ABOUT HER AGE. HE ADMITTED SHE WAS A CHILD.
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  251. So go get some
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  252. Natalia did not deserve what they did to her. She should have started 4th grade, instead she was victimized & turned into an adult so that she could be “legally” abandoned
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  253. Funny thing, they claim she was an adult but their accusations sound like she’s a child (drawings, thumbtacks) They hid the knives? Wait, that only works on children, you can’t hide knives from adults. These people are nuts.
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  254. The Barnetts were the perpetrators. If anything, this should make people want to adopt even more to ensure no other child is ever placed with such evil people ever again.
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  255. Your theory doesn’t fit with the medical and dental evidence. You know, the objective scientific evidence.
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  256. Natalia was not Ever in “the system”. She was adopted in Ukraine by the Ciccones who traveled there. Then almost 2 yrs later Barnetts adopted her from Ciccones.
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  257.  @johndean5036  You must not understand the medical & dental evidence. On top of that even her birth mother was found & DNA confirmed, has the receipts. BM is 42 now
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  258. So does every girl long before adulthood. Where’s proof of adulthood?
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  259.  @dcrasta  Fortunately Natalia was rescued in 2013 by the Mans. She seems to be greatly healed by their unconditional love. But the damage to her physically & educationally can only be mitigated
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  260. @Camiosis As L.L. Cool J says, “You lie about the lies that you lied about”.
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  261. They were told her real age. They were provided her birth certificate, medical records and the first parents (Gary and Dyan Ciccone) adoption decree from Ukraine. Ciccones had went to Ukraine to adopt her
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  262. @camiosis Whatever Pinocchi🤥
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  263. There wasn’t adoption fraud. That’s why the parents don’t mention the name of the agency, cause they’ll be sued for defamation
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  264.  @jacquelynslaughter6562  That is absolutely incorrect. The court NEVER had any independent examination. The first case, where her age was changed in 2012, there wasn’t even a hearing. Judge never met her or her parents. He simply signed their motion. Then, in 2017, when the Mans tried to get legal guardianship of her and get her true age restored, they did hold a hearing. There was NO new testing ordered, though. The guardianship petition & age reversal was denied.
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  265. This story just shows how manipulative Barnetts are. Natalia never spoke Ukrainian. Her medical records indicated she spoke only Russian at first.
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  266. @Valerie DeHaan sure thing. Much more believable that an adult scammed her way into an orphanage just knowing she’d be adopted by Americans. Then scammed by US immigration. Lol
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  267. Wait a minute. You said forensics don’t lie but you’re also saying she’s old. You must not be aware that every single scientific test said that she was a child. Medical x rays, dental x rays, ALL SAID CHILD
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  268. Are you Slow or something? They released the birth & orphanage records. Her birthdate was correct, born 2003
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  269.  @heliabaharloo5053  X rays don’t lie. Her age was confirmed thru growth plate analysis years ago. Adults don’t have growth plates. Conf w dental x rays too
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  270. She wasn’t having cycles. They made that up.
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  271.  @MoeinthePhilippines  They’re definitely lying. Mike Barnett’s new wife (no. 2) didn’t want any part in his fabrications. She left him and they just divorced.
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  272.  James Omar  😂🤣😂
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  273.  @undia_7218  You certainly can have hair at 7 since girls can start periods as young as 8 without there being a problem like precocious puberty. Look it up, you’ll see
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  274.  @Evelyn_Noname  BirthMom was born 1980. Try again
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  275. Michael Barnett forgot to add that his sons don’t even talk to him anymore. Not since he left them in Canada. Estranged for YEARS, but still trying to use his son. Father of the year right here. A liar
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  276. Oh, but you think the ones actually accused of and charged with crimes are telling the truth?? Lol
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  277.  @bearandrabbit6826  Oh noes, the pUNcTuATioN pOLiCe are here, I’m scurred
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  278. The truth is available to anyone with eyes and an IQ above room temperature. I definitely recommend reading the court documents.
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  279.  @johnc1280  She is now. She turned 18 last September.
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  280.  @johnc1280  I decided MJ was guilty after Chandler. I didn’t watch the recent doc. Whether he hurt those 2 is irrelevant to whether he hurt Chandler. He’s a predator.
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  281.  @johnc1280  She is the only adopted child. It is also not unusual at all for only 1 child to be targeted. All 3 sons are now 18+, 2 were 18+ at the time of their arrests. I find it unusual that none of the sons have spoken out in defense of their parents. Especially the oldest, who is 23 and still residing in Canada. Child protection investigations are confidential, so there could be past allegations concerning the other children that we wouldn’t be aware of. We know about the investigations concerning possible abuse/neglect of Natalia because they are referenced in the documents on the court website. Also, the middle & youngest son were declared graduated from homeschool high school by Kristine, as she wrote in her book, at ages 10 & 12, so they did not attend k-12 anymore after moving to Canada in 2013. In other words, the sons opportunities to complain of mistreatment would be sorely limited without attending school. We do know from Michael’s past posts on FaceB that he is estranged from the sons, which is rather curious. He also posted about getting 4 years of therapy because of Kristine who he called “evil” and claimed “abused” and “controlled” him in 2016. So there is certainly evidence pointing to extreme family dysfunction. // The Barnetts procured a legal age change for Natalia in 2012, changing her birth year from 2003 to 1989. This was accomplished Ex Parte without a hearing and without legal notice to anyone. They withheld the results of prior medical/dental age assessments from the court. This is undisputed by the Barnetts.
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  282. I can think of a lot of potential motives. Get out of all the responsibilities and obligations of parenting a child that needs 1-2 surgeries a year for many years. Get out in a way that you don’t look bad (like the Stauffers) so it doesn’t muck up the book deal. Kristine was less than a year away from her book of parenting advice being released and no one would likely purchase advice from parents who changed their mind on a disabled child after adopting them. OR maybe the plan for moving to Canada (so their son could go to a prestigious school) was starting and they found out they couldn’t take Natalia. Back then Canadian policy was to deny immigration to people likely to heavily use their free health care. Making her “an adult” solved that problem. OR maybe it’s something far more sinister. Maybe someone in their family was doing something to her. Maybe making HER the adult was to make HER the older predator rather than the child victim she really was. Believe me, there is NO shortage of motives for Barnetts to be lying.
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  283. The parents DID make up lies. It’s so obvious. Thankfully some actually good people took her in before tragedy struck
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  284. Absolutely. Abuse then accuse. The predator’s playbook.
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  285. People usually get restraining orders against would-be murderers. They expect us to believe she was dangerous while they willingly visited? Makes no sense, because lies don’t add up
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  286. 💜💙Justice For Natalia Grace💙💜
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  287. @James Omar That, my friend, in the words of Shakespeare, is an outcome “devoutly to be wished”. Let them sleep on the floor, with all the other vermin
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  288. How could she stand over anyone in bed? Did they sleep on an air mattress on the floor?
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  289.  @camiosis9024  The only ones arrested are Barnetts, who are still facing 5 felony counts of Neglect of a Dependent. When Kristine had Natalia call the police, she was detained NOT arrested. Obviously a 16 yr old is not going to know the difference between “arrest” and “detainment”. Keep spinning
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  290. Love andGrowth No, that’s not correct. The Ciccones went to Ukraine, adopted her, brought her to US. After almost 2 yrs, Ciccones then utilized adoption agency to find her a new family. Barnetts had a Haiti adoption fall through, so then they adopted Natalia instead.
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  291. There weren’t 30 families. That was just Kristine Barnett trying to gaslight this kid. A shame Dr Phil ran with that as if it was true
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  292. She never had a period or tried to hurt them. They made that up to cast their victim in a bad light. They are bad people
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  293. Michael Barnett is back on the market now that his 2nd marriage has crumbled. Hit him up. You’d be perfect for him, since you believe his nonsense
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  294.  @D2014-u5i  Except she wasn’t thriving. People were calling CPS left and right. It’s in the court documents on the court website. She wandered around looking disheveled, knocked on random doors, etc. CPS tried to get custody but we stymied by the “legal” age change. And this was during the period she had assistance, with Barnetts bring microwaveable food and a home care aid assisting with ADL’s. Once they moved her to LaFayette, though, it was a different story. Zero assistance. Upper flat. Thankfully the Mans took her in shortly after.
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  295.  @D2014-u5i  There are children younger than she was living on the streets all over the world. Surely you’ve seen reporting on this in the past, or do you also deny those unfortunate children exist?
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  296. They’re making it up so they don’t look like the bad people they are. Ditching a child. Her birth mom’s been found. She was a child.
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  297.  @nodiggity9472  Lucky for you gullibility isn’t terminal.
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  298.  @camiosis9024  Cut off contact? Then why are there so many text messages between Michael and The Mans during and well after this time frame? Those quotes, even if true, are irrelevant to her actual age, which is proven as currently 17. Her original birth certificate was correct and nothing she said, or didn’t say, can change that. Facts are facts.
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  299. BARNETT’S CHARADE EXPOSED by their own words! Or, more accurately, their Lack of Words. NOT 1 mention of ANY medical OR dental Test/Exam that said she was older!! NOT ONE!! #Busted
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  300.  @camiosis9024  You stop. Kristine can claim whatever she wants, but it doesn’t make it so. At the conclusion of a 5 yrs long investigation it was Kristine who was arrested and charged. I’ve read everything. They are guilty as charged and lucky she survived or they’d be charged with negligence causing death.
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  301.  James Omar  Oh look, Chubby Checker doin the twist. 🤥😂🤣
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  302.  @krustycrb7182  She’ll say anything to defend the Barnetts.
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  303. That’s what the criminal defendants “claim”. So what did they do after they discovered she was past puberty? Nit a darn thing, no peep to nobody, took her home & waited the 6mos then Finalized adoption
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  304. ROFL Did you read this baloney somewhere, or just make it up on your own? Just thought it’d be fun to add a few more lies on top of the steaming pile of dung already made up about this kid?
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  305.  @hannahreid4771  They abandoned her in 2012. She’s was rescued by the Mans in Aug 2013. She’s had real parental love and acceptance for 8+ years. That’s very healing
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  306.  @hannahreid4771  I think you should watch one of the videos of Mike and of Kristine leveling the accusations. Actually Kristine only implies her threatening them with a knife. She never actually comes out and says it explicitly. Which is a common thing with liars. A liar wants you to assume it but often can’t bring themselves to lie directly. Kristine’s interview can be watched on Daily Mail. Mike does say it directly on a few different interviews, but you really should see it for yourself. Then compare your take on all of them. Personally I think Barnetts are lying. You can see in various photos her hands have multiple defects and she doesn’t even hold a pencil regularly. Her joints do not bend like they should. I don’t think she’s physically capable of holding a knife to cut someone. Plus, no one was ever actually cut. Which is convenient for them to not have to prove it with medical records or anything.
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  307. Since they lied about her being a secret adult con artist they have no credibility. Why even entertain their allegations now? They have zero evidence, only their word which isn’t credible
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  308. If the statute of limitations protects the Barnetts from criminal prosecution, then that’s just how it is. BUT the facts are in—Natalia is proven to be the one telling the truth. Barnetts are liars
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  309.  @herr.l0v33rrr  I guess you’re unaware that the people Barnutts adopted her from, the Ciccones, actually traveled to Ukraine & plucked her out of the orphanage. At her first doctor visit at Boston Children’s Hospital, the doctor noted in her medical record that he had to call in a translator in order to communicate with her. Now even her Ukrainian birth mother has been located, in Ukraine, and unequivocally confirmed via Maternity DNA testing. The Bmom is only 40 and her original birth certificate and hospital/delivery/relinquishment documents all say the same birthdate as the documents provided to the Barnutts—Born 2003
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  310. @Camiosis “Prepared to call #BIRTHMOTHER “. Dang, Pinocchiosis, you lie like a rug 🤥https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  311.  @ns2110theonly  Natalia didn’t sign over her SSI to the Mans. That was just a lie Michael told. Maybe watch the series again but pay better attention
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  312. I thought the opposite. That if your alibi is the same as a Hollywood Movie, you’re probably lying
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  313. Yea it’s a creepy story, it’s the same as a Hollywood movie. But that’s all it is is a “story”. The truth is actually pretty sad because this kid was truly a 6 yr old when they adopted her back in ‘10
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  314. Her mother knows when she gave birth to her. The date was on her birth certificate, passport & adoption decree. A date that was legitimate. Barnetts shouldn’t have been able to change it
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  315. I’m more worried about public education. All these people incapable of critical thinking, swallowing the Barnetts narrative despite all the evidence to the contrary. Alarming.
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  316. Her “native” language is Russian, not Ukrainian. But they had a “friend” speak Ukrainian to her & act like that proved something. All it proved was they didn’t spend a second getting to know her
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  317. They lied about her age. You don’t think they’d lie about her behavior? They’re just trying to not look like the monsters they are
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  318. DanCin in the MoonLight Well he’s been at Perimeter how long now?? Doesn’t have his PhD yet. Hasn’t published in FIVE years. Only 2 publications. Not even well cited. You know why he’s at Perimeter and not, say, Princeton? Cause at Princeton he’d have to do more than just math/physics to graduate. Perimeter waved all those other normal requirements. Not looking like he will be going to Stockholm anytime soon.
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  319. No she’s not. The Barnetts are liars. Their defense is a movie script. A movie script. Lol
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  320.  @jaj4706  I agree no 6 yr old is that cunning. They made up the claims & appear to have borrowed scenarios from the movie. That’s why they have no objective evidence to prove it.
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  321.  @joseortega-us6rn  Thanks Jose. I’ve been offering factual information and encouraging folks to think critically about this for 2 years. Some people are so cruel to Natalia. I see your one of the good guys
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  322.  @ellieem4716  Think critically here. Do you have any idea the amount of education it takes to be an endocrinologist? This Doctor was the head of the department. He led the growth disorders department. And if the “hair” story is true, which I doubt, he would have been informed of that. Let’s say the hair story is true, even then this doctor is well versed in precocious puberty. This guy treated children day in and day out for decades. Treated children with dwarfism. But he cannot distinguish a child from an adult? Make that make sense
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  323. JFC google is your friend! Female menstruation starts btwn 9-15. And that is just the normal range. There can also be early puberty called precocious puberty.
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  324. She was first adopted from Ukraine by an East coast couple at age 4. It’s in her medical records that the dr had to use a Russian translator. So she spoke Russian, not Ukrainian. Barnetts adopted her from them, 2 yrs later when she was 6. We have no actual proof how she sounded then. Only their claims.
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  325. @EDEN MARIE JOHNSON Kristine’s book does a pretty good job of illustrating how she treated the sons. She homeschooled the youngest 2 and claimed they graduated high school at ages 10&12. So NO higher education for them. No high school experiences, sports, clubs, or proms. And as one might expect NO COLLEGE for them either. Really sad. Then their dad Michael abandoned them in Canada after only 5 months and came back to Indiana to file for divorce from Kristine who he claims abused and controlled him and is “evil” (HIS OWN WORDS posted publicly to Facebook). As you can imagine this didn’t endear him to the boys and from what he says on Facebook they are estranged. That family is a train wreck.
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  326. She is a teen, just turned 18 last month. It turned out she wasn’t orphaned, her birth mom placed her in care when she was born because she didn’t think she could handle her severe disabilities. There’s little govt assistance in Ukraine. Her birth mother has been located and confirmed by DNA. Natalia really was born 2003, not 1989.
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  327. But don’t you realize that actual medical doctors said she was a child? Drs Spencer, Eman, Harris, Millis, Riggs, Demetris, Thompson, and a couple more whose names escape me
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  328. Did they sleep on an air mattress? 😂A kid 2 ft tall who can barely hold a crayon ain’t standing over nobody with a knife. It’s absurd
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  329. Yes, let’s do the math. But with something you can actually see & confirm for yourself, rather than just go by what the arrested parents say. Like teeth. A former family, DePauls, have pics of her from Oct 2009. She’s missing her first baby tooth, her front tooth. What do teeth charts say? That tooth sheds ages 6-7. Her birth certificate said 6. Teeth say 6. Looks like she was 6. Dr Phil was Oct 2019= 16 yrs old.
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  330. Here’s a video showing pics of Natalia in the orphanage in 2007. Look at 3:10 3:31 4:07 and you will see she cannot be in her 30’s today https://youtu.be/3Z5Eu-fZdKw
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  331. Apparently not for the people who prefer conspiracies. The truth is right in front of them but they choose not to acknowledge it.
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  332. @camiosis Lol You’re too dim witted to even grasp that Kinnard very carefully avoided defaming Natalia. Lol. That’s why he didn’t repeat their defamatory statements. Because he’s smart enough to know that repeating defamation IS defamation. Cry me a River over the blog. I didn’t read anything defamatory on it. I never said you defamed her on the basis of believing Barnutts. Nope. Not what I said. But you did defame her by claiming she was diagnosed with ASPD. Multiple times. Multiple. Maybe Kinnard would agree to represent you if you get sued?
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  333. @camiosis You wrote on multiple occasions that she was Diagnosed with anti social personality disorder. That is untrue. That is considered Defamation per se. Best hope you don’t get sued
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  334. @Jay Sin Why are you claiming there were “court ordered” medical tests back when Barnetts went to court to change her age? Because that is demonstrably Not True. The actual motion that Barnetts filed to change her age lists ALL their “evidence” for claiming she was 22 and not 8 as her birth certificate said. Take a look at that document. There is NOT ONE single objective test listed in their evidence. Not One. No x-rays, no bone scans, no dental records. NOTHING objective. It’s all “she acted older”, “she had a period”, “she admitted it”, “Dr McLaren agrees she’s older”, “Social worker agrees she’s older”. But NO scientific evidence. The prosecution has actual scientific objective evidence. Teeth and bones. And a Confession from the dad.
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  335. @First Last I knew that. I remember you saying that before. It doesn’t change my opinion however.
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  336. @First Last It depends on the type/subtype of dwarfism. Natalia’s teeth are not different. 2 different dentists gave age estimates based upon her teeth. If her condition prevented them from estimating her age they would not have done so.
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  337. @Rohan Tandra If you want to see a narcissist in action, check out this video of Kristine. Go to the 13 min 24 sec mark https://youtu.be/9i2mlnLJx0c This is Kristine giving a talk at an Autism event. She tells a story that is OBVIOUSLY a lie and she’s telling this lie to an auditorium filled with people. It’s truly shocking. She claims to be in a hospital room with her who just gave birth prematurely. She says her nephew is under 4 lbs and is dying and is awaiting a life flight helicopter. She then claims the nurse left the room saying she (nurse) would be gone for a bit and “strange things happen when I leave the room”. Kristine says her nephew is in a coma (2 times) then switches to its her sister in the coma. She says he is purple and not breathing and dying, but there are “no tubes, no doctors”. Then she picks him up and magically he begins to “develop and TO BREATHE” and then doesn’t need the life flight helicopter!! So the not breathing baby is Not in an incubator?? Not on a ventilator?? Not getting Oxygen?? Left alone by medical staff?? Picked up by Auntie ?? Placed “skin to skin” so she’s allowed in there but not wearing a protective gown to protect this premature baby?? And Lo and Behold Kristine saves him!! How anyone can tell such a bald faced lie as a guest speaker! It reminds me of how Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos fraud lied and lied some more even when caught. You don’t need to be a medical professional to KNOW that a dying, purple, not breathing, premature newborn is NOT going to be laying in a bassinet awaiting a life flight with no medical interventions or medical personnel while an Aunt just picks him up and he’s inexplicably cured.
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  338. @Rohan Tandra The dad’s admission is detailed in the police sworn affidavit. Along with the results of 2 different Dr’s https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  339. @David Mora Various sources such as court records, reporting, police affidavit, the age change motion Kristine leaked, insider statements, published resources, etc.(sources police relied upon were her medical records)
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  340.  @camiosis9024  You mean like how Natalia’s true chronological age was irrelevant to whether the Statute of Limitations had expired & whether Collateral Estoppel applied?
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  341.  @andromedarora2639  They paid for the apartment with her money. Turning her 22 made her eligible for SSI and when they signed her up they got Michael appointed her Representative Payee. That meant her checks went to Michael and he controlled her money and was required by law to spend it on her. As for school, there were no cost involved. And it was a completely inappropriate education. In Indiana you can only attend public school up until age 22. So they actually deprived her of an education and in doing so have put her future in jeopardy. She should be entering college in the fall. But of course she cannot because they neglected her education. She does not have a high school diploma or a GED.
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  342.  @andromedarora2639  I think once the son started getting famous and interviews all around the world were rolling in that Natalia and her physical needs were too much for them. They were neglecting her surgeries and this led to child protective services crawling up their bum. They wanted out. Kristine had started writing her book, crafting the mythology of her son having severe autism until she (a super mom) ignored the experts and pulled him out of autism and now he’s a genius thanks to her. Had they relinquished her it would have become public and crashed the idea that she/they were such caring people to disabled children. It would have tanked the book deal and movie rights deal. Their scheme gave them an out and made it Natalia’s fault instead of theirs, thereby preserving their reputations as these amazing parents and freeing up their time to devote to their son.
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  343. Look at her appearance from years ago to now. She went from baby teeth to adult teeth, grew in height, clearly matured from child to adult
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  344. @mr Meerkat That wasn’t right what Phil did, but giving up your license isn’t giving up your education or degrees
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  345. Meaning 16 on Dr Phil, actually 6 when Barnetts adopted her
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  346. Actually it turned out she really was 16. Her birth mother was located and DNA tested for confirmation. All birth moms hospital birthing records & adoption consent confirm the 2003 birth year
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  347. Most of these outlets combined current photos with old photos and did not show them in chronological order. Worse, some would show a pic of her at age 15 while they were talking about when she was 8, giving a false impression. You can see all her photos in chronological order on the Justice For Natalia Grace blog.
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  348.  @camiosis9024  Ooh Pinocchiosis getting big mad. Relax. Go eat your Spam-n-eggs.
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  349. No charges are dismissed yet. The order was made then immediately STAYED. Nothing gets dismissed unless Court of Appeals affirms the order. Let the jury decide her age.
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  350.  @camiosis9024  The neglect charges were already filed back in Sept 2019. Only 3 counts were dismissed. The other 3 will go forward as soon as the appeal to Indiana Supreme Court is decided. There is no need to refile. Try again 👍
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  351. Her birth mom gave an interview. She was separated from the father, already had 1 child, was unequipted to care for a profoundly disabled child. She never took her home from the hospital after giving birth to her, Sept 2003. The Barnetts lied when they said she was an adult. Their lying now to defame their victim and deflect from their actions.
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  352. Exactly. The Barnetts and half the people on YouTube, Dumb and dumber.
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  353. She really was born when her original birth certificate said. First, the doctors & dentists analyzed x rays, putting her -2 to +3 from birthdate. Now her bio mom was located & her records match 2003 birth
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  354. That was such an obvious LIE krazy Kristy told about paying rent “a full year in advance” “just like she did for ALL her children”. 1st Proven she DIDN’T pay a full yr, but also the boys were ALL under 18 then so she didn’t pay rent for them either. Lol. And that’s what happens when you LIE. You trip yourself up. That woman is a nut case
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  355.  @derekholt715  Talking about parenting, You gotta wonder what kind of parenting Kristine received when her dad has an arrest for soliciting a prostitute and her mom was judicially banned for a while from any contact with a grandson (when Kristine’s sister was getting a divorce the judge ordered Kristine’s sister to not allow her son any contact with his grandmother [Kristines & her sister’s mother]. Usually grandparents GET visitation. Kristine’s mother must be a real train wreck). As for Michael, you gotta wonder what kind of dad ends up estranged from his son’s. Ever since he abandoned them in Canada only 5 months after ditching N and moving there. He came back to IN and divorced Kristine.
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  356.  @camiosis9024  Not directly. But the Maternity DNA test did prove Anna was her mother & Anna has the original documentation of her pregnancy, delivery & relinquishment PROVING N was born 2003
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  357.  @arttime_1587  Here’s the saddest part. In the police affidavit it says that her current Drs have been unable to get insurance approval for surgeries she needs because of the incongruity between her legal age and her clearly actual age. So the age change has led to her suffering debilitating daily pain. What they have done to her is truly almost incalculable.
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  358.  @jazelletenukirehara  She was 6 in 2010 when they adopted her. Not now. She was born 2003, confirmed by her birth mother.
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  359. Her birth mom is 41. Lol. It’s not possible for her to be as old as you think she “looks”
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  360.  @Faesharlyn  The arrested parents, Barnetts, are her 2nd adoptive parents. The 1st, Ciccones, adopted her in Ukraine & brought her here in July 2008 when she was 4. She did speak Russian then. It’s in her medical records from 2008, which the DePaul family shared. Barnetts adopted her end of April 2010. It’s normal & expected that she wouldn’t speak or understand Russian after almost 2 yrs in an English only family.
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  361. That actually was done Years ago by the Barnetts. The results were that she was a child between ages 6-9. The Barnetts knew all along that she was a child. They just didn’t care.
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  362. They knew she was a child. They just didn’t want her anymore. Now that they’re caught they’re blaming their victim. Typical abusers.
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  363.  @livingdeaddolllover2799  2 years ago the Barnett supporters were demanding Find Her Birth Family! But now that birth mom was found and confirmed her real age she’s suddenly unimportant
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  364. @James Omar The butt kissing is hilarious. One of the few things concerning this case that I laugh about.
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  365. @James Omar Bottom line is No stranger and no one normal would defend those degenerates and lie on their behalf.
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  366. @James Omar It’s clear who the sociopaths are and it’s not Natalia. There’s no way the Barnetts number 1 mouthpiece is just a random nut case. She’s a nut case alright, but not random
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  367. They were charged Because she was really actually a child. Even though they obtained an age change. They defrauded that court. They neglected their adopted child by abandoning her
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  368.  @akane8695  I think I probably am in all those threads 😂 Why do you think she “must have” done something wrong? Did the Hart children do something wrong? The Hart children were the 6 adopted kids whose moms intentionally drove off the cliff with them all in the vehicle, so even worse than abandonment.
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  369. No, you’ve been tricked by the Barnetts telling a story that mirrors a fictional Hollywood movie.
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  370. @Wiccan Witches Of The West The Barnutters constantly move the goalposts. Look at her bones—Oh? Well bones don’t count. Look at her teeth—Oh, well her teeth don’t count. Look at former families—Oh, DePauls don’t count. Find her bio mom—Oh, bio mom doesn’t count. Every time the evidence they clamor for turns out to prove she’s a child, they then try to discredit that the evidence matters.
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  371. She was a Ukrainian of Russian descent (she’s an American now). A dr once wrote in her medical chart “A delightful 5 yr old Russian American girl adopted from Ukraine
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  372.  @tinahochstetler2189  That’s exactly what I think, too!!!
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  373. Taniel Moonsamy Yes you and thousands of others. Just Like all the morons who believed the radio broadcast of War of the Worlds was real.
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  374. @Sudarat Milinda Their lips were moving
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  375. Kate No they’re lying.
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  376. @mr Meerkat If Barnetts genuinely believed she was an adult (1) They would have sued the agency and the 1st family Ciccones (2) would have filed to void the adoption. But They didn’t.
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  377. It’s the parents who are the lying weirdos. Had their adopted little girl re-aged by defrauding the court. Then used that order to “legally” abandon her. Even her birth mother was found. The gig is up
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  378.  @theescapist9450  You are absolutely correct. Birth mom was proven by DNA. Kristine groupie keeps trying to confuse people but truth is Maternity tests prove Mom like Paternity proves dad
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  379. At the time they wanted to move to Canada to advance their birth son but Canada didn’t allow medically needy to migrate. They wanted to leave her behind without getting in trouble or incurring the wrath of the public whom they were banking on buying their book. The book about what amazing parents they were to their special son
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  380. Wow are you gullible!! These two cretins get arrested, tell a story that sounds like a B movie horror flick, and you declare the victim guilty. Are we still in America?
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  381. See the blog, learn the truth. 💕Justice for Natalia Grace💕
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  382. There isn’t a shred of evidence she did any of those things the arrested parents claim. That’s why she’s not arrested, they are
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  383. She’s 16 (show was 4yrs ago, she’s 20 now). She dresses conservatively because her (new) dad is a Christian pastor
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  384. @James Omar Who’s been posting the court website for 2 years? Yea, yours truly, the one and only Dawn Smith. Real name, one account, unlike the Barnett supporters
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  385. @James Omar You are the voice of reason, as usual.
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  386. Let me tell you about that paperwork. It’s from an Orthopedic Surgeon. Highly respected. Dr Lisa Maskill. That dr isn’t the only one who determined from x-rays that she was a child. Barnetts are liars
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  387. @Hairizal Dahrin Look at those scandals. How was it proven? By the original birth certificates. JUST LIKE HERE. Natalia’s original birth certificate says she’s born in 2003. As for your NASA denial, well let’s just say it’s no surprise you’d believe it possible for a 19yr old to successfully infiltrate a Kindergarten, which is preposterous on its face even if you knew nothing of the skeletal ex rays which conclusively prove she was NOT an adult.
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  388. Of course they tried to get her deported. That’s why they changed her age to 22, rather than 21, 20, 19 or 18. Because 22 would mean she was 18 when the first family adopted her and could nullify her citizenship that she obtained through that first family. Further, isn’t turning your 8 yr old into a 22 yr old an indirect method for getting out of the adoption? It allowed them to kick her out of the home and abandon her. They never mentioned their daughter in interviews. Kristine didn’t include ANY mention of Natalia in her book The Spark. Sounds like they used the age change to pretend they never adopted the child. Of course they didn’t formally petition to nullify the adoption. That would have been Public. The Ciccones would have been notified and went to court to fight the Barnett’s false age allegations. That why they chose the sneaky easy method that didn’t even require a court hearing.
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  389. She’s telling the truth and the mounds of evidence proves it. Even her birth mother was found and she’s not old enough to have a 32yr old child. The Barnetts pulled a fast one. They are bad people
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  390.  @NachtSchreck13  Make up your mind. First you’re telling me to shut up, then you’re asking me questions. Why do you want to hate on this girl so badly? Cause she’s foreign born? Disabled? What?
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  391.  @julezdavidman6995  I don’t know why people repeat the unsupported Barnett accusations like they’re true. Literally try to tell you something is in the records when it’s not. Bizarre
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  392. Aleksandar Samardzic Here it is. Go to 13:24. I don’t know how old you are or if you have kids. But I think anyone would know that a dying, not breathing, maybe comatose, under 4 pound premature baby, awaiting a life flight, would never be left alone by a nurse nor not have a ventilator Or oxygen and not be in an incubator and would allow the aunt to just pick up the baby. And Kristine saves his life with her love. I am not exaggerating. Watch it. She is a guest speaker at an Autism event because she’s parlayed her son’s genius into a career for herself. https://youtu.be/9i2mlnLJx0c
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  393.  @ej3796  People lie. Like the Barnetts when they claimed that little girl had a period.
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  394. Because she WAS 6. She’s 16 there on Dr Phil. They had adopted her in 2010.
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  395. My neighbors adopted a little girl they said was from China. But when she started talking, she spoke ENGLISH. /s
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  396. The movie ORPHAN is so far fetched that the main role was played by a TWELVE YR OLD. Lol. They couldn’t even find a 33 yr old actress to play the part convincingly. 🤣
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  397.  @JEUndisputed  If she was an adult she would not have been losing baby teeth up until a few years ago and her height and facial structure wouldn’t have changed so dramatically from 10 yrs ago
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  398.  @camiosis9024  Oh, You stay woke? I suggest you lay off the adderall honey and get some sleep, cause you’re sleep deprived and it’s clearly effecting your neurological functioning. Unless you’re just naturally stupid. Judge Meyer stayed his order honey, and their ain’t a dam thing you can do about that. Nothing is dismissed unless the Court of Appeals says so. And even if it does it will have Zero effect on the civil lawsuit I see coming. Barnetts are toast. Everything they did to that poor little girl is coming out. Her age will be restored and the statute of limitations will not have passed for the wrongs committed against her. Kids have a few years after turning 18 to file suit. So tell your girl she best be saving up, keep those attorneys on retainer, cause she’s gonna need ‘em. PS Go to the Indiana court website and you’ll see ALL THE CHARGES are still pending!! Lol. Case 79D02-1912-F3-000041 Kristine Barnett at mycase.in.gov
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  399. @Hunie Bone Her Ukrainian records said she was born in 2003, not 1989. Heck, her dna confirmed birthMom is only 40, I doubt she gave birth at age 10 to her second child (N has an older sister). Plus has her hospital records. As for the 2012 age change judge, he didn’t even hold an evidentiary hearing on the matter, ANY hearing on the matter. That’s some baloney right there. Changing a kids age without even meeting her? Or the Barnetts? Laughable, if it didn’t have such a devastating effect on N.
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  400. Wally Payton You’re the moron who believes a ripped from a movie script defense.
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  401. Reality: Barnetts are lying child abusers
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  402. Alicia H You’re onto something with Canada, but not for the reason you suggest. The fact is that Canada used to discriminate and not allow disabled to immigrate cause they might use too much healthcare. See this link https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/after-40-years-federal-government-ending-barriers-to-disabled-immigrants-1.3887123
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  403. Oh, you think SHE caused the Barnetts to divorce? Nope. Wrong. Cause Mike Barnetts posted 5 years ago on Facebook shedding light on his perspective. He called Kristine EVIL. Said she controlled and abused him and he needed 4 yrs of therapy because of Kristine, Not Natalia. He’s also estranged from his sons for years. They don’t speak to him. Does this sound like a good dad? Or mom? Hardly. And you’re calling their victim a Btch?? That is SO wrong. That girl has suffered enough. PS Dentist in 2011 estimated her age as 8 to 9; dentist 2012 est only 6 to 9. Is that proof enough for ya?
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  404. The parents were lying. Come on, who is gonna call their husband into the bathroom to stare at her naked privates the very 1st night? You know that makes no sense. Then 6mos later they finalized the adoption in their home state. Their story stinks like 💩
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  405.  @Freemonstasgaming  There wasn’t 30 families. That was a lie from adoptive mom. Bottom line—Only 1 family ever talked bad about her, the arrested ones
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  406.  @blessed7fold  Considering that she is not the one on trial here, why do the accusations from the criminal defendants need to be entertained at all? Determining her age does not require opinions from past families. Only her doctors, dentists, birth mother, adoption/immigration documents matter.
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  407. What is wrong with people who think the scurrilous accusations the criminal defendants make against their victim ought to be weighed & considered? Putting the victim on trial? Victim blaming at it’s finest
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  408. @camiosis It’s as good as over. The appellate court will overturn the ruling which dismissed the age related charges because there is solid undeniable unequivocal proof of her actual true age. All this time you’ve been caping for Barnetts, saying evil sht about Natalia, literally making up things and flat out lying to benefit the Barnetts. And here we are—She was 6 when those monsters adopted her. You oughtta be ashamed of yourself.
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  409. @T. Lee But he didn’t graduate until he was 17, and it was NOT a physics degree. It was a BIS degree, Bachelor’s in Independent Studies from University of Waterloo (Ontario CA)
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  410. Compare what Barnetts said in interviews vs what they said to the court. Huge difference. They put her in an apt Aug 2012. Moved to Canada July 2013. The folks on stage took her in in Aug ‘13
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  411.  @joseortega-us6rn  Crazee lady won’t admit he did it but got away with it because of the statute of limitations. Dude confessed even.
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  412.  @thetraveler1182  You’re not very bright. A jury said the cops didn’t use excessive force on Rodney King, either.
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  413.  @camiosis  I bet you haven’t been this excited since OJ was acquitted
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  414.  @Mar.....O  You tagged me. I don’t understand why you’re surprised I responded.
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  415.  @bearandrabbit6826  Wrongo, buddio. Half were dismissed due to Statute of Limitations. Trials are coming on other 4 Felonies. And you’re related to Barnetts how?
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  416.  @emmas1082  The case is the State of Indiana v Barnetts. Ergo Natalia hasn’t lost anything. Trials on 4 felony counts of Neglect coming in Sept & Oct
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  417. Dr Phil was wrong when he said 30 families. If you watched the show what actually happened was that Natalia said that Kristine told her she’d been with 30 families. We now know from the actual court documents that she was never in foster care, she was only adopted one time prior and that 30 families isn’t true at all.
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  418.  @annabenezue5624  I don’t believe she did. The DePaul mom was giving her baths only 4 months before the Barnetts. DePaul says ZERO signs of puberty. I believe Mrs DePaul. Barnett’s are lying
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  419.  @umama5531  She was relinquished at birth due to her dwarfism.
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  420.  @Cinnamontoastcrunch1029  TY. It’s shocking the degree to which people are willing to twist themselves in order to maintain the fantastical belief in the Barnetts story.
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  421.  @camiosis9024  😅🤣😂
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  422.  @camiosis9024  Natalia was born Sept 2003. Proven by her DNA confirmed birth mother. The State of Indiana is pursuing Felony charges against the Barnetts for their neglect of her.
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  423.  @camiosis9024  Dismissed NOT acquitted. Lol. But still on the hook for 3 felony counts of neglect of a dependent. Love that for them.
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  424.  @camiosis9024  You are delusional. Writing lie after lie after lie. But x rays don’t lie. The skeletal AND dental x rays proved she was a child. DNA don’t lie either. And the DNA test proved Anna Gava is her birth mom. Anna was born in 1980. Clearly the 1989 birthdate Barnetts gave Natalia is fake. Keep trying. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe you will get lucky.
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  425. @Jimmy De'Souza You’ve been duped. The prosecution has medical evidence from before and during the time Barnetts had her. It’s all been reported on with Hospital names and age estimates. All say child. Most recently dental records were obtained. Dentists the Barnetts took her to. In 2011 said 8-9yrs old. In 2012 said 6-9yrs old. The Barnetts didn’t even spend their own money on apartment or home care aid. Michael was the rep payee of Natalia’s SSI. They spent Natalia’s SSI money on Natalia as required by law. As for the Mans, they took her in in 2013. What “fame” was there in 2013? 2014? 2015? 2016? 2017? 2018? What you say is wrong and makes no sense.
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  426. Strangely, people haven’t changed much since the Salem Witchcraft Trials. Still prone to believing utter nonsense.
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  427. You’re a terrible person to say this about her. This innocent kid has suffered enough without bullies like you piling on. The Barnett’s claims are bull, stolen from a B-movie.
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  428.  @camiosis9024  Natalia was never in foster care. The Barnetts said that they were saving her from getting put into foster care. You must not have watched all the Barnetts interviews.
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  429.  @camiosis  Nope, You’re mistaken. The ONLY bone scans while with Barnetts were in 2010 saying 8yrs old & 2012 saying 11 yrs old. There are NO OTHER scan reported by Barnetts in their filings. The Dentist x rays in 2011 said 8 to 9yrs; Dentist x rays in 2012 said 6 to 9yrs. You really need to read the actual documents and stop relying on the Barnetts interviews.
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  430.  @heeseun  Those 3 are without honor. Their goal is to defame Natalia and excuse the Barnetts abuse. Reminds me of the hens who formed groups to defame Sha’nann Watts & support her killer
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  431.  @Haileys2023adventured  You should go check out the blog called Justice For Natalia Grace. There’s way more evidence that Natalia was a 6yr old (now 18)
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  432.  @Haileys2023adventured  Well it’s been 8 years now. Can a crazed would be murderer (according to Barnetts) keep it in check that long? They lied about her age and left a child all alone where anything could have happened. Do they have any credibility for the other accusations?
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  433.  @Terri_Hugs  I understand Dr Phil said that. He was wrong. The court documents are posted on the court website. The Barnetts own filings. She was not with 30 families.
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  434.  @cathytemple4269  She wasn’t with 30 families. She was adopted in Ukraine by an East Coast fam and was in their custody until they let the barbaric Barnetts adopt her. The DePaul fam never had custody
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  435. Buck No she is not 30. She is 16 yrs old like her original birth certificate said.
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  436. They had 3 biological sons. Where are the other 2? According to Kristine’s book those 2 graduated her home schooling high school at ages 10 & 12. Ten and Twelve. Let that sink in. No regular high school for those 2 poor kids. Was she trying to make them out to be geniuses too? Ok, so where are they now? Did they ever get a college degree? It’s been 8 years. Surely 2 kids precocious enough to graduate HS at 10 & 12 went to college. But, alas, NO. They didn’t get a college degree. So out of 4 kids total, only 1 got a degree. 25% success rate. NOT IMPRESSIVE. They didn’t do right by their 2 sons either.
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  437.  @camiosis9024  They are [still] facing 5 counts of Neglect of a Dependent. And they certainly neglected her.
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  438.  @imagine.3076  College? Lol. No. This kid was 9 yrs old, no high diploma or GED. She certainly wasn’t in college. Plus, the rent they paid was paid with her SSI money. Not magnanimous at all
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  439. ‘Cept it wasn’t a lie. From her birth mom, birth records, orphanage records, adoption records, bones X-rays, dental X-rays, it’s proven she was born Sept 2003
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  440. Every time a scam occurs people act all high and mighty. Asking “Who would fall for that? Hee hee”. Well look no further than YouTube. Where even a ripped-from-a-movie-script defense is believed
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  441. @ALCHEMISTRESS13 It ain’t rocket science. Kristine said she paid FULL yr rent In Advance. Court record (mycase dot in dot gov) shows kid evicted after 9 mos & owe back rent=Proves she lied
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  442. You mean like skeletal ex rays looking for growth plates, which adults don’t have? Yea, that was done and proved she was a child. How about dental ex rays? Yup, had those as well, proved she was a child
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  443. Bethany Skipworth Dipshit did you google it? “Sociopathic personality disorder” is NOT A DIAGNOSIS. The closest diagnosis is “Anti-social personality disorder” but he didn’t say that, did he?? He used improper terminology and as a doctor ought to know better. But more importantly, SHE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED ANTI SOCIAL PERSONALITY EITHER. This quack listed a dx that didn’t exist and claimed she had a personality disorder when she didn’t. Do you know how I know? Because the court motion that BarNuts filed to change her age listed all their “evidence”. NO Personality disorder was listed. That document is available publicly. Obviously the pod cast morons don’t know diddly about investigative journalism/podcasting.
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  444. @Jessie Davis Dr Phil is easy. What about US immigration? She was 18 and passed for FOUR. And the 1st adopters, & the DePauls & 2 dentists & at least 6 medical doctors!! This is unbelievable. No , REALLY unbelievable, as in There’s NO WAY she was an adult
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  445. How can that be with a 40 yr old DNA confirmed birth mother?
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  446. 1989 is the false birth year they managed to get. 2003 is the genuine birth year. The Dr Phil episode is from Nov 2019 when she was 16
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  447. What happened was their kid got into a prestigious school and Canada wasn’t admitting disabled folks. So they changed her age to be able to leave her legally
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  448. How about Court TV? So the world can hear the actual evidence instead of the cockamamie story Barnetts have been peddling
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  449. Myka- Another loser who adopted for clout
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  450. They can and they did. All the tests showed she was a child. A grave injustice has occurred here. A little girl (now 17) has had her life nearly destroyed
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  451. They wanted to keep the ditching of her a secret from the public because Kristine had a book coming out all about their amazing parenting, even sold the movie rights around the time they did it
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  452.  @peacelove3817  It really breaks my heart too. I don’t understand all the people mindlessly accepting such fantastical allegations. I comment in her defense every chance I get.
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  453. She actually was the exact age she was said to be. Her birth mother in Ukraine was located, DNA tested and has the original hospital birth records and the docs she signed placing her in orphanage at birth
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  454.  @camiosis9024  😂🤣The Indiana Supreme Court declined to hear the Appeal. So the Supreme Court didn’t decide anything about the THREE felony counts that were dismissed. 5 Remain Active
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  455. @James Omar They practice Confession By Projection. They project what they are really doing. Their accusations are basically confessions
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  456.  @camiosis9024  Medical records from Boston Children’s Hospital indicated the Dr had to call in a Russian translator because Natalia didn’t speak English yet. Funny how Barnetts threw up a Red Herring of Natalia not understanding Ukrainian. Slick. I bet they didn’t think DePauls still had the records! Too bad how sad for the Barnetts. Your little lie about translator requirements is a sorry effort considering as the Ciccones adoption was finalized before they left Ukraine with 4 year old Natalia in July 2008.
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  457. @James Omar She lied like hell in that entire diatribe. It’s beyond pathetic. Ciccones did this, Vince DePaul said that, Mackenzie posted this, On and On and On with pure unadulterated bullsht. Considering her connection to Kristine through her little Spark group, I assume this is what Kristine is telling her inner circle and what they are telling their other “Spark families” in order to keep the gravy train rolling from desperate parents of autistic children. With all the notoriety of the arrests and charges of the Barnetts I’m sure business dried up considerably so they have a lot of time on their hand to concoct fictitious explanations. As far as Michael’s attorney’s attempt to explain away his confession, there aren’t any transcripts or recordings publicly available. The affidavits filed by the officer ARE available and on the court website (the original affidavit and the more extensive Amended affidavit).
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  458.  @LulaMae21  You might be interested in this video which shows photos of Natalia at the orphanage & a date of 2007. Definitely a very young child at 3:10 https://youtu.be/3Z5Eu-fZdKw
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  459.  @camiosis9024  🎶That baloney has a first name🎶
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  460.  @LulaMae21  If the child was in foster care, the off loading theory could apply. However, this was a private adoption. They weren’t going to lose a government contract if they failed to find a home for her. Further, if they were desperate to find her a home they’d have allowed the DePauls to adopt her. Under no theory does the idea of cold calling work. There were over 18 million people in the state of FL alone. But they happened upon a family in Indiana who just so happened were looking to adopt? It’s absurd. The Barnetts admitted to have been using a FL agency to adopt a girl from Haiti when the earthquake on Jan 2010 put the brakes on. Clearly this agency, or a sister agency of that agency, called them. The Barnetts are merely trying to lend credence to their absurd story.
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  461.  @LulaMae21  The story of cold calling ought to have registered as pure fiction to someone who knows about adoption, like you claim to. The agency didn’t have custody of her, so the “off-loading” theory doesn’t work
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  462.  @LulaMae21  Rehomed, But it doesn’t sound “shady”.
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  463.  @LulaMae21  They adopted her from the first parents, the ones who went to Ukraine & adopted her, utilizing a FL agency. They finalized the adoption 6mos later in an Indiana court.
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  464.  @LulaMae21  Violations? You mean like the “parents” refusing to cooperate with the post-adoption reports that are supposed to be submitted? Or that they’ve “rehomed” the child like Reuters investigation The Child Exchange exposed?
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  465.  @camiosis9024  Yea just one big misunderstanding lol
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  466.  @LulaMae21  The Russian Law that ceased adoptions by Americans is informally called the Dima Yakovlev Law. Named after an adopted Russian orphan who died horrifically after 3 months in US
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  467.  @LulaMae21  A “cold call”. LMAO. Have you ever heard of anything so absurd? So obviously false? Didn’t Russia temporarily cease allowing Americans to adopt because too many Russian Adoptees were being abused by these entitled “parents”? Didn’t one freak-show of a “mother” put the child on a plane back to Russia?
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  468.  @camiosis9024  It’s true that Michael confessed to the detective that she was a child and admitted Kristine coached her to lie about her age.
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  469. @Jk Perdue Actually I agree with you that he sucks. Because she was never in foster care. Never with 30 families. These are facts he clearly didn’t check. She is 16. Her bio moms now been verified by DNA. Legal hurdles still present and this is heading to appeal.
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  470. Not when you migrate at 4 yrs old. Barnetts had her Ukrainian birth certificate AND the first families adoption decree showing she was adopted from Ukraine. The first family brought her back with them FROM Ukraine
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  471. She was a child. That’s why they were arrested, not her
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  472. She isn’t the one charged with multiple felonies after a 5 YEAR investigation. Don’t be so gullible. The criminal defendants are lying
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  473. Sure, except she was actually a child
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  474.  @camiosis9024  You don’t introduce evidence before the trial. They haven’t had trial yet. What’s all this nonsense about the judge giving them time? Pure fiction from you
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  475. @Camiosis The judge didn’t consider the new DNA evidence. He said he couldn’t because of the sketchy age change. They might escape criminal liability but can’t change reality she’s born 2003
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  476. @camiosis Nothing sketchy about her birth certificate which is now PROVEN to be AUTHENTIC!! Further, there’s NO SUCH THING as a full body passport! That’s a really crazy lie of yours. Daily Mail showed a full length photo BUT it WASN’T on her passport, you loon. Lastly NO ONE knows what the orphanage gave or didn’t give the Ciccones BECAUSE they haven’t made a public statement. ROFL. But we do know they took her to Harvard affiliated Boston Children’s Hospital who did a comprehensive examination and provided all her diagnoses. The dr there recorded in her medical records that he had to call in an interpreter to converse with her. He described her as a DELIGHTFUL 5 yr old Russian American girl. You expect people to believe he failed to notice she was an adult?!? Lol. No Way Jose. Spare me your lies, Pinocchio 🤥
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  477. @camiosis LMAO that you are attempting to perpetuate the idea that DNA cannot determine Parentage!! 🤣😂🤣😆😂
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  478. @AgathaPoirot In the other video you commented about me saying I thought the dr McLaren letter was a HIPAA violation. You spoke of the dr having to warn if a threat was made. And yes the duty to warn is real. BUT he wrote that letter in Oct 2016. He hadn’t been her dr (he says this) since 2012. So any threat she could possibly have told him about had long since passed. Plus, the letter didn’t even warn of any threat.
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  479.  @JohnDoe-lx3dt  I can’t put any faith in the 2012 age change order, because it was issued with a hearing. A step below a trial in absentia. There wasn’t any “trial” at all
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  480. He got more right than that. But, yea, of course she’s thought a lot about what the Barnetts did to her. Child abuse causes lifelong scars.
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  481. Appearances can be deceiving. It’s how bad people get away with wrecking havoc. Look at their behavior. Adopted a child & instead of admitting they changed their minds they pull this crap
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  482.  @rgnldrse193  X rays don’t lie Reggie. Dental x rays prove she was a child. Skeletal x rays prove she was a child. Adults don’t have growth plates. The Barnetts don’t have 1 single x ray saying different.
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  483.  @rgnldrse193  Good grief, that video claims Natalia didn’t have a birth certificate. Why go further? Anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature knows that’s false. You cannot bring a foreign adopted child to the US without a birth certificate. Full stop. Easily fact checked. There is no legitimate controversy over her age, if there ever was one. The specialists said she was a child. The dentists said she was a child. Her birth certificate said she was a child. Her birth mother confirmed her birth certificate was legitimate. There’s photos of her at the orphanage, with the DePauls, with the Barnetts and with the Mans clearly showing a child aging from a 4 yr old to a 16 yr old (now 18 as of September 2021). You must really like to believe preposterous claims.
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  484.  @rgnldrse193  Not sure what you’re referring to about a Ukraine doctor, but regardless, there is no video of a Ukraine doctor speaking about Natalia. Nope. Didn’t happen. PS Natalia’s doctors at the world renowned Boston Children’s Hospital diagnosed her with Diastrophic Dysplasia in 2008. There is zero question about what type of dwarfism she has.
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  485.  @rgnldrse193  Here’s a video from the DePauls who tried to adopt her, spent time wit her, but were turned down. Here they are 10yrs later defending her cause she was a child https://youtu.be/D9dH4_JWeRc
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  486. The only adults were the psycho Barnetts. I feel sorry for their sons too
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  487. Wow. You really don’t know anything about this case, do you? It’s UNDISPUTED by the Barnetts that the people they adopted her from, Gary & Dyan Ciccone of New Hampshire, traveled to Ukraine and adopted her from the orphanage, then brought her back to the US in July 2008. UNDISPUTED. I’ll wait to see how your conspiracy theory changes...
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  488. My account is 11 years old and I’m using my real name. Your account is just over a year old and you’re not using your real name. Perhaps we should be asking who YOU really are
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  489. She was actually 6 when they adopted her in 2010. She’s 16 here on Dr Phil. They abandoned her back in 2012 when she was one month shy of 9yrs old
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  490. Well, she was a child
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  491. She has a father who loves her very much. Do you know she’s been part of their family for almost 8 years now?? There’s been no problems whatsoever. Doesn’t that tell you anything about who’s telling truth?
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  492. When a Bully gets called out, what do they do? Cry that they’re being bullied🤣 They want to bully and harass an innocent victim like Natalia with impunity. Barnett supporters are whiners & cowards
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  493. iLiekLemonade I hear ya. I feel terrible for her. Her entire childhood stolen because Kristine Barnett wanted to sell her fictional book about what an amazing mother she is. Passing herself off as some heroic mother who cured her son of autism (which in itself is a lie). It’s so disgusting. Then these hideously ignorant people basically helping abuse her some more. So glad she has a good family who loves her now.
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  494. It’s still ongoing. After 1.5yrs of pretrial motions, judge said his hands are tied and the state cannot charge for child neglect, only disability neglect. It doesn’t matter if the state can prove she was a child, it’s too late. But importantly he put his order on hold and the court of Appeals has agreed to assume jurisdiction and make a decision. If State wins they can argue to the jury she was a child and present the age evidence and jury will decide. If Barnetts win then they will only face the disability neglect felony charges.
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  495.  @blindi6326  It’s on the court website. See the amended probable cause affidavit in particular, under the dads appellate case, search by name: Michael P Barnett at mycase.in.gov
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  496. Never looked 6? You must not have seen the photos of her with her missing front teeth, looking like every other 5-7yr old
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  497.  @shara5985  Soup is a moron. That black man is not only a father to his own bio children, he stepped TF up to be a father to the girl whose pos white father abandoned her. He’s Father of the Year.
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  498.  @clairebeane3455  That’s what Barnetts claimed, but the pictures don’t back them up. You can see them all in order in the blog called Justice For Natalia Grace
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  499. Key word is “If”. We now know from all the published court filings that she actually wasn’t in all those different homes. Also that drs said she was a child, not an adult. True story is sad
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  500. Irrespective of the fraudulent birth certificate the Barnetts procured, in actual years on the planet Natalia was only 16 when Joe talked about her like that. A freaking kid. And he mindlessly denigrated her
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  501. She’s been with them going on 8 yrs now. There’s never been an issue with her in all those yrs. Clearly not the psycho Barnetts painted her as.
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  502.  @johndean5036  When did she have a choice? She was 6 yrs old. The only one without a choice. It’s a shame the orig adoptive parents (the C’s) were fooled by Barnetts
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  503.  @johndean5036  That would have been great because they’d have been immediately arrested and she would not have been harmed by the fraudulent age change
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  504. And they abandoned her in 2012 knowing full well she was a child.
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  505. krys stal Yes DNA testing was done. The results have not been publicly reported because of the gag order. But the prosecution had to have been very convinced just on documentation alone to go the extra step of testing. The Barnetts were arrested before she was known so it’s not like they needed her to prove the case. The Barnetts resisted testing by withholding authorization for Natalia so the judge ordered it without their consent.
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  506. The bio mom HAS spoken out. She confirmed that Natalia’s original birth certificate was genuine and she is now only age 16. The bio dad is deceased
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  507. @KJ L I think they got exactly what what they signed up for, a child. But it wasn’t smooth sailing and eventually her needs were in the way of their aspirations.
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  508. If the adoption was fraudulent, they would have filed a case against the agency. But they didn’t, did they? Until they were arrested, the agency would have had no idea what they did to Natalia
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  509. The truth is that doctors approximated her age as 8 in 2010 & as 11 in 2012 & as 14 in 2017. Dentists estimated her age as 8-9 in 2011 & 6-9 in 2012. She was def a child
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  510. Because she left Ukraine with American adoptive parents when she was 4
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  511.  @dcrasta  I think it’s safe to reject that claim (“cold called”) out of hand. Especially considering Mike Barnett said they had been matched to adopt a girl from Haiti that fell through in the months prior. Many agencies have multiple locations or sister agencies. I think it’s logical to conclude that’s how Shepherd Care came to call the Barnetts vs his story of the agency randomly learning about them from the internet.
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  512. Would it benefit the Barnetts to tell the story any other way? I notice they failed to mention that the adoption wasn’t finalized until 6 months later. Before that they weren’t her legal parents
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  513.  @camiosis9024  You can tell all the lies you want, Pinocchiosis. You keep forgetting that Kristine leaked the Actual Document of them telling the judge she was 22 & them asking the judge to change her birth certificate to say she was born in 1989. Barnetts did that. It’s a fact. The proof is available to anyone who wants to see it. All these lies you’re telling about the Ciccones—there is a reason Michael NEVER said ANY of the crap you’re spewing—he didn’t want to get sued by the Ciccones. No journalist has EVER published the fiction you’re peddling, either. Hang it up Pinocchiosis. Oh, and BTW there are no DNA tests on the market that can determine your chronological age. Those tests you’re looking at are for biological age. Not the same thing. And not even necessary since actual science, a MATERNITY DNA test proved Anna Gava, 40 yrs old, is Natalia’s birth mother.
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  514.  @camiosis9024  It’s easy to see how Kristine wore Michael down with her incessant gaslighting. This must be what he was talking about on facebook.
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  515.  @camiosis9024  Look, I know in your’s & Kristine’s world that reality is whatever you want it to be. But, Newsflash, the Real World doesn’t work that way. Lying doesn’t change reality, Pinocchio
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  516. @Camiosis You are so jealous of her, Pinocchiosis
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  517. @Tenzin Gobom How long U suppose that would take? Not even kill, just leave a mark,Actual evidence? Cause in 2 yrs they couldn’t produce so much as a paper cut from her, the “secret” adult
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  518. Warms my heart this Defense is costing BarNuts THOUSANDS. They don’t even have their non profit organization (My Jacobs Place) anymore, to raid for funding
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  519. Is that your medical opinion? That skeletal x rays are inconclusive on folks with dwarfism? That’s not what her doctors said. Doctors with expertise in growth disorders said she was a child
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  520. Yes, as a matter of fact Michael Barnett admitted to it. He admitted she was a child when then moved away and left her behind.
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  521. Natalia was an innocent 6 year old little girl when she was unfortunately adopted by the despicable Barnetts
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  522. She’s been here since 2008. Came over at age 4. You generally do not retain an accent at that age. This is evidence on her side because if she had been 18 like they claim, she’d still have an accent
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  523.  @michaelkaba7481  Awesome. Another question—were you just talking about phd doctors/psychologists or medical doctors as well?
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  524. @James Omar He never could explain his “money grab” comment. He got mad at me for asking. So he deleted that comment thread. What an intellectually dishonest coward.
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  525. You don’t even need to hear from Natalia. All you need is to read the police affidavit which recounts her medical & dental findings. X rays cannot be faked. She was a young child.
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  526. Because she came over at only 4 yrs old, in 2008, and was adopted into an English only family. International adoption literature is clear that a young child will rapidly lose their 1st language
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  527. “30 families” is a lie. I know Phil said it, but he got that part wrong. “30 families” is what Natalia said that Kristine told her. It wasn’t true.
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  528. She was never in the foster system. That fact is undisputed. The Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones, who are the parents that traveled to Ukraine & adopted her from the orphanage
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  529. @Hubert Finley I could ask you why you think she IS an adult. But you’d likely just repeat the Barnetts alibi or the nonsense other people made up as the story percolated, like a bad game of “telephone”. From Kristine’s very first Daily Mail video. I first thing I noticed was she contradicted herself. She said they paid her rent and she had social security for the rest of her needs. Then goes on to say that after they left her in LaFayette and moved they lost contact. The next contact was, Kristine said, she got a letter in the mail that Natalia had changed the beneficiary on her social security from Michael to someone else. WHOA! HOLD UP!! 2 min earlier Natalia had social security for her other needs NOW Kristine is admitting that the social security is coming to Michael !! Kristine called Michael the beneficiary but the more precise term is Representative Payee. When a SSI recipient cannot handle their own finances a person is chosen to do that for them. The money goes to the rep payee who spends the money on the SSI recipient. So, now we have 2 lies. Natalia didn’t have the social security funds in her hands AND the Barnetts are not spending their own money on Natalia, they are spending Natalia’s money on Natalia but trying to make it look like they are so benevolent. It’s all down hill for the Barnetts after that.
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  530. @Hubert Finley Poor Hubert, his IQ only has 2 digits.
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  531. There is no doubt in my mind that one will be forthcoming. I hope they expand it to include all the claims Kristine made in her book and look into the non-profit Kristine started that she closed before moving to Canada. Almost 200k in donations floated through that non-profit.
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  532.  @binge1804  Me too. I think someday Netflix will do a series on this and peoples minds will be blown at how something so egregious ever happened in the first place.
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  533.  @binge1804  It’s really not a question. But the Barnetts and their public relations firm have been rather effective at manipulating public opinion. Legally, it’s a cluster F. Because they did obtain a court approved age change for her back in 2012. Of course, that in itself is a joke because there literally wasn’t an evidentiary hearing and the judge never even met the girl. Wild. But now the child neglect charges are in danger of being dismissed because of legal technicalities. Time will tell. It’s all on hold while Court of Appeals decides IF the state can present all the evidence and try to prove she was a child.
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  534.  @binge1804  Actually her birth mother was revealed as confirmed by DNA. Her original hospital records show she gave birth to her Sept 2003, exactly as her unamended birthC said. She was 16
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  535.  @binge1804  If you believe a dentist can determine approx age, it might interest you to know that in 2011 Kristine took her to EZ Dental and asked the dr to evaluate her age and was told she was between 8&9. Then in 2012 dentist Dr Ronald Deckard estimated her age as btwn 6&9. This is in the amended probable cause affidavit that’s publicly available on the court website
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  536.  @michellegulden1052  That last comment makes no sense at all.
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  537.  @michellegulden1052  There’s no way you could prevent an intellectually normal “secret” adult who isn’t in a lockdown facility from getting a knife if she wanted one.
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  538. She was 9, not 6. Barnetts said they brought her food and supplied a home care aid. All she had to do is eat and shower. Things any 9yr can do, but no 9yr old should have to do. Jail those degenerates
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  539. Well her birth mom’s been located and she is exactly the age Barnetts were told and provided a birth certificate for. Her birth certificate was legit. Until Barnetts got it changed.
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  540.  James Omar  They think it’s a one way street. They get to bash on a freaking kid, try to cast doubt on her truthful recitation of the past, enable and embolden child abusers, then take umbrage at a little blow back from people who actually care about children getting abused and actually took the time to learn the facts in this case or actually thought about the implications of the Barnetts multiple public statements. Perpetrators, i understand. Perpetrator’s handmaidens, I don’t understand.
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  541. Wake up and smell the coffee. The only ones lying here are the criminal defendants- The Barnetts. Not Ukrainian? Tell that to her birth mother located in, you guessed it- Ukraine
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  542. This HAS been answered. The DePauls shared a medical record from 2008 and Natalia’s doctor noted that he had to use a translator to communicate with her. Like all very young international adoptees, she has lost that ability. In fact, the Barnetts own adoption attorney has an article up on her blog telling parents that young children typically lose their language by 2 months and can’t understand it by 6 months in their new families.
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  543. At 16 you pretty much are a grown woman, cause you’re generally not growing anymore. The Barnetts are hugely lying. They took her to docs & dentists & were told she was definitely a child.
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  544. Really sad that you’re defending the real monsters- The Barnetts. This girl was in 1st grade when they got her. You just said “you can tell” when someone’s an adult. Not 1 teacher/parent objected
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  545. Money? How? You know, they found her birth mom and her medical records, she wasn’t an adult
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  546.  @wolfy1  I should clarify, no one besides Barnetts has claimed she was violent towards them. On the other side, the Barnetts said SHE made disclosures of violence against her. They said the disclosures were too detailed and held this up as evidence she was older. Talk about rotten people. Their adopted daughter disclosed abuse and they did nothing to hold the alleged abuser accountable. They are sickos
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  547.  @wolfy1  No one else claimed violence, just the Barnetts. Yes she just turned 18 in real life, 32 on paper
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  548. I didn’t like how Dr Phil failed to mention all the CPS investigations of Barnetts and how the “age change” solved the problem of Child neglect/abuse
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  549. @camiosis Where’s the evidence for the claims you made concerning the 1st family the Ciccones? Why don’t you just admit you made that shz up?? Come on, man!
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  550. @camiosis You made radical claims about the 1st family Ciccones. Put up or shut up. Post the proof of THOSE claims. Still waiting #PINOCCHIO
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  551. @camiosis So post the article that says what you’re claiming about the 1st family!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You won’t, because you made all that up!!!! You are LYING
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  552. @midnight cupid Cami knows she’s wrong. She’s made up TONS of actual lies. She doesn’t care because her goal is to support Kristine & make other people doubt N.
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  553. @camiosis Bye Barnutter
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  554. @camiosis #ReadItAndWeep Biotch!! https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  555. @camiosis All 8 charges against Michael STILL ACTIVE. Judge has declined to rule after a hearing on his motion to dismiss. Will Mike take a plea and turn on Kristine? Will Kristine escape the age related charges and leave Mike holding the bag? One thing is certain, Natalia got away from both those losers
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  556. @camiosis Lol You still can’t read very well. Not my problem. The fact remains that there are 2 felony counts that Kristine still face. Pro tip- When a word ends in “s” that mean it’s plural. Lol. So when the article YOU LINKED says she still faces charges, that’s charges with an s, it means more than 1. JFC You need to go repeat 2nd grade.
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  557. @alwaysopen You’re a serpent
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  558. Only 2 “professionals” on BarNutts side—general practitioner Dr McLaren and licensed clinical Social worker Susan Whitten. Lol. Two!!! And only ONE of ‘em a doctor. lol. Impressive
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  559. @camiosis You just named the professionals on the prosecution witness list and are pretending these people are on BarNuts side. You are so transparent. Crazy Barnutter!!
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  560. @camiosis I find it BEYOND PECULIAR that you lie about the DNA testing then have the unmitigated gall to call your UNTRUE account “peculiar”.
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  561. @camiosis A full skeletal survey IS NOT A BONE DENSITY SCAN. lol. It’s an analysis of her growth plates. And in June 2012 the results were that she was about 11. Sorry you can’t understand that
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  562. @camiosis When you talk about “lying, deceitful, Conning, manipulation” and “sociopath”, you must be looking in a mirror. Sucks to be you.
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  563. @camiosis Palms are sweaty? Knees weak? Arms are heavy? Vomit on your sweater already? Lol.
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  564. @camiosis Throat feel tight? Breathing shallow? Heartbeat rapid? Legs restless? Trial date is approaching. Sucks to be them lol
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  565. @camiosis Tick tok. Tick tok. Ooh the stress must be unbearable. At this point, I bet even sleep proves unrestful. Sucks to be them. Lol
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  566. @amel moussaoui Police probable cause affidavit revealed she had a full skeletal survey saying she was approx 11yrs old, the same month Barnetts filed to make her 22, withholding that info
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  567. @camiosis 13K=Amount of refundable tax credit they got. 145K+= the amount of donations their charity My Jacobs Place took in just in 2010. Where’d all that money go?
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  568. Absurd.
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  569. Fake news. This girl was a genuine child & those scum adopters did exactly what they were accused of
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  570. I fail to see how a Fictional movie proves anything other than the Barnetts claims sound fictional
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  571. He said a lot if you watched the show when it aired.
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  572. That’s why the older pictures are so important. Cause it can be hard to guess the age of a teen. But most people can accurately determine if the pic of a 6 yr old is really 6yrs old. She was a child
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  573. That was a manufactured cliffhanger. She moved in with a friend & is not following Pentecostal religion rules (she got her ears pierced. Seriously). She wants freedom from parental control like every other 20yr old. They’ve patched things up
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  574.  @ayelow7716  Bone and dental x rays are reliable but not exact, within a range of +/- 3 yrs in children. So they had determined she was well below the adult age. The oldest growth plate estimate was 11 in 2012, youngest estimate from dental x ray was 6 in 2012.
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  575. They DID find out how old she is. That’s why the parents were arrested.
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  576. They definitely are lying
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  577. @frankenclouds !! The family who adopted her from Ukraine (Ciccones) were unprepared to deal with her significant medical/surgical needs that they were unaware of at the time of adoption. DePauls never had custody; they spent time with her in hopes of adopting her from Ciccones. But after 4 months of paying attorneys to facilitate and still no binding agreement, they pulled out. Barnetts? They had no interest in attending to her needs after their son was identified as “genius” and gained fame, which included jet setting all over for interviews and her disabilities put a wrench in that situation. I doubt they ever loved her at all. Natalia’s been with the Mans since shortly after Barnetts flew the coup to Canada and left her behind.
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  578. @Mood Swings She looks the same as in this Ready To Glare exclusive? Have you seen RTG’s video? Here’s the link https://youtu.be/vBSl9jS4oFI
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  579. @Mood Swings Do you have cataracts? Macular Degeneration? Vision uncorrectable to 20/20? You cannot possibly honestly say she looks the same as she did in the DePaul pics
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  580. @camiosis You sound like you’re bingeing earlier than ever. You don’t usually sound so unhinged until later in the day.
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  581. @camiosis You should write story books. You tell good stories.
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  582. No, she didn’t lie about her age. Cops even tracked down her 40yr old birth mom, who has all the receipts. This is a case of well to do losers who found a novel way to ditch a kid
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  583. @James Omar Right back at you!! I’m down near Cumberland Gap right now, hiking up a storm, and still going to counter the preposterous claims of the Barnetts & their mindless/amoral supporters
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  584. It’s over, even if Barnetts get away with it. On top of the medical & dental x Ray evidence, her birth mom’s documents match the 2003 date of birth
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  585. See the evidence and photos that the Barnetts don’t want you to https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  586. They really are.
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  587. Gullible is believing a story ripped from a fictional Hollywood movie. An adult who passed as a kindergartner? In what world is that even possible?
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  588. So it’s just a bridge too far to accept that she was an innocent victim of diabolical adopters, huh? Strange
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  589. He doesn’t love ANY of his kids. He abandoned his sons in Canada & moved back to Indiana only 5 months after they moved there. Terrible dad
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  590.  @camiosis  You write great fiction. Maybe you and Kristine can team up for a book. She’s an established story teller, don’t ya know?
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  591.  @camiosis  If you believe the Drs then you believe she was a little child when they adopted her, because that’s what all the Drs say
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  592.  @darkgirl222  She genuinely was 16 there. X rays don’t lie. Skeletal & dental x rays confirmed it. Even her birth mother was found & confirms it
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  593.  @Uprising771  No, she wasn’t in puberty yet. They lied about those things
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  594. Headlines are confusing. She was 6 when the Barnetts adopted her in 2010. She was born Sept 2003. She was 16 on the show with the Mans who took her in back in 2013. Barnetts changed her date of birth to 1989, which If True (it’s not) would mean she was 30 on the show. She is still with the Mans to this day.
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  595. Zach Brown It’s fascinating that you think that just because they have a son who is very smart that it means they are telling the truth. Maybe you can explain how that conclusion is logical.
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  596. @Zach Brown The Barnetts are out of jail on bond so their “kids” are not parentless. But considering 2 of 3 are 18+ and the 3rd is 16, at best 1 kid will be effected. Further none of the boys have spoken to the dad in years, so him going to jail will have Zero effect. Must be a great dad huh? That his own bio sons want nothing to do with him.
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  597. Yes, the Mans DO have other children. Two are younger than her. She is so obviously a sweet & gentle girl that she was even in the delivery room when her baby brother was born. They have been her unofficial parents for 8 yrs now. They are a happy family. Let’s contrast that with the Barnetts. Michael Barnett abandoned his wife and 3 sons in Canada only 5 months after moving there. He returned to Indiana and filed for divorce. In a Facebook post in 2016 he accused Kristine of abusing and controlling him! He said he had 4 years of therapy, therapy that began before they moved, in order to heal from this. He did not mention or blame Natalia. He also made known that he was estranged from his sons and feared there were filled with vitriol by Kristine. I don’t know if Michael’s claims about Kristine were true, but that is what he posted about publicly. What is clear, though, is that the Barnetts were a severely dysfunctional family. When Natalia was on Dr Phil she said Kristine told her she had been with some 30 families. We know this is false from the Barnetts own court filings. They adopted her from the Ciccones. She was not in foster care. They did not repeat the “30 families” claim in court. I think that shows that Kristine was on a campaign of denigration about Natalia long before they left her. It’s a shame Dr Phil did not verify this before adding to the misinformation by repeating the “30 families” falsehood.
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  598.  @camiosis9024  Kristy ought to change her group name from Learning The Spark, to Learning How To Spark It Up. Cause y’all gotta be on something🤣
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  599.  @camiosis9024  IN Supreme Court rendered an opinion WITHOUT even hearing the case? Lol You’re just making it up as you go along. 5 felony counts STILL stand.
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  600.  @devong7124  They spent 6 months with her in their home before finalizing the adoption. They picked her up beginning of May, finalized Nov 3, 2010. They didn’t get scared of her. They were scared they were going to get in trouble because CPS was investigating them for abuse/neglect. That sure would have tanked their book deal. Changing her age prevented CPS from filing a petition against them. They are the lying scammers. She could have died because of them.
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  601.  @devong7124  It’s definitely a crazy case. I expect the entire story will be told once the criminal case against Barnetts concludes. Likely in a civil case against the Barnetts & others
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  602.  @devong7124  The parents did nothing wrong? The fraudulently changed her birth year from 2003 to 1989 so they could get away with dumping her. She was a child and they knew it
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  603. Natalia was released after the Barnetts scheme turning her into an adult backfired. Lol. Barnetts could put a child in the hospital against her will, but NOT a legal adult. Backfired!!
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  604. What makes you think the agency wasn’t spoken to by the investigating detective? What I can’t figure out is Why they didn’t sue the agency and the Ciccones (who they adopted her from). Wait, nevermind, they didn’t sue because she really was 6
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  605. A story that sounds exactly like a fictional Hollywood movie sounds Credible???
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  606.  @___Alina___24  You can’t display duping delight unless you’re duping. She wasn’t duping.
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  607.  @bearandrabbit6826  Awe, bless your heart thinking Barnetts are from Florida
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  608.  @the-dullahan  Barnetts are from Indiana. They abandoned her 17 minutes from where the 2 girls were abducted from the Delphi high bridge. You’re gullible if you believe them
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  609. The bone scans (x rays) she doesn’t remember said she was estimated about 8 in 2010 & 11 in 2012 when they abandoned her.
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  610.  @tara_p_rose11  Based upon dental charts your daughter is supposed to still have some baby teeth, so what was the point of mentioning her?
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  611. Barnetts made that whole story up. The dad even told Dr Oz they didn’t think she was really from Ukraine. I would have loved to see their faces after her Ukrainian birth mom was found
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  612. Natalia is the victim. The only ones scamming are the Barnetts
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  613. If she had been 22 she would not have kept growing taller as the pictures show she did. Just more evidence the Barnetts pulled a fast one.
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  614. @Camiosis 3 attorneys now for Kristine. Holy mackerel, that must be costing her a fortune. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving failed parent.
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  615. @Imeh Smith Yes Barnetts had her in the psych hospital. But when Barnetts filed their age change request with the court they DID NOT claim Natalia admitted to be older. That filing is online. A social worker therapist from the hospital agreed she thought Natalia was older. I thinks it’s important to note that is the opinion of a licensed clinical social worker who IS NOT a medical doctor/psychiatrist.
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  616. Elti Carcani People are ignorant and there is an underlying bias against adopted people, foreign born people, and people who are disfigured/disabled. Then add in that the new parents, the Mans, are an interracial working class couple, more than a little bias against them, too. Look at what people have said about the DePauls, the family with dwarfism who wanted to adopt Natalia before Barnetts were selected. This is some sick sht.
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  617. Level 3 felony facing 20 yrs!! That’s how solid the case against the Barnetts is. I Hope they get time, too. Then sued for defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
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  618. @Spider Man She doesn’t want to be with Barnetts. She wants her true age restored so she can live her life and go to regular school like every other 16 yr old. Something denied her for 8 long yrs.
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  619. @Kelly Pierce You’re the one who needs help, not KandT. Thinking it’s funny to make jokes about a child victim. It’s disgusting.
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  620. “30 families”= Another unsubstantiated Barnett claim.
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  621. You believe an 18yr old entered this country with a Visa and Passport saying she was FOUR? And no one batted an eye? Not even the parents who adopted her? You must think everyone is stupid
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  622.  @Ryu_Kage.  Riiiight. I’ve been on youT for 12 yrs under my real name, but by golly you figured it out that I’m rEaLLy 19yr old Natalia.
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  623.  @camiosis  Kristine got bench slapped hard. She narrowly avoided a contempt finding & was warned that if she didn’t cease & desist that next time “there would be sanctions”. Her attorney tried to say that she just didn’t understand the gag order but the judge wasn’t having it. He pointed out how Natalia and Mr Barnetts understood it just fine. He also noted that Kristine was posting “inaccurate” information and was “mischaracterizing” the proceedings. He read one of her posts and called it “a complete misstatement”. OUCH. LOL
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  624.  @johnc1280  You should fact check what C is telling you. She is wrong. The Court of Appeals decision is published. There were 8 felony counts of Neglect of a Dependent. Counts 1, 3, 5 were dismissed due Soley to the Statute of Limitations. Counts 2, 4, 6, 7 & 8 remain. On the court docket we see that on Jan 13 Michael filed a new motion to dismiss count 7. Kristine has not yet filed any new motions. A court date for a conference hearing is scheduled for Feb 18.
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  625.  @TJKlownttv  The media is treating her like they treated Richard Jewell. He was not only innocent, but actually a hero who saved dozens of lives. She is truly the victim in this case
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  626. Real medical doctors and dentists have already assessed her age. The info is in the documents on the court website. She was a child and they knew it
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  627. Look up the movie, genius. It was inspired by the case of Barbora Skrlova. The loser parents borrowed the plot
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  628.  @soniamiles8695  Her age is not in legitimate question. Her birth mother was located and confirmed via DNA testing. The BM is 41, she was separated from the dad and already had a 4 year old when Natalia was born in a hospital. She relinquished her a birth due to her dwarfism. The prosecution has all these records and is fighting to bring some small amount of justice to her life. Natalia’s life has been anything but easy.
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  629. Grownups seeking an easy life marry a well off old codger then inherit after a few years. This is a profoundly disabled teen who was a legitimate child. You can easily see in the young photos
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  630. Their suspicions should have ended when Dr Riggs, head of the growth disorders clinic at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital, evaluated her & told them she was 8
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  631. Justice for Natalia Grace
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  632. Shaggy B Why did you kill her?
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  633. I heard you’re living in your mom’s basement
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  634. That already happened. Medical x rays showed open growth plates & dental x rays showed she was a child. The Barnetts knew she was a child when they left her.
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  635. If she was the con woman secret adult her loser adoptive parents are making her out to be then She would have been arrested, not them
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  636. Poppycock. Would an adult “scammer” have allowed Kristy to bathe her?? No.
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  637.  @julievanderleest  Don’t forget the dad Michael confessed. He admitted she was a child when they left her & that Kristine told her to say she was 22 only looked young. This document is on court website
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  638. Possible motive is one of the males in the house doing something to her, so they made this up to get rid of her “legally” and discredit any future disclosures
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  639. Your no. 2 makes no sense at all. She was 16 at time of Dr Phil interview in Oct 2019. Why tf would she be dressed like a little kid?? You also neglected to say if you actually grew more, but who cares? I didn’t grow after age 12. Importantly she did grow from when Barnetts adopted her in 2010 until what we clearly saw on Phil in 2019
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  640.  James Omar  Look above. Camiosis is talking to herself!!lol. Notice the 2 different Camiosis accounts. One with a red C, capitalized. One with an orange c, lowercase. Lol
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  641. @camiosis You’re a liar. The judge said the 2012 ruling that changed her birth year to 1989 is what made her an adult. But NOW we know that age change was wrong because of BioM.
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  642. How could she be born 1989 when her birth mom was born 1980 & was married when she had her?
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  643.  @thetraveler1182  According the them. According to people before them and after them she isn’t a problem at all.
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  644. How does her having dwarfism prove anything? Every adult with dwarfism was once a child with dwarfism. The Barnetts knew she had dwarfism before they agreed to adopt her.
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  645. Yet 12 years ago she just lost her first baby tooth and looks every bit 6 yrs old. Much more telling than guessing a teens age. You don’t lose your front baby tooth at 20
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  646. Age cannot be scientifically determined EXACTLY, but can reliably determine age to within +/- 3 years. This means the Barnetts knew she was a child. Even before her birth mom was found
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  647. @camiosis Whatever Pinocchi🤥
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  648. @mroldnewbie Exactly! Dude confessed. Game over. [Small correction—Barnetts are her adoptive parents, not foster parents].
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  649. @Julia A The situations in orphanages is abysmal & heartbreaking. But the little people family, DePauls, describe her in glowing terms. I wonder if because of her size & intelligence that she was treated better at the orphanage. She was super tiny and a very beautiful little girl. She may have gotten special treatment. As for Jacob, despite his early diagnosis (if that is even true), he was never disabled. In her book Kristine writes about taking him to the planetarium at age 3 and him wowing the crowd by answering the lecturer’s question correctly. She “homeschooled” him in preschool, but then he attended regular school in a regular classroom. He was not famous when Barnetts adopted Natalia (May 2010). His notoriety came after the first newspaper article about him in March 2011. Then it was a whirlwind of interviews and appearances. Definitely was no time to be sitting at home caring for a disabled child she didn’t give birth to. I really think that’s what it came down to. Kristine was getting her need for fame and admiration off of Jacob. She didn’t need a daughter with dwarfism anymore. Kinda like how the Stauffer family (google Myka Stauffer) did to their internationally adopted son. Once Stauffers got rich off of son Huxley, they dumped him.
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  650. @Julia A The evidence for Aleksandar’s claims is in Kristine’s book. Literally. She wrote her #2 son was born with Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy. Look that up. No way was an infant born with that. That’s some Munchauseny bullshz. As for Jacob, SHE wrote in her book that his neuropsychologist declared him “fully recovered” in 2010. Now if you know anything about autism you’d know that it’s a permanent neurological condition. Your symptoms can improve, BUT you never are cured. You never have it, then don’t have it. But the whole premise of Kristine’s book is that SHE basically cured him. She says that ALL families can “pull a child out of autism” with enough effort. Then she wants you to pay her for her method of doing this. She literally sells desperate families her “Spark Method”.
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  651. Segree Currie If Barnetts had actual proof she was an adult then they wouldn’t have been charged with 8 felony counts. Doctors at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital throughly evaluated her back then, and determined she was a child. Even the dentists Barnetts took her to said she was a child. They concealed all that evidence. Then the dad Michael confessed. How much clearer can it be??
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  652. This is manufactured confusion. The Barnetts are trying to make it look that way because they’ve been arrested. THEY are the ones who OBJECT to allowing a jury to hear the evidence & decide
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  653.  @UlricGrim  Yet somehow the people that went to Ukraine, visited her, adopted her, took her to many doctors, didn’t know? Or were they (Ciccones) in on the “scam”
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  654. I’m no fan of Phil but at least he gave her an outlet to speak out against the lies the Barnetts are telling about her. Why anyone is swallowing the Barnetts preposterous story is a better question.
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  655. Megha, all you gotta do is take a look her pictures back then to know she absolutely had not reached puberty at age 6. The Barnetts are the ultimate con artists
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  656. No. She’s still living with them, drama free.
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  657. Rohan Tandra She WAS a 6yr old and she DIDN’T even have a period to hide. Barnetts are lying. Kristine made a career out of lying and her wimpy husband went along with it
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  658. Sure, never mind that the parents were arrested after a 5 yr investigation which includes discovery of her birth mom, birth records, her medical and dental records, proving She was born 2003 not 1989
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  659. She didn’t speak English at first. In her medical records it says they had to use a translator
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  660. No, she’s telling the truth. Her old adoptive parents defrauded the court to have her turned into a legal adult so they could get away with ditching her. That’s why THEY are charged, not her
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  661. Don’t let the facts get in the way. Her birth mother was found. She was born in 1980. So there’s no way Natalia was born in 1989. Her mom gave her up at birth. I guess you think a newborn can be evil.
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  662. Go watch a few more Dhar Mann videos. You clearly aren’t getting the message to say such a hateful thing about this girl who has already suffered so much abuse
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  663. NOT the same size. Proven by photographs and medical records. Now undeniable as the bio mom was proven via DNA testing
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  664. She said “Old enough to go to LARA, she HAD TO BE at least 18”. So her opinion was based upon her going adult ed, not what she looked like. Her age had already been changed
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  665. Her birth mother was located and DNA confirmed. The girl was telling the truth. The Barnetts are terrible people
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  666. Well this new judge approved 8 felony charges against Barnetts for neglecting their minor daughter, so obviously that other judge got it wrong.
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  667. Yea that was stupid. He’s supposed to research. If he did he’d have found that Kristine took her to EZ Dental in 2011 for an age estimate and they told her Natalia was between 8 & 9. The next year she saw dentist Ronald Deckard and he estimated 6 to 9. She was definitely a child and the parents knew
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  668. The adoption agency never had custody of Natalia. They’re an adoption agency, not state foster care. Michael Barnett said Natalia was given up FIVE MINUTES before Barnetts arrived.
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  669. It sure was. Criminals getting lazy these days, can’t come up with an original alibi.
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  670. Poppycock. She was 6 when they got her and 8 when they ditched her, even if she did “try to kill them” (cough cough Bullsht) she couldn’t be charged, she was too young.
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  671. This DOES happen a lot. People adopting children for all the wrong reasons, then rehoming or ditching them like a dog. This kid was 9 yrs old and disabled. Her birth mom was found. Dates match
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  672. They didn’t “report it” because it never happened. Be logical. Someone’s trying to kill your wife & kids so you don’t report it but get her an apartment instead?? It’s defies logic cause it’s a lie
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  673. The only parents telling the truth are the Mans (who’ve been mom & dad for EIGHT YEARS now), and the DePauls (who gave her baths along side their own daughter & saw no difference)
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  674.  @stevereddy9515  They knew she had dwarfism & needed surgeries when they adopted her. But their son wasn’t “famous” yet. As his “star” rose they hadn’t the time nor inclination to care for her
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  675. No kidding. Why do you think the parents got arrested? It was because the testing, the x rays, proved she was very young.
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  676. Having a superior intellect doesn’t make you an adult. She actually wasn’t doing too good alone. People were calling CPS left and right. But they couldn’t help cause of the fraudulent age change
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  677. That Haitian girl dodged a far worse fate. The Barnetts are lying child abusers
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  678. Barnetts clearly did. Copied the movie almost scene for scene.
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  679. Trials are coming later this year. Sept for Mike, Oct for Kristy, plus a hearing this coming May for Kristy on allegations she violated the gag order
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  680. You know that’s not true? There’s many photos showing her baby teeth, missing front teeth, adult one’s growing in
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  681. @First Last You said previously that your form of dwarfism was proportionate. Therefore I know you do not have the same as Natalia, as Diastrophic Dysplasia is disproportionate
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  682. @First Last Determining Natalia’s age via teeth is the same as for my daughter. Yes, it’s a range which varies by age of person evaluated.
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  683. @First Last Subtype of dwarfism matters. YOU do NOT have the same subtype of dwarfism as Natalia. Therefore YOU are no more qualified that the average person, to offer an opinion.
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  684. sssss You must not be looking at the earliest photos of Natalia. Check out RTG’s video, the photo w/white turtleneck & blue dress (Halloween costume 2009). Missing 2 baby teeth, adult growing in https://youtu.be/vBSl9jS4oFI
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  685. That’s called Mirroring. If you watch the episode you’ll see that Dr Phil is making a similar face & asking a question and she is reacting & mirroring HIS expression. Humans do that.
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  686.  @kimberlybradford8645  You can’t fake x rays. Medical & dental x rays prove she was a child. If you don’t understand this testing I’d be happy to explain it to you.
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  687. Why did the Harts adopt SIX children just to drive off the cliff with them? You should check out the Adoptee Memorial Wall blog. Adopted kids are hurt or killed by parents just like bio kids.
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  688. Her DNA confirmed birth mother was born in 1979. Her authentic birth certificate was issued at birth and it says 2003
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  689.  @MMC-jp1gl  Yes lies can be quite powerful. Lies led to this little boy being deprived of his father for 5 years while the mother convinced doctors to perform 13 major surgeries on him. https://youtu.be/PgPm131LD9w Eventually the father succeeded in proving the child was perfectly healthy and the mom pled guilty to medical abuse and was sentenced to (a mere!) 6 years in prison. Munchausen by proxy is difficult to detect and prove, and it very likely what Natalia’s adoptive mother inflicted upon her (and possibly even the other children). But you won’t see that on youT. “Real life Orphan” is much more salacious to the average person. Michael Barnett is a liar. And it’s not hard to figure out. Who saw hair? No one. And no doctor ever reported such. Baby teeth common to her condition ? No it’s not. And you don’t have to be a doctor to read about her condition and see what I’m saying is the truth. Courts see her as an adult? First, no court EVER saw her before changing her age. There was no court hearing. The judge simply believed the Barnetts. Like the judge who prevented the father in the story I linked from seeing his son. There’s much more you don’t know about this story here. But we are all responsible for our own words and have an obligation to not bear false witness. Lastly, her birth mother has been found and DNA confirmed. Her birth documents prove what the Barnetts knew all along- Natalia was born 2003 and was a true child.
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  690.  @MMC-jp1gl  The Barnetts lied about her. They are in serious peril, spiritually. Natalia’s father (Mr Mans) is a Christian minister. She is a very devout young lady living in a true Christian home. She chose baptism after joining their family, something her previous parents never thought important. Natalia and the Mans are actually praying for the Barnetts. They want them to stop lying and admit what they’ve done and then get right with God. They have more faith than I do, because I don’t think the Barnetts will ever choose honesty. Michael did for a brief moment when he confessed that she was really a child and Kristine coached her to lie about her age. But after his arrest he disavowed his confession. Did you know he is not even in his son’s lives anymore? Not since he abandoned them in Canada and returned to Indiana and divorced Kristine. He actually accused Kristine of abusing him and called her evil publicly on faceB years ago. Now he’s already getting divorced from his second wife. I will definitely be helping Natalia once the gag order is lifted. That’s one good thing to come out of this—People who wish to assist her.
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  691.  @MMC-jp1gl  Thank you for the blessing. It would serve you well to go down the rabbit hole. You’d find that Natalia was seen by Dr Michael Millis, Professor of Orthopedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School; Dr Samantha Spencer, Associate Professor of Orthopedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School; Dr John Emans, Professor of Orthopedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School; Dr David Harris, Lecturer of Pediatrics at Harvard Medical School, when she was a patient at Children’s Hospital Boston. These doctors and others confirmed she was a child. Or...you can continue to bear false witness against her. I will pray for you.
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  692.  @MMC-jp1gl  Dr McLaren? The guy who misdiagnosed her type of dwarfism? Who didn’t rely on skeletal or dental x rays? VS Experts in the field who used validated scientific methods
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  693.  @MMC-jp1gl  I don’t understand. Earlier you correctly said doctors could reasonably guess the age of a child. Then when informed what age estimates the doctors gave, you still think she was an adult? This kid, who is 18 now but was 16 on Phil, has been really screwed over.
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  694. You really think they wouldn’t lie? Why? Do you know them? I’m just wondering what your basis is for trusting 2 people who have been arrested for crimes against her. Criminal defendants do tend to lie. Their story makes zero sense. You said yourself that you’d have called 911. But they never called authorities. Their solution to a homicidal psychopath trying to kill them (thats their description) is to get her an apartment. Makes no sense whatsoever, like most lies
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  695.  @camiosis9024  Counts 1, 3 & 5 dismissed due to Statute of Limitations. Counts 2, 4, 6, 7, 8 proceeding on theory she was dependent due to disabilities.
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  696.  @camiosis9024  I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you. That you cannot understand what you read isn’t my problem.
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  697.  @camiosis9024  There’s 5 remaining felony counts of Neglect of a Dependent. Counts 2, 4, 6, 7 & 8. Mikey only motioned to dismiss count 7. Legal fees must be suffocating 😂
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  698. Yes, Camo, Natalia does know exactly how old she is. Barnetts also knew. It’s just too bad those scum Barnetts had to lie about it and say she was born in 1989 when they KNEW she’s born 2003 (edit- corrected typo. S/b 1989 not 1988, thanks for catching that camo sis)
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  699.  @Viera2003  There are even earlier photos now, of her at the orphanage holding a doll. Definitely a young child.
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  700.  James Omar  You nailed it. He’s a punk and he knows it. Who else expends their energy picking on a defenseless little teen girl? Nauseating
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  701.  James Omar  That’s basically what I called him, but in Shakespearian prose. “Foot licker” is from The Tempest, Act IV scene 1
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  702.  James Omar  He’s got a crush on you. A real foot-licker, that guy
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  703.  James Omar  You’ve got a good point there. Although I’m leaning more towards her having a kid with autism & being one of Kristine’s Spark families than being employed by their PR firm. But either way she’s just taking orders.
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  704.  @r.shanethompson7933  I didn’t say disqualified. As long as your civil rights were restored you could legally sit on a jury in Indiana, provided you’re a resident of the county that’s issuing the summons
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  705.  @r.shanethompson7933  Unlikely you’d ever get on a jury Robert
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  706.  James Omar  The lies from that one just keep growing and growing and growing. So transparent.
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  707.  @camiosis9024  Well he certainly didn’t choose Terrance for his legal acumen. TK is a disgraced lawyer. I’d never hire someone who had their license suspended for lying.
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  708.  James Omar  He didn’t pick him because he’s black, he picked him because he’s also around 5’6”-ish and Michael, also only 5’6” was thinking of the cameras, how short he’d look next to ave size man
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  709.  James Omar  He’s a disgraced attorney. Check out his disciplinary record
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  710. Michael the con confessed.
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  711. The Barnetts were arrested and charged with 8 felonies. Michael confessed. They are forever exposed for their heinous cruelty towards a disabled child. Which also begs a look at all their past claims about their “genius” “autistic” son and the charity in His Name. What happened to the almost 200k in donations they raked in? #ShowMeTheMoney
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  712.  James Omar  Mike’s lawyer wasn’t too swift. Mike should have googled him B4 hiring him. Dude had his license suspended for 6 months for lying in court filings previously. Then he filed a revenge lawsuit against the woman who filed the grievance against him with the Attorney Grievance Committee. He got bench slapped HARD for those stunts. It’s amazing Indiana still allows him to practice law.
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  713.  @r.shanethompson7933  Yea Shane, read the court documents. You’re very familiar with court documents, aren’t you R. Shane “Thompson”????
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  714.  @camiosis9024  BARNETTS EXPOSED!!So precious how you read the filings but don’t understand any of it. I can’t help you there. You simply lack the intellectual firepower 🔥 🔥 The prosecution listed her medical and dental records that prove she was a child and we all read it. The Barnetts claimed that doctors testing said she was older, but the truth is ALL they had were the supposed claims of a measly social worker. NOT ONE test that they claimed. WOW. Natalia said she was 35 back in 2011? Lordy call the Pope in Rome, we got a child OLDER than her Birth Mother. Barnetts are toast 🍞 I think a jury is finally going to hear ALL the evidence.
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  715.  James Omar  “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice”. You are so right when you say “...some people think they get away with some stuff....”
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  716.  @camiosis9024  You’re contradicting the Barnetts. Tsk tsk. They said they adopted her from the Ciccones AND they even had a copy of Ciccone’s finalized adoption decree.
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  717.  @Trogdor1365  I don’t know why Camiosis said the first family “returned” Natalia after 2 months. She gets a lot wrong. The Barnetts actually said they adopted her from the Ciccones.
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  718.  @joeiborowski9763  Well what could be more exciting than getting to the end of the earth and falling off into the great abyss? Lol 😂
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  719.  @tracyriley8164  Tracy they found her birth mother. In Ukraine. Confirmed by DNA. She has the original documentation which proves the 2003 birth year was correct.
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  720.  @camiosis9024  Sweetheart, by the time Natalia arrived here she was already adopted. She was with her legal parents. There were no more “adoption requirements”. Reading is fundamental
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  721.  @camiosis9024  Natalia came to America with her legal adoptive parents. The Ukraine REQUIRES by law that the adoption happens IN UKRAINE. Just go to the State Dept website & stop being so evil
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  722.  @camiosis9024  You say the stupidest shz. A translator is required?? Lol. By who? The only requirement is the medical ethics that requires a doctor be able to converse with their patient. If their patient doesn’t speak English, then the doctor calls in a translator. Doesn’t matter if the patient is adopted or not. You crack me up with your fiction.
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  723. @James Omar She needs a high profile attorney to advise her and represent her. She has never had an attorney. I’d be suing every single person who violated my rights
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  724. @James Omar I’m disgusted beyond belief at Gary and Dyan Lee Puma Ciccone of New Hampshire. Frankly, disgusted with their adult sons too, but I’ll stop shy at naming them as well. Ciccones names were already published by the Daily Mail.
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  725.  @seanbrown9048  How about we start right here is the good old U S of A? Let’s start by making it illegal to change an adopted child’s birth year? Too harsh? Ok, then at a minimum limit to change to 2 years. Not what they did to Natalia, changing her birth year by 14 years. One can only wonder how many other little girls were turned into adults, stripped of all the legal protections afforded children. And I mean literally Wonder, because these age changes happen under the cloak of adoption confidentiality. No one is keeping track. No one.
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  726.  @seanbrown9048  There has never been a full hearing on her age. The 1st court changed her age without ANY hearing. No witnesses, no testimony, no medical records, no due process. Another court declined to reverse the ruling and did not conduct a full hearing on her age. The appellate court was adjudicating the Barnetts, not her age. Natalia has never had an attorney. Never testified in court. Yet had her rights stripped. Her right to parental support. Her right to an appropriate education. Her right to have her birth certificate accurately reflect her true age. Her childhood was stolen, her future foreclosed and her character assassinated. I care very much about children’s rights in general and hers in particular. Perhaps you could manage to care just enough to not add to the chorus of the folks hating on this innocent victim?
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  727. I find it hard to believe that you actually find the father’s story more believable. Here’s his story in brief: They adopted her in 2010 when she was 6 and she had a birth certificate saying her birth year was 2003; they say her real birth year in 1989 and the court amended her birth year to reflect that. THAT sounds legit to you? So she wasn’t 6, she was 20 years old? Let’s back this up to the first family, the ones who traveled to Ukraine and adopted her from the orphanage in July 2008, the Ciccones. According to her original birth certificate she was 4 when Ciccones adopted her, but according to Barnetts she was really 18. The Ciccones believed her to be 4. Immigration did not bat an eye when Natalia entered the US with a passport & visa saying she was 4. She entered kindergarten having just turned 5 and no one doubted she was 5, but according to Barnetts she was 19 at that point. The Ciccones took her to Boston Children’s Hospital for her conditions. The Drs took tons of x rays and mapped out a surgery schedule. Did a 19 yr old trick the orthopedic surgeon? HOW? Adults do not have growth plates. The x rays would have proven she was much much older than 5. She also had ALL baby teeth. How did an 18/19 year old have ALL baby teeth? So she faked her age and when she turned 6 on the fake age her baby teeth started falling out right on schedule for a 6 year old. What are the odds? In order for Barnetts story to be true, You’d have to believe a lot of other implausible things to be true. Or perhaps it’s like Occam’s razor and the simplest thing is true— The Barnetts are liars.
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  728. Betty, all those things you mention were done. Dentists ✅ Growth plates✅ According to her doctors she was a child. Read the police affidavit on the blog Justice For Natalia Grace
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  729. @Pretty Geny I would ask that you look at the photos the DePauls shared from 11 yrs ago. If she is 25/26 today, then in Those DePaul photos she should look 14/15. But she doesn’t. She looks about 6. She’s missing her two front teeth and you can see the adult one growing in. Her face looked babyish then, but doesn’t now.
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  730. That “fact” is not a fact. In fact, It was a lie
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  731. Exactly. They even found her birth mom now. Confirmed by DNA. So in addition to actual medical & dental proof, there’s now her hospital birth records and she unequivocally is 17 now
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  732. Read it all at mycase.in.gov Case number 20A-CR-01968 Michael P Barnett
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  733. The Marion Co judge did not have the legal authority to change her age. I side with the Hamilton Co judge who said her birthdate was Sept 4, 2003.
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  734.  @camiosis9024  I am so glad the Ciccones helped get the Barnetts arrested. No need for them the blast Barnetts publicly. They spoke when it mattered—to the detective and prosecution.
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  735.  @camiosis9024  Gee how do you explain the Nov 2009 obituary condolences that Gary Ciccone left on the website which listed his children’s names and Natalia’s was listed?? Try again Pinocchiosis! Screenshots are on the Justice For Natalia Grace blog. Further, Ukraine doesn’t have an international adoption program. Fail again. Lol. Besides, the document Kristy leaked referenced the Ciccones Ukrainian adoption that was finalized in Ukraine and they attached a copy of the decree. Lol. Dang. Every lie you tell can be proven to be a lie. That Kristine sure is a nut, telling all you peeps in her Facebook group that nonsense. And you all must be dumb as a box of rocks to keep repeating her lies.
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  736. @Camiosis You Lie, Pinocchiosis. Lol Ya uh huh a 1989 birth certificate THAT THE JUDGE DIDN’T MENTION in his dismissal order. You also say DNA cannot prove her Bio Mom? Gee, has Maury Povich been faking it all these years?http://media.heartlandtv.com/documents/ORDER+GRANTING+Dismissal+I+through+VI.pdf
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  737. @Justin LaBoy Kinda makes you wonder if he was ever really diagnosed with “moderate to severe” autism at the age of 2. Seems like his mom just wanted to hype up his story & cash in
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  738.  @frankferburger5980  What do you expect an accused criminal to say? You think he’s gonna fess up on National television? Of course not. So tell me, what did they do after “discovering” she was far far older than 6? 😱 I’ll tell you, they took her home to Indiana, waited the 6 months time, then went before a judge and finalized the adoption. Like, they weren’t even obligated to keep her before that, she wasn’t their legal child before that. Why should anyone believe them? Lord man, you might have a distrust of foreigners, but are we really at the place all an accused child abuser has to do is tell a tall tale and people turn on the victim? She was born 2003.
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  739. No kidding she’s not 6. She was 6 when Barnetts adopted her. In 2010 😂🤣😂
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  740.  @yourgirljuls  Yea the reporting has been really misleading because they will be talking about when she was 6 or 8 but showing pics or video of when she’s 13/14/15. A blog has all the pics in order, called Justice For Natalia Grace
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  741. Because she was a child
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  742. Actually all the tests showed she was a child. That’s why Barnetts withheld those results/records from the age changing judge
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  743. No amount of scheming can cause a 20 yr old to pass for a 6 yr old, which is what the Barnetts claim. EVERYBODY before Barnetts knew this child was a child. Your sympathy is misplaced
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  744. I’m no Phil fan, but he got it right that she wasn’t the age Barnetts claim. Not even close. Her medical/dental records prove she was very young. Her birth mom lays any further questions to rest
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  745. They’ve only convinced the stupid people. Sadly, there are a lot of stupid people.
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  746. The girl was a real child.
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  747. Child abusers (The Barnetts) are the worst.
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  748.  @ns2110theonly  The Mans are not her legal guardians. In fact, when they filed in court to try to become her guardians, Michael filed to block it (which PROVES Barnetts adoption wasn’t annulled as you falsely claimed. If it had been annulled then he would not have been allowed to interfere in the Mans attempt to gain guardianship. Further, a legal proceeding to annul an adoption is public. IF that happened it would be on the court website—It isn’t)
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  749.  @camiosis  The fiction you write isn’t even good fiction. If there existed an authentic Ukrainian birth certificate saying 1989 you’d have never been arrested, Kristine
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  750. They know she’s 17 now. The issue is Does it Matter? Cause Barnetts did get a court ordered age change, even tho proven false now. But it might shield them from criminal consequences
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  751. It’s hard work caring for a disabled child who needs multiple surgeries. They had “buyer’s remorse” so came up with the scheme to get rid of her. Now they’re caught so blaming her
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  752. C C Yes, the Barnetts, the ones that were arrested
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  753. She actually saw experts. Like Dr Riggs, head of the growth disorders clinic at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital. He estimated her age as about 8 (in 2010 when she was 7)
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  754. Well call a Uhaul, cause you’re movin. Natalia was adopted at age 4 in 2008 by the Ciccones. She had a birth certificate. Movie came out 2009. Barnetts adopted her in 2010.
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  755. If the Barnetts had a legitimate claim, don’t you think they would have sued back in 2010/11/12? They didn’t sue because she was an actual child. Yes she’s from Ukraine. The first family, who Barnetts met and adopted her from, Gary & Dyan Ciccone, traveled to Ukraine and adopted her there before bringing her home to the US in July 2008. The reason she speaks English like a native is because she was only 4 when she came here.
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  756. Apparently you don’t realize they adopted her in 2010. She was 6 THEN. Phil was filmed 2019. Thus, she was 16 THEN. She’s currently 17 & her 41 yr old Ukrainian birthmom was located
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  757.  @dougcurrie3025  Actually that isn’t true that “no one could verify” her past. Barnetts had the information all along. And no they couldn’t send her back to Ukraine. They legally adopted her. They did change her life in a not-good way. She could have died from their neglect.
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  758. Obviously a 16yr old can speak directly/precisely, because she was 16 here. Med & dental x rays proved she was a child, her bio mom confirmed she’s born 2003. Facts not feelings
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  759. You mean as opposed to the suckers who believe a story that was ripped straight out of a fictional Hollywood movie?
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  760. They don’t look any better since her birth mother was found and confirmed her real age. The girl was really a child born 2003
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  761. Little Lady You watched a Dr Phil clip and “got chills” and your stomach twisted, and you’re calling me triggered?? Lol Mkay
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  762. You obviously need to have your “lie detector” recalibrated because it ain’t working very well.
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  763.  @reginasaran3113  Natalia told Dr Phil “Kristine says I’ve been with 30 families”. He must have not heard the “Kristine says” part. Because in the court documents even the Barnetts say they got her from the Ciccones, and the Ciccones adopted her in Ukraine and brought her here. So it’s actually Not in dispute and all involved parties know exactly where she was at all times since entering the US.
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  764. @David Hyrman So what face does someone make when the question ACTUALLY IS so bizarre it’s almost funny? If liars and truthers make the exact same expression then why is that evidence of lying? That’s circular logic
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  765. Definitely Barnetts are crazy...crazy like a fox
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  766. This is why the Barnetts hurried to get their story out first. They understand psychology. They hired a PR firm to help craft their narrative. All to cast doubt on their victim. Sounds like it worked on you
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  767.  @Eleesa77  She wasn’t in foster care. You can read the documents posted on the court website. Barnetts own filings say they adopted her from the C’s and the C’s adopted her in Ukraine. Or pay attention to Mike’s interviews- He says they had to make a quick decision or else she’d “Go Into foster care”. As if they’re good people saving her from foster care. Their words. The origin of Dr Phil’s mistake-The interviews of her & her “new” parents she said “Kristine told me I was with at least 30 families”. So this was something Kristine told her, but wasn’t true, based on their own words & filings
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  768.  @Eleesa77  She came here in 2008 with the 1st adoptive parents. Barnetts adopted her from them. She was never in foster care. There are no “30 families”.
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  769. In Indiana it is illegal to neglect a Dependent of any age. Regardless of her being an actual child, they put her in a dangerous environment and her needs, inc medical, weren’t met
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  770.  @akane8695  Why do you think she didn’t have a birth certificate?
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  771. I think the statistics are about 15% of adoptees with disabilities are rehomed/returned/readopted. That’s an awful lot. Do you think All these adopted for love, too?
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  772. That’s not what was said
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  773. Not quite, she turned 17 in September
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  774. Nope. The Barnetts adopted her in 2010 when she was 6.
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  775. Cause she’s not the one lying. The Barnetts are lying. She was genuinely a child and they knew that
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  776.  @camiosis9024  If their claims were true they’d have filed suit against Shepherd Care AND the Ciccones. But they didn’t. Because Shepherd Care and Ciccones aren’t defenseless and their lawyers would have obliterated the Barnetts nonsense. Then the world would have learned in 2012 what we learned in 2019–The Barnetts are liars and bad people
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  777.  @camiosis9024  Well if thumbtacks are bad, Kristine better reel in her youngest. He’s online admitting to using a staple gun to staple his co-workers in the back at his last job at an office supply co. The way he told the story was like it was funny, and it kinda was. I wonder if he put the thumbtacks down and blamed Natalia? 🤔
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  778.  @jonnyvegasxd4058  Sure, baby face Barnett, heavily armed with Pinesol and thumbtacks 😂🤣😂
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  779. When you adopt, whether child or adult, they are legally your child forever. The only way to change that is to go to court to void the adoption. Something the Barnetts NEVER did. How sus is that? If they’re telling the truth, why didn’t they file suit to void the adoption?? (Psst it’s cause they’re lying)
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  780. See the photos the Barnetts don’t want you to see https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  781. She actually is 16 here. Her birth mother was found and her original labor & delivery records prove Natalia was born in 2003, just as her birth certificate said. Barnetts are bad people
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  782. Birth mother located +original hospital birth records +medical x rays showed open growth plates+ dental x rays showed child’s dentition==child
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  783.  @geekzsti  Alibi for child neglect. Saying she wasn’t really a child. Also hoping that people think their heinous behavior was somehow justified even if she was a child (which she was). You don’t have to be a prodigy to get into college early when you’re a celebrity. Proof is in the pudding. Where is he now? Doing respectably at 23, but no where near “prodigy” level. He only has a Bachelors Degree in Independent Studies (so, not even Physics). Where’s that PhD?? Not awarded yet.
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  784. In general, yes, 6 yr olds don’t have hair down there. So why do you believe them when they say she did? They’re alibi building (lying). Making up anything they can to flip the script.
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  785. It’s not really, but the arrested parents sure want people to think it’s like that fictional Hollywood movie.
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  786. You’re talking about foster care, where the goal IS to reunite children w/their parents. Once an adoption is final there’s no going back. Her birthmom proves she was 6 when Barnetts adopted her.
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  787. DanCin in the MoonLight Oh no no no. Perimeter is a highly respected physics educational institution. Highly respected. He’s been there since 2013. He was the reason they moved to Canada. I’m not knocking Perimeter. I’m not knocking Jacob either, just dialing back from his mothers exaggerating promotion of him as “smarter than Einstein”. He’s talented, but only in one area. And is clearly not a savant.
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  788. No, that’s just what they “claimed”. But the police investigation spanning 5 yrs uncovered her actual records and they said she was a child and told the parents she was a child. They’re just creeps
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  789. She actually was 16. On top of all the skeletal & dental x rays that confirmed that, even her birth mother was tracked down and confirmed it.
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  790. No, you can’t “see it in her face”. She’s not lying. Seriously, you think an adult passed as a kindergartner? 1st grader? 2nd grader? 3rd grader? Absurd
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  791. Her DNA confirmed birth mother is 41. You think she gave birth when she was under 10 years old?
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  792.  @camiosis9024  You’re loco. So hilarious how badly you want to defend Barnutts that you actually keep denying that a maternity DNA test can unequivocally prove maternity. Lol. Then you talk about an age dna test that doesn’t exist, insofar as those test don’t prove chronological age. Furthermore the judge didn’t rule that the new evidence was insufficient. The judge ruled without any new evidence being admitted yet. So how can he pass judgement on evidence that he hasn’t evaluated?! Lol. All the judge considered was the 2012 age change order. That’s was res judicata means. That’s why the appeal is an “interlocutory appeal”. You’re the only one lying here Pinocchiosis. Very transparently.
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  793. @itkovian11 Just reported. Prosecutor is appealing the dismissal. With undeniable proof she was born 2003. Also that Marion Co didn’t have authority to change her BC in 2012, that authority vested in Hamilton Co because Hamilton Co is who issued her Indiana BC after Barnetts adopted her in that county. But regardless of the outcome of criminal case, W/Bio mom her age is definitively established. She’s 16.
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  794. BIO mom confirmed. Game over. Proves her original birth certificate was correct. Born 2003
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  795. If you watch the show you’ll hear her say “Kristine SAID I was with 30 families”. Dr Phil was mistaken to repeat Kristine’s lie as if it was fact. She was not with 30 families.
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  796. Yes she had a birth certificate. She was born Sept 2003. The Barnetts had her birth year changed from 2003 to 1989. By filing a court petition. No court hearing. Judge never saw Natalia.
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  797.  @shirleybates3404  They weren’t telling the truth. They got her medical records, the schedule of surgeries she needed and the 1st parent’s adoption decree
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  798. To try to make her look like the monster, instead of them. They had a ready made story by way of the Hollywood movie Orphan. They weren’t making these claim B4 they were arrested
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  799.  @headerahelix  When a child is very young, 4 or under, when adopted like Natalia was, it is expected the child will not be bilingual or have an accent. The child basically has 2 first languages
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  800.  @cbr274  You must not be good at math. Her birth mom is only 41. Kinda makes it implausible if not impossible for her to be 33
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  801.  @aristired6252  I agree with that. Growth plate predicting age is not exact but within a range of approx. 3yrs. However, this is true for all humans, with or without dwarfism. The Barnetts are promoting the idea that her dwarfism made the tests meaningless and that’s absolutely untrue.
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  802.  @aristired6252  ALL children have growth plates until around adulthood. ALL, regardless of dwarfism. It’s total falsehood to claim a skeletal survey is somehow hampered by her dwarfism.
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  803. Sure, conspiracies are much more plausible than the simple truth
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  804. Well we know Ciccones, DePauls, Barnetts, adoption agency, US immigration, IN courts, ALL had/have her original Ukrainian birth certificate
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  805. Very obvious inconsistencies that point to the Barnetts guilt: 1) Their complaints sound like a Hollywood movie. Wait! This was a movie. Almost scene for scene the movie Orphan, which came out a year before they adopted her. Not very original, Barnetts 😂 2) The way they fled. Like they were leaving the scene of their crimes. After having stuck her in a county where no one who knew she was a child knew where she was. The folks in the Little People community (like the DePauls who had tried to adopt her) were led by Barnetts to believe she was in Canada with them. The people who could have helped her didn’t know she needed help. 😢 3) Accent. Adult generally retain an accent. Young children will lose their accent. The fact she had no discernible Ukrainian accent on Dr Phil supports that she was a young child when she came here, just like her immigration documents showed (she was 4). 4) She definitely has the maturity of one who has survived a great deal. Very impressive that she conducted herself so well on national television. Obviously very intelligent as well. Dr Phil is hit-or-miss. He’s certainly made terrible mistakes with other guests. But he got this one right. It’d be nice if he paid for her to go to Ukraine and meet her birth mother and full biological siblings. Her birth mother was DNA confirmed so there is zero doubt she is her birth mom. I bet Barnetts thought Natalia was a traditional orphan. In fact she was a social orphan. Her mother could not take care of her and relinquished her at birth, as she was separated from Natalia’s father and already had a 4 yr old. Later her parents reconciled and had more children. Sadly her father is now deceased.
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  806.  @krustycrb7182  🙏🏼Praying the Indiana Supreme Court does the right thing and allows the State the chance to prove to a jury what we all already know.
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  807.  @s.o.o4800  You are assuming she didn’t bring proof because Dr Phil didn’t show it. She had no control whatsoever over how the show edited everything. Then by the time the show aired, she and her unofficial parents were under gag order. So they had no way to complain, explain or dispute anything. I’m just an ave person and saw a few documents before the show came out because they were published elsewhere. Dr P could have easily shown those of anything they brought.
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  808. Her birth mom was married but separated from Natalia’s father. Natalia is her second child, 1st child was 4 yrs old. Her parents reconciled & had more children (none with dwarfism). Natalia’s dwarfism is autosomal recessive genetic. It’s not associated with mother’s age. The birth mom has her birth records. The orphanage also shows Natalia was admitted as an infant. There’s really no other conclusion than Natalia was a genuine child and Barnetts did what they’re accused of
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  809.  James Omar  I love all these 40+ yr old women that think they look like teenagers still. Lol
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  810. The parents lied about the test results in the interviews they gave. Her actual medical and dental records revealed that doctors took x rays and told the Barnetts she was a child.
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  811. Wow. A story from accused abusers is all it takes, eh?
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  812.  @camiosis  Nicole DePaul has the EXACT same type of dwarfism as Natalia- Diastrophic Dysplasia. This fact is all over her facebk, so you should go check it out. Natalia lost her very first baby tooth while visiting with DePauls who did not even meet Natalia until September 2009. She lost her second baby tooth with her 1st parents, the Ciccones. The DePauls daughter’s video showed that by Christmas 2009 Natalia’s 2 front teeth had grown in. She had no other adult teeth at that time, so she obviously didn’t have all her adult teeth by April 2010 only 4 months later. You can confirm that yourself by looking at the first pic of the Barnetts while still in FL. Two front teeth adult, rest are baby. The results of the dentists that Kristine took her to is published in the probable cause affidavit. First one said she was 8-9, the second one said 6-9. Natalia didn’t have delayed dentition. This was right on schedule with her true age—Lost her first baby tooth at age 6. That’s a wrap folks ;-)
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  813.  @kierraking1662  The little family, DePauls, said she was with them when she lost her 1st baby tooth & that they lose babyteeth/gain adult teeth same time as everyone else. Def a child
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  814.  @camiosis9024  Keep trying 😂
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  815.  @camiosis9024  You’re making no sense, as usual. Keep trying 👍
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  816. You don’t have to be a doctor to distinguish a child from an adult. Natalia was a child when the Barnetts abandoned her.
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  817. Yea she’s grown here, at 16 most teens look like adults. But back in 2010 when they adopted her, she was a child. Pictures show her losing her front baby teeth & adult ones growing in= child
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  818. Of course we do. Validated accuracy within a range of about 3 years. That’s how come they were arrested despite the inability for science to say Exactly exactly her age. Because the oldest est was 11 in 2012
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  819. @M Yes, I’ve been following it. I’ve always felt a soft spot for children. In the past I’ve volunteered at my county’s domestic violence shelter and was always partial to the plight of abused kids. My aunt and uncle were foster parents for 30+ years. I grew up with a revolving door of temporary cousins. Some kids really get a raw deal in life. Natalia has really gotten a raw deal in life. I think there are a lot of clues to why this happened to her to be found. Even in the book Kristine wrote. You can really get a sense of her as a mother and as a person. I find her morally repugnant. I don’t think her heart was in the right place from the get go. I don’t even think she has much of a heart. She is strikes me as phony and self serving. From the story she wrote about her son, filled with self congratulatory stories and an unearned sense of superiority (meaning her superiority, not his). It’s like This is Her Life and everyone else exists to play a part that she directs. As for Michael, I find him shallow and vacuous. He is so deficient as a father that he doesn’t even have a relationship with his own sons. Some “event” occurred that caused him to leave Canada and his sons only 5 months after arriving. They are not pictured at his remarriage in 2016. He wrote in faceB that he was afraid he may never see them again. But then I’ve seen people who say they are friends of his leaving snide comments on the sons public page talking about “Michael deserves credit too! Not just Kristine”. Meaning credit for Jacobs accomplishments!! These two are pathetic. So, I don’t really know why they adopted her. They should not have. Jacob wasn’t “famous” before they adopted her. He wasn’t written about until March 2011. After that the full on promotion of him as an “autistic genius” was on. Kristine fashioned herself as some sort of autism expert. The college drop out, day care operator. Claimed doctors were coming to HER for advice. A legend in her own mind. All but says she is responsible for his intelligence. She created her own mythology. Safe to say I am not a fan.
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  820. @M Her birthday is in Sept, so she’ll be 17 in a few weeks. It was August 2012 when they put her in the first apt (supervised thru Aspire Indiana). She was 8, almost 9. Then it was July 10, 2013 when they moved her an hour away to LaFayette. She was 9, turning 10 in Sept. No more supervision, no visits, no more home health aid. Kristine and sons departed to Canada July 15 and Michael wrapped up liquidating their home contents and packing and departed Aug 2 (this info taken off Michael’s faceB). By August 15 she was appearing in the Mans’s faceB. The picture of her—undeniably a little girl. She’s wearing a lavender skirt with a white thin knit top/jacket. She’s been with them ever since.
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  821. She’s ALWAYS “played” well. It’s Kristine and Michael who are scamming.
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  822. The court ruled it was past the statute of limitations. So the medical & dental evidence that said she was a child doesn’t matter. But, yes Barnetts were informed by doctors she was a child. They knew
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  823.  @ronlee1894  What is it you think you heard? I have the interview taped, so I do know what was said and can refer back to it
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  824. All what families? The only ones to make accusations against her are the Barnetts. On the other, CPS reports show others were concerned over how the Barnetts treated Her
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  825. It doesn’t make sense because the Barnetts are lying. She was born 2003 exactly as her original birth certificate said. Confirmed by doctors & dentists & birth mom
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  826. X rays don’t lie. Her x rays proved she was a child (now an older teen)
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  827.  @kansasrush3444  Did you see the couple with Dwarfism (DePauls) who had tried to adopt Natalia and showed the photos of her with missing front baby teeth? The DePauls daughter also made a video & showed some of her medical records. The part about the Dr needing a Russian translator was in the records. The channel IO also made a video and referenced the records and the Dr needing a translator. The IO video is still online, titled Big Update On Natalia Barnett You Need To Know. The photo accompanying the video shows the Barnetts and says They Knew. Find that video and go to 1:34
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  828. Yes, I can. They are lying. She didn’t. And if you don’t think they’d lie, I’d ask you Why Not? Why do you think they wouldn’t lie?
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  829.  James Omar  Awe look, Mikey joined youT only a day ago and just happens to stumble on this year old video. Yup. Sure.
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  830. I think the motivation of the Barnetts was to shed their parental obligations without looking like the amoral people that they are. They had no care or concern for their adopted daughter
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  831. Seriously? You actually believe an 18 yr old successfully passed herself off as a kindergartner to her teachers, her first parents, her doctors (4 doctors who also teach at Harvard Medical School), US immigration, her dentists?? Preposterous. Ex rays don’t lie. She was a child.
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  832. That was Fotis Dulos who plagiarized Gone Girl. He off’d himself in Jan 2020, before the trial stated.
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  833. What the difference in head size between a 16 yr old and a 30 yr old? At what age does ones head stop growing?
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  834. Those losers didn’t make so much as a police report after the so-called attempted murders. Because they were making it all up.
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  835. According to Barnetts there’s no way she’s less than 32. But we know they’re liars, so...
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  836. Are you saying at 22 you could have sat in a 3rd grade class and everyone would have believed you were 8? That’s what the parents want us to believe about her. BTW her birthmom’s 41
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  837.  @juliecroak2239  That’s what really floored me. The Barnetts saying she had all her adult teeth, then the one clear photo they provided showed unmistakably that only the top front ones were adult. Most the pics Barnetts gave the media were low resolution, or a closed mouth smile, but that one side-ish profile was very clear and the other teeth baby. People who lie when their own photos contradict are a special category of liars, to me.
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  838.  @sidthekid456  I know her birth certificate was falsified in 2012 by Judge Zore without so much as an evidentiary hearing. You cannot claim that was justice because her birth mother was DNA confirmed and cannot have been married with a 4 yr old giving birth to her second child at age 9. NOT POSSIBLE. At least the FELONY charges for neglecting a disabled dependent are still going forward. And who knows, there’s an appeal filed to the Indiana Supreme Court and they might overturn this nonsense.
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  839. Umm, her birth mom was born in 1980. She was separated & had a 4yr old when Natalia was born. So, not possible Natalia was born in 1989. Clearly a miscarriage of Justice
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  840.  @angiedillman7963  Having her age changed by a judge without a hearing is not a substitute for an actual trial where all sides (Barnetts, Ciccones {1st adopters}, Shepherd Care {adoption agency}) get to present evidence and argue their position. Ukraine does not have a history of passing off adults as 4 year olds, which is the Barnetts position- That she was 18 when she first came here. In fact, there has never been a case of an adult passing themselves off as Elementary school age (high school- yes; elementary school- never). The truth is that this girl was exactly the age her original birth certificate indicated.
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  841. If they thought she was actually an adult they would have filed to void the adoption. Instead they remain her legal parents
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  842. She’s not lying. Her birth mother was found and her documents prove Natalia really was born in 2003. The doctors & dentists already evaluated her as a child. But birth mom shows exact age
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  843.  @missymarie2698  Pretending to do something, which is what Kristine had her do, is NOT evil. It’s not like Kristine made her actually put something in someone’s drink
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  844. A little kid would do whatever they were forced to do. Sounds like Kristine was working hard to get her husband on board. Dude felt guilty enough he confessed to the investigator. Said she was a child and they knew and Kristine told her to say she was an adult.
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  845. The “30 families” is something Kristine used to tell Natalia, to try and make her feel bad. It wasn’t true. In fact, the Barnetts own doctor said it was 2 families in the leaked letter
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  846. @James Omar If ignorance was painful these child abuse enablers would be screaming at the top of their lungs.
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  847.  @annetteyoutube742  It’s called hypodontia when a person is missing permanent teeth. That’s why they retain baby teeth. BUT Natalia doesn’t have this as you can see her adult teeth grew in
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  848.  @ruthtallmer9506 You need your eyes and your head examined
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  849. They lied. She didn’t
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  850. X rays don’t lie. Medical x rays showed open growth plates. Adults don’t have growth plates. Dental x rays showed she was a child. Dr Phil should’ve brought a radiologist on to explain this
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  851. She really is not. The parents were charged after a 5 yr investigation. That’s how long it took to unravel their deceit. She was really a child born 2003. Of course she’s 18 now
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  852. But 10 yrs before this there’s photos of her losing her First baby tooth, which happens around 6yrs of age
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  853. Her age was found out via medical & dental x ray. She was a confirmed child. But now they are getting away with it because of Statute of Limitations & prior court orders
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  854. Not really. It was based on a real person, Barbora Skrlova. She was the daughter of a cult leader and the families she stayed with were also in cult & conspired w/her to fool authorities
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  855. That’s been shown to be lies. Michael admitted it. They knew she was a child & purposefully tried to make her seem crazy
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  856.  @camiosis9024  Natalia wasn’t homeschooled. She went to Washington Woods elementary. Also, there’s no “entrance exam” for LARA. You sure don’t know much about this case
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  857. @camiosis How would YOU know what forms Barnetts were sent?? Lol. You said you don’t know them. Lol.
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  858. @camiosis The judge knows that Barnetts had her birth certificate amended, making her 30 today according to that. But apparently the new judge ain’t CONVINCED, cause he wouldn’t let Natalia give consent for her DNA and he approved the charges against Barnetts that are based upon her being a minor.
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  859. @camiosis A minor cannot consent to DNA testing. Since Barnetts withheld consent, the judge ordered that the testing be done without their consent. Kristine didn’t have her pre trial conference on July 27. As stated on the court website it is scheduled for Dec 18, 2020. Kristine had a motion to dismiss charges 7 & 8 hearing. It is not sealed. The judge hasn’t made a decision yet. Did she walk in with head held high ie Nose in the air? Sounds about right for that snooty defendant. Can’t wait to see how well that attitude goes over in prison.
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  860. @camiosis Hey thanks, you just reiterated MORE evidence that Barnetts are liars. They asked the judge to change her birth year to 1989. Ciccones adopted her in July 2008. If the 1989 birth year was true, that’d mean she was 18 when Ciccones adopted her. But YOU SAID she would age out of Ukrainian system at 16. So the fact she was still in the orphanage in year 2008 PROVES THE 1989 BIRTH YEAR A LIE. Thanks Cami, you’re a big help.
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  861. @camiosis You are such a liar. You have said such degrading things about Natalia. Frankly, you have defamed her because you made statements of fact that were untrue. Statements of fact differ from opinions. Statements of facts are actionable. You better hope you don’t end up on the receiving end of a subpoena yourself, cause you would lose that case.
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  862. @camiosis Barnutts never went to court to allege fraud. That Tells me the only fraud perpetrated was perpetrated by Barnetts. That’s why they are only ones charged with crimes
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  863. @camiosis Lol Crazee Barnutter. Copying and pasting your lies all over YouT. What are you sparking up?
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  864.  @galipselvi3832  There is nothing wrong with adopting older children. Plenty of people do and are very happy they did. N wasn’t the “wrong one”. She was exactly the age they were told. You ask why. All we can do is hypothesize on why. It would not have cost them any money because the IRS was giving away a 13k refundable tax credit to adopters the year they adopted her. They seemed happy w/her until after her 1st surgery and after their son started getting famous. They couldn’t promote their son AND attend to her needs. So they got rid of her in a way that was secret so no one knew and judged them harshly for it, which would have ruined the pending movie and book deal
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  865.  @galipselvi3832  I personally got that information off the dad’s Facebook before he deleted it. The guy was a real blabber mouth. Said he was in therapy for 4 years due to her abusing him and claimed 2 different therapists “confirmed” it. Whatever that means. He is still estranged from them. His sons are 17, 19 & 22 today. It’s a sad fact that some people adopt for selfish reasons. Which is clearly what the Barnetts did.
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  866.  @galipselvi3832  “SEEMED genuinely happy”-Truth is they weren’t happy. 5 months after moving to Canada the dad ditched his sons & wife, returned to IN, accused wife of abusing & controlling him, and has been estranged from his sons ever since. This was one dysfunctional family long before they adopted that sweet little girl, who they nearly destroyed
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  867.  @gloriawelch3603  The Barnetts had her birth year changed from 2003 to 1989. So according to Barnetts she is 32 today. According to her original birth certificate she is 18
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  868. It sounds fishy cause that’s how the parents told the story, attempting to divert attention from their abuse/neglect of her. Their story makes no sense
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  869.  @hollythomason5642  “Logic over feels”—-smart woman
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  870. Ok, but they’re lying. They made that up to get people on their side.
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  871. Can’t hide what you don’t have. Barnetts are liars
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  872. Her BioMom has been located and confirmed via DNA. Her bioDad is deceased. She is the age she said she was (16 at time of taping; born Sept 2003)
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  873. The way Barnetts described the adoption wasn’t accurate. They made it sound like they adopted her in FL. True they did retrieve her from the 1st adoptive parents, the ones who adopted her in Ukraine & brought her here, but the actual legal adoption occurred 6 months later in an Indiana court in the county they lived in. The fact Barnetts left out facts to make it sound Sus, hurts their credibility
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  874. Nailed it!! I see you did a video on the Delphi Murd3rs. The Monon High Bridge is only 19 miles from the LaFayette apt they left her alone at. Anything could have happened to her. They simply didn’t care.
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  875. You think? Well watch their oldest son admit mom was abusing her, he’s in the new documentary on MAX
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  876. The nice family is the one sitting on that stage with her. The Barnetts are cruel and callous. They left behind a child and they knew she was a child.
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  877. It’s not debatable. Her birth mom’s been found and she was the age she claimed
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  878.  @camiosis9024  Reading is fundamental. Counts 1, 3 & 5 dismissed due to Statute of Limitations. Counts 2, 4, 6, 7 & 8 remain. Mikey filed 1/13/22 to dismiss count 7 only 👍
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  879.  @camiosis9024  Your opinion is worthless. You are morally unscrupulous and have no allegiance to the truth.
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  880.  @camiosis9024  😂Still telling the “full body” passport photo story you made up. Hilarious. Pretending Ciccones had anything to do with Barnetts confidential petition to change Natalia’s age
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  881.  @audacity2hope645  Barnetts are the perpetrators, not the “mark”. Lol Sure adoption agencies find prospective parents through countrywide “internet searches”.
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  882.  @camiosis9024  They picked her up and signed paperwork in May 2010. They had to wait the required 6 months, then they finalized the adoption in a Hamilton Co courtroom Nov 2010
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  883. Pinocchiosis Ukraine does not write dates 9/4/3 on official birth certificates. Clearly another Barnett fabrication
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  884.  @camiosis9024  Yes, the one they gave Barnetts that said her date of birth was Sept 4, 2003.
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  885. @James Omar They traveled back to Indiana, waited the required SIX MONTHS then finalized it!! (And collected their $13,000 tax refund). The photos tell the truth, Barnetts have not
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  886. @James Omar They know they’ve lost over her genuine age. They ignored the substantial medical and dental evidence and It was easy to claim “faked documents” before Natalia’s birth mother was DNA confirmed. Now they’re trying to convince people that the Barnetts did the right thing by ejecting her from their home regardless of her age because they say she was a violent would-be murderer. It’s all so pathetic.
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  887. @James Omar She’s still so dedicated to defaming a girl who was an innocent victim. Utterly vile person. Not fooling anyone who has followed this case.
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  888. 10 years before this interview she was losing her first baby tooth. That’s something that happens between ages 5-7, Not in your 20’s
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  889.  @Will324  I do. I care about children abused by the ones who are supposed to love them. I care about constitutional rights & care when someone is deprived thereof
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  890.  @Will324  In all the pics of her holding something, like a fork or pencil, you see she holds with her thumb to her ring finger while pointer & middle finger don’t bend. On Dr Phil you can also see those first two fingers don’t bend in how she took & held the Kleenex.
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  891. She could barely hold a crayon, so a knife is completely implausible. Besides that, Where’s the proof of their claims? They didn’t call police, or call the agency or the 1st parents.
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  892. Another account, eh? You sure are transparent
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  893. But she isn’t older. Her birth mother was located and DNA confirmed. She has her original birth records. Natalia was born Sept 2003
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  894.  @ellieem4716  Yea he told that story to set up his “We don’t think she’s even from Ukraine” story, despite the fact they had in their possession the Ciccones adoption decree, in which the Ciccones traveled to Ukraine and adopted her there before bringing her back to the US. It’s just one lie after another with the Barnetts
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  895. Her birth mother was found and is only 42. Natalia also has a bio sibling 4 yrs older than her. Natalia’s orig birth certificate says she’s 18 now. The Barnett birth certificate says 32.
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  896. She wasn’t lying
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  897.  @yellowdayz1800  What’s the date of that court “appearance”? I’ll wait...
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  898. You sure are delusional. She isn’t on trial😂 The Barnetts got lucky, like the p 3do whose case set precedent and they relied upon, to successfully claim their crime was past the statute of limitations. That’s why 3 out of 8 counts were dismissed. Then since the “legal” age change wasn’t itself overturned previously, the court had to rule that legally she was an adult and the state was barred from arguing she was a real child. But those losers are still on the hook for Felony neglect of a dependent. And the case drags on.
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  899. When she came here in July 2008 she didn’t speak English. She lost her accent, 1st lang, cause she was 4. That’s expected
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  900.  @camiosis9024  It’s clear that the only sociopaths are the parents who abandoned their disabled child and their supporters. Tippecanoe Co prosecutor knows, now the rest of us do too
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  901.  @smilebigiloveyou Trolling. The girl was a child and these losers gamed the system
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  902. She entered 2nd grade when they got her. Do you really think her teacher, with all her experience with 2nd graders, somehow couldn’t tell IF Natalia was 20 like Barnetts claim?
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  903. Michael confessed. He admitted the doctors told them she was a child. He revealed that Kristine was coaching her to lie about her age.
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  904. Well, doctors DID give her ex rays and analyzed her growth plates. Very solid science proving she was a child. Read for yourself https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  905. Indiana Court System is prosecuting the Barnetts, not Natalia. They know they have 2 cruel lying child abusers on their hands. Utterly Despicable Barnetts
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  906.  @camiosis9024  The judge will know exactly the kind of degenerates the Barnetts are. And he will have it all in his mind if the jury convicts them when it comes time to sentence them
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  907.  @camiosis9024  Family practice doctor McLaren has flipped. Obviously after seeing her actual medical & dental records. Can’t wait for him to reveal all the lies Barnetts told him. 🎉🎉🍿🍿
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  908.  @camiosis9024  They had one, now they have none. No doctors support the Barnetts.
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  909.  @camiosis9024  Guess you haven’t seen the latest about Dr McLaren 😂 Confirms what I heard from an office staff member 2 years ago. The rest you wrote are your typical lies🤥
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  910.  @camiosis9024  From recent filing it looks like what I heard almost 2 yrs ago it true- Dr McLaren is NOT on the Barnetts side!! Hallelujah he’s seen the light. Can’t wait to hear him blast Barnetts
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  911.  @cloudyxsxies583  They definitely lied about everything. They are total degenerates to do this to a child, a disabled child no less.
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  912. The State argued that there were exceptions to the Statute of Limitations. The Court of Appeals ruled the state did not have sufficient facts to justify an exception NOT that there wasn’t sufficient facts to prove she was a minor child. But that’s the lie the Barnetts supporter keeps trying to sell. Over and over those liars keep trying to make people think that the courts looks at the evidence she was a child and decided against that. Total Lies. The only facts the COA and Superior Court looked at (at this PRETRIAL stage) was whether there was an exception to the statute of limitations and whether Res Judicata precluded the state from PRESENTING the evidence she was a child. So, yup, the courts decided the 2012 age change order meant she was a legal adult during the charged periods. But there is a request for the Indiana Supreme Court to overturn the COA. So it’s still to be determined. Either was they are STILL facing THREE FELONY counts of neglect r/t disability. What utter degenerates the Barnetts are.
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  913. Jason Anderson Most girls get their period 2-2.5 years after their breasts develop. The photos prove her chest had no development. Another fact that shows Barnetts are lying
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  914. And this story was supposed to prove she was an adult?! Lol.
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  915. @Camiosis Natalia hasn’t been adjudicated in THE BARNETTS TRIAL. lol. THEY are the ones being adjudicated. You sure live up to your reputation Pinocchio 🤥
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  916. @camiosis Wow Pinocchio. N had a no contact order since way back then? No wonder Barnutts never mentioned that. It means there was credible evidence of abuse against Natalia and the judge though she needed protecting from her abusive adoptive parents. Wow. And you say she had a GAL when Barnutts flew the coup to Canada? Wow. That pretty much proves she was a dependent and couldn’t manage adulting. No wonder Barnutts never revealed that. How did you find out?? I looked and it wasn’t on the court website with all everyone else’s stay away orders. Also, you forgot that Michael was getting her SSI checks as her Representative Payee until After he moved to Canada. So obviously the Social Security Administration determined that she wasn’t able to adult & handle living like an adult. Wow. No wonder Mike didn’t mention that! Pretty much proves she was a dependent. Although Kristine DID reveal that he was getting her checks as Rep Payee, Mike didn’t. Bye bye Barnutts.
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  917. She was a child. A bonafide child confirmed by skeletal and dental x rays. The Barnetts are just bad people.
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  918. Shania Wilkinson Yes. She is not an adult. When she was 1st adopted by Ciccones in 2008, she was 4. There is no way she was 16/18/20 yrs old passing for 4. Fooling US customs and immigration. Fooling the doctors at Boston children’s Hospital. Not a single person questioned her age, until and except for Barnetts. I think after son Jacob got famous and Kristine was flying all over the world with him that she didn’t want to be tied down while Natalia had the 15+ surgeries she needed and they agreed to. Kristine wanted out, while still maintaining her Mother Superior persona. She is sick. And Michael is too. His own sons have shunned him for years. He wrote about it on faceB. To this day the 2 oldest are in Canada whole Kristine is far away in FL. Their whole life is a sham.
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  919. 💕Justice For Natalia Grace💕
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  920. @James Omar I really am laughing hard at this! He is so pathetic.
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  921. @James Omar Lol
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  922. Matt Dawson No it hasn’t. Barnetts trials still on for summer.
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  923. She didn’t destroy anyone. They’re responsible for their own terrible actions and the law finally caught up with them.
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  924. If the Barnetts were telling the truth she would be the one in hot water.
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  925. You believe that Karen? Seriously? Claiming her kid was a secret adult so that they could “legally” ditch her? Talk about privilege.
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  926. You misunderstood. She was 16 on Dr Phil, filmed in Oct 2019. She was 6 when the Barnetts adopted her in May 2010. (She was born Sept 2003)
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  927. The movie was released before they even met her. The Barnetts are using the movie as a ready-made defense against the crimes they committed against her
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  928. Just like Orphan? Yes. Pure fiction just like the movie. If their story was true then she’d have been arrested, not them. Her new family doesn’t need luck w/truth on their side for 8 yrs now. 8 years
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  929. She didn’t pretend. She was a genuine child of 6 when they adopted her in 2010. The Barnetts scammed the courts but now they’re busted. There’s your answer
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  930. Look at Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos. She had Kissinger and Clintons buying her story. But it all finally came crashing down. Just like what Barnetts are experiencing now.
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  931. I think Kristine overestimated her ability to gaslight people. She’s been lying her whole life and getting away with it. Look at that nonsense she pedaled in her book, that people swallowed.
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  932.  James Omar  Their PR firm must have advised against it. These sick fux. It’s just like Orphan, alright—Pure Fiction.
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  933. There isn’t a chance in the world that she was an adult instead of a little child. Zero chance. She had baby teeth and open growth plates.
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  934. They “paid” the rent with HER money. Michael was the beneficiary payee of her SSI. Which means HE received HER money. He was required by law to spend it on her. Nothing generous about that
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  935.  @giulianamirra  No, judges aren’t above doctors when it comes to medical knowledge and certainty. That’s why judges allow expert witnesses to explain areas outside of general knowledge.
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  936. The surgeon doctor said it best “She was 6 when I treated her” “X rays don’t lie”. There’s nothing else that matters
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  937. Impossible. Her birth mom was located and confirmed by DNA. Birth mom is 42 now. Original hospital records show Natalia really was born in 2003
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  938. Ready To Glare followed up with an exclusive from the DePauls. She changed her opinion. Without A Chrystal Ball was skeptical of Barnetts from start, so was Repzilla
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  939. Actually it wasn’t a lie. She really was 6. Skeletal & dental x rays said so. They knew she was a child. Barnetts are the liars
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  940. She originally did speak Russian. It’s in her medical records the doctor had to utilize a translator. It’s well established in adoption literature that young adoptees lose 1sr Lang within 6 months
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  941. Yea, but when your defense is ripped straight from a movie script, you might be lying. This all sounds like a Munchausen by Proxy mom telling stories
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  942. He was wrong. She wasn’t with 30 families. She wasn’t in foster care. She was adopted by only 1 family prior to Barnetts. She spent some weekends with “almost” adopters DePauls
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  943. You got it all wrong Joe. The Barnetts are the scumbags here. Treated a little girl like trash and tossed her to the wolves. Then when caught instead of owning up to the facts, they hire a PR firm and go on a character assassination tour. The truth is her doctors, and I’m talking specialists, took ex rays and she was a child. You cannot fake or mistake growth plates. Kids have them, adults don’t. Irrefutable. Her teeth? 2 dentists said 8-9, then 6-9. Now even her dang birth mom’s been found and has the hospital birth records. BTW She was 6 when they got her in 2010. That’s why she was 16 on Dr Phil. She’s 17 today.
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  944. @James Omar I think they say it intending it as some kind of Gotcha. Hilarious.
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  945.  @s.o.o4800  You said “I don’t care if you stop” after Telling me To Stop. Lol. Contradictory.
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  946.  @s.o.o4800  An hour ago you said “Stop being in every comment”. Geez, at least be consistent
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  947.  @s.o.o4800  I’ve shared actual verifiable facts with people. The ones who care about truth have changed their position to supporting the victim. Then there are the bullies. The kind of people who drive teens to self harm. You are free to choose. I can’t stop you. Nor can you stop me from defending this girl and I can’t for the life of me understand why you would want me to stop.
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  948.  @s.o.o4800  Is the law preventing people like you from bullying & defaming Natalia? No, it’s not. So I’m going to keep on telling the truth & defending this innocent girl. You should be ashamed
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  949. @S.O.O The Barnetts DID adopt from America. They even met the parents (Gary & Dyan Ciccone) that they were adopting from and were provided a copy of the Ciccones adoption decree from Ukraine. Ciccones went to Ukraine, not Barnetts
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  950. Not a single man can forward claiming that. You know why? Because it didn’t happen. Further, she didn’t call 911 on her own, Mommie Dearest Kristine was there & made her call. That ought to convince you right there she was a child because an adult certainly wouldn’t call the police on themselves. How’s a kid gonna stalk without a computer, a car or the ability to walk more than 10 min without a rest.
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  951. Personally I don’t find Kristine or Michael Barnett very convincing. They copied a movie, for cryin out loud. People have to be very young or very dumb to buy their story.
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  952. They scammed this kid out of her childhood AND her future. They are really bad people who belong in jail.
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  953. You say they wouldn’t have done this to an 8 yr old, Why not? Heck, a few years back adoptive parents drove off a cliff kill ing all 6 of their adopted kids. Adoptive parents can be bad, just like birth parents
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  954.  @Ftmyersbeachlizard  That information comes from the probable cause affidavit. In case you’re wondering. You can read it on court website. Case no 20A-CR-01968 at mycase dot in dot gov (I wrote out the link because I don’t remember if this channel allows links; dot- meaning a period)
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  955. The Barnetts ditching her had happened 7 years earlier. For the last 6yrs (8yrs as of now) she has been loved unconditionally. Creepy as Barnetts are she’s likely grateful she got away
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  956. I’m no fan of Phil either, but he did get this right. He didn’t show it but there are multiple doctor & dentist exams & x rays which proved she was a child. You can’t lie & change the results of x rays.
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  957.  @yesimagirl.9016  Some people have a hard time accepting reality
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  958.  @lupefeliciano9985  It’s a miracle her birth mother is still alive in Ukraine and located, cooperated & DNA confirmed. She has proof her birth daughter is only 17 https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  959. That’s the story they tell. They’re arrested and trying to garner sympathy like criminals are known to do. They didn’t mention the 6mos waiting period before it became legally binding
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  960. Steal her from the family that loves her? That she’s lived with for over 8 years now? That makes no sense. But hey, the Barnetts are single, go marry one of them if you think they’re so great
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  961. @CoachRed Adult teeth? Nope. DePaul family has come forward with pictures that show baby teeth. She lost her 1st front tooth while with them. Prosecution has her real records
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  962. Those Barnetts are some sickos, for sure.
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  963. Those parents lied about her to distract from the despicable things THEY did to her. She was a real child
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  964. The arrested parents, Barnetts, are liars. She was 6 when they got her, almost 9 when they kicked her out of the fam, and she was 3 weeks shy of turning 10 when Mans took her in. She’s STILL there
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  965. Have you ever seen such knee jerk support for accused child abusers before?? I haven’t. It’s crazy. I mean, the Barnetts story isn’t even plausible, let alone that the evidence supports Natalia
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  966. Of course she doesn’t. She’s not a little kid anymore, she’s 16 (on Dr Phil, filmed Oct 2019). She had a baby face back then, baby teeth too
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  967. Her birthdate is Sept 2003. She was brought here July 2008, she was 4. Barnetts adopted her May 2010, she was 6. Dr Phil was Oct 2019, she was 16. Barnetts are bad people
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  968. What money? There’s a criminal case against the Barnetts. Maybe there’ll be a lawsuit later as there should be. Those degenerates dumped a child. But since you support child abuse, you’ll be happy to know that the statute of Limitations expired for the child neglect. So instead of 8 felonies they are only being prosecuted for 2 concerning neglect of a disabled dependent
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  969. You know the pictures show baby teeth, so they lied
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  970.  @dannass555  Love Family Guy, didn’t recognize the reference lol. But, yea, I just can’t stand the way those Barnetts hurt that vulnerable girl
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  971.  @miliaelainejones2421  They’re liars and were pretty successful with their lies. Just like Gypsy Rose’s mom was successful with her lies. Doesn’t change reality tho. X rays don’t lie. She was a child
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  972. Apparently they really didn’t want a little girl. Because a little 6 yr old girl is exactly what they had and they threw her away like garbage as soon as their bio son got famous. She was in the way.
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  973. Stay Gold
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  974. @cazprescott9 Why didn’t Barnetts sue the adoption agency back in 2012? Why didn’t Barnetts legally void the adoption, if they can prove fraud? Natalia isn’t suing anyone. State is prosecuting.
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  975.  @camiosis9024  You fail to mention counts 2, 4 & 6, in addition to 7 & 8. Mikey already filed his motion to dismiss count 7. If successful that leaves 2, 4, 6 & 8. I wonder what Jennifer is going to say now that they are divorced and marital privilege dissolved
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  976.  @camiosis9024  Barnutts are still facing 5 FELONY counts for neglect of a dependent. Those charges were not dismissed. Their legal fees gotta be up to 100k by now. Lololol (Edit/ Its 5 open charges currently)
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  977. At first I thought you meant her dad i the stage with her, but now I realize you meant Michael Barnett. Yea, Mike looked strange af in his interviews. Like he was telling a made up story
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  978. I doubt he was thrilled to be on National television, unlike Barnetts who live for attention. He loves that little girl and has been trying to get justice for her since 2013
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  979. Don’t feel bad for them. They’re liars. They almost destroyed that kid’s life, and certainly harmed her future with their fraudulent age change
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  980.  Trevor B. Perez  Every word out of cam’s mouth is a lie, including “and” and “the”.
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  981. Forknife clips Yt The prosecutor IS a lawyer. And he’s prosecuting the Barnetts. Because they abandoned a minor child.
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  982.  @praxym9293  They didn’t “overlook” it, she didn’t have it. They are lying. The mom DePaul who was giving her baths only 4 months earlier said so. She said no development. That’s proof they’re lying
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  983. Yea, sure, let’s consult a Fictional movie. 😂
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  984.  @breakfastattiffanys741  You obviously haven’t seen photos of her at age 6 because she had baby teeth and zero breast development. She was clearly a pre pubescent child
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  985. The 40yr old Ukrainian bioMom was confirmed by DNA. lol Remember how Barnutts were making it sound like she wasn’t even from Ukraine?? Remember that??!? Lol
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  986. She’s a survivor alright
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  987. @David Stirm Some of the things you think are facts are not actually facts. According to a court document that Kristine Barnett leaked (which is publicly available online): 1) Natalia’s DOB was Sept 4 2003. 2) Ciccones adopted her in Ukraine July 9 2008 [So she was 4] 3) Barnetts adoption was finalized in Indiana Nov 2, 2010. /\From Michael’s appearances on Dr Oz we learned that A) They were contacted by the adoption agency on April 23, 2010 B) they had 24 hrs to say yes or no to adopting her or else “she would be put into foster care” [This shows that she WAS NOT already in foster care and had lived with the first family just under 2 years] C) They left soon after to meet her and take her into their home [This shows they had the standard 6 month wait before the adoption became final in November. In other words, they could have easily changed their minds before Nov] D) He said Ciccones were in the next room AND said it was strange Natalia was happy and called them Mommy & Daddy because “she had only been given up FIVE minutes earlier” [Again, more proof she was never in foster care]. /\ This adds up to Natalia was NOT in 30 different homes. That claim seems designed to take attention away from THEIR BEHAVIOR and to try to put the focus on Natalia’s behavior.
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  988.  @dionnegrant5395  I’m of the opinion they weren’t lied to. I think they are lying. But they aren’t in jail & they succeeded in getting half the charges dismissed. Trial are later this yr
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  989.  @dionnegrant5395  Sorry I was wasn’t clear. I’m not saying you discriminated, I’m saying her birth mother discriminated against her. Her birth mother was found and interviewed and said she put her into the orphanage after giving birth to her because of her “complex pathologies”.
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  990. She was placed into the orphanage the day after she was born. Discriminated against because of her dwarfism. Your theory isn’t based upon facts
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  991. @camiosis Barnetts need to be paying child support, all the way back to 2013. Hopefully that will be ordered as restitution.
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  992. For as long as there’s been adoption, there’s been crappy adoptive parents who had no business adopting a child. Ever hear of the Stauffers? They adopted a little boy from China then later re-homed him like a dog. Ever hear of the Harts? Adopted SIX Children only to later drive off a cliff with all the kids in the car. So please spare me the bias that says adoptive parents are superior because they adopted. The Barnetts abandoned a child.
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  993. Dr Phil did NOT show a single picture of her at 6, 7 or 8. All the pictures shown were taken by the new parents and she was 14/15 in most of them. This is how disreputable editing is misleading
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  994. You can’t fake x rays. How did she manage to have open growth plates when adults don’t have growth plates? How did she have baby teeth & lose them right on schedule & adult ones grew in?
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  995.  @potatochip751  Orphan was inspired by Barbora Skrlova. But she did not trick unsuspecting families into adopting her. They were in Barbora’s father’s cult (offshoot of Grail Movement)
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  996. The movie, a work of fiction, did not “come true”. The parents fashioned their accusations after the movie.
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  997. Except she didn’t live in 30 homes. She only had 1 family before Barnetts. And only 1 family after—The Mans. She’s been with them for almost 8 years now. A clear indication Barnetts are liars
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  998. She came over at age 4. She shouldn’t have an accent! Native tongue? Cause she’s only lived w/English speakers, but at first Drs needed translator, it’s in her records. Had a period? No, that’s a lie
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  999. The Barnetts are lying. She wasn’t anywhere close to puberty. Don’t be so gullible. The records also indicate she was never with 30 families. That was just Kristine lying to her & telling her that
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  1000.  @homoerotic85  Ex rays don’t lie, Eric. She had a full skeletal survey in 2012. She had growth plates. Adults don’t have growth plates. The Barnetts concealed the records. They are really bad people
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  1001. Your comment is one of the most despicable I’ve seen. Truly abhorrent
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  1002. Why would Indiana parents Diana & Timothy Combs foster 4 kids and adopt 1 who’s disabled then force her to eat a dirty diaper and abuse them all? Or Indiana mom Ariel Robinson who’s arrested & accused of homicide of her adopted daughter? Why would these parents adopt only to hurt the ones they promised to love?? You think adoptive parents are above being abusive, think again
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  1003. Adult teeth? That’s not what the old pics show. Obviously the Barnetts lied
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  1004.  @majesticmajesty8004  And why are they acting like this is some Alcatraz or SingSing style fence? For Pete’s sake, every kid in the country has felt the Zzing of the farmer fence. No one’s died
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  1005. Yup, no way could that tiny unbalanced lil girl could even budge a big ‘ole corn fed gal like Kristine
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  1006. He’s been her dad for 8 yrs now and is her biggest advocate.
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  1007.  @camiosis9024  Kristine said she had all adult teeth. And her own photos showed that was a lie. Kristine also claimed she had a period. That too was a lie. Kristine is one big liar. Funny how some of you autism moms think she’s some kind of autism expert. I guess you didn’t know her son was declared to NOT be autistic when Kristy took him for an evaluation when he was 10. It was on her own website and it still visible with archive’s wayback machine. What a fraud she is.
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  1008.  @camiosis9024  I still laugh at your inability to read. My comment isn’t edited. Barnetts own pictures prove they lied. Apparently you haven’t read the dental evidence either. Both dentists Kristy took her to said she was a child (estimated 8-9, and again 6-9). You continue to defend an abuser just because you think she helped your son. Maybe you’d care if Natalia had autism instead of dwarfism. Strange.
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  1009. No, sadly the child abusers are not in jail and may even get away with it unless the court of appeals puts the smack down
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  1010. 💙❤️💜💛💚Natalia
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  1011.  @DancingSk3L3tons  They did adopt a 6 yr old, in 2010. She’s a teen now because 11 years have passed
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  1012.  @DancingSk3L3tons  The birth moms documents match the ones Barnetts were given. Born 2003. Making her 6 when they adopted her. Exactly as they were told. All this bs now is an elaborate lie to avoid responsibility
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  1013.  @DancingSk3L3tons  Actually it was. The DNA results were revealed in open court and also were reported on. She’s her birth mom.
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  1014. Except her DNA confirmed birth mother is only 40 and N was her 2nd child. Bmom has the original documents proving N was telling the truth and Barnetts were lying.
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  1015. It’s the Barnetts who’ve been outed for abandoning their adopted daughter when she was only 9 yrs old. The chickens have finally come home to roost.
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  1016. She’s been with the “new” family for over 8 years now. Maybe you should start looking at the Barnetts with some skepticism
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  1017. For what? The baseless accusations from the criminal defendants? Don’t be so gullible.
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  1018. Because she really was a young child when she was brought here by her new parents in 2008. If she was an adult, like the Barnetts claim, she’d still have an accent
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  1019. According to court records they were being investigated for abuse/neglect of her. By changing her age they got out of it since CPS only has jurisdiction over children and the age change made her an adult. Kristine was writing a book about what stellar parents they were. A CPS substantiation would have tanked the book deal. Maybe even forced them to repay the money they received for the movie rights. So their motivation was fortune and fame.
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  1020. Naw, the Barnetts are the cons. Her dr records prove it. Her dental records prove it. And now her DNA confirmed 41 yr old Ukrainian birth mother proves it.
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  1021. That’s not true. Why are you spreading misinformation? Have your own opinion, but don’t make sht up
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  1022. @Jesus-is-mine I hoping that the recently discovered “age” evidence actually makes it to trial. That is what the prosecution is asking on appeal —-Let the jury decide how old she is after hearing ALL the evidence. The judge has ruled that the new evidence does not matter and the jury cannot hear it (about bio mom, the records she has, other Drs reports, dentists reports). The reason the judge says none of that evidence can be heard is because the 2012 birth year change made her an adult and that ruling was not appealed, thus that 2012 ruling is Law. The judge says the law prevents a new hearing on her age within this criminal proceeding, due to Res Judicata and Collateral Estoppel. So that’s where it’s at—Will the jury get to determine her age? The Barnutters are acting as if this judge looked at the evidence of BioMom etc and didn’t believe the evidence. THAT is an incorrect interpretation. What the judge really did is say It Doesn’t Matter it’s Too Late
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  1023. @Jesus-is-mine It’s not all that unusual for an overseas adopted child to gain weight and height rapidly once they arrive in the US and are properly fed and cared for. And if they were abandoned without documentation their birth certificate may be a little inaccurate. Now that’s they’ve caught up the parents and doctors realize that maybe the child is a year or two older than originally thought. But I’ve never read about an adopted parent being FRIGHTENED because of that. Sorry, that sounds weird that you’d be frightened. She very likely was abused pre adoption. But sometimes adoptive parents are the abusers too. Adopted kids are disproportionately abused compared to children living with their biological parents. I think Barnetts were the ones behaving badly
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  1024. They blur them to conceal that she was undeniably a child. Create controversy for views. You can see them all unblurred on the blog Justice For Natalia Grace
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  1025.  @camiosis9024  Different kinds? Yes, and she had the correct one. Proven. Witnessed by the court? Absurd, courts do not witness ANY DNA Tests. As usual, you don’t know what ur talking about
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  1026. Yes Mighty inconvenient for all y’all bashing the girl, that her birth mom was found & DNA confirmed & isn’t old enough to have a 32 yr old child. Keep on believing a Hollywood movie came true.
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  1027. You desperately need your eyes examined.
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  1028. @Ekin Satır Ok, thanks for clearing that up. As for “attempting”, that’s just nonsense. This is simply an attempt on their part to justify their crimes. Kristine is the ultimate Karen
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  1029. What for? It’s obvious the Barnetts are liars. Mike Barnetts even admitted she was a child when they left her and coached her to say she was older. That’s in the police affidavit.
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  1030.  @thetraveler1182  That photo at 3:00 is NOT a Barnett photo. That is her with the Mans family circa 2018/19. Of course she has adult teeth there, she’s about 14-15. Teeth charts indicate most people lose last baby tooth by age 12. Now look at 2:32 in that video. That Barnett photo is from May 2010. As you can see her 2 front teeth are adult but the rest are all baby teeth. Call me Natalia all you want. It just makes you look foolish.
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  1031.  @thetraveler1182  You really don’t know what your talking about. No one else has accused her of anything. You can’t name a single interview where someone besides Barnetts said anything bad about her
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  1032.  @thetraveler1182  No, I don’t “sense” the old in her. 0) Ciccones traveled to Ukraine & adopted her. How could she plan this? 1) First adopted age 4, spoke Russian, Dr Harris noted in med chart he used a translator. Common knowledge that intl. adopted young children generally lose 1st Lang within 6 month. It’s expected she’d sound like a Native English speaker. No accent is evidence she was very young when she came here. 2) Looked like a young child. See the DePaul photos of her missing her front teeth & adult teeth growing in. Barnetts claimed she had all adult teeth. The Barnetts photos show 2 adult front teeth, rest being baby teeth. Typical for 6 yr olds. Her condition is very rare, but not “only a handful” rare. In fact, Mrs DePaul has same exact disorder. 3) Only adopted once before Barnetts. The Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones (this is Barnetts own words in court documents). The DePauls tried to adopt her from Ciccones but were denied. They HAVE spoken out, in her defense. There were no “30 families”. Dr Phil misspoke after Natalia told him the “Kristine told her” she’d had 30 prior families. Records prove this unequivocally false. Natalia was genuinely a child.
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  1033.  @thetraveler1182  A 16 yr old, yes. I have daughters of similar age. She talks and sounds the same, too.
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  1034. You better recalibrate your internal lie detector, you’re as wrong as wrong can be
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  1035. This was a 5 year investigation. That’s how long it took to get the evidence needed. She was an actual child and was seriously harmed by her adoptive parents. It’s time for Justice For Natalia Grace
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  1036. It was a lie. Very easy to lie.
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  1037. @James Omar I’m not sure. But in some of the interviews he was super wide eyed and animated. Like he was under the influence of something. Just did not come across “normal”
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  1038. Agree. His words were telling, the story preposterous, and his facial expressions with overly dramatic wide eyes and conspiring looks is simply not credible at all. He looked under the influence
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  1039.  @theropesofrenovation9352  The Barnetts were reported twice before they even changed her age. Likely by her elementary school who were aware she needed surgery & wasn’t getting it
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  1040. She didn’t do well on her own at all. There were numerous reports to CPS about how poorly she was doing. CPS waited too long to file in court to remove her. Her age was already changed so CPS didn’t have jurisdiction
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  1041. Due to legal technicalities the State is barred from arguing she was a minor. Absurd, but that was the ruling, based in part on precedent from a case of a p Edo (Umfleet) who got off on technicalities
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  1042. Julie Tree Lover Really? Why? Cause Ciccones told DePauls it was due to some significant loss in their lives. They couldn’t care for a high needs child. Not because of anything N did.
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  1043.  @ususa8052  I don’t think the Barnetts are telling the truth. They claimed that bone testing showed she was an adult and that is not true. They claimed she had all adult teeth. Not true either
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  1044. Cannot determine age exactly but can get within range of 2-3 yrs for children. She had skeletal x rays & dental x rays back then. They ALL said she was a child. Skeletal x rays, growth plates, estimated 11 in 2012 (birth certificate said 8). Dental x rays in 2012 estimated 6-9 (birth certificate said 8). This was all in probable cause affidavit which in online
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  1045.  @X-AEA-12  Definitely agree with what you said
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  1046. You didn’t think this through very well. If she was trying to fool people she would be talking like that. Instead she sounds intelligent & mature, just like my own did at 16
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  1047. Her actual birth mother in Ukraine was located and confirmed by DNA. Her birth mom is 41. There’s no way in hell this kid is even a day older than her birth certificate said. Her docs are proven legit
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  1048. @baby cow Look it up in Journal and Courier (I’ve reached my limit of free views). Tons happening. Jury may not get to hear Bio moms proof. Judge wants to dismiss the age/neglect & only allow the disability/neglect. All on hold until Court of Appeals decides if Jury gets to decide age or if the 2012 age change order stands.
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  1049. The agency was Shepherd Care, in business since 1980, oldest agency in FL, definitely NOT in a strip mall. Google it. They also didn’t mention the adoption wasn’t binding/final until they went before an Indiana judge SIX months later. Yup, they Finalized 6 months AFTER they were supposedly stunned seeing her in the bathtub.
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  1050. She was born with a birth certificate. In a hospital. She has a birth mother who’s been located, DNA tested, and has proof her bio daughter was born in 2003. Barnetts abandoned a real child
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  1051. jsaiyen211 They didn’t put their azz on the line until AFTER they got her age changed. After that they felt invincible and home free. Possible motives—1) Cover up abuse in their home. Child abusers routinely attempt to discredit their victim so that if the victim ever tells they are not believed. 2) Couldn’t take her to Canada where son had been accepted into prestigious university. Leaving her behind would ruin their reputation. FYI Canada wasn’t admitting the disabled back then. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/after-40-years-federal-government-ending-barriers-to-disabled-immigrants-1.3887123 3) Didn’t want to devote themselves to caring for her after her surgeries. Jacob wasn’t famous when they first adopted her. Once he was first written about in March 2011, the story took off and Kristine was flying all over the world with him. You can’t take a disabled child who needs surgeries. She became expendable. By making her 22 they hoped it would nullify her citizenship and get her deported. Problem solved. Super mom reputation intact. 4) I don’t know why Jeffrey Dahmer murdered and cannibalized either, but he did. I think Barnetts are malignant people devoid of empathy who thought they could do whatever they wanted to a vulnerable little girl. There is a reason that prosecutors do not have to prove motive. They only have to prove they committed the crime.
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  1052. @Erica Brough They’re lying Erica. Something criminal defendants are known to do. Read the sworn affidavit https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1053. @Wes Watters Journal and Courier, reporter Ron Wilkins, just published this game changing news yesterday. Google it. There’s been huge things happening in the case.
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  1054. @camiosis You can stop lying now. Give it up. It ain’t gonna help. DNA confirmed the bio mom. Her Hospital records prove she gave birth to Natalia Sept 2003. Bye bye Barnutts
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  1055. @James Omar Get this: Even tho Barnetts lived in Hamilton Co,, the age change came out of Marion Co which is the county the attorney’s office is in. The age changing judge and that attorney appear thick-as-thieves IMO
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  1056. @James Omar Bottom Line-He deserves to be sued and have to answer to the medical board. He was mentioned in their original motion to change her age, that his opinion was that she was 22. It’s shocking and, like you think, there has got to be more to this. Then there’s the lawyer who assisted them. She deserves to answer to the attorney grievance committee, at the very least!. But she is Super well connected and very wealthy. Very. With a couple of internationally adopted kids herself. It’s all so inexplicable to me.
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  1057. @camiosis Dr Andrew McLaren is NOT a pediatrician. Can’t you get ANYTHING right?!? For crying out loud, his letter starts out “I am Michael Barnett’s primary care doctor”
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  1058. @camiosis You must be a real moron if you think, or if you’re just trying to convince others, that this case has ANYTHING to do with Natalia getting her records. A real moron.
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  1059. @camiosis No, she didn’t “confess” to being older. That’s just another Lie. #Proof is that Barnetts did NOT claim that in their Leaked emergency motion to change her age in 2012.
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  1060. @Do Action He confessed she was really a child and they knew it when they moved without her. It’s in the Probable Cause affidavit.
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  1061. @camiosis You are Looney Tunes. I think you might actually believe your own lies. Seriously, get help.
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  1062. camiosis How could you know Ciccones hired a detective? They have made NO statements. Barnetts made no such claims. So clearly you are lying. For what reason? To bolster the far fetched claims of people You admit/believe are guilty as charged. You say Natalia was 14/15 when abandoned. That is a crime. You believe they are criminals. Yet still disparage Natalia day after day, for months now. You also believe Barnetts committed fraud by having her age changed to 22 because you yourself believe she was 14/15. But you apparently are cool with that. And still you make up lies about Natalia and disparage her. You Barnutters sure are a weird lot.
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  1063. @Meet the Braithwaite I see it too
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  1064. What they did to her was really evil. So they’re trying to make it seem like her fault instead of theirs. Why people choose to do evil is a question the greatest minds have tried to answer forever
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  1065.  @thetraveler1182  You say “Everybody isn’t lying” as if there’s numerous professionals saying she was an adult. There wasn’t. There isn’t. Also, I don’t think you understand the medical evidence or her disorder. It doesn’t keep her from developing, it primarily effects her long bones, stunts their length and effects all the joints in her body and other areas with cartilage. Drs.can still estimate her age from her growth plates.
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  1066. Dr Phil misspoke. She wasn’t in 30 homes. But a family that wanted to adopt her, spent a lot of time w/her but were denied, spoke out. They said she was a sweet girl
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  1067. Yes. Kristine took her to EZ Dental & asked the dentist to estimate her age in 2011. They took x rays & said she was btwn 8-9. In 2012 again, diff dentist said 6-9. The parents are lying scum
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  1068. Actually she had not gone through puberty. The earlier family, DePauls, confirm that, and the early photos confirm that as well
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  1069. There weren’t 30 families. If you watched the show, this falsehood originated from Kristine telling Natalia that when she lived with them. She was only adopted by 1 other family prior to Barnetts
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  1070. What she was 1st adopted, by people who went to Ukraine to get her, she was 4 according to her birth certificate. According to Barnetts she was really 18. She had many Drs, many X-rays, went to kindergarten & 1st grade, all before Barnetts. Common sense dictates IF she’d been an adult it would have been discovered LONG before Barnetts.
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  1071. Neutrality aids the oppressor, never the oppressed.
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  1072. This shows you what money can buy. Michael Barnett hired a PR Firm from the get go. They’re behind the spread of the misinformation. Anyone who’s thought about it recognizes Barnetts guilt
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  1073.  @marymurray6163  You’re normal? You cannot discern fact from fiction. That’s not normal. You’re literally referring to the Barnetts victim as a psychopath. Scary.
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  1074.  Allan Ros  Her birth moms born 1980. Barnetts changed Natalia’s to 1989. So mom had her at 9?? Plus mom already had a 4yr old. Plus mom was married. Nope. That’s hardly possible.
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  1075.  @eddiejaze8309  Bernie didn’t believe his own lies. The guy was a scammer and he knew it. He wasn’t delusional
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  1076.  Trevor B. Perez  Look no further than Hairizal’s comment that the moon landing was fake, to know exactly the kind of brainless fools who believe the Barnetts
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  1077.  @camiosis9024  The DNA proof absolutely exists. It’s in the transcript of the August hearing.
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  1078.  @1231234mimi  We already have all the answers we need. Her birth records and medical records and dental records. She was a child
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  1079. People adopt children all the time that they later do not want. Yes, bad people adopt just like bad people give birth. Adopting doesn’t mean you’re a saint. Thankfully they didn’t drive off a cliff like the Hart family did with their 6 adopted kids on board
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  1080. What’s sad is that she was adopted by a couple of degenerates who ditched her and now have a bunch of gullible morons bashing their victim for them
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  1081. @James Omar The reasons she gives are lies. She misrepresents what Dr Phil actually asks and then misrepresents Natalia’s answers. She misrepresents what professionals in the case are quoted as saying. She conflates Kristines accusations as coming from a 3rd party. You cannot have a genuine discussion/debate. She has no allegiance to the truth.
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  1082. Bravo! You laid it all out very well. I am team Natalia too
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  1083.  @NickRoman  So much misinformation about this girl has been spread around. Take the “ been with a lot of families” claim. What happened was this- When Dr Phil asked her about previous families, she said “Kristine said I was with 30 families but I don’t remember that many”. Then Dr Phil takes that and runs with it as if it were true. It wasn’t true. After her 1st adoptive family, the Ciccones, decided to place her in a new home, they contacted Little People of America, who put them contact with members who might be interested in adopting a child with dwarfism. The Ciccones then allowed Natalia to spend time/weekends with families who were candidates for adopting her. She never left the Ciccones custody. One of the families, the DePauls, has come forward to share photos of Natalia at that time looking every bit the 6 yr old she was, complete with a missing front baby teeth and adult ones growing in. The DePauls say she was a child. Mom DePaul gave her baths as well and says she looked and acted like a child. But Ciccones wouldn’t let them adopt her. They spent time with her between Sept-Dec 2009, only 4/5 months before Barnetts got her in May 2010. Per Barnetts own statements, the Ciccones brought her to the agency and signed to relinquish her to Barnetts 5 mins before Barnetts arrived. So, Ciccones adopted her in Ukraine, brought her here, relinquished her almost 2 yrs later to Barnetts. According to DePauls, the Ciccones were unprepared for the extent of her medical problems that would require some dozen+ surgeries, then had something DePauls called “a significant loss” that rendered them unable to meet her needs. DePauls daughter (now 15) made her own video defending Natalia, but I’m unsure if it’s still online.
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  1084. Right, cause no parent ever abused a child for no good reason. And even though they lied about her age, it makes sense to believe their claims about her behavior.
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  1085. @James Omar Oh ok thanks. I think the “aunt” said Assa Fi was the last name and she said her (meaning herself the aunt) first name was something that started with a M. Strange all round
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  1086. @James Omar Wow. How’d I miss this? Was this before or after the claim Assa Fi’s account was being misused by her 12 yr old niece?
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  1087.  @camiosis9024  Is that what Krazy Kristy says? Yea she also said her son had a higher IQ than Einstein & was in-line for a Nobel Prize, oh and she revived her comatose newborn nephew with her “love”. BhaHaHa
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  1088.  @audacity2hope645  The court records DID NOT say a hospital noted she had regular periods. That was the Barnetts who claimed that without any proof
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  1089.  @demonbunny6555  Natalia’s birth mother was DNA confirmed and Natalia was born exactly as stated- Sept 2003. But the Barnetts spokesperson is still trying to sell their lies
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  1090.  @camiosis9024  By the way, Did you ever find out what happened to the $200,000 dollars in donations Kristine’s little non profit reaped? That’s A LOT OF money. Where’d it go?
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  1091.  @camiosis9024  Try again Pinocchiosis 🤥 Barnetts already said they were “saving her from GOING INTO foster care” and the DePauls already explained how they were having Natalia over & how sweet she was
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  1092.  @anthony91688  “You’re not the boss of me now”. 😂
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  1093. He left her in a derelict apartment all alone at age 9. He is NOT a good father. After scanning his faceB I see that even His 3 Sons haven’t talked to him since he left THEM in Canada with the mom
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  1094. The prosecution has her original birth certificate according to their filing on the court website. The first adoptive parents (Ciccones) were given a new birth certificate with their names as parents after their Ukrainian adoption was finalized, before they could take her home (to New Hampshire); the Ciccones then likely obtained a new US birth certificate from their home state (this step is not required); the Barnetts received another new birth certificate issued by Indiana after their adoption of her was finalized, that had their names as parents; then another birth certificate was issued with a changed birth year (2003 changed to 1989)after the Barnetts requested her birth certificate be amended to reflect the new birth year. According to Indiana law, all of the birth certificates are retained on file by Indiana.
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  1095. She actually never had a period. The Barnetts lied about that and further lie claiming it was verified by hospital staff. Her medical records do not show what they claimed in interviews
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  1096.  @integralogic  Blocked? 😂You commented in a pubic forum. You invited a response. And that response was no where near as nasty as you’re being about Natalia. That kid’s been abused enough
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  1097.  @integralogic  Your entitled to your own opinion, but your not entitled to your own facts.
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  1098.  @integralogic  Except the hard facts in this case show that her original birth certificate was correct. Medical/dental x rays cannot be faked. Then her birth mother being DNA confirmed
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  1099.  @integralogic  That certainly describes the Barnetts (edit typo)
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  1100. What??
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  1101.  @nicksmith3746  Suuuure she did. The criminal defendants say so and people indicted on felony charges never ever ever lie.
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  1102. @Aleksandar Samardzic I can’t find a link to her explaining what really happened with the fence accusation. I watched & taped the show when it aired. Basically what she said was it was one of her brothers birthdays. Since he loved cows it was at a farm. They were all walking down a trail. She got tired and sat down on the trail. Kristine sent the rest of the family up ahead and then went to Nuttallia and told her that she had to get up. She said that Christine went to help her get up but they both kind of stumbled and both fell onto back down to the trail. Then after that they both got up. She said there was an electric fence along side the trail. But that they never got real close to the fence nor touched the fence. To me it sounded like it was just another occasion for Kristine to try to prove to Michael what a terrible idea the adoption was and what a terrible Natalia was. You should watch that video that I linked to another commenter before we started communicating. You will see just how effortlessly Kristine lies.
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  1103. @Aleksandar Samardzic Kristine said in her daily mail interview the fence incident happened at a birthday party. Then Natalia describes what happened, at the birthday party, on Dr Phil.
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  1104. @Aleksandar Samardzic This is their house. They put it on the market around the time they moved to Canada in 2013. Their bed is at the 29 sec mark. https://youtu.be/ZIdTfFwx844
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  1105. Aleksandar Samardzic Kristine doesn’t have a video. Michael was at work when it supposedly occurred. He said it was Pinesol. Lol. But, you are correct that Michael did say in later interviews that Natalia was standing over him with a knife while he slept. Which is actually physically impossible given her height and the height of their bed (visible in a realtor video). He didn’t witness the farmer fence accusation, but hilariously describes it as if they were picnicking at a maximum security prison. Like, it’s a farmers fence dude! It can’t kill you. It wouldn’t even harm you! Drama llama.
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  1106. @Viktor Braginski You are correct. If you want proof for how absolutely bat sht crazy & a LIAR Kristine is, go to the 13:24 mark of this video. She tells a story that CANNOT be true. https://youtu.be/9i2mlnLJx0c
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  1107. @Aleksandar Samardzic Michael did NOT witness the coffee claim. He revealed that in one of his many many interviews. Kristine is the only “witness”. In fact, the only witness for almost every wild claim. I think Kristine manufactured pretty much all of this. She is a huge liar. Huge.
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  1108.  @charliemason7227  No I’m not the girl. Are you related to the Barnetts?
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  1109. @jeremiah the Song Rains Actually No. There is NO original test that said 22. The Dr McLaren letter does NOT reference any test that showed “22”. The Barnetts age change petition does NOT reference any test that showed “22”. If you read these 2 documents, it is utterly appalling the age change ever happened in the first place
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  1110. With a DNA confirmed 41 yr old birth mother? Mkay
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  1111. She answered the way every innocent person answers. It’s beyond Sus to wait until you’re arrested to make wild accusations against your victim. Very common, but Sus
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  1112. Dang you’re gullible
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  1113. You sure drank the Barnett Kool-Aid. Those weirdos are acting like a fantastical Hollywood movie happened to them in real life. That oughta been your 1st clue they were lying
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  1114. @James Omar Talking civil at first was a ploy. Part of the Awe Gee Shucks I Just Don’t Understand and Have Innocent Legitimate Questions routine. Some of the commenters DO have legitimate questions or are confused or don’t know the actual facts. But these folks used that as cover to try and CAMouflage their true intentions—To defend and excuse the Barnetts while defaming Natalia
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  1115. @James Omar Only normal people get embarrassed when they are soundly corrected. These people aren’t normal. They’re on a mission to trash Natalia and will use any means necessary to accomplish their goal. It’s simultaneously amusing and disgusting.
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  1116. @James Omar Yea I noticed that too. Curious.
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  1117. Too bad they didn’t buy her a Barbie Power Wheels. In the DePauls pictures you can tell she really enjoyed that. Sounds like Kristy didn’t make the effort to learn what she liked
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  1118. It’s verified by the DePaul family she lost her first baby tooth in Oct 2009. That happens at age 6-7. However she looks to you now, the dental evidence backs up that she really was a young child then
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  1119. Thousands of dollars, I’m sure. Hopefully they will be ordered to pay restitution. The costs to Natalia, however, are incalculable
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  1120.  @Imreallyhim777  Her original B certificate was correct. She was born Sept 2003. She was 6 when the Barnetts got her (April 2010), 7 when the adoption was final (Nov 2010). 8 when they changed her age to 22 (June 2012). Three weeks shy of 9 when they put her in 1st apt (Aug 2012). 9 when they moved her to LaFayette (July 2013). 9 or 10 when the Mans rescued her (Aug/Sept 2013)
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  1121. They did figure out her age. Skeletal & dental x rays. X rays don’t lie. Her orig birth certificate was correct.
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  1122. They did NOT raise their bio sons wonderfully. They deprived the youngest 2 of an education by declaring them graduated from high school at ages 10 & 12. So no education for them. Why aren’t those 2 in college? If they were ssooo smart they graduated high school at 10 & 12? And the oldest, the purported math genius, where is he? 23 yrs old, Still in Canada supposedly working on his PhD for the last 6 years and his ONLY degree is a Bachelors of Independent Studies. So for all the genius talk he is no further ahead than any other 23 year old. Sadly, doesn’t even have a Bachelors in physics or math. They clearly did him no favors either. Their track record as parents is abysmal
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  1123. There was nothing to “catch on” to. Her 40 yr old Ukrainian birth mother was confirmed by DNA. Makes it kinda hard for her to be 30 like Barnetts claim
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  1124. But they did do something wrong. Many things wrong. They lied and claimed a child was an adult. They left her by herself and moved to a different country.
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  1125. She didn’t remember the ones in Indiana. Dr Riggs did one, estimated her age as 8. Payton Manning Children’s Hospital 2 yrs later estimated 11. Basically results aligned w original birth certificate
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  1126. A couple of dentists and nearly a dozen medical doctors too. Plus a bunch of cops, a former GAL, a prosecuting attorney, & the family who almost adopted her. What are the odds?
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  1127.  @JackalBlack  Thank you for your kind words. Good talking to you. You can find the documents at the court website mycase dot in dot gov —look under Michael P Barnett, Kristine Kristine. Michael’s has the correct amended probable cause affidavit. That’s like 2.5 pages and a good overview on the medical evidence. Omg the capitol. I hope people get back to normal soon.
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  1128.  @JackalBlack  No I’m not a parent that infantilizes my children. Both mine are STEM majors at college studying engineering and computer programming. The Barnetts are making some very extraordinary claims. That an 18 yr old came to this country with a 4 yr olds visa. And no one noticed but them. Not her first parents, not the Harvard doctors they took her to (yes, 4 Drs who also teach at Harvard Medical School) not her “almost” parents the DePauls, not her parents for the last 7 yrs (the Mans), not the endocrinologist the Barnetts took her to, nor the orthopedic surgeon, nor the 2 dentists. Also the birth mother. It would take a conspiracy for their claim to be true. Or we can look at the obvious answer—-they weren’t cut out for a child who wasn’t easy sailing and are simply bad people. I’d suggest you read the amended probable cause affidavit and the prosecution’s motion for appeal
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  1129. I think if you did any research into this case, read the actual court documents that are available which include information on the medical and dental evaluations, saw the reporting on her birth mother (confirmed by DNA)you’d come to the same conclusion the detective who worked this case for 5 yrs came to—She was a child and a grave injustice has occurred here.
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  1130. No shz. She sounds like a natural born citizen because she was 4 yrs old when she arrived here.
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  1131. You don’t know anything about the Barnetts. You don’t know if either one was adopted themselves, do you? You don’t know if either one had a traumatic childhood, do you? You don’t know what diagnoses either one has, do you? Does Adopting a child automatically mean you are a good and mentally stable person? Surely you wouldn’t say that, knowing that adoptive parents (just like bio parents) have actually k1lled the child/children they adopted. Barnetts were arrested, not her. But she’s the bad one?
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  1132. Barnetts were not a nice family. They were the opposite of nice.
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  1133.  @qa6r  The prosecution got the court order for the DNA test in order to bypass needing the Barnetts permission as the parents, and the birth mother voluntarily cooperated.
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  1134.  @knt5429  Correct. She’ll turn 18 later this year.
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  1135.  @camiosis9024  Judge Meyer stayed his order and did not implement it. So nothing is dismissed unless the court of appeals says so. Not sure why you’re unable to comprehend that
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  1136. The 40 yr old Birth Mother was confirmed by DNA. Legally admissible in ANY court of law. Barnetts abandoned a child. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  1137.  @greyos6034  What resource are you wanting to see? Journal & Courier reported on the birth mom https://amp.jconline.com/amp/3412866001 More info on med & dental testing and Much More- Case number 20A-CR-01968 Michael P Barnett at mycase.in.gov
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  1138. Having adoption regret isn’t being scammed. They had a 6 month period before it was finalized and binding. They’re adults who scarred a little girl for life. Changed the trajectory of her life.
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  1139. Dr Phil was mistaken, there wasn’t 30 families. Natalia didn’t even come to the US until July 2008, with her new parents Ciccones. Barnetts adopted her May 2010 from the Ciccones.
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  1140. That’s be a waste of time. Her birth mother was found, her medical and dental records all located and the dad confessed. But after all that their “perfect” crime might actually work
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  1141. Actually body language principles regarding where you’re looking says that looking left is memory, so that would be truthful. Looking right is imagination.
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  1142. Wow, imagine that, Yet her DNA confirmed birth mom is only 41. Hmmm
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  1143.  James Omar  She reminds me every day how fortunate I am to not be related to someone like her. Bad to the bone. Toxic to the core.
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  1144.  James Omar  Oh look, another monologue from you know who. Trying to sell the most inane theories.
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  1145.  @camiosis9024  You can’t leave a child alone in an Apt even if you bring food, and they have a home care aid. There were reports to CPS of her roaming the neighborhood and knocking on doors and looking unkept. So, she survived but sure wasn’t thriving. But they aren’t charged with crimes because that apt was in Hamilton Co. The crimes they are charged with occurred in LaFayette ,Tippecanoe Co
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  1146.  @williamhargraves8813  She survived because she was in quasi supervised apt through Aspire Indiana, they came over 2-3x/wk, brought food, and she had a home care aid, according to Barnetts. It’s after they moved her she was completely abandoned. She would not have survived if the Mans hadn’t taken her in
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  1147.  @joycelyn7580  Yea, great world we live in where parents can get arrested, then level outlandish accusations against their victim & everyone can have “thoughts” about the victim cause they “look” loving.
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  1148. Bull. They were on the verge of divorce and no one wanted to be stuck with the disabled kid that they never loved in the first place.
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  1149. They did have a choice, the child did not. They failed miserably in their parental obligations. I wish this was an isolated incident, but stories abound of abu3e towards adopted kids
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  1150. Naw, it’s the adoptive parents who are lying. Adults can’t pass as kindergartners, which is the story Barnetts are pushing
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  1151. @cazprescott9 The bioM is being DNA tested by prosecution to confirm. BioF is deceased.
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  1152. The only thing wrong is how long it took for them to be arrested. They can lie all they want, it doesn’t change the fact that she was a child
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  1153. Read the real story at the Indiana court website that has Both sides arguments/motions publicly available online. Search by name Kristine or Michael P Barnett mycase.in.gov
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  1154. Half the things you believe would be easily dispelled if you saw actual pictures of her at 4,6,7,8,9
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  1155. @Kamila Pieniążek Her UKRAINIAN birth mother has been confirmed via DNA testing. But even before that, it’s indisputable that Natalia was Ukrainian. The first family, Ciccones, traveled to Ukraine and selected her and adopted her there and brought her back. She had a Ukrainian passport and a visa from US permitting her entry with her new parents. This whole “no accent” and “can’t speak Ukrainian” was nothing but Red Herrings put forth by Barnetts to distract from what THEY did. Pure rubbish. They had her passport and also a copy of the Ciccone’s adoption decree. This really shows you what kind of people Barnetts are—Liars & Child Abusers.
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  1156. There’s pieces missing because that’s what creates confusion and gets clicks. The true story is not that complicated. Take time. It was 13-14 months. First 12 they visited 2-3x wk, brought food, had home health aid, wasn’t in school, And Yes They were reported. But the “legal” age change shielded them. Then they moved her. Signed her up at adult Ed, her birthdate was already chngd making her 23, then they hit the road north to Canada. Abt 6wks later the Mans rescued her. She’s been with them ever since. It’s time for justice.
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  1157. Many people were commenting that the fact she had no Ukrainian accent was evidence she was a scammer. Myself & others pointed out that young children will lose their accent. If she was 18 when she came here, as opposed to 4, she’d likely still have a accent. The evidence actually showed the opposite of what some people were saying it showed.
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  1158. Sad. You’re feeling bad for the child abusers
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  1159. The Barnetts might beat the rap, but they won’t beat the ride. Lol. I bet those public speaking invites have all but dried up. Lol. Poor poor Kristy
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  1160. The Barnetts claim she was 20 passing for 6. Could you pass for 6 at the age of 20? Yea I didn’t think so
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  1161. The prosecution and detectives did find her birth mother & get all the original documents. Her age was never wrong
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  1162.  @camiosis9024  Franken-Dwarf? You’re a class act. It’s no wonder you’re aligned with the child abusers.
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  1163.  @natalyperetz5784  Handsome? You think? Well you’re in luck, his 2nd wife just dumped him & moved out. They’re divorcing so he’s definitely available. Go get ‘em tiger
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  1164.  @billtozier9081  Dr Phil misspoke. There ain’t 30 families. Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones. Ciccones are the ones who traveled to Ukraine & adopted her. It says so in the Barnetts own filings.
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  1165.  @Freemonstasgaming  Barnetts adopted her from the original adoptive family—Ciccones. Never in fostercare. Ciccones let her spend weekends w potential new families. Ciccones said No to DePauls, who wanted her, said Yes to Barnetts. No one but Barnetts said any Bad about her
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  1166.  @Freemonstasgaming  Adoption regret. Didn’t bond. Disability too much. Wanted her gone w/o looking wicked. Mom was writing a parenting book. Ditching disabled child wouldn’t sell books. They did this in secret
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  1167.  @Freemonstasgaming  No, Dr Phil did not talk to other families. He didn’t even talk to the family who came forward defending her who tried to adopt her, spent wknds w her
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  1168.  @Freemonstasgaming  He said that in error because on the show the girl said “Kristine told me that I’d been w 30 families”. Kristine lied to her.
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  1169.  @lt3096  Nailed it. The parents were lying
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  1170.  @christinee24  Ma Barnett is lying. If that was true they’d have returned to the agency, NOT stayed a few more days in FL then took her back to Indiana without a peep to anyone
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  1171.  @veronicawiltshire3759  She HAS a family. The Mans. The ones who rescued her almost 8 YEARS ago. So save the “you should adopt her” nonsense.
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  1172.  @LIAHAKEL  Yup. 👍Barnetts treated her like a pet they couldn’t be bothered with.
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  1173.  @beewoke  Let me know if you want me to stop tagging you. But I thought you might like this. It’s not searchable, can only find with direct link. From a family before Barnetts https://youtu.be/D9dH4_JWeRc
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  1174. @Valerie Velarde They DID figure it out. That’s why the Barnetts got arrested.
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  1175. @camiosis STOP PRETENDING. You said the CICCONES found med records for her that preceded her 2003 date of birth. PUT UP or SHUT UP. #PostTheProof Pinocchio
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  1176. @camiosis And this is why we have Appellate Courts-To fix the mistakes of lower courts. The dismissal will be #OverTurned and this case will Proceed. Bye bye barnutters
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  1177. @Anvil Designs Read what journal & courier reported mere hours ago—Natalia’s age is now proven. Bio mom confirmed by DNA. Prosecution appealing the dismissal of the age charges!
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  1178. @camiosis You’re late. I knew about this a week ago. Guess you’re not the expert on this case you pretend to be. Still 2 FELONY counts. Still facing jail. The judge said what everyone already knew going in—That a court in 2012 declared her an adult. It’s not like this judge looked at the age evidence and agreed. So I’m looking forward to the actual trial on the merits of the neglect of a dependent being a dependent cause of her disability. Whatever it takes to get those degenerates behind bars where they belong.
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  1179. @camiosis #WrongAgain Michael was talking about the 2016 case, NOT the secret confidential 2012 hearing. Further, even about 2016 he did NOT say what you’re claiming. He NEVER said an endocrinologist and neuropsychiatrist. Lol. You failed again. Oh and by the way, the endocrinologist Dr Riggs, he’s the doc who said Natalia was 8 yrs old. He was against Barnetts. But you gonna try and act like he testified FOR Barnetts? You’re off your rocker. Another thing, Natalia never saw a neuropsychiatrist. You can’t hardly get a dang thing right. It was a neuroPSYCHOLOGIST, and she’s on the Prosecution witness list.
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  1180. @camiosis You sure do spin a lot of nonsense. Especially claiming that 2 doctors testified at the age change hearing. That’s just 1 of the lies you tell. There weren’t ANY Drs testifying at that Ex Parte hearing. Nope. Not 1. Just Barnutts and their attorney. Easy peazy. No one there to say a single word against them or to oppose them. What a crock. Thankfully no matter how the Felony case ends, the detective did a phenomenal job and uncovered enough evidence that will be used to have her true and accurate age restored after this is over. As for the adoption agency, they were NEVER investigated for ANYTHING having to do with Barnetts. So your little fairytale about courts ordering them to do anything in regards to Barnetts is simply a figment of your imagination and wishful thinking. So Yes of course if Barnetts were really tricked by the agency and the Ciccones they would have sued the agency and would have gotten the adoption nullified. They didn’t do that and that’s one of the biggest proofs of them Lying. They ain’t even Naming & Shaming this supposedly rogue agency!! Lol. Cause they know the agency and the Ciccones would sue them for Thousands in damages for defamation. You can keep lying and saying Natalia was dx with an antisocial personality disorder. But you’re personally defaming her every time you do, because she was NEVER given that diagnosis. NEVER at any time. I’m guessing that is YOUR diagnosis among others. The reason for their divorce matters because Michael accused her of abusing him and people who abuse their spouses usually abuse their kids too. So if his accusation is true, then that supports Natalia. All I know is Kristine’s mom was banned by the judge from seeing her other grandchild during Kristine’s sister’s divorce and the Apple doesn’t usually fall too far from the tree.
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  1181. @GhostLady Darkling Natalia wasn’t in foster care. There are no “30 families”. Before letting Barnutts adopt her, Ciccones has her spend time with potential adopters. That potential family is the DePauls and they have been very vocal in calling out the Barnutts for lying and say N was a sweet normal little girl.
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  1182. @Kathryn Dogoloff You obviously haven’t read Kristine’s book The Spark. In it she reveals that Jacobs dr in 2010 told them HE DOESN’T HAVE AUTISM. So all your conjecture about special needs does NOT apply because he does NOT have special needs. Whether he EVER was really diagnosed in the first place, Who Knows?! She probably lied about that just like she is lying about Natalia.
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  1183. 0MohawkWarrior0 Go look at Indiana statutes. There is NOT a criminal charge called “child endangerment”. The charge for endangering a child IS Neglect of a Dependent. The State has clarified in past hearing that they are charging them based on the fact that Natalia was a minor child. Not cause she disabled. But based on her AGE. The state proclaimed the age change Fraudulent. She WAS A CHILD.
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  1184. camiosis You LIAR. The 2008 medical records said Diastrophic Dysplasia not SED. Further, NO SUCH THING AS “ADOPTION PROGRAM”. Ukraine law is Very Clear—All adoptions must take place and be finalized IN UKRAINE. Then US law is VERY CLEAR—When you’re adopted overseas you BECOME A US CITIZEN AUTOMATICALLY as soon as you enter the US with your parent. THERES NO WAIT PERIOD you lying Pos
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  1185. You really gloss over the fact Barnetts never filed suit against the adoption agency, or against the Ciccones that they adopted her from. They claim these folks gave them a sociopathic adult and told them she was 6. But not a peep. They never even called and confronted the agency or Ciccones. Why do you suppose that is?? I’ll tell you why. Because they are lying. No point in trying to railroad adults who have the ability to fight back and defend themselves. Notice the Barnetts didn’t even say the name of the agency, in ALL those interviews.Why not warn the public- “Hey folks, watch out, Adoption Agency ABC is passing adults off as children”. No, the cowardly Barnetts accused the only person unable to defend themselves—-Natalia Barnett.
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  1186. @James Omar It’s a dangerous place for children. Parents need to be more aware and protect their kids. That one’s are failing miserably
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  1187. @James Omar Yea, I have no way of knowing whether they actually are 10¡ but have no interest in further engaging with a child
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  1188. @James Omar What in the world? Someone is crazily claiming to be 10yrs old on here?? People bashing the victim in this case have no shame & zero common sense
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  1189. She didn’t do anything wrong.
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  1190. China treats their old people like they do dying dogs. Real humanitarians I tell ya! While other countries adopt the little girls China didn’t want.
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  1191.  @camiosis  Prosecutor Starbuck spoke on the record Aug 26 2020 that the DNA test confirmed Anna was her birth mother. Try again 🤣
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  1192. @James Omar It’s hard not to, for sure. And if I say anymore it’ll probably be mean, so I’ll refrain
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  1193. Her birth mother was confirmed by DNA. Her birth mother is only 41. It’s impossible for Natalia to be the age you seem to think she is. Oh, and BTW, her mother is Ukrainian & lives in Ukraine
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  1194.  @teridemedeiros975  UR welcome. Unfortunately most of the YouTubers are simply repeating the Barnetts allegations without question. They’re being irresponsible because the truth is out there. But “Orphan in Real Life” is more appealing for some reason.
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  1195. Teri ALL that information is known. Her birth mother Anna Gava was DNA maternity tested. She is indisputably her birth mother; birth father is deceased. Parents were married but separated, she was their 2nd child, she was relinquished because of her disabilities. The birth parents reunited after and had 2 more children. The birth mother is 41 yrs old. The first adopted parents are Dyan Lee Puma Ciccone and Gary Ciccone. Adopted her in Ukraine in July 2008, brought her back here. The Ciccones contracted with the agency to find her new parents. They did not “give” her to the agency. She was in the custody of Ciccones until they brought her to the Barnetts who were waiting at the unnamed agency. The Ciccones did not lie or misrepresent her age.
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  1196. If you research it you’ll see that not a single family has come forward to say anything bad about her. Only families (DePauls) (Mans-current) who say she was/is a nice girl
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  1197. The dad already confessed. He said she was a child and they knew it. They told her to tell people she was 22 but just looked young. It’s in the police report. They got arrested after that & he lawyered up
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  1198.  @camiosis  DNA confirmed birth mother was born in 1980, was married and had a 4 yr old when she gave birth to N in 2003. Not possible she had her in 1989
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  1199.  @joseortega-us6rn  Truth!! This nightmare for her is coming to an end. The Barnetts have been exposed & must live w the knowledge of what they did.
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  1200.  @joseortega-us6rn  The system failed Jose. Again.
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  1201. UPDATE: Kristine trial moved to 2/13/2023; Michael still scheduled for 10/24/2022, Hearing today 10/14 on Michael’s violation of gag order
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  1202.  @Mar.....O  Yes, Kristine (& Michael) Barnett are the legal adoptive parents (The Mans are the current family). Gag order is a court order, not a suggestion. It’s in place to help ensure a fair trial.
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  1203.  @emmas1082  She’s only lived with 3 families. 1st adopters, said good things about her to the DePauls; 2nd adopters Barnetts- arrested & charged; 3rd parents- Still happy together
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  1204.  @emmas1082  You might want to check the thread under incognito mode. The algorithm tends to block long winded diatribes
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  1205.  @Hosidius  Cam is a follower of Kristine and her pseudoscience Spark method. She’s been lying & defaming the victim for over 2 yrs. Everyone knows the kid was a real kid.
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  1206.  @camiosis9024  IN Supreme Court declined to hear the appeal. They did not accept the case nor render a verdict. And they certainly didn’t file their declining with SCOTUS. Counts 1.3.5 dismissed due to Statute of Limitations. Then count 7 by Tippecanoe Judge Meyer for Statute of Limitations. Their trials are for counts 2, 4, 6 & 8 and Kristine is also facing a charge for violating the court’s gag order, that’s happening in May 🎉🍿🍿
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  1207. Yea that was strange of Phil to say. She knows how old she is. She had a birth certificate like everyone else. It’s been proven accurate by her birth mom & testing. She was born 2003.
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  1208. The girl is the good person who bad things happened to. Do you think you’re better than adoptees? You know, we’re all just a car accident away from being orphaned ourselves
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  1209. Lol someone just posted about you. Said the only people who believe the Barnetts are morons who think they’re smarter than others when in reality they’re (You) dumb as a box of rocks. And now I see one of you in the wild. Hilarious
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  1210. This kid was 4yrs old sitting in a Ukrainian orphanage and didn’t know what America was. Til 2 Americans went and got her, only to pawn her off 2yrs later to the diabolical Barnetts
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  1211. Have you seen the blog? It’ll answer a lot of questions. It’s called Justice For Natalia Grace
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  1212.  James Omar  I’ve done the same, too
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  1213.  James Omar  “Aging like milk” is also a popular subreddit. What it means is how the passage of time shows how wrong a statement was at the time it was made. Some comments get better with age (like cheese or wine). Some age badly (like milk does)So what Saad means is that people who a year ago said she was an adult, look stupid now that her birth mother was confirmed and proves she was NOT an adult. Tl;Dr -Saad is one of the good guys
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  1214. Not a chance. She’s exactly the age they were told. Kristine just didn’t like taking care of a child she didn’t give birth to, so she made shz up to get her loser hubby on board. He already admitted it
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  1215. @camiosis No that’s not true. Her medical records from 1st family, in 2008 from Boston Children’s Hospital, noted that the doctor had to call in a translator because she didn’t speak English
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  1216. dayrenist Yes! Dental records!! This was reported on. The dentist in 2011 said she was between 8-9. The dentist in 2012 said she was btwn 6-9. Mind you, her original birth certificate said born 2003.
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  1217. @Julia A On Ready To Glare’s exclusive video she shows a school evaluation that showed her developmental age which matched her birth certificate.
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  1218. The joints in her hands and fingers are so jacked up she could barely hold a crayon. But she was gonna stab them? Ludicrous
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  1219. So, you did research? Did you find proof of the claimed hair? Or are you just taking the criminal defendants word for it? Does their word count more than hers? Why?
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  1220. The media has created this. The parents story is laughable on its face and should have been reported that way. Even the example you gave, which seems like you’re trying to be fair minded, left out the third option which was that the parents are lying and she never had a period in the first place. The Barnetts had her birth year changed from 2003 to 1989. Backtracking, this means that when she came here in 2008 and started kindergarten in Sept 2008, that she wasn’t 5 but was really 19. So a 19 yr old sat in Kindergarten for a year and no one noticed she was a adult just because she really really short? Repeat scenario in 1st and 2nd grade. That’s just not remotely possible. That’s not even mentioning all the doctors she saw and “fooled”, despite the impossibly of faking x ray results of growth plates and baby teeth.
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  1221. Yes way she is 17 (now). Her birth mother was located and DNA confirmed. She’s got all the receipts proving it.
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  1222. On the show she said Kristine told her she’d had 30 families & Dr Phil went around saying it as if it was a fact. In interviews the Barnetts said they adopted her from the Ciccones utilizing an adoption agency. The Ciccones are the ones who adopted her in Ukraine then brought her here in 2008. She wasn’t in foster care and there wasn’t 30 families. That was really irresponsible of Dr Phil. I think it’s unsurprising she sounded older to you because she hasn’t lived the life of the average 16 yr old. Also, kids adopted very young don’t retain an accent or 1st language. No accent supports her being a young child at adoption. An adult would still have an accent.
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  1223.  @sl9wdive  I saw the medical records shared by a past family. She isn’t physically capable of stabbing anyone. The joints in her hands are so compromised she can barely hold a crayon, let alone a knife, let alone have the strength to penetrate someone’s flesh even if she could hold it. Some of her fingers don’t even bend, her elbows and shoulders have contractures. She has poor muscle tone. She would need to have even her food cut for her. As for poisoning, they couldn’t even get their stories straight. Dad said it was Pinesol, mom said it was bleach. Why the discrepancy? A mastermind con artist would be murderer (according to them) would surely at least use something they wouldn’t Smell and definitely would put it in at a time no one was around to “witness” it and surely if true they would have called the police or DHS/CPS. None of their story makes any sense at all. It’s lies.
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  1224. Scared of a weak, profoundly disabled girl who is all of 3 feet tall if that?? Absurd. The parents are lying so they don’t sound like the child abusers they are.
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  1225. But Dr Bellflower treated her at 6 yrs old and said unequivocally X rays Don’t Lie, she was a child
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  1226. They did. This is why the parents were arrested and not her
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  1227. The Barnetts are liars and just didn’t want to go to jail
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  1228. She’s not the liar, it’s her adoptive parents who lied. She was a real child whose birth mother has now been confirmed so there is no more legitimate question of her age
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  1229. Incorrect. They might get off on legal technicalities. We’ll see what court of appeals rules. As for her family, she is still with the same family (7years) who rescued her after Barnetts ran off to Canada.
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  1230.  @Nikoomilano  Worst part now is that because the state failed to effectively act earlier, child neglect was dismissed & they are only facing 2 counts felony neglect of disabled dependent.
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  1231. When Drs took x rays she had open growth plates. Adults don’t even have growth plates. She is medically proven to have been a minor child. Barnetts are liars
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  1232. I suspect you weren’t actually looking at pics of her at 8. Go to the blog Justice For Natalia Grace and you’ll see her pics in true chronological order
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  1233.  @psycronizer  So you saw the hair? No? So how do you know that’s true? Then they waited 6 months with her in their home, after they supposedly were freaked out by hair and thought she was past puberty, and STILL willingly went to court to become her legal parents. Prior to that, they were not her legal parents, they chose to become so. You’re lacking a lot of critical thinking here. The truth is they got a little girl, exactly the age as indicated on her birth certificate. They just changed their minds and didn’t want to look like the bad guys.
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  1234. Why do you believe ANYthing these people say? Carpet? Says the criminal defendants. Where’s the proof? Why’d the expert say she was approx 8, which was inline with her birth certificate that had her at 7 at that time. They met her original adopters, the Ciccones, when they adopted her from them, utilizing the adoption agency. Then they had her in their home for six months before they went to court in their home state of Indiana and made it permanent. The agency was Shepherd Care, the oldest agency in all of FL, not some fly by night strip-mall like Barnetts claimed. Nearly every word out of their mouths was a lie. Like typical accused criminals
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  1235. She’s not lying. Her medical & dental x rays prove she was a child. X rays don’t lie. You can’t fake x rays. The Barnetts are bad people
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  1236.  @PinkLlamaGrl  Barnetts adopted from the Ciccones utilizing a FL agency. They didn’t sue because their story is a sham. She was a child and they knew that
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  1237. Not true. In fact, there was NO hearing whatsoever when her age was changed. I sht you not. They merely filed the request/petition and 11 days later the judge signed it. Never even saw the child. Never spoke to a single doctor. Really sketchy. Natalia has never had an attorney herself and has never testified and has never had due process. Maybe she will if she sues after the Barnetts criminal trials conclude. She ought to sue. She was really born 2003
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  1238.  @mkultra8244  I’m no expert either, but I know from watching other analysis that they never conclude deception from a couple of “tells”. They look for clustering and hi number of tells/red flags. Nodding yes while answering no, is an example of a red flag. Shaking head no, while answering no is consistent and not a tell. Then you need to also consider camera placement and editing when You are not personally speaking to someone. It can be impossible to say with certainty because you’re not actually there and you’re not getting an overhead view like many police interrogations show. In this case, there is hard scientific proof she was a child and not an adult when they dumped her. Skeletal ex rays that showed growth plates. Adults don’t have growth plates. They use this method in the Olympics if there is a question about age. Also there’s dental ex rays, which produced estimates in 2011 of age 8 to 9, and 2012 of age 6 to 9. You will hear the Barnetts lie about the results of these, but I’ve read the probable cause affidavit on the court website. The reporting on this has been atrocious and an innocent child (now 17) has been scandalously defamed. It’s really sad.
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  1239. Sure, NOW she’s full grown. But she was a child back in 2012 when they abandoned her.
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  1240. She had testing. Years ago. It all said she was a child. Barnetts concealed those records from the court when they got her age changed so they could dump the child and not get arrested. Fail!
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  1241.  @camiosis9024  Wow. You’re STILL pretending the DNA test didn’t prove CONCLUSIVELY that she was the birth mom. Lol 😂 All I see is people who got away with it because the Statute of Limitations expired and the state didn’t present enough evidence to prove an exception to the statute. Were they acquitted? NOPE. Is Natalia an 18 year old girl with an amended US birth certificate saying she’s 32? Yup.
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  1242.  @camiosis9024  Pure fiction
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  1243.  @johnhancock6114  I guess you don’t believe in science, then. Because this kid had multiple x rays taken & had open growth plates. Adults don’t even have growth plates.
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  1244.  @camiosis9024  My favorite was when she “admitted” being older than her birth mother. This is all great evidence for Natalia’s future civil suit against Barnetts. Kristine really emotionally abused her. The evidence is all here.
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  1245.  @camiosis9024  “You lie about the lies that you lied about”. She was never in foster care. Barnetts own words & court filings. DePauls were not foster parents. The Ciccones let Natalia spend some long weekends getting to know DePauls between Sept 2009-Dec 2009. Utilizing private attorneys. They’ve given interviews defending her. How inconvenient for your nutty narrative.
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  1246.  @thatolesolopo  Yes, I heard their lies. Then I read the police report and court documents. That’s how I know 100% they lied. She was a child
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  1247. Oh, you believe the Barnetts? Enough to call the girl “this thing”. How disgusting. You’ve been bamboozled and don’t even know it
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  1248.  @camiosis9024  Funny how earlier you imagined the IN Supreme Court churning out a 34 pg decision. That’s ok, you can edit your comment so you don’t look so delusional. COA only upheld the dismissal of 3 of 8 charges. Written plain as day. And Mikey only filed to dismiss count 7. You never get anything right, do ya?😂
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  1249.  @camiosis9024  Lay off the sauce Sis. Indiana Supreme Court declined to hear the case 😂 So Indiana Supreme Court didn’t explain anything. I don’t expect a person who can’t subtract 3 from 8 to get it.
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  1250.  @camiosis9024  There were 8 charges and 3 were dismissed as past the statute of limitations. Eight minus three equals................think hard..........Five😂🤣😂5 renaming charges
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  1251.  @camiosis9024  Dismissed counts 1, 3 & 5 due to being past the statute of limitations and the state was unable to prove an exception to the statute.
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  1252. Barnetts have ZERO proof of their outrageous claims. Less than Zero. That’s why THEY were arrested after a 5 yr investigation. Natalia was an innocent child.
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  1253. Michael Barnett: “She came running into the room to meet us, saying Mommy Daddy Mommy Daddy”. Kristine Barnett: “In the parking lot we noticed she couldn’t walk” (Then later)“She RAN to the water at the beach and we were shocked because she couldn’t walk”. WHY were they shocked she could walk if previously she ran into the room to greet them? Make up your minds Mr & Ms Barnett
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  1254. Natalia’s words are backed up by the scientific evidence. All the x rays said she was a child. Barnetts & their supporters love to lie. X rays cannot be faked
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  1255.  @DebraSuttondls  3 counts Neg of a Dependent, 1 count conspiracy to Neg a Dependent. Because of the prior age change that occurred in 2012, the State is not allowed to argue or present evidence that she was really a child born 2003. So not allowed to tell the jury about the age change or call birth mom to testify or present medical doctors with x ray evidence of growth plates or dentists eval with x rays. Legally it didn’t matter how old she really was, all that mattered was her birth year was now 1989. No judge even looked at the age evidence to decide if the age change was correct. It gets to stand, so the state was left w arguing her disability made her their dependent and the charged period started July 2014, not Aug 2012 when they first put her alone in an apt. The Dad went to trial in Oct and was acquitted. Likely because the new family took her in in Aug 2013 so she wasn’t in danger when the charge period began in July 2014. The moms trial is coming April 2023.
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  1256.  James Omar  Yeah, you are totally right. I actually never thought about that. She’d have cleaned them out then skipped town. A million ways their story makes no sense
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  1257.  James Omar  The thing that escapes me is why would someone think she needs to (or would want to) fake being a child to survive in the first place. An adult with profound disabilities like she has is entitled to SSI and a host of other govt benefits. It’s not a cushy life, but you certainly can survive. Then there’s also the marriage option. If an adult she could marry or just live with a significant other and survive. Becoming a child is a super risky proposition, with far far less rights than an adult has. You could get sent away to some hellish wilderness boarding school or out-of-country facility. You are at your parents mercy. I just don’t get why people are thinking this was some brilliant plan of a master con artist like they think Natalia is. A true con artist would never make themselves so vulnerable.
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  1258. Barnetts whipped up a lynch mob against this girl. Be smarter than that
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  1259.  @AmGJaG829  She was first adopted by New Hampshire couple Gary and Dyan Ciccone. Gary is an architect. Dyan works for a College. They traveled to Ukraine, adopted her, brought her back home in July 2008. Her birth certificate said she was born Sept 2003. Her passport and visa said same. She was 4yrs old. The Ciccones took her to one of the best Children’s Hospitals in the world- Boston Children’s Hospital. Among her early doctors were Orthopedic Surgeons Samantha Spencer, John Emans and Michael Millis. Her geneticist was Dr David Harris. All these doctors also teach at Harvard Medical School. There is no chance whatsoever that these doctors failed to recognize that she was a “secret adult” born in 1989 like the Barnetts allege. Most youtubers are capitalizing on the sensational aspects of this case will little regard for facts, and even less regard for a little girl (now a teen) who had her childhood stolen, her future foreclosed and her character assassinated.
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  1260. @Helena It’s simultaneously humorous and sad that you believe the Barnetts allegations.
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  1261. Wubber Wrestlers He looks 30+ in that photo, easy.
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  1262. Taniel Moonsamy You’re gullible and supporting child abusers (The Barnetts). Ex dad Barnett confessed! The medical, dental & photographic evidence supports Natalia
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  1263. Philly Love I get what your saying, but your talking about a 2 yr age difference. They changed her age 14 years. Which would mean when Cicciones adoptee her at 4, she was really 18. That’s too much. She’d have had all her adult teeth. But she didn’t. She’d have had breasts. But she didn’t. Frankly, she’d have never made it past US immigration, as they are trained to detect fraud. US immigration may not be able to tell a 2-3yr irregularity, but a 14 years or even a 10 yr discrepancy? Absolutely they would detect that, Especially since she was [supposed to be] only 4. Could a 26 yr old pass for 16? Sure. But no adult is passing for 4 then aging in what looks a normal fashion.
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  1264. Pimpin Ken From what I’ve seen it was easy to get her age changed. No judge expected they were doing this for the sole purpose of dumping her. The judge didn’t even see her before adding 14 years to and eight yr olds age. Do you know how much paperwork it takes to get an internationally adopted orphan into the US? Immigration is trained to look for scams. But an 18 yr old “pretending” to be 4 didn’t raise suspicions? Nonsense. There’s a reason Barnetts didn’t go to court to nullify the adoption, instead changed her age in an Ex Parte hearing with no opposing party present.
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  1265. @Abby Haramis Parents who adopted a disabled child & discovered they couldn’t handle it VS a vast conspiracy where a 20yr old passes for a 6 yr old. Is this what you’re asking?
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  1266.  @dmplopez3880  Like Dr Phil gives AF about the harm he causes. Guy even screwed over Britany. He oughta be sued. Who knows? Maybe he will be.
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  1267.  @dmplopez3880  That 30 family nonsense originated from Dr Phil misspeaking after Natalia said “Kristine said I was with 30 families”. Kristine musta been gaslighting the poor kid. There’s zero controversy over the fact Barnetts adopted her from Ciccones. Further, Barnetts said all they got from the agency was 2 pictures and 1 dr visit report. So how would they know how many families had her in Ukraine? When Ciccones went there and adopted her when she was 4. It’s obvious nonsense. It came from Dr Phil misspeaking and Kristine being a witch of a mother.
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  1268. The only family complaining about Natalia are the ones in handcuffs. Seriously, find me ONE other family making any claims against Natalia. You can’t. 30 families my patooty
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  1269.  @De.D1  Have you ever considered it’s the Barnetts who are lying?
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  1270. @KandT-Venture In Indiana the charge is neglect of a dependent. You can be a dependent because you are a child, or because you are physically or mentally disabled and are dependent because of that. So even if they she can’t be considered a dependent because of being a legal adult, she can still be a dependent because of her disabilities. Of course, the court of appeals could also side with the prosecution and overturn the dismissal order, which would mean they would face all the charges.
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  1271. @KandT-Venture They’re not off the hook yet. The judge did stay the dismissal order of the age related charges and granted what’s called an interlocutory appeal. So the Court of Appeals will determine if those charges can go forward. The prosecution wants the jury to hear all the evidence and decide if they abandoned a minor or not. Judge says the jury doesn’t get to decide if she’s a minor or not because of the 2012 age change. Barnett supporters would like people to believe that this means the judge looked at all the evidence and determined she was an adult, but THAT is actually what the prosecution wants—Look at all the evidence and then decide—and THAT is what the judge says he CANNOT do. He says he cannot decide her age for himself, he must honor the old age change. Even IF Barnetts win at appellate court, they are still charged with Disability related neglect, 2 felony counts. Here is the actual court order of dismissal for Michael so you can see the reasoning and see a good overview of the history of how this poor kid’s been screwed over http://media.heartlandtv.com/documents/ORDER+GRANTING+Dismissal+I+through+VI.pdf
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  1272. @KandT-Venture Sometimes all it takes is one person. One person to stand up for the truth. He lucky he had you guys to stand up for him, and the cops being good too
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  1273. @KandT-Venture Wow. Wow. What a terrible thing they did to him!! That’s like what the media did to Richard Jewel. He was the security guard at the Atlanta Olympics who saved an untold number of lives when he discovered what turned out to be a bomb in a backpack. Within days, however, he was being accused of having planted the bomb and was crucified in the media. To this day some people still think he did it, even though he was eventually exonerated and the real culprit caught. Wow, what an experience you’ve had First Hand.
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  1274. KandT-Venture Exactly. They think they know “facts” but actually do not. There is SO MUCH in this case that can be independently verified or independently disproven. I remember when it was first being reported and the story was “No one knows where she is. She disappeared”. Like, legitimate news agencies were saying that!! I immediately when to the Indiana court website (mycase.in.gov) and under Search Cases I input her name. That led me to the guardianship case the Mans had filed. It also revealed the names of the Mans. Then I went to Facebook and in less than 5 minutes I was looking at current pictures of her with the Mans. She was clearly still living with the Mans. She WASN’T “missing”. She hadn’t “disappeared”. It was really disappointing to see “professional” journalists get something so basic incorrect and add to the impression that SHE was the scammer. Later I learned from the court website that Michael Barnett had hired a Public Relations Firm!!! Name is Herd Strategies. They provide “crisis management”. So that’s obviously how Barnetts were able to mislead and control the narrative. What they have done is SO disgusting. Abuse then accuse, it’s the oldest trick in the book.
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  1275. @KandT-Venture You’re welcome. I’ve been following this in depth since last year Sept. But you’ve proven that a person doesn’t really even need to know all the specific details because the truth is just so obvious. You knew the truth. As does everyone else with a modicum of intelligence. I saw a former Harvard professor speaking about this case on his blog. He said if he were judge he’d have the Barnetts in jail in Minutes. Barnett supporters are misguided, misinformed or flat out biased. The first 2 categories can be reasoned with. The last category are incurably ignorant.
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  1276. @André Sanabria First off, Natalia has Diastrophic Dysplasia, not spondylometaphyseal dysplasia. This was revealed by Nicole DePaul, who received medical records from the first family, the Ciccones, when DePauls were in the process of trying to adopt Natalia from the Ciccones. Nicole also has Diastrophic Dysplasia. It was conclusively diagnosed via physical signs and genetic testing. The Second, it is entirely possible to determine her age, though like All scientific age determinations it Is within a range of 0-3 years. Natalia’s age WAS determined medically by specialists. An endocrinologist named Dr Riggs, who is a growth disorder specialist and was head of the endocrinology department, evaluated her in Oct 2010 and estimated her age as 8 yrs old. Later in June 2012 she had a complete skeletal survey which resulted in an estimated age of 11. A skeletal survey uses ex rays to evaluate the patients growth plates. Since her growth “plates” had not progressed to growth “lines”, it conclusively establishes that she was not an adult. Here is the probable cause affidavit that was written prior to DePauls sharing of old medical records, thus has the incorrect dwarfism subtype, but it DOES recount the 2010 and 2012 medical results from specialists. As well as Michael Barnett’s confession that she WAS a child and they knew that https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1277. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. I think the parents borrowed the plot
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  1278. She didn’t have a cycle to hide. You best believe they’re lucky she survived or else it wouldn’t be felony neglect they’re facing, it’d be homicide
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  1279. Uouttooo Well you can’t get divorced unless the court orders it, can you? I think it’s a good analogy. Barnetts asked a judge to divorce them, just like they asked a judge to amend her birth certificate
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  1280. Uouttooo Don’t be so obtuse. That’s like saying the Barnetts didn’t divorce each other, the court declared them divorced.
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  1281. 456 süd Ready To Glare and IO changed their original stance to where they no longer believe the Barnetts. I hope Kendall does too, cause there is much more credible evidence Natalia was the victim
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  1282. But has a 41yr old birth mom? The mom was confirmed by DNA maternity testing
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  1283. She is 17. She was born 2003, confirmed by birth mom AND doctors & dentists. Barnetts abandoned her in 2013 when she was 9 yrs old.
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  1284.  @jeniestra.  In Indiana the homeschooling parent determines when the child has graduated. There is no state oversight. There are no testing requirements. The parents create the transcripts and issue their own “diploma”. So Kristine determined they graduated right before they moved to Canada. How convenient. I think it’s outrageous. But it was legal. They’re good at making whatever they do “legal”. Do you know where the oldest is now? He’s 23, still in Canada listed as a PhD student. His highest degree obtained is a Bachelor’s degree in Independent Studies, NOT math or physics. No masters degree. So, basically, they didn’t do HIM any favors either by rushing him through. But she sure made a lot of money off him with her book and the sale of the movie rights.
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  1285.  @jeniestra.  You held up their treatment of their eldest son as evidencing responsible parenting. I pointed out their treatment of their 2 younger sons as evidencing irresponsible parenting, outside of how irresponsible they were towards their adopted daughter. The evidence of where those 2 sons are today suggests they deprived their 2 sons of a good education and the experience of attending high school with their peers. Their motives for how they treated all their sons ought to be questioned in light of their outcomes.
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  1286. Doofus, that fictional movie came out before they adopted her. The parents borrowed the storyline for their fantastical allegations
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  1287.  @camiosis  See ya in October for their trials on FOUR FELONY COUNTS.
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  1288.  @malcolmblacctheicon  Dude, they were collecting HER social sec income check. They paid with HER money. That ain’t generous. And school was free (plus age inappropriate)
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  1289. @James Omar The only pet they should have is a Pet Rock
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  1290. Nah, that movie came out in 2009, inspired by the antics of cultist Barbora Skrlova. Natalia was a real child, turns 18 in a month
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  1291. The violence was done to Her in the Barnetts home. New docu series on MAX
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  1292.  @teddybear6630  Hey, we’ve all read about adults going back to high school passing themselves off as a teenager. Barnetts? They claim an adult passed as a kindergartner! Then their other claims are ripped straight off the movie Orphan. They neglected and abandoned this kid they adopted now they’re trashing HER reputation. They are the lowest of the low. Just my opinion
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  1293. Sure she tried to kill the boys but the Barnetts never reported it. Load of BS to cover their own crimes against her
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  1294. Loving parents don’t falsely have a child’s age changed so that they can “legally” abandon them. She was an actual child and what they did was wrong.
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  1295.  @kellykroeger714  A judge approved the arrest warrants. Not sure why you don’t understand that or won’t accept that fact.
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  1296. @Kelly Kroeger What agency assisted them? What about the first family? I mean, the first family is who gave the agency all the info & documents. So is the first family scammers too?
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  1297. @Raymond montunez Considering that the birth mom, confirmed by DNA, is only 40, you must believe she gave birth at age 9. Mkay
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  1298. Medical records from the 1st family showed She did NOT speak English at first. The dr had to call in a translator.
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  1299. She wasn’t lying
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  1300. She’s an adult NOW. She wasn’t when they adopted her back in 2010
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  1301.  @vivi4nnes  The Barnetts are definitely narcissistic. You got that right.
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  1302.  @aaliyahetc.6687  In a court document Barnetts wrote she made statements of “detailed alleged abuse”. But they didn’t say WHO allegedly abused her; could have been allegations against them
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  1303. She doesn’t need adopting. She has a family who loves her very much. The ones who rescued her back in 2013
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  1304. I don’t believe Dr Phil. But he did get it mostly right. I believe the 2 orthopedic surgeons, 2 child abuse pediatrician, 2 dentists and the endocrinologist who ALL said she was a child when they ditched her.
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  1305. GoodTimeTraveler Why did the dr get her type of dwarfism wrong? Why did he claim a mental health diagnosis that doesn’t exist? There’s no diagnosis called “sociopathic personality disorder”.
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  1306. Pineapple Face All you did what regurgitate the Barnetts accusations. Where is this bone test that showed 14? The dr letter the Barnetts leaked does not mention that, yet he supposedly ordered the test. As for the teeth claim, it’s been totally disproven by the DePauls and the prosecution getting her actual records. Barnetts are lying
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  1307.  @loveloveAtl  If you knew all the evidence against Barnetts, you wouldn’t be supporting them. I’m talking solid scientific evidence, medical & dental x rays which cannot be faked. Additionally her birth mother was located. It took the detectives 5 yrs to gather all the evidence.
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  1308. SHE is not the one on trial. Barnetts are no different than all the other perpetrators who try to put the blame on the victim.
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  1309. Aaliyhana Bartlett Yet you cannot discern truth from lies, fact from fiction.
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  1310. Reading these comments leaves no mystery why our students have such abysmal SAT scores. The ignorance is overwhelming.
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  1311. How ‘bout polygraph the accused?
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  1312.  @camiosis9024  Natalia’s go fund me was spent on Natalia. It was really nice seeing how happy it made her. She is such a sweet girl. Kristine tried to extinguish her Spark but failed miserably
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  1313.  @camiosis9024  How much did Kristy’s go fund me take in? Why didn’t she list herself as the beneficiary? That was weird. Under beneficiary it said John Barnett, not Kristine Barnett.
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  1314.  @camiosis9024  But where did all that money go? 200k is a lot of money. Maybe there’s a good explanation. Maybe there isn’t. Just asking. Since you know her on Facebook.
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  1315. @Camiosis Ask Kristine where the almost 200k in donations to her now-defunct charity went. My Jacobs Place was the name. Almost #TwoHundredThousandDollars
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  1316. @camiosis Whatever Pin🤥cchi🤥
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  1317. How the heck would you know they didn’t have a reason to lie? You have no idea what was going on in that dysfunctional home or what someone in the family could have been doing to her. Besides, you’re forgetting the dad confessed they knew she was a child and ditched her anyway
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  1318. The state alleges that the age change motion was fraudulent because they concealed medical evidence from the court. Medical evidence that proves she was a minor.
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  1319. No they didn’t. There was never a single test/x Ray saying she was an adult. The Barnetts lied in their interviews. All the tests /x rays came back saying child. That’s why police pursued them
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  1320. ONLY newborns can be dropped off at a safe have.
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  1321. You missed the latest. Her records were released- birth mom, hospital birth, orphanage, Drs, dentists, a bonafide child then
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  1322. Because they are morons. They’re the same people clamoring to free Joe Exotic. They swallowed Chris Watts bull story too. Pathetic losers incapable of critical thinking
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  1323. Heather Mallard I don’t know upon what basis you conclude Natalia lied about her age. It seems amply clear to me that she is not 30 yrs old today. Yet that is currently what her revised BC says. What a travesty of justice. Denied the appropriate education, which she had a right to (Btw the denial of education actually forms the basis of 1 of the felony counts against the Barnetts. There are 8 counts total against them). I can see why you’d think what you do, because you are operating under false assumptions. The Barnetts adopted Natalia from the Ciccones, using an adoption agency. She went from the Ciccone’s custody to the Barnetts custody. She was never in foster care nor a ward of the state. If you watched ex dad Mike Barnetts interviews you’d see he said she had only been relinquished 5 minutes before Barnetts arrived at the agency and that Ciccones were in the next room. His interviews prove the 30 families Kristine apparently claimed, is a lie. Mike and Kristine, who are divorced, have told contradictory stories. The Barnetts sons have NEVER made a public statement, except for Jacob who ONLY acknowledged that Natalia had lived with them when he was younger. That’s it. No other statements to date. Including NO statements defending his parents, which to me seems odd. Like why wouldn’t he publicly defend them IF they are telling the truth. The Barnetts are currently awaiting trial. They posted bond so are not in custody. With all the evidence the police have amassed it appears to be a slam dunk case for the state. Their charges include neglect which caused great bodily harm. A class 3 felony that carries a potential 20 yr prison term. They are in serious trouble, as they should be.
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  1324. Heather Mallard The Barnetts told the court she was 22 and convinced the judge to order her Bcertificate changed. They lied and concealed evidence. They abandoned a disabled child.
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  1325. They are NOT charged for the time they visited and she had a home care aid. They are charged starting in the LaFayette apt when they moved to Canada and never saw her again
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  1326. The 30 families allegation is provably False. Why Dr Phil chose to perpetuate it is beyond me. But, regardless, actual records & the dads own words prove this is false.
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  1327. You know why? Because they did exactly what they’re accused of doing and that girl, that minor, is the victim
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  1328. They have NOT had a trial yet. Thus, they’ve gotten no jail time. But, seriously, they were not scammed and do deserve a lil time in jail. But they will probably get away with it, like most abusers
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  1329. After watching the new documentary & seeing self described movie buff Michael Barnett, that their claims mirror that movie is not by accident.
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  1330. Her birthdate is Sept 2003. When Barnetts adopted her May 2010 she WAS 6. Dr Phil was filmed Oct 2019, do the math, she was 16. She’s clearly aged from child to young adult
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  1331. There was another update 9-4-20. The dismissal was put on hold, trials on hold, Court of Appeals to decide if any charges get dismissed. No decision yet from Appellate Court https://amp.jconline.com/amp/5715151002
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  1332. @rebelus6 The first thing I read & watched was Kristine’s Daily Mail interview. She lied right out the gate, and I found irrefutable proof of that Easily. So easily, in fact, that it floors me that so few you tubers or journalists have called this out. Then Michael’s numerous interviews only made it worse. These people are liars of epic proportions. Even their claims about their genius son are suspect.
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  1333. @dayrenist YES the dental records prove she was a CHILD. And the pictures prove Barnetts LIED when they said she had all her adult teeth, cause you clearly see baby teeth in Barnett’s pics
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  1334. If you watched the movie you should’ve figured out that’s where the Barnetts got their fantastical alibi from.
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  1335. 3x a yr for 6 years doesn’t equal 30. (Edit-Removed unnecessarily rudeness)
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  1336. That’s exactly the story Barnetts are peddling. It’s absurd.
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  1337. No, just a real life Alibi that plagiarized the movie Orphan
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  1338. Actually, according to the Barnetts age change court motion that Kristine leaked, the allegations of violence was violence AGAINST Natalia. In fact, rather than be concerned like Normal parents would be, they said her detailed allegations of abuse was a sign she was an adult. That sickened the heck out of me when I read what Barnetts wrote in their motion. Think about it. Their adopted daughter TELLS THEM she was previously abused, and their response is along the lines of “Thats an awe full lot of detail, you must be an adult”.
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  1339. It’s really pathetic that the child abusers have you bashing their victim for them.
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  1340.  @mikontisott  Discovery is sharing the evidence with the opposing party. It doesn’t mean the evidence is admitted in the trial.
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  1341.  @camiosis9024  I Can’t wait for Kristy’s Contempt hearing. FYI the MI Dr said she had open growth plates. Est her age as 13-14 in 2017. These facts will be very important when the Civil suit rolls round
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  1342.  @camiosis9024  Her doctor explained why she could not get approval for her surgery. It was based upon the doctors PHYSICAL findings. You can try to spin that, but you won’t be successful
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  1343.  @camiosis9024  Per the police affidavit her orthopedic surgeon explained that they couldn’t get approval for her surgery because her legal age did not match her physical age. So the Barnetts are responsible for that. These utter degenerates didn’t care that she was in pain because of them and their fraudulent age change. That’s some heartless parents right there. I hope they are enjoying reaping what they sown. Can’t wait to hear the excuses Kristy offers for violating the gag order 🍿
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  1344.  @camiosis9024  Sounds like more fiction from Kristy. The orders are published. As for the DNA test the prosecution requested, it was done and it was a match. FIVE counts remain & Kristy’s violation🍿
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  1345.  @camiosis9024  Trials set for Sept & Oct, PLUS the bonus of a May hearing because Kristine violated the gag order. Cha Ching! How many thousands is this costing?😂🤣😂
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  1346. You don’t get it. It is over. After a 5yr investigation there was finally enough evidence to prove this kid was a child all along. Barnetts did exactly what they are accused of
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  1347. Perhaps you don’t understand the science. They cannot tell exactly how old a prehistoric person was when they died. In this case, they determined enough to know unequivocally she was a minor.
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  1348. Natalia’s needs were interfering with Jacobs rising star. You can’t tour the world if you have to stay home taking care of a child needing multiple surgeries. You also can’t claim to be parenting experts if you dissolve a finalized adoption. So Natalia had to go, but in a way that Barnetts could conceal from the public.
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  1349. The police certainly can prove she was a minor when the Barnetts abandoned her. That’s the crux of the case and the charges have not been dismissed, nay, they’ve added additional counts. This wasn’t a rush to judgement. The investigation spanned over 5 years. Not only that but Michael Barnett confessed. They’ve certainly tried to muddy the waters with all these ripped from a movie script defenses. But at the end of the day, they left a defenseless child in an apartment and skedaddled to Canada. To reference their religiousness as some kind of proof of their innocence? Well look around at all the church child abuse cases and you’ll discover that wrongdoers love to cloak themselves with pious words. Note, the Barnetts have divorced and I’m pretty sure that’s not something that any religion condones. You say their other sons are doing well? Says who? One has, the other 2 appear to be floundering. Maybe that’s cause, as Kristine wrote in her book, the youngest 2 graduated home school high school at ages 10&12. Kinda hard to do well when your education ends before you’re even a teenager. Not what anyone would consider stellar parenting. Another thing, if they are such great parents, why is Michael estranged from his sons? They don’t see him or even talk to him. That’s a giant red flag. What the heck was going on in that family? Looks like Natalia wasn’t the only one who’s been harmed.
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  1350. The prosecution contends the age change was fraudulently obtained because the Barnetts withheld the medical findings and dental findings, and it was done to conceal the fact they were abandoning a minor child. Further, that Natalia’s age was already established by law when the Barnetts adopted her in Hamilton Co. and the Marion Co. judge did not have authority to change her age. Any changes to their adoption decree should have occurred in the county she was adopted in (which was Hamilton). Additionally that the age change was done without legislation granting that power and certainly without due process as the judge did not hold a Hearing on the age change motion. He simply signed their request into order without testimony, without meeting Natalia, without her being notified and without her being represented by counsel. Add to this the fact the medical and dental x rays proved she was a child and her birth mother proves she was born 2003. This is Why.
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  1351.  @jeremypiper4309  Well lucky for you there’s no money on the line, caused you’d lose betting that she is an adult.
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  1352. They had her Ukrainian birth certificate. They also had a copy of the 1st adopters adoption decree (the people who adopted & brought her here). But managed to get her age changed.
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  1353. Oh, come on. Their story is stolen from a movie. These people are crazy. That kid was only 4 years old when the Ciccones brought her here. Kindergarten. No way was she secretly 18
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  1354. She really was 16 here (17 now). Her birth mother has provided original documentation to prove it. All her concealed medical & dental records prove it too. Pics of her missing front tooth too
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  1355. In 2012 they fraudulently got her age changed from 8 to 22 then stuck her in an apartment all alone. They escaped justice for 7 years with their novel scheme. They’re bad people
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  1356. Yes. But I saw Halloween, too, and I don’t think Michael Myers is real either
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  1357. livelife lovelife She wasn’t ever in foster care. Barnetts adopted her from the 1st family who utilized an agency to find her new parents. Too bad she got Barnetts
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  1358. Do you think that when a parent beats a child to death? Do you think the child must have done something really really bad to merit severe punishment?
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  1359. Sounds like you’re talking about Kristine Barnett. She reminds me of Dee Dee Blanchard, the loony mother of Gypsy Rose. Just as Dee Dee’s lies caught up with her, so have Kristine’s.
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  1360.  @betterdeadthanred5433  You OBVIOUSLY have not read ANY of the actual documents associated with this case. Barnetts were charged BECAUSE the medical & dental x rays proved she was a child.
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  1361. Yea forge many many documents, pay off official, sneak by immigration, get to the US, have a family, so you can...kill ‘em all. lol. Makes sense 🤣
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  1362. It’s neglect because they are liars. She was a child. They lied just like Gypsy Rose’s mom lied about her. Like Gabriel Fernandez mom lied about him. Lying abusers.
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  1363. Check out the bl og then decide who old you think she is. Justice for Natalia Grace
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  1364. It actually isn’t true that she scammed them. They were arrested after the dad admitted she was a child when they left her. The med & dental x rays they concealed prove it
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  1365.  @camiosis9024  Returned her to adoption agency? 😂 Where’d she sleep? In the closet?😂A friend of Ciccones talked? Lol Is that what Kristine is telling you spark families?? Dream on
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  1366.  @error4794  I gave you the date of the reporting and the news organization that reported on the court hearing that revealed the birth mom was confirmed by DNA. The rest you can read in the court documents. You’ll discover she was NOT in foster care. Barnetts adopted from the 1st fam, the Ciccones. You’ll also read the med and dental evidence that proves she was a minor. It took a 5yr investigation to put the case together. The Barnetts did exactly what they’re accused of
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  1367.  @error4794  Which ones? The confirmation of the birth mom was revealed in open court by the prosecutor. It was reported on 8-27-2020 in the Journal and Courier by the journalist who was there
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  1368.  @Aimellow87  Thats not true. She was only adopted once before and was in their custody until they delivered her to the barbaric Barnetts
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  1369. Her age was genuine until the despicable Barnetts changed it
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  1370.  James Omar  I just hope they don’t find out that George Soros is funding our group. Ssshhh!
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  1371. @M A I feel sorry for your parents that they have such an imbecile for a child.
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  1372. Dr Phil is an idiot for repeating the “30 families” allegation as if it was true. She wasn’t with 30 families. She was in the custody of her original family til they placed her in Barnetts custody for adoption
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  1373. Do you wanna change places with her? She’s not just small. She has issues in almost every joint in her body. Her feet look like they were bound (like China used to do). She legs are twisted. Her spine is shaped like an S and it pushes on her lungs and constricts her breathing. She is in pain which is getting worse. YOU wouldn’t last 1 day living like she does. But she struggles through with a smile on her face and the most inspiring positive outlook.
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  1374. The Orphan is not a true story, but it was inspired by a wholly different story that bears no resemblance to the movie. Look up Barbora Skrlova. Daughter of a cult leader, assisted by cult members
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  1375. Definitely was 6 in 2010 when they adopted her https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1376. If it was true she “almost killed them” then she would have been arrested and in juvie. She wasn’t. Thus, It’s obviously the lies of criminal defendants trying to avoid prison
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  1377. They’re trying to preemptively discredit her. That’s what abusers do. Tell their story first, so when the victim starts disclosing their true account is questioned. Abuse then accuse. Classic
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  1378. “Eyes don’t lie”- What does that even mean? You know what Really doesn’t lie- X rays. She had skeletal & dental proving she was a kid
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  1379. @TheKidHastin Gee, perhaps you shouldn’t believe something just because Joe says it. Just a thought. Rogan’s piece aired Nov 22, 2019. Here’s reporting on the case from March 2020. Natalia and her parents, the Mans, were accused by Kristine of violating the gag order. The judge ruled that they did NOT. And if this reporting fails to convince you that they are still a family, you could always go to their faceB pages. Photos w/Natalia posted this month. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/03/04/adopted-daughter-natalia-grace-barnett-did-not-violate-gag-order-neglect-case-judge-rules/4956658002/
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  1380. TheKidHastin No dumbo. She still lives with them, like she has since 2013.
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  1381. Yes BOTH of them!! Kristine AND Michael
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  1382. The new parents didn’t change her age. The Barnetts did that. The Barnetts are in the wrong.
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  1383. The 3 sons are Barnetts biological children. They are estranged from the dad and haven’t spoken to him in years. Maybe things were never idyllic in their home.
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  1384.  @beep216  Orig there were 8 charges. Half were dropped due to Statute of Limitations. The rest were based on neglect of an adult dependent because the 2012 age change meant they couldn’t be prosecuted for child neglect. Then even tho they ditched her in 2013, they could only be charged for crimes that happened starting in 2014. But by 2014 she was already rescued by the new family so she wasn’t in a dangerous situation anymore. Being acquitted is not being proven innocent. She was a child and they stuck her alone in an apartment.
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  1385. He wasn’t proven innocent. He benefited from the Statute of Limitations. He escaped criminal liability, but still did it
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  1386. Those people are degenerates and you fell for it. They can’t even keep their stories straight. Arrested cause ACTUAL evidence shows what they did.
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  1387. She was medically & dentally examined with x rays. The tests all said she was a child. The Barnetts concealed those tests to get her age changed. Did you know the judge didn’t even hold a hearing before transforming an 8 yr old into a 22 yr old? You would think it would be a lengthy process, with experts called and meeting the child accused of being an adult. But that didn’t happen. It’s stunning something like this occurs. Not 1 or 2 or 3 years added, but 14 years, with no oversight whatsoever
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  1388.  @GlennaVan  Yes .They went to FL, met the first adoptive parents & her at the adoption agency, brought her home (May 2010), finalized the adoption Nov 2010. Prior to finalization the Barnetts were not her legal parents and could have changed their minds and backed out easily. (Edit- corrected typo on year)
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  1389. The video’s incomplete. They had her 6 months THEN finalized the adoption & became her legal parents, which isn’t rapid. A con artist would’ve cleaned out their bank then yeeted
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  1390. Not after this is done. The concealed records proving she was a child have been uncovered
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  1391. @Aastha vv Cause Natalia stood in the way of their golden child’s rise to fame. They never loved her anyway & didn’t want to dedicate their lives to her. They wanted out of the adoption but with their reputations intact. Evil people frankly
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  1392. Even simpler, there is no scam. Barnetts are lying.
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  1393. @ky She didn’t have a cycle. That’s a lie. She IS a child, now 17. There’s no question any longer.
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  1394. Her entire history IS known. Including that her birth mother was located and confirmed her date of birth was 2003. She was a real child, dumped after having her age fraudulently changed
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  1395. She’s been living with the Mans for 7 years, And??? Nothing. They’re still advocating for her, still loving her and raising her as their daughter. Meanwhile Barnett sons want nothing to do w/Michael
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  1396. Incorrect. The tests confirmed she was a minor. This is why these degenerates are facing 20yrs in prison
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  1397. No it didn’t. The one in 2010 said about 8. The one in 2012 said about 11. Of course Barnetts lie and claim the doctors said something different.
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  1398. @James Omar A few of these posters pretended a neutral position, but they definitely had an agenda from Day 1. Day 1. They were just more crafty about it. Every word designed to manipulate other readers into thinking they were simply trying to understand or “bee fair”, but really it was all an act with one purpose, one goal, that is to defend the Barnetts. Transparent AF.
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  1399.  @jaysonb.6669  “This is how justice is dispensed in this country— with checkbooks” (From the movie Flash of Genius, about Robert Kearns, inventor of intermittent windshield wipers)
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  1400.  James Omar  That’s exactly what it was.
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  1401.  James Omar  Yes, Cynthia did post that caption with a photo of Natalia AFTER the Barnetts called Natalia an evil psycho. It was a fu to Barnetts. I laughed to read Bee’s take on it
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  1402.  @beewoke  There is an ongoing appeal over whether the judge was correct in dismissing the charges that were based upon her age. The judge stayed his dismissal and put the case on hold. The Appeals court has assumed jurisdiction and will decide if the state gets to argue she was really a child. Which seems to be the only fair way to decide this once and for all. Let both sides present their evidence and let the jury decide if she was a child and if she was neglected. If the state loses the appeal then they can only argue she was dependent because of her disability (not because of her age) and that they neglected her.
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  1403.  @beewoke  Coached? Wait, Barnetts are claiming she is an adult scammer. So if you believe their story, clearly she isn’t coached. You statement is incongruous. Kids are coached. Not adults. If she is a kid, like her doctors and dentists and birth mother say, then what does it matter how anyone “looked”.
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  1404.  @123leemur  It’s fascinating how much your thoughts effect your perception. Seeing something that doesn’t exist because of your bias against the girl.
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  1405.  @clairebeane3455  She went from baby teeth to adult teeth. She went from baby chest to having breasts. She grew taller. You must not have seen the earliest photos.
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  1406. Sure thing Juanita, older than her. Birth mother. Stop the presses, it’s a miracle
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  1407. Read what 2 real medical doctors said. They are specialists from a respected children’s hospital https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1408. AllOutWar76 My bad. You said your abuser denied abusing you. Which implies you must be a sociopath for making the “false” allegation. But it wasn’t false. It was true. Yes words on the internet are easy. As shown by all the harsh words and approbations for the Barnett’s victim. I didn’t mean to imply any weakness in a victim who does breakdown and publicly show their pain. I, however, chose not to, and was at a place in my life whereby I was capable of making a choice. Perhaps Natalia is too.
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  1409. Sociopath? Isn’t that exactly what your abuser claimed about you?? And it was a lie when your abuser said that, wasn’t it? The Barnetts are lying too. Like all abusers. I personally wouldn’t give my abuser the satisfaction of seeing me broken and blubbering on national television. She did cry, though, if you saw the whole episode. But having super loving good parents for the last 6+ years has helped her heal.
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  1410. No way was she an adult. You probably haven’t seen the video from the DePauls https://youtu.be/D9dH4_JWeRc
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  1411.  @LordHaveMurcielago  Let me consult my Magic 8 Ball.............................................................................It said “Ask again later”
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  1412. Would that have changed your mind? If Natalia took a polygraph and passed?
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  1413. No accent is weird? Why? Cause some bug eyed fool acted like it was ?
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  1414. She was relinquished at birth, not found on the street. They know exactly who she is & how old. Her birth mom was DNA confirmed. She was born 2003. Barnetts are losers
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  1415. When people get bad service at a restaurant they leave a bad review or YELP. Yet here the Barnetts claim an adoption agency gave them a psychotic adult that the agency passed off as a 6 year old and they NEVER mention the name of the agency. Not once in ALL the interviews to they say the name of the agency. Why not??? Wouldn’t they WANT the agency name out there to see if there’s other victims of this rogue agency, at the very least? And really, wouldn’t they have sued the agency for lying to them and putting their children at risk? I really am interested in you thinking about that and sharing your opinion. I saw your other comments and you sound like you’ve given this case a lot of thought. (Just so you know, the agency was revealed in court filings and it’s called Adoptions by Shepherd Care).
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  1416. You need glasses ma’am. That’s a young lady, turning 18 later this year
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  1417. Her earliest medical records showed doctors had to use a translator. Which meant she spoke to the translator in her mother tongue. This is a proven fact, unlike the Barnetts aCcUSaTiOns.
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  1418. Hmmm, why would child abusers lie about their victim? That’s a conundrum alright.
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  1419. Lol Yeah she’s been with the Mans almost 8 years now. Don’t hold your breath waiting for the meltdown that isn’t coming. I’m wondering what Mike Barnett did to his sons to make them ignore him
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  1420.  @camiosis9024  lol “Ask my parents” from a 20yr old man 😂😂😂 Yea, he knows they did exactly as they’re accused of
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  1421. The Barnett boys are staying far away from this travesty their loser parents created, cause they know they are guilty AF. If the Barnetts were innocent the sons would be defending them
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  1422. skyniquee Why would Phil need to take her in? She’s been a part of the Mans family for over 6yrs. No crazy behavior, perfectly normal. 6+ years. Barnetts are lying cause they got arrested
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  1423. Get help. You sound like a disaster
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  1424.  @Sunny-sf1no  YW
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  1425. The medical & dental professionals DID determine approximately how old she was. That’s why the parents were arrested. Because she actually was a child when they re-aged then dumped her
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  1426. I believe Natalia. I think the DePauls (the little people family) going public in her defense was very persuasive with the photos & documents they shared
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  1427. No the Mans haven’t left her, you ding dong.
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  1428. The cops and the prosecution aren’t confused. Only the Barnetts who thought they committed the perfect crime. You know ex dad confessed, right?
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  1429. She wasn’t with 30 families. As with almost everything about this case, it’s was just another Barnett lie. She was in the custody of her 1st adoptive parents until they delivered her to Barnetts.
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  1430.  @j-r-m7775  Besides it just being a fantastical story that’s not believable on its face? From about reading the med & dental findings that they withheld from the court. A full skeletal survey in 2012 estimated her age as 11. X rays don’t lie. She had open growth plates. Adults don’t have growth plates. 2 different dentists also took x rays. 2011 & 2012, one said 8-9yr, other 6-9yrs. That’s a child. The dad admitted it (denies it now) but this supports that the dads confession was a true confession.
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  1431. She got caught?? Lol. No, sorry, it’s the child neglecting, court defrauding, poor excuse for adoptive parents who got caught, arrested and charged
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  1432.  @RED-my9hl  Yeah well no one agreed with Copernicus at first either
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  1433.  @RED-my9hl  Sure they’re comparable in that you’d have to be stupid to think the Earth is flat just like you’d have to be stupid to think she’s an adult.
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  1434.  @RED-my9hl  How can something that isn’t true be “obvious”. It is not true that she is an adult. You might as well say it’s obvious the world is flat
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  1435.  @RED-my9hl  You must have your own set of facts, not the actual facts. I live in the real world, where child abusers are publicly chastised and victims are supported.
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  1436.  @camiosis9024  I’m not disagreeing with you. Natalia has been a legal adult since June 2012 when the Barnutts succeeded in having her official birth certificate amended from 2003 to 1989. If they had ditched her in 2011 they would still face age related neglect charges because her birth year was changed until June 2012. Actually, they might still face those charges because the court of appeals hasn’t made a ruling yet. Until then, ALL charges are still pending, Pinocchiosis🤥
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  1437.  @camiosis9024  YES!! Legal Technicalities!!! EXACTLY what I’ve been saying, Pinocchiosis. Chronologically it is now proven than she is 17. But legally she’s 31, so they might get away with it. Well, at least get away with not having a Criminal sanction imposed. But Socially? Yea, they are paying the price, as they should. Forever tarnished by what they did to that poor little girl. Financially? Absolutely. Kristine is paying 3 whole lawyers!! So happy about that!! I bet the speaking engagements have dried up, too. Well, she earn that by what she did. Civilly? That remains to be seen.
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  1438.  @camiosis9024  Keep Spamming. I love Spam. Who wants ham-n-eggs when you can have spam-n-eggs?
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  1439.  @camiosis9024  🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿Yea? Uh huh? Really? Ya don’t say? Wow? Keep it coming Pinocchiosis
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  1440.  @camiosis9024  Ooh You came up with a lie real swift, Pinocchio 🤥!! This is so entertaining 🍿What’s next? Up is down? Or water is dry? Lol
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  1441.  @camiosis9024  Here, educate yourself on maternity DNA testing. You sure are slow, Pinocchio https://www.lbgenetics.com/what-is-a-dna-maternity-test/
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  1442. @Camiosis Hilarious Pinocchi🤥
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  1443. @Camiosis Well Kristine does have 1 thing that I don’t have—An arrest record! Bah ha ha. Have fun with Kristy in your little Facebook group! Spark it up!! Lol
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  1444. What are you talking about? She’s never lied about her age. She was 6 when Barnetts adopted her in 2010. She was 16 on the show, and is 17 now. Her birth mother has confirmed her age
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  1445.  @camiosis9024  You’re lying, Pinocchiosis
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  1446.  @usamaahmedmangi2217  I get what you’re saying. But the question is wrong for a different reason. It’s wrong because she’s the victim here
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  1447. How do you abandon a disabled child and get the public to support you? If you’re the Barnetts, you go on a character assassination tour and tell lies about your victim.
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  1448. He’s not the one who confessed to leaving a disabled child all alone, knowing she was a child. He’s the good dad who takes care of his kids
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  1449. The Mans have 4 other kids. They say she’s a great big sister to the 2 younger ones. You can tell they all love her a lot. Barnetts are crazy liars.
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  1450. No, Shame on YOU Nancy Howard. Taking the side of the abusing Barnetts despite the great weight of the evidence against them.
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  1451.  @Janellabelle  Instead, Barnetts took her home to Indiana, saw at least 1 doctor, waited the statutory 6 months, then went before the judge and sealed the deal (finalized it !!).
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  1452. I believe her. The authorities believe her because they have medical records, dental records, immigration records, and a confession from the dad
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  1453. This has already been done. She had extensive testing at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital in 2010 & 2012. She was a child.
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  1454. She’s almost grown up. She’s 16 here. Since the show her birth mom’s been DNA confirmed. BM has the original hospital records. She def gave birth to her in 2003. The parents pulled a fast one.
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  1455. There’s another story here you might find interesting. Kristine Barnett started a non profit back in the day. In 3 yrs she took in almost Two Hundred Thousand dollars. Then the money was gone and they were too, to Canada. There’s a story here I think.
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  1456.  @michaelkaba7481  I was just curious. I had good experiences in college with the bulk of my professors. Professionally, I was a pharmaceutical sales rep for years and spent my days talking to medical doctors. My experiences have led me to hold much different opinions than yours. So I was curious. As for Dr Phil, I’m not a fan. But he did get it right when he said there was no way Natalia was the age the Barnetts claim she is. Personally, I was disgusted at the way Dr Oz pandered to Michael Barnett. As a medical doctor he should know better. It was appalling
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  1457. How do you feel about vaccines?
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  1458. When you were 18 could you pass for 4 yrs old? Cause that’s what the Barnetts claim. They claim she’s 14yrs older than her BC said. So when she was 1st adopted by Ciccones, she was 18?!? No way
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  1459. Fascinating. What would an innocent person say??
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  1460.  @RalphVB  Apparently you haven’t read the publicly available police probable cause affidavit which said he (the detective) found her (Natalia) to be Credible. So your opinion is in opposition to the trained professionals. What do you make of that?
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  1461. There isn’t a right way or wrong way to react. It’s foolish of you to think that. If they had any evidence of her doing these things she’d have been arrested back then or stuck in juvie. Barnetts are lying
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  1462. How about the Barnetts?
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  1463. Did you know a dentist took x rays in 2011 & said she was btwn 8-9? A diff dentist in 2012 took more x rays said 6-9? Growth plate analysis in 2017 said 13-14?
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  1464. No need for pseudoscience when there’s hard science, skeletal & dental x rays which cannot be faked. She is 16 here
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  1465. No, she’s telling the truth. Even her birth mother was located and DNA tested. Her records prove N as born 2003
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  1466. Interesting you bring up the cops, since the ex dad actually confessed.
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  1467. Frankly I’m wondering how some of these adult commenters survive. With such a complete lack of intelligence and overwhelming naïveté, to believe such a preposterous story from Barnetts
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  1468. Considering the cops have her medical and dental records that prove she was a child, why contact agency? I did read the DePauls provided very helpful info to the cops, to defend her
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  1469. That must have sucked. Sorry you went through that. You should know, however, that Natalia was not in foster care. She was adopted then dumped after they fraudulently changed her age.
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  1470. 4 charges were dismissed due to the Statute of Limitations. 4 charges remain Plus an added accusation that Kristy violated the gag order being adjudicated in May.
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  1471. Don’t tell Sherin Mathews how benevolent adoptive parents are. She won’t hear you. She’s dead. Her parents killed her about a year after traveling from Texas to India to adopt her
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  1472. Plenty of tests were done. They all said she was a child
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  1473. Yes, they blurred only the pics of her at age 6 & 7. The others are with the new family and shes 15 in some. So ABC is withholding pics which show an obvious child w Baby Teeth, to profit off her
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  1474. She still had a mouthful of baby teeth back then. Despite their claim otherwise, the photos show the truth. They’re also the only ones who claim she had a period, no proof
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  1475. Yes, child abuse is so funny
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  1476. In the beginning people kept saying “find her real parents then we’ll know”. Real mom found. STILL not enough for ‘em
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  1477. Save Ferris!
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  1478. Yea putative bio M is Ukrainian. Obviously. That’s where Natalia was born and lived before she was adopted.
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  1479. Sarah Osborne Check out the blog. There’s a ton of information and will answer those questions https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1480. @Hubert Finley Yea, there’s a whole lotta people having fun at this kids expense.
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  1481. @Robert Gass So they hired an attorney and went to court to change her age. But NOT to void the adoption? Or sue cause they were defrauded? Why is that? Oh, I know. If they tried that they would have actually had to have a trial. There would have been an opposing party. There would have been discovery!! That’s why they didn’t. This age change malarkey happened Ex Parte. The judge never even saw Natalia. She wasn’t even represented by an attorney or a GAL. She had no due process.
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  1482. @Robert Gass If that were true they would have gone to court to void the adoption and sue the agency. They didn’t.
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  1483. In this case it was an innocent child who was adopted by “satan reptilians”
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  1484. @James Omar Cam alert. 😂
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  1485.  Duzzie Ashigana  Google is Wikipedia? Lol this is quite entertaining
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  1486.  Duzzie Ashigana  Learn to read friendo. I said Google
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  1487.  @annabenezue5624  Normally that would be a compliment for a 16 yr old, but you don’t mean it as a compliment. You speak like you’re 19/20. How’s my guess?
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  1488.  @MrsSlocombesPuddyCat  Naw, a chair or step stool isn’t high enough for her to reach the top of the fridge. She is that small. So unless they kept an actual 6’ ladder in the kitchen...
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  1489.  @mcdonaldfries3111  They hide the pencils? The screwdrivers? Gosh they say she’s an adult who managed to forge documents, get here from Ukraine. But she can’t get a knife? 😂
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  1490.  @miemie3308  The doctor didn’t say that, only the parents. But the mom that was bathing her 5 months before said No she didn’t. I believe her over Barnetts. She came over at 4 not speaking Eng
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  1491. She was a child. Her birth mother has been confirmed by DNA. N was born in 2003 like her original birth certificate said. It is a travesty what has happened to this poor kid (17 now)
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  1492.  @MartineH1  There’s so much info in this case that I don’t know which judge, what experts and what materials you’re referring to. Could you be more specific?
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  1493. Now that it’s proven Natalia was a child, every one should be asking how in the world was it legal to change a child’s age by FOUR TEEN YEARS. That should NOT be legal.
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  1494. Neither one, I vote the old family and anyone stupid enough to believe their oRpHAn alibi
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  1495. Considering that she is Still their legal daughter couldn’t she still arrange to be the only beneficiary?? Yet in 7 years nothing has happened to them. Even when she lived there no one was injured.
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  1496.  @ObsidianElohim  N is not an adult. She is 17 yrs old today.
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  1497. Stop projecting your sick fantasies onto a good man
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  1498. @Angela Crouch My son scored 2 standard deviations above the norm on the Wechsler, so I, too, am familiar with gifted teens. He talks more like an adult than a teen. In Natalia’s situation, because of the age change, she hasn’t attended school with her peers in almost a decade. I wouldn’t expect she would sound like average teen.
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  1499. @Angela Crouch She does sound mature. And VERY intelligent too. But not unlike other teens with high IQ’s. Too bad they only tested Jacob’s IQ. I’m betting hers is above 120
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  1500. A master con artist, document forger, adult passing successfully as a kindergartner, tries to k1ll the golden goose? A con artist would empty their bank acct and skip town
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  1501.  @EyeOvdaTiger  Society looks down on adoptive parents who “change their minds” after calling a girl their daughter for 2 yrs. Giving her to the state would have become public knowledge (as opposed to how the age chng was done in secret). It would have upset the book deal & movie deal
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  1502. They wanted to go to Canada for son to go to college there. But in 2012 Canada wasn’t allowing a potential heavy user of their free healthcare to migrate. Canada would not have accepted Natalia. So they wanted a way to leave her but make it look like her fault, as opposed to them looking like terrible people leaving the disabled adopted kid behind.
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  1503.  Trevor B. Perez  Some people are still believing that Australian 9 yr old with dwarfism was an “adult scammer”. Open season on dwarves these days, apparently. Disgusting
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  1504. Get real. There’s pictures of this kid with her missing baby teeth for crying out loud. She was a child. She looked like a child. Adults don’t change like that.
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  1505. Well she’s been with the Mans since 2013, so clearly not the maniac Barnetts tried to portray her as
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  1506. Phil is definitely something. Natalia wasn’t ever in foster care. There weren’t 30 families. When the 1st family couldn’t care for her they looked for a new family and let her meet/spend time with the DePauls. But then they decided against DePauls. Later Ciccones utilized the adoption agency and Barnetts were selected. Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones, not from foster care. The Barnetts themselves say so. But at least Phil was right about her not being the age Barnetts claim. She was genuinely a child when they ditched her
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  1507. They do have her original birth certificate. She was born Sept 2003. She was never in foster care. They adopted her from the 1st adoptive family. She’s 17 now. She was 6 in 2010
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  1508. The opposite has been proven. Even her birth mother was located, who isn’t old enough to have a 33yr old kid
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  1509. Kinda sus that none of the 3 Barnett boys have said anything to defend their parents. 2 are over 18, 1 still lives in Canada. Probably hoping their friends & co-workers don’t know it’s their parents
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  1510. MsCynful6 Well I guess US immigration sucks too. They let in a 4 yr old who was really 18. The drs at Payton Manning must suck too, they determined she was a child. Don’t forget the 2 dentists who also said she was a child, those morons. Worst of all was that Michael Barnett. What was he thinking when he apparently falsely confessed. The prosecution has stacks of actual evidence, but they’re idiots and Kristine’s fantastical stories are true. lol
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  1511. BioMom PROVES that the child IS a child. Barnutts days are numbered. Court of appeals is not going to rubber stamp a PROVEN fraudulent age change.
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  1512. @camiosis Post the proof of your claims about CICCONES. Should be easy if you’re telling the truth.
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  1513. @camiosis Some people can’t tell the truth—Like you #PINOCCHIO
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  1514. @camiosis Post what you’re claiming about the 1st family and purported records that pre-date 2003!!!!!!! Can’t do that, can you liar???
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  1515. The adoption is “suspect” because...the criminal defendants say so??? Don’t be so gullible
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  1516. Their son wasn’t famous when they adopted her. They devoted themselves to him & neglected her. CPS was up their azz, at least 3 known reports. They needed to get rid of the evidence and turn themselves into the victims. They hoped the age change would lead to her having her citizenship revoked and get deported. Their plan failed. So they ditched her where no one who knew her had any idea and skeedaddled out of the country.
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  1517. You got it all wrong. But the truth is out now. The bio mom confirmed by DNA. All the documentation adds up. Undeniably born 2003. The legal system is catching up.
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  1518. Somethings amiss, but not with her
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  1519. “Bone marrow”?? Omg. Can you even walk and chew gum at the same time?
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  1520. Or the wife’s plot. But he foiled the plan by dumping her and the sons in Canada only 5 months after they moved there, skipped back to Indiana, divorced her & accused her of abusing him! (Dude was a blabbermouth on faceB. He really did ditch the rest of his family after 5 months and really did accuse wifey of abusing him)
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  1521. You can’t handle the truth https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1522. What’s scary to me is that these people get to tell a fantastical, phony on its face, story, and get any kind of support whatsoever. Let a girl cry R4p3 and people tear her story apart. These knuckldraggers claims the disabled kid is a murderous secret adult and it’s “Poor family”
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  1523. @Jessie Davis She was tested. Extensively. Barnetts concealed those records from the judge who changed her age (from 8 to 22, in 2012). Now her BioMom has been located, DNA tested, is only 40, has all the documentation that proves she was a child and born in 2003 despite the legal age change to 1989. This is going to the court of appeals because the current judge just ruled to dismiss the age related neglect charges (2 disability related charges remain) because the age change made her an adult.
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  1524. Why would they put her in an apartment if she was some psycho wanna be killer? Instead of going to police? Why didn’t they sue the adoption agency if they were lied to about her age? THEIR behavior makes no sense at all. They’re lying
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  1525. @Issy YourBoo Have you looked at her hands? She has hitchhikers thumb and joint deformities. She can barely hold a pencil, let alone a knife.
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  1526. Sorry to disappoint you, but a simple google search would have prevented you from making this mistake. The movie wasn’t even a real story. Just inspired by a cultist Barbora Skrlova
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  1527. From what I have read, Yes they were told as well as given a list of her needed future surgeries and they agreed.
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  1528. So there ya have it. Ukrainian BioMom confirmed by DNA. Wasn’t Michael on Dr Oz saying he didn’t think she was even from Ukraine?? Claiming she didn’t have an accent like it was suspicious? Lol
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  1529.  @gunaraj1082  There’s an age old bias against people with disability or disfigurement. Very similar to racism. She’s not being judged fairly by many.
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  1530.  @jennyyy78  Michael definitely claimed she was standing over them. He’s a liar
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  1531.  @jennyyy78  A 2 ft tall kid couldn’t stand over them while they slept. It’s an obvious lie
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  1532.  @camiosis9024  Maybe get Jakey to tutor you on subtraction? Or do you call that “take aways”?🤣 Eight takeaway three equals 5. Keep practicing. Use your fingers👋👋. You can do it. 5 felony counts left
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  1533.  @camiosis9024  I reckon 32 is probably correct for your IQ
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  1534. Being smart makes you older? Uh oh watch out Jacob Barnett
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  1535. @frankenclouds !! Then it should mean something that she’s been w/the Mans since 2013 w/no issues; the DePauls similarly had no issues w/her
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  1536. frankenclouds !! The criminal defendants made a lot of unfounded accusations. Pretty typical of abusers to try to blame their victim
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  1537. @IckleSharpie456 Yes it did happen. DePaul family has gone public with photos and documents. Barnetts are huge liars
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  1538. Ladenna Young She’s been with the Mans family since August of 2013. With zero issues. That tells it’s the Barnetts who are scamming.
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  1539. @Mood Swings It’s the Mans footage. It was on their faceB.
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  1540. @Mood Swings The clip of Natalia saying Happy Thanksgiving is from the Mans video. Lol. OBVIOUSLY no one is saying she’s 6 in that clip, well except You.
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  1541. @Mood Swings Yea, sure
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  1542. Her dental exams in 2011 & 2012 said she was between 8&9 and 6&9, respectively.
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  1543. That’s misinformation. Some charges were dropped due to the Statute of Limitations. The remaining 4 felony charges are neglect r/t disability. Trials in Sept &Oct
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  1544. Most adults cannot comprehend narcissism or people that have a complete lack of morality & human empathy. How is a teenager supposed to explain the Barnetts subhuman reasoning?
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  1545. Do you understand why their adoption was not nullified? Why she wasn’t stripped of her citizenship & deported? It’s a very simple answer. She was a child. Maybe you prefer conspiracies over the simple truth. The Barnetts are not good people
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  1546. She’ll be in jail sometime between pigs flying and hell freezing over. Barnetts will hopefully be in jail by Sept
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  1547. @James Fadden He definitely is. I’m a fan of his, too
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  1548. You wish you were Elon. And now it’s proven her original birth certificate was correct since the bio mom was just revealed confirmed by DNA
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  1549. Not every adoptive parent adopts for good reasons. The Barnetts sure didn’t. They were being investigated by CPS. The age change got them out of it. Money was HER SSI
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  1550. The parents lied about the testing she had. The testing actually showed she was a child. A full skeletal survey looking at her growth plates. FYI Adults don’t have growth plates
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  1551. @alex moore You’re welcome. It’s so very sad. Literally from day 1 this kid was treated like a second class citizen. So many agencies dropped the ball. Now after all the abuse heaped upon her, she’s being defamed and bullied on line. Thankfully the Barnetts are being held accountable after all these years. But it will never give her her childhood back. The normal education denied her will scar her forever. Worse still the denial of the necessary surgeries that Barnetts were informed of and agreed to obtain. She has a lot more problems than mere short stature. Her physical condition has deteriorated and she’s in constant pain every day. Because of them. Their need to maintain their “super parents of a genius prodigy” reputation. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing.
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  1552. alex moore The police saw the results of the endocrinologist and the skeletal survey analyzing her growth plates. Both said she was a child. Oh, and ex dad admitted it. Here’s the proof https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1553. A FIVE year investigation says the Barnetts are the evil doers.
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  1554. You know who made an admission? Dad Michael! He admitted to the detective that she was in fact a child when they left her behind and moved to Canada. It’s in the police sworn affidavit.
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  1555. Yup she has dwarfism. That’s why her age was estimated by growth disorder specialists who all said she was a minor child.
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  1556. @Neha Shredtha There’s nothing creepy about her. It’s all in your head because the bought the Barnetts bull story.
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  1557. The “why” is subject to hypothesis. The “what” is not. Not since her birth mother was confirmed by DNA and her documents match the birth date Barnetts were provided. She was born in 2003
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  1558. Here’s the link https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  1559. J & C reported in Dec that detective uncovered prior dental records. In 2011 est age as btwn 8-9; 2012 est age btwn 6-9.
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  1560. Just use your eye detectors. Look at her photos with the little people family, the DePauls, compared to now
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  1561. @gwen sheng It was all fake. Mike posted on his faceB back in 2016 that Kristine was EVIL and that She abused & controlled him. Said 2 dif therapists confirmed it. Said he’d been in therapy for 4 YEARS because of Kristine (not Natalia)
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  1562. At 16 her nose is fully grown. Nothing different or unexpected about that
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  1563.  @gibzy2004  It’s not merely my opinion, it’s the medical & dental opinion of her doctors and confirmed by her original birth records & birth mom. Her amended BC is wrong
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  1564.  @abrustanolfie2366  Cam will tell you some made up crap and say she had baby teeth cause of her dwarfism. All their bs is “cAuSe dWarFisM”
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  1565. Felony neglect of a Dependent, counts 2, 4, 6 and 8 were not dismissed and are going to trial Sept & Oct 2022.
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  1566.  @mikeBG3  She turned 9 three wks after moving in, so fairer to say a 9 yr old. She may have been delayed when she first came here in July 2008, but there’s evidence of her functioning normally in June 2009. The dwarf family, DePauls, shared a school document of hers that they got from the original adopters. School testing for 1st grade readiness showed ability a lil lower in some skills, right on age in others and she was advanced from K to 1st grade. As for “adult school”, she attended for about 2.5 months. This wasn’t college. They provided various opportunities for those over 18 like literacy for adults who can’t read, English as a second language, GED prep to help increase chance of passing the GED test (which is easier that graduating from high school). It’s unclear what class or classes she took. Her age had already been changed to 22 and it was Kristine who signed her up. She never earned a GED.
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  1567.  @mikeBG3  Have you seen that girl now at 16? She looks like Natalia did at 16. Also, notice that dwarfism isn’t making those folks look like children? But somehow Natalia was 20 but looking 6?? How’s that work?
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  1568.  @camiosis  Natalia did not obtain a secret not-for-public-view no contact court order like YOU claimed. But indicted accused criminals out on bond do have bond conditions, like stay away from their victim
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  1569. It is hard to understand such gratuitous cruelty. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Routers did a big expose a few years back about how many adopted kids are ditched or re-homed. Especially internationally adopted kids. It’s a sad fact of life that some adoptive parents do not adopt out of love.
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  1570. “Legally over 18” THAT is the question. The prosecution contends the age change order was an illegal order. Judge Zore didn’t have jurisdiction or authority to change her age.
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  1571. So the 1st family brought an adult back from Ukraine and passed her off as a 4yr old? Quite the fantastical story.
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  1572.  @PursuePeace777  It’s nice to encounter a critical thinker!! 👍
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  1573.  @PursuePeace777  People who would fraudulently change a child’s age and then abandon them are the ones to be afraid of. That’s some scary behavior.
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  1574. @camiosis Hey Ho Pinocchi🤥
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  1575. @Love To Be Here She definitely spoke Russian, not Ukrainian, when the first family (Ciccones) adopted her, because it’s in her old medical records that the doctors had to get a translator
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  1576. Alan Ohms Get a grip. It takes a lot of evidence to get past a probable cause hearing. That was for the first 2 felony charges. Then the prosecution got court approval based upon new evidence to add 4 more felony charges. That 6 felonies per Barnett. They are facing 20 years. Yea, no way is she 30.
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  1577. Alan Ohms Yes about 30 years over exaggerated.
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  1578. Lol. Older than her bio mom, huh??
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  1579. Master document forger, too?? Able to fool immigration, Harvard doctors and first parents, too, eh?? Yes, a giant conspiracy as opposed to the simple truth that the Barnetts are bad people.
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  1580. Come on now. Do you really think this is a matter of words or beliefs? Hard science & documentation. X rays don’t lie. Even her birth mom was found. Those parents pulled a fast one. They’re bad people
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  1581.  @camiosis9024  Lol For weeks you kept insisting Michael filed a motion to dismiss counts 7 & 8. Good you’re admitting he only filed on count 7. Regardless, counts 2, 4 & 6 still on.
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  1582.  @LionIron447  Actually she gets a “free ride” starting at age 22 because of her permanent disability. In fact it would be worse as a kid because she wouldn’t be old enough to qualify on her own
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  1583.  @tillyvicks5849  Permanently disabled, such an easy life
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  1584.  @darthjarjarbinks8953  What a disgusting woman that Kristine is. Contrast that with Mrs DePaul who dressed Natalia as a Disney Princess. You’ve prob seen the pic in blue dress, missing front teeth
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  1585. My heads been the same size since about 12/13. Hers is at full size at 16, but the fact it’s grown since 1st adopted shows she wasn’t adult then
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  1586. Obviously. She came over in 2008 when she was 4. It would be suspicious if she still had an accent.
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  1587. Because they CAN prove she was a kid, now a teen. They have all her records. Do you really think a court could put a person on trial for 6 felonies without Strong evidence?
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  1588. I find it rather telling that the 2 oldest sons, who are 18 & 22, have not made a single statement in defense of their parents.
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  1589.  @juliangulian1032  Go watch one of the dads interviews to see actual lying. It’s proven they lied about her being a secret adult, now they’re defaming their victim
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  1590. Well Drs didn’t check her “tone” & “body language”, they checked her growth plates. Adults don’t have growth plates & she did
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  1591.  @the-dullahan  Her birth mother was confirmed via DNA testing. Revealed in open court 8/26/2020, reported by Ron Wilkins of the Journal and Courier 8/27/2020
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  1592.  @Robert-Christian  No it’s not. Stop lying. From the State’s Petition To Transfer, filed 10/12/2021 by the Office of The Attorney General: “Kristine and Michael Barnett misled state agencies, courts, and police for years with a court order they fraudulently procured that changed their adopted daughter’s legal age from eight to 22 years old.”
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  1593.  @Robert-Christian  Did you make that up all on your own? Hilarious. Not even a very good fake. Try again
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  1594.  @the-dullahan  So why are trial dates set for Sept- Mikey, Oct- Kristy ? In Indiana?? 😂🤣😂
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  1595.  @jesusmywholehaschanged  Nonsense. That’s just something people say to try to deny the cold hard facts.
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  1596.  @jessramirez5721  You can’t fake x rays. Her skeletal and dental x rays proved she was a young child. Even before her birth mom was proven, actual x rays showed the truth. Those parents are liars.
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  1597. Cauliflower ear is a defining feature of her subtype of dwarfism. It’s caused by genetics, not by trauma. 85% of people with Diastrophic Dysplasia have it https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1257787-clinical
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  1598. Well she didn’t choose her date of birth. Lol. She was born Sept 2003. Which made her 16 when she was on Dr Phil in Nov 2019. Today she is chronologically 17, but legally 31 due to Barnett’s fraud
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  1599.  @stayreal5083  Well technically primarily genetics will determine your height. But women tend to stop growing in height around those ages. You seemed interested in this story so I thought you might be interested in some of the documented medical findings. Believe what you want.
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  1600.  @stayreal5083  I did watch Phil, & all the other videos. Barnetts told her it said she was 14. They lied. The police have her actual records and the probable cause affidavit initially recounted 2 of her evaluations while in the Barnetts custody. An endocrinologist Dr Riggs in 2010 estimated her at about 8. Then in 2012 she had a full skeletal survey which estimated her age as about 11. A survey is not a bone density test. It is done with ex rays and analyzed her growth plates. Had she truly been 22, she would not have had growth plates. When you have reached your full adult height, which for women is around 16-18, your “plates” are no longer present and they can see the growth “line”. The detectives also uncovered her dental examinations and those too said she was a child. This was in an amended probable cause affidavit. It said in 2011 the dentist said she was between 8&9, and the dentist in 2012 said she was between 6&9. They also have her records from the 1st family that adopted her. And now records from the family she is with now. The current family took her to an orthopedic surgeon in 2016 and that dr said she was approximately 13-14. On top of all this, her birth mother has been located and she has the original birth records and orphanage papers, all confirmed her original birth date of Sept 2003. She really was a child.
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  1601.  @stayreal5083  I do not believe they were tricked.The chronological photos of her start at 6 and show a little girl with missing baby teeth, then her expected aging to a teen.
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  1602. Then they should have went to court and proved it. But She would have a lawyer, agency have a lawyer, 1st family have a lawyer. Not a secret ex parte filing like the age change bull they pulled
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  1603. I always thought the Barnetts wanted to get her deported. Thankfully, IF that’s true, it sounds like ICE didn’t agree with their nonsense. Confirmed a child by ICE, awesome
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  1604. Dr Phil messed up. She was NOT in 30 homes. The court records prove this. You can read it yourself on the court website. This kid’s been done wrong. She was the age they were told.
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  1605. It was done. It did show she was a child.
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  1606. She’s not close to 30. They found her birth mom, BM is only 40, and N was her second child. She put her in the orphanage because of her disabilities right after giving birth.
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  1607. Go to the Justice for Natalia Grace blog https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1608. Sometimes they adopt 6 of them, then drive off a cliff with them all in the car (Hart family)
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  1609. Spot on something ain’t right. They adopted a little girl and then abandoned her. Now they’re doing their best to paint her as the perpetrator.
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  1610. riddell74 I do understand what you’re saying. However, that simply wasn’t the case here. This is not a case of parents being convinced by drs and following professional advice. This is a case of parents virtually dr shopping and finally only succeeding in convincing the dr who described himself as “Michael Barnetts primary care doctor” to believe them. They ignored doctor after doctor and dentist after dentist who told them she IS a child. This was a cold and calculating crime.
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  1611. riddell74 She was a kid. 9 yrs old. I’d get arrested if I left my 9 yr old home alone for a mere week. They thought they’d get away with it because they had her age “legally” changed. But they concealed evidence from the court to accomplish that. Now they’re cold busted.
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  1612. You realize even adoptive parents can be abusers, right?
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  1613. Because their real son started to get famous. Interview requests from around the world pouring in. Way more fun for Mama to jet set than stay home taking care of a disabled child that she didn’t give birth to and wasn’t bonded with. She wanted Natalia gone. But gone in a secret way so that she was Not subjected to public disapproval. Because she had a book coming out and sold the movie rights to it. Would anyone buy a parenting book from a failed parent? No. She hoped that the age change would get Natalia deported. Having failed that, she did the next best thing—ditch her “legally” and leave the country. Pretend she never existed.(Edit a word)
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  1614. How old could she possibly be with a 41 yr old birth mom? Confirmed by DNA testing birth mom. She was baby no. 2. Mom was divorced with a 4yr old when she was born. Mom musta married at 6
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  1615. Ashley S Did you see the pics of her DePauls shared? She lost her front baby tooth,the adult tooth was growing in. Rest were baby teeth. In 2009. Like a normal 6 yr old.
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  1616. That’s Kristine’s story. Michael admitted to the detective that she was a minor child when they left her.
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  1617.  @camiosis9024  You and I both know that every fact I’ve ever said about this case is the truth. You can tell lies all day long but you’ll never change reality, even if you choose not to live in it.
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  1618.  @camiosis  Don’t worry about Nicole. She’s not interested in the truth and will believe whatever you tell her. She’s won’t go looking for anything I recommend & didn’t even click link on court website
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  1619.  @camiosis9024  NO DNA test reveals a person’s chronological age, unlike your repeated false claims that she needs to take an “age dna test”. A maternity DNA test proves who a person’s biological mother is, despite your repeated false claims that it only proves maternal relation. The Maternity DNA test proved Anna was her mother. Anna has all her documentation that proves N was born in September 2003. It is a proven fact. No matter whether or not Barnetts are able to escape criminal liability. They won’t escape civil liability. Game over for those reprehensible child abusers. For Kristine especially since she built a career on lies and now her lies are exposed. Bested by the child she discarded. Reaping what she sowed.
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  1620.  @nicolebesser3548  I’m not sure why but the links to journal and courier aren’t posting. To find the one about her birth mother google: journal and courier birth mother. For me the Aug 27 result is number 2. To find the article about their charges not being dismissed because the court of appeals is deciding, google: journal and courier Michael Barnett and you’ll find the Sept 4 article near the top of the results, showed up no 1 for me. As for the court link, if you click the highlighted motion, there are multiple document links that will show that you can read
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  1621.  @nicolebesser3548  If you want the medical evidence the detective uncovered it’s in the amended probable cause affidavit, located under case 20A-CR-01968 at mycase.in.gov You can also read the other filings, both sides, with prosecution giving a full background in their motion for interloc, all under Motion for Interlocutory Appeal.
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  1622.  @nicolebesser3548  I also directed you specifically to the Aug 27 reporting. Where you’d learn her birth mother, confirmed by DNA, has the original documentation with the same birthdate Barnetts were given.
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  1623.  @nicolebesser3548  The only reason that I’m even willing to entertain anymore questions from you, after how you’ve spoken to me, is because this isn’t about me, it’s about Natalia. She’s had so much worse said about her, so considering that, your condescending nastiness to me doesn’t mean much. Journal and Courier reported on her birth mother Aug 27, 2020. J&C has been leading the reporting. They’ve had reporters in the courtroom. All the other agencies take the facts from them and re-write it, often getting a lot wrong. You can also see their reporting on Sept 4, 3020 on why no charges have actually been dismissed yet
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  1624.  @nicolebesser3548  It’s a proven fact that she was born September 4, 2003.
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  1625.  @nicolebesser3548  She is a child, 17 now. It’s a proven fact. Your opinions do not align with the facts in this case
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  1626.  @nicolebesser3548  So strange, the DePauls (the ones who tried to adopt her) have dwarfism, but they don’t look like children. And their 14 yr old daughter doesn’t look 4. Hmmm
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  1627.  @nicolebesser3548  The Barnetts do NOT have any other disabled children. So, if that was leading you to believe that they are somehow accepting of disability, you can come up with a different excuse. I read Kristine’s book. She herself wrote that her son was declared “recovered” from his purportedly “moderate to severe autism” when he was 10 years old. In fact, his “recovery” is the foundation of her claims to be able to essentially cure children of autism. She calls it “pulling a child out of autism” and says “any family can do it” with enough effort. Part of that effort, of course, involves her proprietary“Spark method”, which she will gladly teach you for big bucks. It’s unconscionable what she does to desperate parents of children with autism. She is a fraud. Well established before Natalia had the misfortune of being adopted by them. It’s unfortunate that you have bought into their nonsense concerning Natalia’s age, because a real child is being harmed by this. Well established experts from Payton Manning Children’s Hospital determined that she was a child and told them so. 2 different dentists also told them she was a child. They ignored these experts and fraudulently got her age changed for the sole purpose of shedding their parental responsibilities. You repeat phrases of “5 courts” declaring her an adult, but cannot answer anything about this claim you make (ps It’s not true anyway). Finally, her birth mother was located and confirmed via DNA testing. Her documents which prove Natalia was born in September 2003 match the documents Barnetts were provided. This effectively Ends any debate over her age. It is proven. Whether Barnetts escape criminal liability for their acts is a secondary. They may get away with it. They may not. But her age is proven and she will have her age restored. After which I expect there to be Civil liability for what they did.
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  1628.  @camiosis9024  Tell me about what happened in 2013
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  1629.  @nicolebesser3548  Tell me about these “5 times”
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  1630.  @nicolebesser3548  Of course she isn’t 6 Today. She’s 17 now. But she was born Sept 4, 2003, exactly as Barnetts were told, exactly as her birth certificate said before they got it changed. Those are facts, not opinions. The suspicion that her birth certificate was wrong, THAT was an opinion. An incorrect opinion as has now been shown.
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  1631.  @nicolebesser3548  Sorry Nicole, but the facts do not align with your opinion.
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  1632.  @gnarlkill1  Nice try Cami. 🤥🤣
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  1633.  @camiosis9024  Because they want justice for Natalia Grace. Adoption will not restore to her her Birthright, her actual and legitimate date of birth
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  1634. @Camiosis You lie Pinocchiosis. Natalia hasn’t been adjudicated 4 times. She’s not the one arrested and charged. Barnuts are being adjudicated, not their victim
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  1635. @Imeh Smith That makes no sense
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  1636. @camiosis Crazy how you keep lying. You say the court appointment a guardian ad Litem AFTER the court case was over? Lol. Sorry sweetie, but GAL’s are ONLY for court cases. Their appointment ENDS when the case ends. Lol. You see the word “guardian” and act like the “ad litem” part means nothing. At least that’s what you’re hoping people will believe. Then you say she got a no contact order. In 2012. What a hoot!!! Michael’s attorney Kinnard said on Dr Oz that the prosecution established a no contact order as a bond condition AFTER he was arrested. Ding bat! If there already was a no contact order then why didn’t Kinnard say that? Why did prosecution put one on them? You know these no contact orders are on the court website, right?? There was never an no contact order until they were arrested. What a meathead you are
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  1637. Imeh Smith You apparently don’t realize that that they are lying when they claim she admitted to the hospital that she tried to kill them. That why it’s not making sense to you that they released her back into their care. Because IF they were telling the truth the hospital would not have kept sending her back home PLUS she would have been prosecuted. But she’s never been charged with anything. Just the Barnetts are charged. Hmmmm.
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  1638. @Imeh Smith You ask what kind of adults are scared of an 8yr old? The answer is NONE. They weren’t afraid. They are LYING. They didn’t bond, a disabled kid is more work than they bargained for, so they cooked up a scheme, got her age changed in a confidential secret hearing, put her on welfare and SSI disability and collected her checks, then fled the country.
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  1639. @Imeh Smith Why do you think “30 families” returned her? Where is the evidence for that? All Natalia said to Phil was “Kristine CLAIMED” she was with 30 families. Did Michael or Kristine say that in ANY interview? No they did not. In fact, Michael said when the agency called they gave Barnetts 24hrs to say yes/no or else Natalia would be PUT INTO foster care. “Put into” means she wasn’t already IN foster care. Michael also talked about her smiling when meeting them and commented that it should have been a red flag because what child is happy after having been given up ONLY 5 MINUTES before. Kristine admitted to meeting the Ciccones when she talked about how she didn’t ask Ciccones WHY they were giving her up. IF Natalia was already in foster care then why would Ciccones have been at the adoption agency? Why did Michael say “INTO”? Add to that the DePauls interviews and comments—The DePauls were dealing directly with Ciccones up thru Dec 2009. Borrowing Natalia on weekends and hoping to adopt her. Then there’s the legal filing to change her age Barnetts filed in 2012. It lists the Ciccones. No mention of foster care. So it would appear you have based your opinion on something that wasn’t true.
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  1640. @Calum1504 You can start here https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1641. The 14yr old estimate was in 2017!! They adopted her in 2010. You really should look at all the information amassed & posted to the blog called Justice For Natalia Grace.
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  1642.  @thatschitzoblogger  Adoption literature says an adopted child will lose their 1st language by 6mos. When you never hear it, you lose it fast & gain new language very quickly
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  1643. You started off good. There definitely are medical/scientific ways to determine someone’s age. But then you blew it. Apparently you are unaware that she WAS scientifically determined to be a child back when she was with the Barnetts.
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  1644. Well her bio mom is 40 and just confirmed by DNA. She also has the birth certificate, hospital records and records from placing her in the orphanage. All match—Born Sept 2003
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  1645. @Oppie - nighty The prosecution is DNA testing the presumed bio M in Ukraine, who says Natalia’s original birth certificate was correct and she is 16 today.
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  1646. Oh, so it’s a long con? Cause the Mans took her in in 2013. Yea, they just bidding their time? How stupid do you have to be to think that??
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  1647. Michael Myers She WAS 6 when adopted in 2010. She’s 16 now. Took cops a while to crack this case.
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  1648. Fortunately this case has hard evidence. Evidence which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is a minor. People who would lie about a kid’s age, would lie about anything.
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  1649. Mike Clark The prosecution has the opinions of learned doctors and dentists who all determined she was a child. That’s why Barnetts caught 6 felony charges
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  1650. I’m sorry that happened to you
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  1651.  @robaustin4193  I’m not your chef or your waitress
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  1652.  @robaustin4193  Lol what?
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  1653.  @robaustin4193  Fascinating, but I’m not your therapist or your priest. TMI
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  1654.  @robaustin4193  That’s a lovely straw man argument Rob.
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  1655. They didn’t do a bone density test. They did a full skeletal surgery (growth plate evaluation) at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital in June 2012. Her age estimated at 11. Fact vs Fiction
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  1656. The detective investigated this for over 5 yrs. The conclusion was that Natalia was a minor child. So Dr Phil didn’t make a mistake.
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  1657. Here you go https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1658.  @ernestinejohnson9022  The media located birth mom, likely from documents Kristine shared in her interview. Prosecution did the maternity DNA testing & she’s def the birth mom. You have some misinformation- B mom didn’t refuse to show up at any hearing. Even without he B mom, there’s still the x ray evidence.
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  1659. She can’t be near 40. Her birth mother was tracked down and is only 42. Further, medical & dental x rays conclusively prove she was a child when they ditched her
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  1660. This stuff went down over 8 yrs ago. Since being free of the Barnetts she’s had truly loving parents. Plus the people who abused who are finally being held to account. Why wouldn’t she be calm?
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  1661.  @TheGj2323  Media reporting is deeply flawed. The case has not been settled. Half the charges were dismissed d/t Statute of Limitations. Other half (4 felony) trial Sept/Oct
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  1662.  @johnc1280  Medical and dental x rays are immune to emotion. She had open growth plates in 2018 per orthopedic surgeon Lisa Maskill, her age was estimated as 13-14. Adults don’t have growth plates
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  1663. The first family is not the Barnetts. Originally the Ciccones traveled to Ukraine, adopted her, brought her back to the US in July 2008. She was only four. They were unprepared for the depth of her surgical needs. If Barnetts are to be believed, she wasn’t really 4, but was secretly 18 when she came here. So we are to believe the Ciccones missed that? And all the doctors they took her to just didn’t notice? Even with ex rays?? That’s simply not believable. Oh, and she wasn’t with 30 families. She wasn’t in foster care ever. Ciccones let her spend time w/families like the DePauls who were interested in adopting her from them. But Ciccones ultimately chose Barnetts. Ciccones brought her to Barnetts at the agency. Barnetts were the 2nd fam to adopt her
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  1664. She doesn’t need adopting. She has a family who loves her. Those people on stage with her that rescued her back in 2013. The Barnetts are liars.
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  1665. This will probably surprise you, but there ARE NO “thirty families”. Barnetts adopted her from the original(1st) adoptive family. There was a family (Before Barnetts) who were spending time with her and wanting to adopt her. But utimately Barnetts were chosen
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  1666.  @dontcryovercomments9307  She didn’t lie about her age. She’s exactly the age they were told. Of course they will makeup stories about her behavior, how else can they turn the public against an innocent victim?
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  1667. SHE didn’t do anything, except get F’d over by some degenerate adopters.
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  1668. Ser ka She was getting SSI and THEY had the money coming to Michael. They took HER MONEY. Liars who belong in Prison
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  1669. Loving family? Say who? Leaving your disabled child behind while you move to Canada certainly isn’t something loving parents would do
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  1670. You’re an idiot
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  1671. Shirley King Criminal defendant lying their butts off, as usual.
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  1672. She wasn’t in the spotlight in 2013 when she first started living with them. And she’s never been anything but sweet and kind.
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  1673. Her birth mother has her ultrasound and birth records, proving she really was born in 2003. You can choose to believe the Barnetts accusations, but her age is no longer a question
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  1674. The Barnetts should be in prison
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  1675. But was it actually unusual? They said they had been working with a FL adoption agency & had been matched with a little girl from Haiti. They said Haiti earthquake Jan 2010 disrupted adoption process. They claim a dif agency then contacted them about Natalia. We really don’t know if it was in fact a diff agency. The agency that handled Natalia’s adoption was Shepherd Care, FL oldest agency and Not in a strip mall like he claimed. Plus, In general, agencies aren’t known for cold calling people like he claimed happened. Then she was in their home for 6 months before they went before an Indiana judge & finalized the adoption. They made no claims that her age was wrong at that hearing, even tho they claimed to have already discovered she was past puberty. Once you fully examine the Barnetts claims, it becomes clear that they are the ones being dishonest
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  1676. Maybe to cover up something very wrong that was happening in that home and to preemptively discredit her
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  1677.  James Omar  MLM stands for Multi Level Marketing. I’m no expert on them, but (simplistically) it’s where you sell something and try to recruit the person who is buying from you to join as another salesman. Then you get a cut of whatever the person you recruited sells too. Then the person you recruited go out and recruits a customer into becoming a salesman. Then you (1) still get a cut of the person you recruited sales, PLUS (2) a cut of the sales of whoever They recruited. So if Nathan recruits Bob, and Bob recruits Bill and Bill recruits Tom, Nathan gets a cut of Bob+Bill+Tom’s sales, etc etc. The person at the top earns while the underlings barely squeak by. These are also known as Pyramid Schemes.Sometimes there is a “buy in” fee and that’s how the upper people make money cause they get a cut of the fee the new person pays in. Eventually the scheme will fail and the bottom people never got a return for their investment. Generally they are scams. Wow, about your Aunt and Uncles minister! My family is Catholic, so we were rocked when the abuse scandals hit. The priest who performed my First Communion was defrocked in the scandal. He performed the marriage ceremony for many of the family members. Regularly dined at my aunt and uncles home. So, yea, I too don’t assume someone is a good person based upon their chosen line of work.
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  1678.  James Omar  After you said you looked at his YouTube channel, I did too. And he promotes a MLM as a get rich quick venture. People get so taken advantage of with MLM’s
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  1679.  James Omar  Yup, Nathan is clearly a scammer himself. Pushing his BS multi level marketing nonsense. What an a$$hat.
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  1680. She doesn’t need to be convincing. She’s not the one on trial. She’s the one with a dozen doctors set to testify that she’s the age that Barnetts were told. She’s the one who’s birth mom was confirmed
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  1681. She didn’t EVER have an accent? Barnetts are liars. It’s in her medical records while w/1st adoptive family (Ciccones) the DR had to use a translator. Actual rec were shown
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  1682. Naw, they made up that period stuff & all the rest so they wouldn’t look like the monsters they are for ditching a disabled child. She speak w/o accent cause she was 4 when came here. Lil kids lose their accents, but adults don’t. No accent is evidence she really was a child
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  1683. That’s just not believable. 10 years ago she didn’t look 20, she looked 6 with a missing front tooth and a mouth full of baby teeth.
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  1684. You don’t look like the kind of person who would believe such nonsense. An adult sat in a kindergarten classroom but the teacher didn’t notice? Other parents didn’t notice? Drs didn’t notice? Come on
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  1685. No she is not 8 there. That’s not a Barnett photo. That is a photo from the Mans, the family she has lived with since 2013.
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  1686. What a quack. Didn’t even get her type of dwarfism correct. Prosecution has her actual dental records from 2011 & 2012. She was a child no older than 9. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  1687. She was a child. She’s a teen now
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  1688. Her birth mother has been located, in Ukraine of course, confirmed via Maternity DNA testing, only 40yrs old, pregnancy/delivery/relinquishment documents All Match. Natalia born 2003 Confirmed
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  1689.  @maidenaholic  They didn’t run away for no reason. Their bio kid got into a prestigious school in Canada and they couldn’t go if they had her because back then Canada didn’t admit adults/children who were heavy users of medical care, considering those people to be a drain on their govt provided healthcare system. So they found a way to ditch her, a way that wouldn’t bring scorn upon them. Reputation was VERY important to Barnetts because Kristine had a book coming out about her amazing parenting and no one buys parenting advice from parents who re-home adopted children. FYI It is undisputed she was 1st adopted from an orphanage & brought to the US in July 2008. So who ever said she was in the sys in 1988 doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
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  1690.  @maidenaholic  She was ruled a legal adult in 2012. There hasn’t been a new proceeding to determine or correct her legal age. There’s 2 separate issues- her true age and whether the Barnetts can be held criminally responsible for neglect. The criminal case can only determine criminal charges, not her true age. Reporting by some outlets has been inaccurate. There were orig 8 charges of Neglect. Four for July 2013-July 2014. Those 4 were dismissed because of the statute of limitations. The other 4 are for July 2014-July 2016. Those are proceeding on the basis of Neglect of a Dependent, being a Dependent on account of disability regardless of age. Because this criminal case cannot determine her true age, the 2012 legal age change (from born 2003 to born 1989) controls. The state cannot tell the jury about the age change or her true age, only her legal age. Michael went to trial in Oct and was acquitted. Because these 4 charges only start in July 2014 and she was rescued by the Mans in 2013, so she was no longer in danger. Despite the fact they left her alone in an apt starting in Aug 2012, the statute of limitations prevents them from being held responsible for the earlier time period. As for her age, the fact is her birth mother was located and isn’t old enough to have been married and have a child born in 1989. Plus, ALL the medical professionals determined she was a child in 2012. It simply isn’t true that any medical or dental test or x rays said she was an adult back then. She’s only 19 now, but her legal age is 33 now. Their novel scheme worked and it appears they are getting away with it, unless or until she gets her own lawyer and pursues a civil suit. Or perhaps the Feds step in with federal charges. Kristine’s trial on her 4 remaining charges is this April 2023.
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  1691.  @maidenaholic  Kristine’s trial is set for April 2023. Please explain how her birth mother, born in 1980, was married & giving birth to Natalia in 1989 (1989 was the new amended birth year; actual birth year in 2003)
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  1692.  @maidenaholic  Actually she hasn’t been part of 30 families. That was just some BS Kristine told her. Regardless, their claims are utter nonsense
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  1693. Just because the criminal defendants tell a crazy story doesn’t make it true. Typical abusers trying to blame the victim
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  1694. There’s ton of high clarity photos that show her baby teeth (back then) and obvious youth, but instead the media tries to create confusion and doesn’t show those
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  1695. It also could have been avoided if changing an adopted child’s age was illegal.
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  1696. @James Omar DNA has exonerated many a falsely accused, as well as reunited many long lost family members. We have Nobel winner Kary Mullis to thank for that, his PCR method
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  1697. Yes, they can and did scientifically (meaning medically/dentally) prove her age within a range of 0-3 years. She still had “growth plates” which were analyzed. Adults do not have “growth plates”. She still had some baby teeth and the ones she lost were lost at the expected age.
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  1698. You just don’t know ALL the evidence the detectives uncovered investigating this for 5+yrs. Medical, dental, Dad/Mike Confessed, bio mom, she absolutely was a child
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  1699. @ali elkadiki Being 9 was 7 yrs ago
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  1700. To be fair, the Barnetts have made 10 times the public statements than Natalia has. Mike went on Dr Oz Twice, gave Inside Edition interview and various other interviews PLUS hired a public relations firm! Kristy spoke first to Daily Mail, did a lengthy Facebook live, and made faceB posts. The only public statement Natalia made was Dr Phil. In addition to statements there is a plethora of public documents and photographs available. The available information preponderates in Natalia’s favor.
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  1701.  @leahnicole155  Don’t confuse survive with thrive. She certainly wasn’t thriving. All she had to do to survive is eat & Barnetts were bringing her food and neighbors were helping her. She survived the way kids with druggie parents survive and the way kids in 3rd world countries survive on the streets and in the slums.
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  1702. The blog Justice For Natalia Grace has put together the timeline. She was first adopted in July 2008, age 4. Barnetts adopted her May 2010, finalized Nov 2010; re-aged and ditched her June 2012; Rescued by Mans family Aug 2013; Birth mother located Sept 2019, confirmed by DNA [reported] Aug 2020. Natalia was a child, she is a teenager now, age 17
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  1703. Nope, the birth mother dr Phil mentioned was substantiated by DNA. She has all the receipts proving Natalia really was born 2003
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  1704.  @whyhellothere7426  It really is baffling.
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  1705. Learn the whole story on the b log. It’s called Justice For Natalia Grace
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  1706. That’s a catch-22 isn’t it? If guilty she wouldn’t admit, but innocent she wouldn’t admit either. But you know who DID admit it? The dad. Admitted she was a child
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  1707. No, her birth mother was confirmed by DNA. Her records match. N was born in 2003. FYI She wasn’t in foster care and didn’t live in 30 different homes. That was just something the mom told her
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  1708. “Michael Barnett admitted he believed Natalia was a minor child in July of 2013”. This is a direct quote from the sworn police affidavit. I believe the detective, doctors, dentists, & BioMom https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1709. @Commander Shepard Any one that can read can see the results from 2 different specialists at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital PLUS the dad confessed. Read for yourself https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1710. @Camiosis The charges are not dismissed yet because the judge STAYED the order and approved the prosecution’s interlocutory appeal of the dismissal. Try again Pinocchiosis
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  1711. @Camiosis Sure thing Pinocchiosis🤥
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  1712. @Camiosis You sound like a broken record, Pinocchiosis🤥
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  1713. @Camiosis Nothing has been dismissed yet Pinocchio, no matter how many time you claim it has.
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  1714. @Camiosis That’s because you are a liar. The truth hurts the liar, Pinocchiosis
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  1715. @James Omar You’re killin’ me Lol
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  1716. @mroldnewbie Welcome to the fantastical world of Barnutters. No lie too far fetched, no interpretation that cannot be spun to support the laughable allegation that an 18 yr old impersonated a 4 yr old and was unknowingly adopted by a Harvard graduate mother and Architect father (the first family, the Ciccones). Then foisted onto the Barnutts. Literally laughable and only child abuse supporters or those with only a double digit IQ buy this “story”
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  1717. @camiosis Whatever Pinocchi🤥
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  1718. @camiosis Stop lying Pinocchi🤥
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  1719. @Aleksandar Samardzic Yes I’m on your side!!
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  1720. @Aleksandar Samardzic Reporting your comments? So pathetic to try to silence you.
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  1721. @SimpleGamingPC Are you stupid? There’s proof right now, just based on those moron Barnetts statements that they are lying.
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  1722. @Do Action This is your copy and paste number 4. You’re on a roll!!
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  1723. Aleksandar Samardzic She really is. I would love to see her, after trial, seize this platform she’s been thrust into and use it to spread her anti-bullying message that she spoke of on her channel. She is so genuine and words so heartfelt. She has every reason to be angry at the world, but she is not. I really admire her attitude.
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  1724. Aleksandar Samardzic Sorry, I don’t remember exactly. It was at least 4 months ago. I’ve made too many comments to find them by filtering through my own comments.
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  1725. Aleksandar Samardzic Natalia went to public school until Barnetts changed her age, making her fraudulently ineligible. That’s one of the charges they’re facing—Neglect which denied her an education. I actually saw a commenter who was in 2nd grade with her and said Natalia was a typical 2nd grader and no one thought she was older. Another commenter had a friend who was at LARA when Natalia was there and said she was really nice but didn’t seem like an adult. Neither commenter has gone public as far as I know. I also have no way to verify the claims, so I can’t endorse them but their chosen words sounded legit.
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  1726. Exactly. If she came over as an adult like the parents claimed, she’d still have accent. No accent means really was a child
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  1727. Segree Currie What do you mean Michael’s confession is hearsay?
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  1728. Segree Currie No, the evidence from Payton Manning and the dentists was NOT presented to the court before. You can read the Barnetts age change motion and read what their evidence was. It did not include bone scans, skeletal surveys, nor dental records. The Barnetts were clearly doctor shopping.
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  1729. Oh the irony, while you mindlessly believe the Barnetts ripped-from-a-movie-script defense
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  1730. Joe adding to the misery of a child victim. Good job for joe. I guess it’s ok because she was born in Ukraine and is disabled and looks different. Make her an Ok target. Disgusting
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  1731. Nope. The opposite. Ex parents still heading towards trial. More counts of felony neglect added.
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  1732. That’s why the experts said she was a child. Because they can distinguish a child from an adult
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  1733. Well according to her neglectful parents she’s 31. Do you really buy that ??
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  1734.  @camiosis9024  Charge 7 dismissal was a given. It was for 2013-2014, same as counts 1, 3, & 5 that were previously dismissed. But that still leaves 2, 4, 6, & 8. It’s on the court docket😂🤣😂 Published Today.
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  1735.  @camiosis9024  Keep spinning. 5 counts remaining. Ooh and something new, looks like your gal has violated the court’s order. Can’t wait to see how than pans out🤣
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  1736. @NR W What “dozens”? I’m serious. What families did she pass thru? Cause everything about this case has been reported on, so if there are dozens of other families surely you’d know names
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  1737. They’re distorting the story alright! Adopted kid abused then accused isn’t salacious enough. And you bought in. Hilarious.
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  1738. Yes, she does have her medical papers. Yes, the growth plate analysis DID show she was a young teen.
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  1739. Dr Phil doesn’t believe Her. He believes the endocrinologist, the 2 orthopedic surgeons, the 2 dentists, the 2 pediatricians, that ALL say she was a Child. He believes Mikes Confession.
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  1740. I used to think Joe was a bit smart. Until this. Him swallowing the Barnetts fantastical alibi. Him perpetuating the character assassination of an abused child. F Joe
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  1741.  @UlricGrim  Diastrophic Dysplasia is a cartilage disorder. A mutation in the sulfate transporter gene effects the conversion of cartilage to bone. A different mutation in that same gene may possibly be implicated in hyperaldosteronism. This doesn’t support your premise that all forms of dwarfism effects hormones. Worse, it has nothing to be with the indicators of puberty we were speaking about. You’re bashing the victim here.
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  1742.  @UlricGrim  What I’m saying is confirmed by the medical literature which you clearly have not bothered to consult.
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  1743.  @UlricGrim  You have no idea what you’re talking about.
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  1744.  @UlricGrim  Natalia’s subtype of dwarfism is Diastrophic Dysplasia. It does NOT effect hormones. Look it up. Maybe you’ll see that you are bashing the victim here.
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  1745.  @UlricGrim  She did Not have hair & periods. That’s a lie and you fell for it for some reason. Girls with hair&periods also have boobs. You can see she didn’t. Had baby teeth tho
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  1746. @James Omar You see now that was just a fake act. She saw how Camo’s unabashed hatred for Natalia was failing to win converts. So she tried to be sneaky & tried to appear reasonable. FAKE
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  1747. @James Omar What a bunch of weirdos. Boy when that mask slips, it really slips!! Their putrid real selves on full display
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  1748. All that was done (DNA on birth mom; dental x rays; skeletal x rays. It’s publicly available info on court website. She was a child and they knew it.
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  1749. @Angela Crouch Of course she hasn’t had a job yet. She’s 16. Plus she’s been denied a proper education and educational opportunities due to her age being legally changed by Barnetts.
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  1750. @Rohan Tandra Allie was clearly talking about whether a girl would hide her period or not being dependent upon her family environment.
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  1751. I like to see them left alone in solitary confinement in prison...where they belong
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  1752. She didn’t need a free place to stay. She’s disabled. The govt would give her a free place to stay. She has no motive to do any of the things they claimed. They, on the other hand, had motive
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  1753. Daily Mail did find her bio mom & her interview is online. Prosecution has conducted DNA testing to confirm. But with the gag order in place, the results haven’t been released.
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  1754. Impossible. The DePaul family who tried to adopt her 6 months before Barnetts said she (Mrs DePaul) bathed her and she was NOT an adult. You don’t become fully developed in 6months
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  1755. @First Last Hopefully they will see some jail time. With the one count carrying a potential 20 yrs, it’s not likely they’ll get a probation only plea deal. (Yes I think they’ll take a plea)
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  1756. 1)- They know who she was. She had a birth certificate, passport, identity confirmed. They even had a copy of the 1st parents adoption decree. 2)- They didn’t do that because they knew she was a child 3)- They had no evidence at all of her doing anything violent 4)- The whole thing was getting rid of her Secretly. That’s why they put her someplace far from where they originally lived. If she had been sent to a knew family, they risked the public shaming like the Stauffers got, and the loss of income from their book (no one buys parenting advice from failed parents). I’ve followed this case from the beginning and read all available court documents, I’d be happy to try to answer any other questions you have.
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  1757. She was a child. Her medical & dental & birth records prove it.
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  1758. The media is purposefully telling this in a way to get views. Because the truth is she had testing yrs ago. Hard science. Ex rays. ALL said she was a child. That’s why Barnetts were arrested.
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  1759.  @nicksmith3746  No way. They’re lying
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  1760. gizel brown There is irrefutable immigration records that she came over in 2008 at age 4
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  1761. More like typical lying defendants. Denied her the education she was entitled to, surgeries they promised, signed her up for SSI to shift their parent obligations, but SHE’s the scammer?! No
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  1762. Naw, the Barnetts just crafted their accusations after the film, to distract from the crimes they committed
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  1763. No she did not. That’s why she is still living there and they are happy with her. Joe was clearly joking
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  1764. @Yolky Suuure she did. Kristine also claimed she was getting death threats now. Sheriff’s determined she wasn’t credible. Mike claimed a reporter Snuck in His House. They can’t stop Lying
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  1765. @Blue Yellow That’s just nonsense. Look above at the link I provided that proves she didn’t speak English when she first came her. Look on the blog and see that Barnetts had her original adoption decree proving she was adopted in Ukraine https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1766. @Bobby Lawsen When she was first seen by drs here in 2008, it was noted in her medical records that the dr needed to use a translator to communicate with her. It’s reported here https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2019/12/12/michael-and-kristine-barnett-face-more-charges-abandoning-natalia/4413571002/
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  1767. @b gilley She only lived with the Barnetts from May 2010-June 2012. To this day they are still her legal parents.
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  1768. @Tasha R Camiosis is a honey badger. And honey badger don’t give a F. Bullying kids with dwarfism is Fun for Camiosis. Been doing it for months. A real psycho
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  1769. She was a child. Not only do all her Drs and dentists say so (x rays don’t lie) but now her birth mother is confirmed as well.
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  1770.  @Breesky03  You must have missed the DePauls interview. They said the Barnetts are lying.
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  1771. I’m just glad they didn’t do what those other adoptive parents, The Harts, did. The Harts, rather than relinquish their adopted children to the state, drove off a cliff, killing the children they went through so much to adopt.
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  1772. She wasn’t even AT the age change hearing. That’s right. It was done in secret, Ex Parte. Why is that? She wasn’t there, no lawyer or GAL there for her. Total bs
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  1773. According to the neuropsychologist. Lol. Cause that’s what neuropsychs do. Not. Lol
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  1774. Lucky you. How old is your biological mother? Hers is only 40
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  1775. She changed so much since first adopted. Adults don’t change that much. She was clearly a child
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  1776. Awe too bad she’s an American citizen. Maybe you might feel better leaving?
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  1777.  @joycesmith1742  Joyce I’ve been on youT for 13 years under my real name. Why do you have a problem w someone sticking up for the victim?
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  1778.  @kellyking5269  Omg are you actually also defending Chris Watts? I see you commented on a diff video that you don’t think he k****d his daughters. SMH
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  1779. Lars Finsen That was about the blog. Kristine was pissed that the blogger put up the Mans address and people were sending Natalia gifts. She wanted the Mans held in contempt and the blog suppressed. The judge sided with Natalia/The Mans. Here’s a link to the blog https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1780. Not closed adoption. They met the Ciccones and even got a copy of Ciccones adoption decree. After picking her up in May, they had 6 months before THEY finalized in Indiana Court
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  1781. Lakishna Johnson Just test Barnetts first. Cause they will fail and we won’t have to pay for 3 tests. If she tests first, she will pass, then it’s 2 more for Barnetts. Judicial economy.
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  1782. Hold on, I thought you were talking about Barnetts
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  1783. You’re not serious are you?
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  1784. Of course she’s not 6 dingdong. Did you not follow this story At All? She was 6 back in May 2010 when they got her. She’s 17 now (16 on the show). The arrested parents are the cons here
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  1785. Erna Herlina 2)This has been an ongoing investigation for over 5 years. It was hard to get the evidence necessary, but they finally did. 3)30 families is not true. Been w/Mans 6+ yrs & no issues
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  1786. Manuel Gonzalez Fraudulently because they lied when they alleged their 8 yr old was a 22 yr old and motioned the court to change her age.
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  1787. They bit off more than they could chew. Sadly VERY common. What is uncommon was the way they chose to handle the situation. Fraudulently. Then abandoning her.
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  1788. She is 16, actually 17 now. Her birth mother was confirmed by DNA and her hospital documents prove this kid was born Sept 2003.
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  1789. Who are you to call her a “creature”? Based upon the words of the ultimate Karen?
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  1790. You must realize that adoptive parents can be abusers the same as biological parents. No one suggests a baby found in a dumpster couldn’t have been placed there by it’s mother cause after all, Why would she carry the baby for 9 months just to throw it away.
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  1791. This is her family by choice. They have raised her since she was 9 years old. Her birth mother has been found and she is proven to be a child, now 17 yrs old. The Barnetts abandoned their disabled daughter
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  1792. Saint Dope That 30 family claim was simply a Barnett LIE. Barnetts adopted her from Ciccones who had adopted her in Ukraine July 2008
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  1793. In this case, the good person is Natalia. She did nothing to deserve what the Barnetts did to her. Original birth cert & adoption paperwork said born in 2003. Same as Birth mom’s documents
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  1794. that’s pretty good The prosecution has actual evidence that proves she was a child. Evidence the Barnetts concealed from previous courts. That’s why they’re charged with 6 felonies
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  1795.  @donny9078  22 is the age they selected when they asked the court to amend her birth certificate back in 2012, when she was really 8. Briefly- She was born Sept 2003. They adopted her May 2010 (age 6). They had her birthdate amended in June 2012 from birth year 2003 to birth year 1989 (from age 8 to age 22). Dr Phil interview was Nov 2019. At time of interview she was chronologically 16, but legally 30.
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  1796.  @donny9078  She wasn’t older. She was exactly the age her birth certificate said. Her birth mother was located and besides being 40 yrs old, which itself would strongly indicate Natalia was not 30 yrs old as Barnetts contend, she has her pregnancy and hospital records. She relinquished Natalia at birth because of her disabilities. In addition to the birth mother, the medical evidence is overwhelming. Here is a list of Drs on Natalia’s side- HARRIS geneticist and lecturer at Harvard; SPENCER surgeon and asst professor at Harvard Medical School; MILLIS surgeon and Professor at Harvard Medical School; EMANS surgeon and Professor at Harvard Medical School; KULDANEK pediatrics at DeVos Children’s Hospital; MASKILL surgeon at DeVos Children’s Hospital; RIGGS endocrinologist at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital; THOMPSON orthopedist at Payton Manning; DEMETRIS child abuse specialist; DECKARD dentist. Do you know who’s on Barnetts side? ONE doctor, Dr Andrew McLaren general practitioner and a social worker therapist Susan Whitten. (All this information is available on the court website)
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  1797.  @donny9078  What doesn’t make sense? It’s pretty simple—Barnetts are liars.
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  1798.  @lemons2135  She was declared 22, that is a fact. But it is also a fact that the change was made without any investigation and without her medical records or dental records
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  1799.  @lemons2135  She was admitted to the orphanage as a newborn infant.
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  1800. No, the birth mom’s hospital records show a daughter w dwarfism was born 2003 & was placed in orphanage & orph. records show infant admitted.
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  1801. @Derek Diehl Show your mom this police affidavit. I bet she changes her opinion. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1802. Marc Cooks This blogger has it figured out, with help from multiple people a la Don’t F with Cats https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1803. Lost her first baby tooth in Oct 2009. At age 6. Like most 6 yr olds. The DePauls pictures show her gap tooth smile. That can’t be a 26 yr old
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  1804. Olav Kaurin I agree. She was parentified early on and had to take care of herself far beyond what is expected of most children. I also think she has an advanced intellect.
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  1805. If she was a teen, she would have had all her adult teeth. But she didn’t. As proven by the photos of her right after losing her 1st tooth ever, in 2009. It takes 4-6yr to go from 1st loss to all adult
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  1806. More like 2 Big Barnett weirdos.
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  1807. Evil is what Barnetts did. That kid is a victim of Them.
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  1808. Are you saying that you don’t believe she’s from Ukraine originally? Maybe you don’t know the original adoptive parents, before Barnetts, went to Ukraine & adopted her there
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  1809.  James Omar  😴😂🤣
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  1810. The simple truth is she looked like a little child because she was a little child.
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  1811. She’s an adult on paper, but she was born in 2003, Proven by BioMom. 40 yr old Ukrainian bioMom.
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  1812. @Captain Ron Their story makes no sense. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And they don’t have any. If she really was a murderous adult, wouldn’t they be 6 feet under? Heck, they even gave her the tools to do it, when they made her an adult. Now she could legally purchase a firearm. Now they can’t lock her up in some “therapeutic” out-of-country boarding school. They never even legally dissolved the adoption. At a minimum, shouldn’t they have had the adoption nullified? Maybe sued the agency and 1st family?? Nope. Nada. Their actions make no sense because they are lying.
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  1813. It was the Ciccones who adopted her in Ukraine from the orphanage in 2008. After almost 2 yrs they decided to give her away and contracted with adoption agency to find her new parents. Barnetts had been preparing to adopt a girl from Haiti, that fell through after Haiti earthquake. They claim the Haiti adoption was with a different agency and they were “cold called” by the agency Ciccones hired. I don’t believe agencies cold call looking for adopters. But that’s their story. So, they said they wanted to adopt her and went to pick her up in May 2010. Ciccones brought her to the agency and signed over custody to Barnetts. 6 months later Barnetts finalized the adoption in their home state of Indiana. Less than 2 yrs later Barnetts got her age changed from 8 to 22, ditched her because “You’re an adult now”.
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  1814. It’s a lie. That’s the explanation
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  1815. You don’t believe they would lie, so that means you believe this girl tried to murder them all for no reason after pulling off an elaborate scam to get adopted as a child? Faked documents, scammed US immigration, tricked the first family (Ciccones) into adopting her, tricked her orthopedic surgeons and pediatrician, tricked her kindergarten and 1st grade teachers/students/student’s parents, tricked her physical therapist, tricked the DePaul family VS The Barnetts lied. I’m not trying to be mean, but think about it.
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  1816. She wasn’t scamming anyone. She’s exactly the age she said & her original birth certificate indicated. Confirmed by Drs & birth mom
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  1817. @Ant's Place No, I’m not having cognitive dissonance. Perhaps it is you who are experiencing that? I’m guessing you don’t have a link to any reporting of the proof she is a secret adult, other than the Barnetts claims? Just for a moment, indulge me, what causes you to dismiss the confession in the police affidavit? What causes you to place no stock in the medical estimates of age recounted in the affidavit?
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  1818. @Ant's Place There’s no “30 yrs old” bone density records (nor 22 yrs old). Barnetts story gets repeated & expanded, but it’s bull. Check this out, Mike confessed, drs said she’s a kid https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  1819. @Ant's Place That’s their fantastical alibi
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  1820. No, I bet you don’t think dental records are most important. At least you won’t think that after you read this link that reported on the dental records. I don’t think I could show you anything that would convince you she was a child. You’ll just move the goalposts https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  1821.  @nodiggity9472  Wrong. The pediatric orthopedic surgeon Dr Bellflower who testified, said in his deposition that he looked at her growth plates and they were wide open. Confirmed child
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  1822.  @justinbaker7115  “Age ranges” you said, I agree. Like the 2012 dentist who took x rays & said she was 6-9yrs, which aligns with/confirms her orig birth certificate that said 8yrs.
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  1823.  @jessifer23f  You must be unaware that the Barnetts have NOT disputed the authenticity of the medical and dental records referenced in the affidavit (and referenced in the prosecution’s filings)
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  1824.  @jessifer23f  It’s called reading. The police affidavit listed the medical & dental evaluations and results. She was a child
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  1825. No, ALL the bone testing said she was a child. They’ve been lying about those results.
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  1826.  @The_Whimsical_Stenographer  Yea it’s one big conspiracy. Sounds way more logical that just the Barnetts being bad people. /s
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  1827.  @camiosis9024  DePauls said they didn’t meet her until around Sept 2009. She said her English was good but she was still learning and had an accent. You know I’m telling the truth. I know you know.
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  1828.  @camiosis9024  She better hope the feds don’t start looking into her “charity”. I have a feeling her chickens will be coming home to roost for years.
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  1829.  @camiosis9024  Lol DePauls sure blew Kristine’s “story” out of the water. Revealing how they were dealing privately with the C’s up through Christmas 2009. What a nut that Kristine. I laughed so hard when I saw where she tagged N DePaul on facebook. That Kristine lives in her own world. Thinks whatever she says is the way it is. You Spark families sure have drank the Kool-Aid to support her. Funny how she gets you to lie for her.
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  1830. Dr Phil showed photos taken by this family. So, yes, she IS older in them. In the photos from right before Barnetts she’s missing her 2 front teeth. Like most 6 yr olds. Her orig birth cert was correct
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  1831. They made it up because the mom hated her & wanted to move to CA to benefit the son & CA wasn’t admitting disabled in 2013
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  1832.  @graceosteen4763  Forget all the rest for one moment and consider this: When the first family, the Ciccones, adopted her it was July 2008 and her birth certificate said she was 4 years old. They obviously gave her baths, saw her naked, took her to doctors and dentists, sent her to Kindergarten and 1st grade. Ciccones had 2 older children, and were very educated, working as an architect and college administrator. According to Barnetts she was 14 years older than her birth certificate. So according to Barnetts she was 18 when she arrived her and 19 in Kindergarten and 20 in 1st grade. As you can see, Natalia is NOT a primordial dwarf (like the Indian actress from American Horror Story, or Guinness Book’s General Tom Thumb). Now, honestly, is that believable that Natalia fooled ALL those other people, her past parents & teachers & doctors? Look, if Barnetts said she was really 3 or 4 years older, I could believe that. It’s at least within the realm of possible. But we are talking 14 years. 🤷‍♀️
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  1833. jeremiah the Song Rains No there was not
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  1834. Who is the “everyone else” that’s wrong? All the medical doctors who say she was a child? The 2 diff dentists that the Barnetts took her to? When the dad confessed, was he wrong?
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  1835. The Barnetts can’t be trusted
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  1836. Authorities investigated for 5 long years. Over and over the evidence pointed to the Barnetts being the criminals
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  1837. They used and abused her. We need to be more careful who we allow to adopt.
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  1838.  @natalieselig6306  Basically saying a child adopted from an orphanage is likely to be violent is the height of Bias and not scientifically based
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  1839. The accusations of attempted harm come from the people who fraudulently claimed the child was an adult. Thus, they have no credibility
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  1840. Her age was accurately represented on her birth certificate, her visa, her immigration papers, her adoption papers & her medical records. She was a child
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  1841.  @whyhellothere7426  Exactly
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  1842.  @aprilsilvers381  Right! How can they claim they rushed into it when there was a mandatory 6 month wait before they went to court in Indiana to finalize it.
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  1843. @Isabella Maceda I sure they were reassured after they took her to the endocrinologist Dr Riggs in Oct 2010. He told them she was about 8. Then they FINALIZED the adoption Nov 3 2010
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  1844.  @camiosis9024  Yup, no wonder your parents kicked you out before you were 18. Fortunately for some kid, the adoption agency turned you down, too. I’m not surprised
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  1845.  @camiosis9024  @camiosis @Pinocchiosis Court of Appeals accepts jurisdiction over the interlocutory appeal on 11-20-2020
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  1846.  @camiosis9024  @camiosis Hiding behind an alias. No wonder your parents booted you out of the house before you were 18. They couldn’t take the non stop lies you tell.
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  1847.  @camiosis  Someone has 2 camiosis accounts. Interesting
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  1848.  @camiosis9024  You make no sense whatsoever. So hilarious how you don’t even know which county courts made rulings.
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  1849. Toby Salvaje The 30 families is something Kristine told her. It’s a lie. https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1850. Sympathy for the devil, eh?
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  1851. @James Omar Court of Appeals just ruled the scumbags get away with child abandonment on account of their slick scheme of re-aging her. What a miscarriage of Justice. They are still on the hook for neglect of a disabled dependent. I hope they’re convicted. And of course Natalia is still free to pursue a Civil remedy if she so desires. The Barnutters are nuttin as expected. What a sad day for the children of Indiana.
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  1852. @James Omar Yes she was with her uncle, not father. That arrest was like 20 years ago, so probably not the reason. I just get tired of people wanting to discuss Natalia’s mental state ad nauseam (not necessarily this thread, but seen it plenty on others) while assuming for some reason that the Barnetts were the bastions of mental stability and perfect backgrounds. The part about Michael’s claims I find most interesting is that he didn’t say a peep about Natalia. So all the supposed terrorizing and murder attempts didn’t cause him to seek therapy. No, it was Kristine he blamed. (It was definitely 4 years he claimed. The person he was talking to mentioned their own therapy length and he called them a rookie and mentioned how long he’d had therapy. This was in 2016, which I saw before he locked his Facebook down)
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  1853. You won’t hear what Kristine’s or Michael’s diagnoses are either. Although Mike did blab on Facebook a few years ago that he had 4 years of therapy because of how Kristine treated him. He called her evil and said his therapist agreed that she abused and controlled him. He’s been estranged from his sons ever since he divorced Kristine and remarried. As for Kristine, she’s got a dad with a rap sheet for DUI and patronizing a prostitute and a mom who was banned by a judge from seeing her grandchild when that grandchild’s parents were divorcing. Fertile ground for Kristine to have serious issues.
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  1854.  @yourgirljuls  She was 16 on the show which was 2yrs ago. But the Barnetts, the ones arrested, had adopted her in 2010 when she was 6. The parents on the show took her in in 2013
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  1855. @Kelly Davis Yes the DePauls are speaking out. IN NATALIA’S DEFENSE. Yes, her teeth were checked. Twice by the Barnetts. BOTH times in line with her original birth certificate.
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  1856. Wow. You totally bought the criminal defendants story.
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  1857. She knows how old she is, especially now that her bio mom has been confirmed via DNA. So that’s 1 good outcome for her, no matter what happens in criminal court.
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  1858. Why not polygraph the Barnetts? After all, they are the ones arrested after a 5 year investigation. No evidence was uncovered that Natalia did anything wrong
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  1859. Why doesn’t she age in the face?
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  1860.  @melaniegerard2195  You don’t know anything. I doubt you could distinguish sht from shinola
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  1861. I remember the news about parents who adopted not 1, not 2, not 3 or 4 or 5, but SIX kids. They must really be awesome. Saint-like. 6 kids. Then they purposely drove off a cliff, killing themselves and all 6 adopted children. Surely there must be a reason, right? Go through all that trouble adopting, only to drive off a cliff. Hmmm
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  1862.  @isa-5280  At that time 2012-2013 there was a ton of bad press about Americans adopting abroad & mistreating the children, one mom put a kid on a one-way flight back to Russia, etc. I think they didn’t want to risk bad press since their book was coming out in April 2013. I think the age 22 was strategically chosen to try to void her US citizenship she got w the 1st adoption so she would be deported & anything that happened to her in their home would disappear with her (they were reported for abse/neglect of her pre-age change). Problem solved, no public court case, no bad press, book+fame+fortune intact.
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  1863.  @isa-5280  No, Not you lying, the parents lying about her. They lied to get her age changed so they could legally abandon her.
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  1864.  @isa-5280  So if they had off’d her, you could understand. But lying about her you find perplexing?
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  1865. Why would someone adopt 6 kids then drive off the cliff w them? Remember the Harts? Adoptive parents can be bad, too
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  1866.  @katdoc929  Refer to my comment from yesterday—“They scammed the courts and the judges dropped the ball”. Did you actually read the published COA decision? I doubt it. The TL,DR is they got off on legal technicalities (Res Judicata, Collateral Estoppel) and the Statute of Limitations. None of which translates into the Barnetts being actually innocent. Don’t confuse a pre-trial decision with a decision on the merits of the issue. This was a dismissal not an acquittal. YOU feel attacked? From 2 strangers on the Internet? Well my goodness, imagine how Natalia Grace feels??? An innocent victim being mercilessly attacked by hundreds, including You. But you think you should have carte blanche to assail HER character. Talk about hypocrisy!
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  1867.  @katdoc929  The gag order’s been in place since Oct 2019. I guess you overlooked the date with all your stellar research. As for the newspapers, most of them didn’t research anything. There was very accurate reporting by Journal and Couriers Ron Wilkins. The other outlets who copied him were also by extension accurate. WISHTV also got a great scoop with the actual motion the Barnetts filed to change her age. The info in that motion, leaked by Kristine by the way, was very very illuminating. I bet you haven’t even read that motion, have you? You also sound very uninformed when you talk about all the supposed hearings. Nonsense. I bet you didn’t even know that there WASN’T a hearing to change her age in 2012. That’s a fact and the Barnetts agree there wasn’t a hearing. That judge (Zore—You did know his name didn’t you? After all you did all your research, right?) did not hold an evidentiary hearing. That means he talked to NO doctors, NO dentists, NO detectives, NO therapists, not even the Barnetts themselves!! They didn’t step foot in court to get her age changed. Zore didn’t even meet or talk to or see Natalia before he turned her from a 3rd grader into a drinking aged adult. So have your “opinion” but don’t kid yourself that it’s based on facts. Natalia came over here in July 2008 when she was 4 yrs old according to her original birth certificate. According to Barnetts and their fraudulent age change, she was 18. Seriously, I really find it hard to believe you think an adult passed as a four year old. It’s preposterous. An 18 yr old passing for 4. 🤣😂🤣
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  1868.  @katdoc929  All the x rays, skeletal and dental, said she was a child. None of the actual experts ever testified. All the info is published on the court website. Barnetts do not have one single x Ray saying otherwise. They scammed the courts and the judges dropped the ball. Her 41 yr old birth mom was confirmed via maternity DNA testing. DNA don’t lie.
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  1869.  James Omar  Hey, there you are!! I figured you were still here, we just don’t always run across each other. Plus, your comments might be getting muted like mine are, sporadically. 1 or 2 comments then lights out. Lol. Don’t worry about the blond joke. I knew you were joking. You got a good sense of humor, which is needed with this, cause some of these peeps irritate the heck out of me. You’re definitely one of my fav people. Team Natalia all the way.
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  1870. That’s some serious fiction Barnetts tell, not the Mans
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  1871. Cause she WAS six. Barnetts are the liars.
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  1872. No the Barnetts were not right. They adopted her in 2010. She was 6 back then.
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  1873.  @mofuku9716  Because the mom is a nut job & dad a moron. Adopted for clout then found it too much work. They were reported for neglect and changing her age got them out of it. Losers
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  1874. Your opinion makes me not want you to adopt ever either
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  1875. So how did she manage to get into a Ukrainian orphanage for the Ciccones to match up with when they traveled to Ukraine and adopted her?
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  1876. Ciccione fam adopted her at age 4 and brought her here. Of Course she doesn’t have an accent. No foreign kids adopted into an English Only that young have accents.
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  1877. How about you lead the way and return to the birth country of your ancestors? Pick one, any one
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  1878. Abused elementary school aged children don’t threaten violence. They are terrified of their abusive parents and that’s exactly what the home videos the Barnetts took showed—she was scared of them
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  1879. The prosecution has her records from drs & dentists Barnetts took her to that told Barnetts she was a child. That’s how they ended up arrested
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  1880. C C They did. They all said she was a kid. Of course they concealed those results from the court when they asked that her age be changed. But now the chickens have come home to roost.
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  1881. Joe “Ukraine is part of Russia” Rogan?? Smart fellow /s
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  1882. @Elisa Pino She was already in the US and was a US citizen when the film came out. It’s Barnutts who are using the movie as a template for their alibi
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  1883. It’s already proven that she is now 17, not 31. Her birth mom in Ukraine was found. She really was a child and the Barnetts knew but dumped her anyway
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  1884. So why did they take her home & wait 6 months & then finalize the adoption in their Indiana court? That first night was while still in FL. They never said a peep to anyone. It’s not believable
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  1885. The adoption “story” is the Barnetts version. It sounds like bullsht because it is. They’re lying.
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  1886.  @theglobalexposer4881  If your neighbor walked in your house and took your TV are you telling me you’d do nothing?? Of course not. But Barnetts got ripped off supposedly and did nothing. It’s not believable on its face, and that’s not even considering how fantastical their story is. As for language, don’t take my word for it, google International Adoption Language. Young kids don’t retain their birth language, can’t even understand it by the 6 month mark here or earlier. I’m not surprised the Ciccones aren’t going public. THEY are the ones responsible for her being with the Barnetts and Not with the lovely DePauls who tried to adopt her before Barnetts. According to DePauls something happened to the Ciccones, a “significant loss”, that left them unable to meet her needs. This kid was going to need some 20 surgeries over the course of her childhood. Even before the Barnetts ditched her they neglected her physical needs. She was in pain and they didn’t care. These people are morally bankrupt
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  1887. Do you believe in science? Just asking because the doctors and dentists had determined she was a child. The Barnetts were able to conceal that for years by lying about it. Police got the orig records
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  1888. Hilarious how confidently incorrect you are.
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  1889.  @dougcurrie3025  She’s a US citizen. If they could have made her disappear into Ukraine I’m sure they would have. They have no morals or scruples. They deserve to be prosecuted for their “alleged” crimes
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  1890.  James Omar  You just wouldn’t believe how many lies Kristine told in her book, too A professional liar.
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  1891.  James Omar  As far as I know, No they were not ever actual foster parents. I think they used to help out through their church in providing “respite” care to foster parents who needed a break, having a foster kid spend the night/weekend. But that was just between them and the foster parents, basically letting the kid have a “sleepover”.
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  1892.  @dudove1  Turns out her original documents WERE correct. Her birth mom was found, confirmed by DNA. Another thing, Barnetts were NOT foster parents. I read Kristine’s book. No mention of being foster parents. There is so much bs reported in this case.
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  1893. It’s worse than the fact they have no proof. They actually admit in court documents that she wasn’t in foster care and they got her from the first adoptive parents. So it’s a fact there weren’t 30 fams
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  1894.  James Omar  He did seem more comfortable & like he was really enjoying the attention.
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  1895.  James Omar  You could! It’ll be a slam dunk if the Court of Appeals lets it happen. You’re right that Kristine is the craftier of the two. Since day one.
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  1896.  James Omar  Lol. That guy is such a loser. He wouldn’t last 2 wks in the slammer.
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  1897. Moved them to Canada then LEFT THEM there after 5 months. Came back & divorced Kristine. Accused her of abusing him. As for this case, he admitted it, said she was a child & they knew
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  1898. Hmmm, isn’t that why the parents are lying? For sympathy and to distract from the crimes they committed against her, a genuine child when they ditched her.
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  1899. Riiiight. 20 yr old passing for 6. Sounds super believable. Way more likely than the Barnetts being bad people. /s
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  1900. @Daniel Curiel How are YOU going to believe such a far fetched defense from the ones accused of multiple felonies?
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  1901. Nonsense Ryan
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  1902. Many possible motives to lie. CPS was investigating them, the age change got them off the hook since she wasn’t a child after the age change
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  1903. Probably because she was too much work and preventing the mother was promoting her “genius” son and flying all over the world taking him on interviews. The girl needed like 12+ surgeries. Kristine was going to need to play nursemaid for the next 6-7 years. After that first surgery, she just wasn’t up for the sacrifice for a girl she didn’t give birth too. Made up the stories to get her husband on board. They came up with the scheme to dump her “legally” after getting her age changed. They did it that way to keep it secret. The age change was confidential. Because simply releasing her to the state would have reflected poorly on them and Kristine was getting ready to sign away the movie rights to her book and release her book on how she basically cured her sons autism with her super duper parenting. No one would buy parenting advice from a failed parent. So, money and fame was a motivating factor as well.
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  1904. Nope. They lied
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  1905. Little kids immersed in only English don’t retain an accent. Adults would. So this is more proof of adopted as a little kid
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  1906.  @pico4067  Another poster Camiosis claimed to know the name. She is in a private Facebook group with Kristine. Maybe @Nicole is in the same group. I don’t know
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  1907. XWolven No that is NOT what I’m saying. As I stated above, the 1st family, the Ciccones actually traveled to Ukraine and adopted her there and brought her back to their home state. 2yrs after that, the Ciccones put her up for adoption and selected the Barnetts as her new parents. The Lie is—-“She’s not a child, she’s an adult con artist”.
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  1908. XWolven All her documents reflected her age as born in Sept 2003. The Barnetts hired a lawyer and filed an ex parte motion to change it. There was no opposing party. No independent oversight. Natalia wasn’t at the hearing. It’s crazy to me that a judge was able to change a person’s legal birth certificate. Not by 2 or 3 years, but 14. Can you imagine traffickers pulling this scam? Or chld prn ograohers? And you know, there is NO WAY for the public to even know this is occurring or how often because the courts classify this as falling under “adoption” and the records are kept confidential. What a dangerous policy. She was really a child. The movie Orphan is NOT based on Natalia, but the Barnetts claims clearly mimic the movie. The movie came out in 2009. Natalia was already adopted by the Ciccones (2008) and in their home. Barnetts adopted her in 2010.
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  1909. XWolven First, let’s just think about this. Does it sound the slightest bit plausible, when you really stop to think about it, that an 18yr old, even with dwarfism, could have passed for a 4yr old? Not a 14yr old, or a 12yr old, but a 4yr old? When the first family, Ciccones, traveled to Ukraine and adopted her, she was 4 (July 2008). The Ciccones obviously didn’t have issue with her age, or they’d have backed out. She passed thru US immigration. Those agents are Trained to look for fraud. But no one questioned her Birth Certificate saying Sept 4, 2003. The Ciccones took her for a comprehensive medical exam at Boston children’s hospital. This is the #1 Children’s Hospital in the US for the last 6 yrs. They are affiliated with Harvard Medical School. Those Drs did not question her age. It really just, on it’s face, seems like bullS that the Barnetts claimed she was not born in 2003, but really in 1989. That’s a 14 yr difference!! No way. As far as what the evidence actually says, as opposed to what the Barnetts claimed when they somehow got a judge to sign off on the order changing her birthdate (Without even meeting her!), here’s the police affidavit that lists 2 medical records they looked at. PLUS it lists the exDad confessing https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html. Later, the police also uncovered dental records from 2011 that said she was 8-9; and in 2012 said she was btwn 6-9. Those records formed the basis of new charges added to the original charges https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  1910. They cooked up a scheme, effectuated it, then ditched their disabled child.
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  1911. @Dylan Wills Adult teeth was a lie. Prosecution located her actual dental records the Barnetts concealed https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  1912. Looks like Kristine Barnett is deeper in the hot water. Prosecutor just filed saying she violated the gag order!! Oh no, things are about to get worse for Kristine and she deserves every sleepless night
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  1913. SunnyMoonProductions He has eyes. The ex dad confessed. The drs and dentists all told them she was a kid. Barnetts are the scammers.
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  1914. Sandie they adopted her in 2010 when she was 6. There’s pics where she’s missing baby teeth and adult ones are growing in. She’s clearly aged normally. She’s 16 now.
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  1915. Another family DID go public. The DePauls. And they say she was a sweet little girl. Her current family, the Mans, almost been 8 yrs now and still no psycho behavior. That’s cause Barnetts R liars
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  1916. @Ronnie Jones It’s not an either-or. Dr Phil is an azz. AND all you people believing the criminal defendants preposterous alibi are Wrong.
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  1917.  @jasminspepperpot8156  You had a teenager in front of you. It’s not hard to figure out a child’s age. She had 2 dental exams which proved she was a child. The first one in 2011 estimated 8-9 (her birth certificate said 7); the second in 2012 said 6-9 (her birth certificate said 8). Medical exam results were similar estimates near her birth certificate age (2010 est 8; 2012 est 11).
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  1918. Her birth mother was located, DNA confirmed, Natalia really was born in 2003 and is a victim of grave injustices. You should comment in defense of her rights which are being trampled
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  1919. Why do you believe they’re telling the truth about that? The mom giving her baths only 5 months earlier says she was a child
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  1920. Yes you do when they come over at age 4 and live in an English only family
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  1921. Because she had no choice. She was only 3 wks away from her 9th birthday. They did bring her food for a while. She did have some assistance from a home aid. Until they moved her over an hour away and skipped off to Canada. Probably because people were onto them. Neighbors calling child protective services. No one believed she was an adult. Including the Barnetts. They knew she was a child. Michael admitted it to the detective.
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  1922. If by bone age you mean bone density, that’s correct. But growth plates are a different story. All younger Children have growth plates. Females until 16 on ave. Adults don’t have growth plates. She DID.
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  1923. @James Omar I am totally still with you. I have a lot of irons in the fire. I didn’t speak up with you against the U.K. tuber because it won’t help N if I get banned too. Then no one will be left over there. Just like on punk boys. All the great info I left is gone. I’ve seen how persuasive it is when you just speak from your heart to people, as opposed debating facts like I tend to do, so I’m trying to be less confrontational. When I’ve seen your comment to someone on other threads and I didn’t back it up, it’s because I didn’t want to distract from your message which tends to be powerful. That’s the only reason.
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  1924. @James Omar They probably got fed up with all the seemingly incurably ignorant folks. But I saw new posts on Reddit recently and almost every commenter is on Team Natalia.
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  1925. Yes, the DePauls. DePauls said she lost her first baby tooth with them. Mom DePaul bathed her too and said she was definitely a child. This was about 6 months before Barnetts got her
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  1926. Yes the confidential records are open to the prosecution. No, she did not have 30 other families. She was only adopted ONCE before the Barnetts. The first family is Gary and Dyan Ciccone
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  1927. @Milusik S I did not tell you that you couldn’t express your opinion. I just think your opinion is junk. There is only one dr on Barnetts side. A general practitioner who frankly isn’t qualified to render an opinion, as evidenced by what he wrote in the leaked letter. Getting her subtype of dwarfism incorrect. Referencing a diagnose that doesn’t exist (as he wrote it). You mentioned money motivation for the girl. What money is she getting by “pretending” to be an child? Did you know she gets SSI money that she didn’t qualify for as a child? Once they had her age changed, then she qualified. So if money motivated her, it motivated her to be Older not Younger. You overlook the Barnetts money motivation. First, to shed their financial obligations as parents (saved 10 yrs of supporting their child). But even more, to keep their story (the book Kristine was writing) marketable. Kristine sold the movie rights to her book before the book had even been released (sold rights in 2012, book released April 2013). The entire crux of the book is what an amazing super mom Kristine is. Who would buy a book from a failed parent? No one. So she wanted her gone, her surgical needs prevented traveling and promoting the book ;and interferes with the sons education and would have prevented them moving to Canada for his benefit. But gone in a way that did not reflect badly on them and hurt the book, hurt their pocketbook. So I think Barnetts were motivated by money, not the girl.
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  1928. Maybe you should write the orthopedic surgeon who examined her. All those ex rays he took—a full skeletal survey! And all the years of schooling learning to evaluate epiphyseal plates and determine approximate age of the patient based upon how much of the plate remains. Let him know all he needs to see if how a person smiles. Who needs objective science when you got subjective feelings about a persons age, amirite? Maybe he can hire you to assist? Heck, take over!! Cause that doofus said she was approximately 11 years old in 2012. Then for a second job maybe you could assist the detectives. Who needs actual evidence when you can solve a case by just imaging Motive. If YOU can’t think of a motive then no need to look further. Of course I could suggest a half dozen possible motives, but why muddy the waters
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  1929. Why? They have the most far fetched story that they stole from a Hollywood movie. It’s ridiculous.
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  1930. I believe the doctors who examined her with their God given intellect and determined her to be a child. Barnetts are bearing false witness.
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  1931. She is the age her original birth certificate said was, just like you or I
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  1932. That IS his wife. Her name is Jennifer. Michael & Kristine divorced in 2014. He left Kristine and his sons in Canada only 5 months after moving there, returned to IN and filed
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  1933.  @genovevagalarza7135  She wasn’t an adult. But, yes adults can get legally adopted if they consent to it. Despite the age change, in the eyes of the law the Barnetts are still her legal parents. They could have went to court to attempt to void the adoption, but they did not. Filing to void an adoption is public, it’s not confidential like the age change was (the age change was filed as a confidential adoption proceeding, despite being brought almost 2 yrs after they legally adopted her). The confidential nature of the age change proceeding is what shielded the Barnetts action from others and even from other govt agencies.
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  1934.  @genovevagalarza7135  Yes she was a child. They had options besides leaving her alone. What they did seemed designed to get rid of her without getting publicly dragged for it.
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  1935. She admitted it? Because he said so?? Said so After getting arrested???
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  1936.  @catsayshi5090  Yes I’ve heard of that. I just didn’t think of that as “they” trying to give the kid back, meaning the authorities. It’s more the birth mom/dad trying to get the kid back.
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  1937. @GN77340 She didn’t have wisdom teeth. Still had a lot of baby teeth. Prosecution has the dental records Barnetts were concealing. DePauls went public w/photos too
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  1938. They should have arrested the Barnetts 8 years ago and given the girl a lifetime order of protection
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  1939. Sweet Science Your user name doesn’t check out. Maybe change it to “pseudo science” ?
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  1940. That doesn’t sound like science, @Sweet SCIENCE.
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  1941. Her name is Natalia Barnett. My name is Dawn Smith. What’s yours?
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  1942. Well 11 years ago she looked 6 and had just lost her first baby tooth. I doubt her mother was giving birth to her 2nd child at age 10
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  1943.  @lyssah819  Sure you would. If her birth mother said she was born in 1989 and is a scammer you’d definitely believe her then. Really inconvenient to the Barnetts lies that BM is alive
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  1944. And that the chickens, they do eventually come home to roost. Barnetts are getting what they earned.
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  1945. Not Ukrainian? Yet the Ciccones traveled to Ukraine to adopt her
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  1946. Dr Phil got that wrong. On the show Natalia said that Kristine had told her she was with 30 families. But that totally wasn’t true. Barnetts adopted her from the original adopters.
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  1947. Nonsense
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  1948. Her birthdate is Sept 2003. The dr Phil episode is from Nov 2019. She was 16 then. She is 20 now.
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  1949. You’re scary, walking around with so few brain cells. Ukrainian bio mom passed the DNA test, proving she was a child, born 2003. Barnetts are lying child abusers
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  1950. If you believe she’s actually been with 30 families then you don’t know the facts of this case
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  1951. She’s 16 here. In some cultures that is adult. Doesn’t change the fact that she was a child of 9 when the loser Barnetts dumped her in a low rent apt and high tailed it out of the country
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  1952. How do you know their sons haven’t complained of abuse? Do you know why the sons are estranged from the dad? Long term estranged, since he left them in Canada with the mom only 5 months after he moved there to join them. The dad moved the Canada in August and was back in Indiana by the end of December, and filed for divorce 2 months later. Dad alleged abuse from Kristine in 2016. Said he needed 4 yrs of therapy because of her. Funny he never mentioned any of that is all his interviews.
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  1953. mohammed ahmed Check out the photos. She didn’t just look 6 yrs old, she WAS 6 yrs old. Adults don’t age this dramatically over time https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  1954. According to Ukrainian Law, birth parents if living MUST give permission for their child to be adopted by foreigners. That why DNA confirmed birth mom was contacted. Recall, birth mom was born in 1980. She could not have been married & giving birth at age 9. Clearly Barnetts faked the 1989 birthdate & it really was 2003
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  1955. The public excoriation that Stauffers are getting is WHY the Barnetts cooked up this re-aging scheme. To avoid that because Kristine had a book coming out. It’s not a mystery why they’re lying
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  1956. Obviously the police investigated. For 5 years. And guess what? All the evidence points to the Barnetts being lying degenerates. That’s why THEY got charged. 8 felony counts!!
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  1957. No, Orphan is where the Barnetts got their alibi
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  1958. @Josh Parrish Please tell me how an electric fence can “kill” a person? Seriously. Let’s talk about that claim.
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  1959. This story is past what someone “believes”. The evidence says she was born in 2003, that’s the bottom line
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  1960. The police investigated this for FIVE years. They arrested Barnetts because the evidence showed she was a child
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  1961.  @tuitui4513  Except Barbora didn’t trick parents into adopting her. All the other parents were in the cult with her and conspired WITH her to fool others.
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  1962.  @fabioluisguerraferreira1682  It’s not a coincidence IMO. The Barnetts appear to have fashioned their accusations to mirror the movie. In her first/only interview Kristine is reported to have said “It’s just like Orphan”. Some people are under the mistaken idea that Orphan is a true story. This increases their belief that the Barnetts are telling the truth because they mistakenly believe it’s happened before. I don’t think anyone would believe a criminal defendant saying It Wasn’t Me, It Was Freddie or Jason or Mothman. Not sure why Orphan is looked upon so differently.
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  1963.  @fabioluisguerraferreira1682  How could the movie inspire Natalia when she was already adopted in 2008 by 1st fam Ciccones & already had a birth certificate w/2003 year of birth? Movie came out in 2009. Further, makers of the movie said Barbora Skrlova inspired it?? Are criminal charges a marketing stunt?
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  1964.  @aristired6252  I’m guessing your friend had a bone density test. Bones start getting much denser with puberty. His bones, as far as density, were not developing as fast as they should have. If my analysis of what exactly was tested on him was correct. Ask him. Here is this case, because they left her in 2012, when the skeletal survey said 11, even if they were off by a few more years she’s still well under the age of majority and as such was too young to be put into an apartment alone regardless of assistance. The age analysis didn’t end with medical estimates, however. There were 2 dental analyses also. 2011 saying 8 to 9; 2012 saying 6 to 9.
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  1965. That’s quite a Catch-22 you devised for Natalia. Behaving bad? She’s guilty. Behaving good? She’s still guilty.
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  1966. Maybe unpopular on youT, but the Vast majority on Reddit have a higher intellect and know she was a child from the plethora of publicly available evidence. So, You are in good company.
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  1967. Do children with dwarfism not exist? I don’t get your point
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  1968. @Lil Bill Cami will piss on your leg and then tell you it’s raining. She’s a veritable encyclopedia Of Lies
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  1969.  James Omar  Sometimes a person deserves to be chastised and I’m glad your doing it, with an added helping of humor to boot
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  1970. Why the F would a kid who came over at age 4 still have an accent? If she STILL had an accent—that’d be suspicious. But the absence of an accent tells you she really was a child
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  1971. @Elle Belle That WAS done back in 2011&2012. The dentists concluded that she was between 6&9. Prosecution has the actual records now. Thus, multiple felony charges against Barnetts
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  1972. Exactly right. She was 6. She wasn’t 30 then or now. She just turned 18 but she burdened with an inaccurate amended birth certificate saying she’s 32, compliments of her loser parents the Barnetts.
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  1973. They lied about the little girl. She really was 6. Her birth mother & all her records confirmed this
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  1974. Apparently it’s not hard here either. All it takes is money and boom- Request granted without a hearing, the little girl you were responsible for, for another 10 years, is instantly an adult & you’re off the hook
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  1975.  James Omar  I think the “eye or” was just a typo for “rare”. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s not American. This story went around the globe. I’ve seen Australians commenting!
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  1976.  @yojennyb2136  Natalia is 16 yrs old in that interview. She was 6 yrs old back in 2010 when Barnetts adopted her. The people who tried to adopt her in 2009, the DePauls, said she was with them when she lost her very first baby tooth and they shared the photos. I don’t know what you’re talking about with her eyes. She looks like a teen to me. More telling is what she looked like 10 yrs ago. Because according to the Barnetts she was 20 back then. And there is No Way. She looks like a little girl. She’s losing teeth like a little girl. They claimed she had All Adult teeth and the pictures PROVE that is a lie. Her birth mother said she (the birth mom) was 40. She took the DNA test and it proves she IS the birth mother. She has her original medical documents from giving birth and relinquishing Natalia to the orphanage. There simply is no question any longer that the girl is now a teen and was 6 yrs old when Barnetts adopted her. Unless you believe in “eyes” and Barnetts more than in doctors and dentists and birth mother and original adopters (Ciccones) and “almost” adopters (DePauls) who spent many weekends with her back in 2009.
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  1977.  James Omar  Yup that’s the one. Delusional. But no one ever claims they were mistaken for a kindergartner while an adult. Cause we all know that’d be virtually impossible. Except for Natalia. Only she could pull off a 14 yr age discrepancy as a 4 yr old, apparently. It’s so far fetched. What a joke.
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  1978. Her 40 yr old Ukrainian birth mother was located and confirmed by DNA testing. She has her original records proving the girl really was born in 2003
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  1979. Sherin Mathews was adopted from India. Her adoptive parents had a bio child also. They abused and killed little Sherin, but not their bio child.
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  1980. Violence AGAINST her, not from the disabled 4/5/6/7/8 year old. In fact, the Barnetts said that was a sign she was older —Her abuse allegations were “too detailed”. They are the sickos
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  1981. I’d say the parents being abusers is far more believable. Happens every day.
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  1982. Truth: 1st doctors in 2008 needed a translator. Because she didn’t speak English. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2019/12/12/michael-and-kristine-barnett-face-more-charges-abandoning-natalia/4413571002/ -Dental records from 2011 & 2012 prove she wasn’t any older than 9 https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  1983. Who are all these families that say she scammed or terrorized them? Where are their interviews? The only interview I saw was DePauls, and they are defending her.
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  1984. Team Natalia 🕊️
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  1985.  @isabellavalencia8026  You have to be at least 16 for LARA. “Adult” classes doesn’t mean they’re hard. It’s not college. What adults you know that couldn’t graduate high school? Lol Not the brightest, that’s for sure. If she was doing so great in the apartment then why were Barnetts getting reported the child protection services? Yea, they pulled a fast one. They had money and fame and bought a birth certificate amendment without a hearing. Believe what you want. Who cares about a poor disabled child from Ukraine anyway, amirite?
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  1986.  @isabellavalencia8026  Yes, I know. Because the Barnetts screwed her out of her right to a regular education by changing her age to 22 which is the cut off in Indiana. Kristine signed her up at LARA. They teach English to folks wanting to learn English, and teach basics to folks who couldn’t get a diploma or who dropped out and want a GED.
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  1987. Had no choice in where they left her. GED prep classes for dummies for less than 2 months cause it was better than sitting in utter isolation. This ain’t rocket science
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  1988.  @SillyGoose2024  She’s not a “it” and it’s utterly disgusting that you wrote that. Her having dwarfism changes nothing. Growth plates- same. Lose baby teeth/gain permanent- same
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  1989.  @johndean5036  It’s the court that should have done it’s due diligence before transforming an 8yr old into a 22yr old. Are you aware there wasn’t even a hearing before the judge signed the age change order? They filed a petition, never stepped foot in court, didn’t attach medical or dental records, judge never met Natalia either. That doesn’t strike you as outrageous, the lack of safe guards? Yes, trials are coming, but it’s not going to determine her age or if she was a child when they abandoned her. We will have to wait for a civil trial for that.
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  1990.  @johndean5036  Have you visited the b log? That’s where the pics are, all in order. Unlike the inaccurate reporting. Have you read the probable cause affidavit? That’s were facts are
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  1991.  @johndean5036  They’re lying. Post puberty was a lie. That’s why they cooked up the re-age scheme. They’d have lost a real court case against the agency/prior parents/her.
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  1992.  @joebone3151  “Won the case”? How? There hasn’t been a trial yet. Trials coming this Sept & Oct.
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  1993.  @camiosis  This is Not accurate. Teeth are not a secondary sx characteristic. Besides, they claimed she came to them with all adult teeth already. Pics prove they lied
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  1994.  @ma1achii  Do you really think it’s believable that a 20 yr old sat in a 1st grade classroom and passed for 6? Right off the bat it sounds preposterous
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  1995.  @jaj4706  Natalia is not the bio mom’s first born. Yulia was first born, 4 yrs before Natalia. And bio mom was married to the father. So, again, not possible to give birth AND BE MARRIED AT 6
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  1996.  @joseortega-us6rn  Hey Jose, I don’t see a link (if you posted one?), but thanks for the heads up, I’ll check those stories out.
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  1997.  @its.nyashia  You too. If you’re interested, you can read up on your own, not someone’s opinion. The court website has their filings public. It’s mycase.in.gov Michael P Barnett
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  1998.  @its.nyashia  It was the original adopters who gave her to them. They brought her to the agency and handed her over. Their name is Ciccone. The dad is an architect and the mom is a Harvard educated writer. After taking custody the Barnetts had to wait 6 months, then they went to court in Indiana and finalized the adoption. What’s wrong with that? As for the age change judge, he really screwed up. There wasn’t a trial or hearing or anything. They didn’t even have to go to court. The motion was filed and 11 days later he signed it and ordered her birth year changed. Sight unseen.
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  1999. The judge didn’t eyeball this kid on the streets and haul the parents in to give them an amended birth certificate for her. They filed the motion. They asked the court for the order. Knowing all along she was a kid
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  2000. Who GAF about about a made up movie?
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  2001. F all those degenerates who did you wrong!! Everybody knows WTF happens but still pretend all foster/adoptive parents R saints
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  2002. Actually she didn’t. That was a lie
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  2003. Born 2003 Ukraine. Adopted 2008. Re-adopted by Barnetts 2010. Birth certificate changed 2012. Put in Westfield Apt 2012. Put in LaFayette apt July 2013. Barnetts move to Canada July/August 2013. Mans take her in Aug 2013. Barnetts arrested/charged Sept 2019. Trials scheduled for Mike Sept 2020, Kristy Jan 2021
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  2004. There was no facade dingdong, only that which was perpetrated by the diabolical Barnetts
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  2005. Dr Phil is an idiot, but not for believing she is a minor. Because she IS a minor. Phil’s an idiot for saying she was with 30 families when she was NOT. There’s actual documentation proving that
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  2006. She has the confidence of a girl who has been loved unconditionally since joining the Mans family almost 7yrs ago. She has healed a great deal. The power of Love. Something Barnetts know nothing about.
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  2007. What a POS that guy
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  2008. She’s lucky the Mans rescued her before a worse tragedy struck. She really was a child. Her birth mother was located and her original records confirm it
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  2009. Considering that there is actual physical objective evidence that proves she’s a minor, plus the documentary evidence from her birth mom, plus dad Michael confessed, Dr Phil was right
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  2010. brie T The Prosecution has boat loads of evidence. They are guilty as charged.
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  2011. She was just 16. Her birth mother was tracked down and DNA confirmed. The Barnetts have been lying this whole time. Talking periods & hair, it was all bull.
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  2012. Because she came over at age four and lived with native English speakers.
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  2013. Look up her condition- Diastrophic Dysplasia. The ears are one of the signs. That’s also why the Barnetts family dr is proven incompetent. He misdiagnosed her type dwarfism despite her ears
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  2014. @Liora Sitelman Have you seen Ready To Glare’s exclusive video? Here’s the link https://youtu.be/vBSl9jS4oFI She was directly in touch with Nicole DePaul. You may have seen the DePauls interview w/inside edition. They wanted to adopt Natalia from the original adoptive fam (Ciccones) but weren’t able to. Then she ended up w/Barnetts. Nicole has the exact subtype of dwarfism as Natalia (Diastrophic Dysplasia). Sometimes people w/DD are born with cleft palates, but if they are not (and you can see Natalia was not) their dental development is the same as a person without DD. The DePauls spent a number of weekends with Natalia back in Aug-Dec 2009. Nicole bathed Natalia (who was 6 at the time). The DePauls went public to say that Barnetts are lying and Natalia was a child. They have a daughter who was 4 at the time. They said Natalia lost her 1st tooth while with them. There really is overwhelming evidence that proves Natalia was a child, now a teen.
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  2015. Liora Sitelman Read what the dentists said. She was definitely a child https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  2016. “Find” the adoption center?? Lol. Like they’re missing?? Lol.
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  2017. Keep trying Rene. No matter how many times you repeat the Barnetts claims, it will never be true. They are terrible parents and belong behind bars
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  2018. @Iro Peti Actually I have seen many derogatory remarks about the Mans. Things like: They look like scammers; They’re in on it; There’s just something about them I don’t trust; They’re just in it for the money; They adopt children for the money; They take in kids so they don’t have to work; They’re trying to scam the Barnetts. And those are mild compared to other ones. The worst I’ve seen are suggestions there’s something sxual going on with Natalia and one or both of the Mans. It’s been pretty brutal in a way I don’t thing would happen if the Mans looked like the Barnetts.
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  2019. @Iro Peti I’m not “accusing” Pearl Jammm. But this is America, of course race plays a part. The Good Samaritans who rescued her are being lambasted, while the child abusers get support
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  2020. @Iro Peti lol good one
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  2021. Which family? The white middle class parents who were charged with crimes? Or the mixed race working class parents who rescued her almost 8 yrs ago?
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  2022.  @kassiecook3884  Who says she bled? The arrested parents. The people who claimed she was 14 years older than her birth certificate. Are they credible?Their whole story is an Orphan rip off
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  2023. Don’t be absurd. Kid’s been living a quiet uneventful life for the last 7 yrs. Barnetts FINALLY get arrested and she’s the psycho? This kids been screwed over, Hard, through NO fault of her own
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  2024. So all you gotta do to get out of jail Free is make accusations against your victim. Next time mom’s boyfriend kills her kid, he can just say the kid threatened him first. Amirite?
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  2025. She grown now, because over 10 yrs have past since they adopted her. But she’s still a minor and deserved better. The Barnetts crazy defense is just that—crazy
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  2026. That’s a Barnett lie
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  2027.  @mikerestani7490  Speaking of IRS scams, are you aware that Michael Barnett claims the adoption agency Cold Called them?? If you believe that I think it is YOU who’d fall for the IRS scams
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  2028. She is. The Mans have done a good job raising her and helping her heal.
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  2029. @EDEN MARIE JOHNSON The daughter of the DePauls, Mackenzie, was interviewed along with her parents. She has said only good things about her time w/Natalia.
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  2030. Looks like your equipment needs to be recalibrated cause you are totally wrong here
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  2031. Their son wasn’t famous when they adopted her. Her and her needing 20+ surgeries got in the way of bio son. They couldn’t move to Canada with her. Back then Canada wasn’t letting disabled immigrate.
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  2032. They weren’t lied to. They are the liars. This girl’s birth mother was found and she was telling the truth all along.
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  2033. Cause they were writing a book about what amazing parents they were. No one buys a book from a loser parent who gives their kid away.
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  2034. Barnetts lawyers aren’t going to let their guilty clients do that.
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  2035. You have no idea what you’re talking about. The doctors said she was a child. The dentists said she was a child. Her birth mother has proof she was a child.
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  2036. Parents ditched a child & borrowed claims from a fictional movie after they got caught. And folks are bashing HER? Too bad She doesn’t get to quit
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  2037. She saw an endocrinologist and orthopedic surgeon at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital, in 2010 & 2012. They determined she was a child, estimated 8 & 11.
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  2038. Cynthia stepped in and raised a girl that Kristine threw away like yesterday’s newspaper. That woman is a saint.
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  2039. You’re an idiot. The medical records the prosecution has, that proves she was a child, were from doctors Barnett took her to. Records Barnetts concealed.
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  2040. I don’t believe them saying it was some cold call. Because Michael talked about how they were in the process of adopting a girl from Haiti when the hurricane hit and put a halt to it. So I think it was probably the same agency or a sister agency that called them because that’s just too coincidental. Then Kristine in her interview revealed that they met the first family at the agency. They said the first family brought her to the agency. Kristine said she didn’t question why they were giving her up, she said “out of respect” for their difficult situation. So how can that be a closed adoption? When you actually meet the other parents? I think that proves the Barnetts are lying about those issues, and if they’re lying about things it ruins their credibility
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  2041.  @rosa4660  Journal and Courier Aug 27 2020
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  2042. Her pictures show her maturing from a young child to a teen. https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  2043.  James Omar  You’re not missing anything. We just have two different styles which lead to the same answer—she was a child and they knew.
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  2044. You nailed it! The only thing is—she DID have at least 2 of the evaluations you mentioned, and it’s all in the 1st and 2nd probable cause affidavits. GROWTH PLATES-She had a full skeletal survey in June 2012 at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital. Based upon her growth plates her age was estimated as approx 11; Earlier (2010) an endocrinologist est her age as about 8. DENTAL- Exam by EZ Dental in 2011 est her age as 8 or 9; In 2012 Dentist Ronald Deckard took ex rays and est her age as btwn 6-9. The idea that she was a secret adult is one of Barnett’s making. They took her to these Drs. They Knew.
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  2045. Except they made it all up, Margaret. She really was a 6 yr old little girl when they got her. On top of neglecting & abandoning her, they’re trying to discredit her & the truth
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  2046. Neighbors are liars
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  2047. Yanni Dior Six was her real age. They adopted her May 2010. She’s 16 now.
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  2048.  @krustycrb7182  You’ve got a good point. Dr Phil got a lot wrong, but at least he got it right when he said a grave miscarriage of justice occurred. That was an understatement
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  2049. Don’t know if you just suck at math, or don’t know the different dates of events in this case. There is no contradiction in her being 16 on Dr Phil and her being 6 when Barnetts adopted her
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  2050. That lil actress even looks like Kristine Barnett. What a bad seed she is
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  2051.  @bearandrabbit6826  You sound unhinged. Get a grip.
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  2052. You’re just a big story teller. Nice try. Oh and there is no question she’s from Ukraine. Her birth mother was located (in Ukraine) & DNA confirmed
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  2053. Anime Anna She was 6 when they adopted her in 2010. She is 16 today. Who’s the dumb one now?
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  2054. Anime Anna Your brain cell must get very very lonely.
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  2055. Watch the docuseries The Curious Case of Natalia Grace. Season 2 airs Jan 1, 2024. Then you’ll know the truth
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  2056. @me Thats a great video! Thanks for sharing. I love the outside-of-the-box problem solving
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  2057. I believe Natalia 💯
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  2058. If you read the actual court documents you would be on her side. Because her medical and dental evaluations confirmed she was a child (she’s 17 now)
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  2059. @Dylan Wills Sorry, I assumed you knew about this case considering the comment you made. The Mans are the family who took Natalia in after the Barnetts put her in the LaFayette apt and moved to Canada. Publicly they’ve adopted the stance that they had no idea where she had gone. Canada was for their bio son Jacob who was accepted into a special physics program at Perimeter. Canada in 2013 had a policy of denying immigration to the disabled that might need “excessive” healthcare. Natalia needed many surgeries. This is but one possible reason for leaving her behind.
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  2060. Dylan Wills They why were they calling and texting the Mans?
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  2061. Ladenna Young Thats what he said, that it was a rush. What he didn’t reveal was that the adoption wasn’t even finalized until 6 months later. In an Indiana court.
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  2062. The Joker Gee, IDK. How about we put the Barnetts on trial? Give them their constitutional right to a trial? Let their evidence be viewed against aaalllllll the state’s evidence.
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  2063. This case is NOT SEALED. I’ve been following along all this time on the court website. Maybe you’re confusing this criminal case with the age change case. The AGE case of 2012 was sealed, because they classified it as Confidential Adoption Records. But this criminal case is NOT SEALED. Sorry if this throws cold water on your little conspiracy rant
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  2064. Yes it’s not a very original alibi the Barnetts are selling.
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  2065. Young Reap They adopted her in 2010. So she was 6 back in 2010. Barnetts claim she wasn’t 6 then, but was actually 20. That’s the story they’re sticking to
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  2066. @camiosis Whatever Pin🤥cchi🤥
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  2067. @camiosis Whatever Pin🤥cchi🤥
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  2068. The 40yr old Ukrainian Birth mother, confirmed by DNA, hospital/birth/relinquishment paperwork, all says the same thing-Natalia was born 2003. Barnetts are lying child abusers
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  2069. @camiosis Whatever Pin🤥cchi🤥
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  2070. @camiosis Whatever Pin🤥cchi🤥
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  2071. @camiosis You don’t need to wait for a ruling to stop #LYING. You can do that anytime. If you’re capable, that is. Ask your doctor & therapist for help. Your family will thank you.
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  2072. @camiosis You are a straight up #LIAR. That’s why you didn’t post a link to the “Article”. Sit your crazy azz down and stop lying (edit The jconline article does not talk about the baloney claims you made concerning the first family and records older than 2003. #Pinocchio)
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  2073. @camiosis Post proof of YOUR claim the Ciccones had medical records for N predating 2003. Still waiting #Pinocchio
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  2074. @camiosis Barnetts victory celebration short lived!!! Lololol.
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  2075. @James Omar I’m familiar w/that book. Yes, when people end up alone it is usually because of who they are as people. It catches up with them eventually. Just as it’s caught up with the Barnetts. Just as it’s likely caught up w/Scamiosis
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  2076. @James Omar All I can say is that she is a perfect example of the kind of person M. Scott Peck wrote about in his book People of the Lie. If you don’t recognize that title, you might recognize a better known work of his, The Road Less Traveled. I hope she is not in a position of power to hurt anyone in real life. I feel sorry for anyone who has the misfortune of being related to her, by blood or by choice. Natalia is small but she has a big heart and a keen intellect. She has people who love her, really truly love her. I know she will be ok no matter what happens.
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  2077. @James Omar Look at that- Even in this response to you scamiosis still slips in her FABRICATED reference to the 1st families “documents” that Do Not Exist except in the mind of Scamiosis
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  2078. @camiosis The Birth mom was born in 1980. Safe to say Natalia was NOT born in 1989.
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  2079. @camiosis #ReadItAndWeep Biotch!! https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  2080. @James Omar You are gonna LOVE this! 1st Just reported today, THE BIRTH MOTHER is CONFIRMED by DNA. Unequivocally proves Natalia was born Sept 2003. PROVEN. Woo hoo. 2nd Barnutter posted Fake News. Lol. No, absolutely Michael’s charges have NOT been dismissed. Lol. His attorney was counting his chickens before they hatched!!!!! I’m am celebrating!! 3rd Prosecution contends that Marion County did NOT have authority to change Natalia’s age in the first place. Says that order is VOID. Since Natalia was adopted in Hamilton Co and since Hamilton Co issued the 2003 birth certificate with Barnetts listed as parents, that Marion Co did NOT have authority to issue an amended birth certificate!!!! So the prosecution is appealing the dismissal of 6 out of 8 charges and is contesting the possible dismissal of Mikes 6 out of 8 charges. SO BIG BIG (I think) DAY for Natalia and for Justice. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  2081. @James Omar Get this. Mike followed up Kristine’s partial dismissal with a motion to dismiss of his own. The hearing was held yesterday. BUT, the judge did not rule to dismiss any of his charges. The judge ruled that he was taking it “under advisement”. This mean the judge will give a ruling at some unspecified point in the future. Lol. Could this mean that Kristine has outsmarted Michael once again? Did she leave him holding the bag after he helped get some of her charges dismissed? Time will tell. But as of today ALL 8 felony counts against Michael still stand.
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  2082. @Jenifer Clark Yes, she definitely had a baby face then, but not now. As you would expect for a girl aging from a child to a teen.
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  2083. @Rohan Tandra Considering that the medical literature says periods come generally between 9-15, who gives AF? It doesn’t mean “OMG ADULT”
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  2084. @camiosis Adoption Fraud was never alleged. Thus, Adoption fraud was never proven. And they had an attorney who was an adoption Expert!! She must have told them they didn’t have a case.
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  2085. @camiosis Natalia is not a police officer, therefore Natalia CANNOT write a “police affidavit”. Lol. 1) Cops knew she was an adult on paper but a child in real life chronologically 2) Yes she was/is living with a loving family ((You know, the Mans, the dad you refer to as a “False Prophet for Profit”)). Living completely unsupported by her legal parents—a crime 3) That’s a LIE. But It’s a very interesting choice of Lie considering you have to prove Abuse to get a No Contact order. So Basically you’re saying that a judge agreed that Barnetts were abusive. 4) I bet she was diagnosed, with PTSD from how they treated her.
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  2086.  @galipselvi3832  I believe that love makes us family. When you marry, that person becomes your family, yet you are not blood related. Your children are the bloodline of both of you but you both are not the bloodline of each other. And you are still family. It is the same with an adopted child. .
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  2087.  @galipselvi3832  I get what you’re saying about basically informally adopting without making it legal. That has serious pitfalls. What if your “dad” is in the hospital dying, only Legal family gets a say. What if the informally adopted child if left brain damaged from a car accident? Who cares for the child and manages the insurance payout? Generally legal parents, or a paid guardian will take over. What about inheritance rights? What about grandparents rights (only applies to your legal adult child’s children)? From a legal standpoint alone a legal adoption provides legal and constitutional protections.
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  2088. They didn’t want her anymore but didn’t want to look like jerks. Might’ve blew the pending book & movie deal about what stellar parents they were. So they cooked up the age change scheme
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  2089. Barnetts seem like pretty good liars. Lots of experience
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  2090. She’s been with them, in their home, since 2013? Literally 3 times as long as she was in the Barnetts home (only 2 yrs w/Barnetts). If Barnetts were telling the truth, she wouldn’t still be there
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  2091. Not all, they still face 2 felony counts
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  2092. She didn’t. Barnetts are lying
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  2093.  @camiosis9024  Exactly. 4 charges dismissed. 4 remain. And a bonus— Kristine violated the gag order so there’s a hearing about that too🤣💰
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  2094.  @camiosis9024  I’m still waiting for you to tell the truth
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  2095.  @camiosis9024  Wow, you sparksters are really delusional. What a word salad 🥗
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  2096.  @camiosis9024  More entitlement from Kristine. Thinks the rules don’t apply to her. Can’t wait til May for the hearing about her violating the Gag Order. Then their trials on 5 counts in Sept/Oct🍿
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  2097. tracy detrick She didn’t even speak English when she came here at 4. Med records show drs had to call in a translator. It’s not even noteworthy that she no longer has an accent
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  2098. Then why did they turn that sweet little girl they adopted into a legal adult?
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  2099. Not only were the charges NOT DROPPED, but they added 4 NEW CHARGES. The lying Barnetts are facing 20 years
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  2100. Jak carn Ummm, their trials are scheduled for June and July. They’re out on bail right now. SIX felonies they are charged with. This ain’t no joke
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  2101. Muhammad Tauqeer What the F does Joe Rogan know? That’s a nonsense claim.
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  2102. @DrewSorensenMusic You did propose testing for EVERYONE involved, correct?
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  2103. DrewSorensenMusic So a criminal should have their own charges DROPPED if they refuse to be polygraphed? Great plan.
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  2104.  @BB-hx1ei  If you have something specific in mind, I’ll try to be more specific. I don’t think this site will allow me to post a direct link. Look up Indiana Court Records to find the courts website, with you can search by name and look under Kristine Barnett for documents posted. Also Michael P Barnett. The blog for Natalia has a lot of links/photos/documents also (Justice For Natalia Grace). The State is attempting to hold them responsible for abandoning their daughter. The criminal court Judge, Meyer, thinks that legal technicalities of Res Judicata, Collateral Estoppel and Statute of Limitations, means the state cannot prosecute them for crimes against a child, cannot argue she was a child and cannot present the evidence proving she was a child. The State obviously disagrees and wants to present all the evidence to a jury and let the jury decide if she was a child or not. This narrow issue is currently before the Court of Appeals. The trials are on hold until the higher court makes a determination.
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  2105.  @camiosis9024  You must have me confused with someone else. I’m the one advocating for medical science. Natalia had growth plates. Adults don’t have growth plates. X rays don’t lie
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  2106. Well, her DNA confirmed birth mom is 41 and already was married/separated & had a 4 yr old when Natalia was born. 30’s is simply not possible given the known facts.
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  2107. She was NEVER in foster care. She went from 1st family Ciccones to the Barnetts. Michael talked about this in his numerous interviews
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  2108. @Yanna Cookie If it was true that she was older, they wouldn’t be charged with 8 Felony counts. It would have been dismissed. But instead they’ve added to the charges.
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  2109. Pretty mind blowing that people are buying this utter B.S. Brainless.
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  2110. Her DNA confirmed birth mother is 41. Thats gotta be a new record for youngest mother.
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  2111. Nope. Barnetts are lying. The tests showed she was a child
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  2112. Only the so-called parents, the Barnetts.
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  2113. First, she’s not an adult. Second, she wasn’t interviewed by Stephanopoulos. Which is a shame, because more people would’ve seen that Barnetts are the sociopathic scammers, not her
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  2114. More like no way are the Barnetts going to admit on National television to being degenerate losers who abandoned a disabled child because she was inconvenient to their aspirations
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  2115.  @GHMilly  Like I already said, if you want to believe in falsehoods, that’s your choice. If you want facts, go to the court website.
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  2116.  @GHMilly  Thats incorrect. If you want to believe falsehoods, that’s your choice. If you’re interested in the truth you can go to the Indiana court records website where many documents from this ongoing case are posted. The Barnetts motioned the court to change her age to 22. They withheld her medical records because Dr Riggs had told them she was about 8, and a skeletal survey at Payton Manning estimated her age at about 11. They withheld her dental records because EZ Dental in 2011 told them she was btwn 8-9, and Dr Deckard in 2012 told them she was btwn 6-9. The Judge signed the order to change her birth year from 2003 to 1989 without even holding a hearing. He never laid eyes on her before turning her from an elementary aged child to a drinking aged adult.
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  2117.  @GHMilly  The Barnetts weren’t told she was 22. They are the ones doing the telling. They told the court that. Now everyone should know they lied because her records & birth M were located.
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  2118.  @GHMilly  The ones who did speak to everyone and look at everything were the police, who investigated for 5 yrs before the Barnetts were charged.
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  2119. You’re combining 2 Barnett stories into 1. They told a story of a play date with a girl who had the same type of dwarfism. Where are they? You don’t see them speaking out in defense of Barnetts, do ya?? Next they claim a friend who spoke Ukrainian talked to her and she didn’t understand. No sht. For 2 reasons, which the Barnetts are well aware of. First, Ukrainian was NOT Natalia’s native tongue. It was Russian. As proven by her medical records from the first family, where the dr noted he had to use a Russian translator. Second, this was at a minimum 2 years after Natalia migrated. An internationally adopted child will lose their ability to speak their native language in about 6 months. This is well supported in the adoption literature. The Barnetts would be well aware of this fact. Michael Barnett went so far as to say they didn’t believe she was from Ukraine (on Dr Oz). Even though that giant liar was in possession of the Ciccone’s Ukrainian adoption decree of Natalia. So pathetic. Now even her Ukrainian birth mother was found and DNA confirmed. Her hospital records prove she gave birth to a baby with dwarfism on Sept 2003 and the orphanage records prove Natalia was admitted as a baby Sept 2003. The Barnetts are lying child abusers. Don’t feel sorry for them. Dr Phil is a putz, but Natalia is the age that was on her original birth certificate.
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  2120. Some people adopt for all the wrong reasons. Barnetts had no business adopting this girl. Thankfully she has a decent family now
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  2121. @Hannah Marlow Yes, me too
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  2122. Bio mom in Ukraine is getting DNA tested; Additional charges for Barnetts, causing serious bodily harm, a level 3 felony=poss. 20 yrs prison; trials scheduled for June/July; DePauls defending her
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  2123. They didn’t “find out” she was an adult. They made that up and were successful with their lies, until the detective’s dogged determination located the evidence to prove she was a child.
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  2124. She was rescued by the family she is still with. It’s been 7 yrs now.
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  2125. I think Kristine has the attachment disorder. She couldn’t form an attachment to this girl, so she lies & abuses, has zero empathy and takes no responsibility
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  2126.  @郑枨玚  No, her dental records were referenced in court filings. Results: 2011 est age 8–9, 2012 est age 6–9. NO other dental records referred to
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  2127.  @ruyboxe  Correction: I did NOT say “molesters”. That word has a wholly different connotation and they were not accused of sa.
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  2128.  @ruyboxe  You don’t know what the real truth really is. I’m not trying to be mean, but you are mistaken and unintentionally supporting child abusers
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  2129.  @ruyboxe  Being in the US I can access the court website & read the evidence directly. You cannot access this from outside the US (without a proxy server). So, I’m not only going by reporting. Did you know her birth mother was found & confirmed by a DNA test?
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  2130.  @ruyboxe  Whatever you read/saw wasn’t about her. Gary & Dyan Ciccone of New Hampshire went to Ukraine & adopted her from Nikolaev Baby Orphanage in July 2008. She was 4. Never adopted before Ciccones
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  2131.  @ruyboxe  You must have her confused w someone else. ALL of her testing (bone density, growth plates, dentition) said she was a child. It’s in court docs
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  2132. Adult’s hands and heads don’t increase in size. That kinda growth stops once you reach adulthood. Hers grew= was a child then
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  2133. How about this is why you don’t allow judges add 14 years to a child’s birth certificate without a court hearing?
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  2134. Seeing as how this Indiana couple lied about her, abused her & abandoned a disabled child, maybe you should avoid Indiana instead
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  2135. Is that Joe “Ukraine is in Russia” Rogan? Never heard of him
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  2136. And if she really wasn’t a child, Barnetts would have went to court to void the adoption. But they didn’t. They are still her legal guardians/parents to this day.
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  2137. Attempted murder? Where’s the hospital records that shows she was injured? Is it possible to attempt to murder someone but not hurt them In Any Way??No Records=No Attempt
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  2138. IF the Barnetts story was true, she’d have been arrested and deported long ago. But she wasn’t, was she? Nope. The detectives finally got the proof she was a child all along. Even birth mom confirmed
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  2139. Wrong. She came over in 2008 w/Ciccones. Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones. She wasn’t ever in foster care. Their were no “30 families”. And it’s Barnetts who were reported to CPS
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  2140. @James Omar Incapable of HONEST dialogue
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  2141. Actually her birth mother was located and DNA confirmed. The girl was born in 2003, was exactly the age Barnetts were told. They abandoned a disabled child.
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  2142. “Cauliflower Ear” is a defining sign of her subtype of dwarfism, Diastrophic Dysplasia. It’s caused by her cartilage disorder, as opposed to how boxers acquire it due to trauma.
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  2143.  @Will324  Are you asking where to find the evidence? I can point you to it. Can you point me to evidence supporting the Barnetts assault claims? Please do so
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  2144.  @Will324  I’m not part of this case, Bill. The evidence is not mine.
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  2145.  @Will324  Why should you believe me? You don’t know me. But people who care about justice ask where they can find the evidence I speak of. You aren’t one of them
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  2146.  @Will324  Not anymore is she a child, but she certainly was back when they adopted her. X rays don’t lie & cannot be faked. She’s had many many x rays. If all you’ve done is watch a few videos I can understand why you’re so misled.
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  2147. Kristine took her to EZ Dental in 2011 and requested an age analysis. After x rays the dentist said she was between 8 & 9. So they KNEW she was a child. They just didn’t care.
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  2148. Here’s a life pro tip for ya, since you’re clearly incapable of determining WHO is a “con”: When Microsoft calls & needs remote access to your computer...its not really Microsoft. Your welcome.
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  2149. Megan Langreck I’ve been checking Peter Hyatt’s blog but haven’t seen anything about this there. If you watch Kristine’s Daily Mail video, she uses a lot of present tense for past occurrences, which Hyatt always talks about, but I’m no expert.
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  2150. @Miracle Love 30 families my azz. That’s what Barnetts want you to believe. But remember all those interviews Mike gave? He said 2 things that Prove this 30 families story is nonsense. (1) That she was only relinquished 5 minutes before Barnetts arrived at the agency. So how was she with 30 families when she was STILL in the custody of the original adopters?? (2) He said when the agency called them they had 24hrs to decide Or Else She Would Go Into Care. Again, proving she was NOT already IN foster care. So how could she have been with 30 families?? This 30 families is nothing but a Lie, something Barnetts told to make it look like they weren’t the monsters.
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  2151.  James Omar  This has got to be you-know-who. Lol. What a lying freak.
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  2152. @iiiStxrry Night シ I thought my comment made it clear that I believe the girl
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  2153. Don’t you mean “Does anyone actually believe these freaks with the ripped-from-a-movie-script defense?”
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  2154. @Mel Bags BioM has the birth certificate and it’s the same birthdate as the one Barnetts were given. It was also reported BioM has pregnancy/birth/relinquishment documents that also confirmed she was born in Sept 2003. Why shouldn’t BioM be able to testify? It’s a miracle she was even located and was willing to be involved. She easily could have been deceased by now. You read that a lot—an adopted person locates their birth mom identity only to find out she passed before they could meet. I think it’s time for the truth to come out.
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  2155. @Mel Bags She didn’t have breasts as proven by the photos. As for hair, that’s their story, but you usually get hair the same time ur getting breasts, so I doubt she did. There’s been a lot happening recently and it’s been reported on. Judge dismissed the neglect based on age charges because he said he cannot overrule the 2012 legal age change. He didn’t weigh the new evidence because it doesn’t matter. All that matters is the 2012 ruling. Prosecution revealed about the BioMom and plans to appeal the dismissal because the new evidence proves she was born in 2003 and says the jury should decide her age after hearing all the evidence. So an appeal is coming. Meanwhile they still face 2 felony neglect charges based upon disability.
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  2156. Wrong. Just revealed the bio mom was CONFIRMED via DNA. Absolutely proved Natalia was born in 2003. Barnetts are scum.
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  2157.  @kjc1878  The salient part is Barbora didn’t trick any innocent family into adopting her, thinking her a child. As James said, there’s never been a case of an adult passing as a kindergartner
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  2158.  @kjc1878  Lol You got taken by the YouTube fiction version of Barbora Skrlova. Americans love a good story. The real Barbora was the daughter of a cult leader. Her dad formed a cult that was the offshoot of the Grail Movement. The two different families she lived with were in the cult. They didn’t think she was a child. They knew exactly who she was and were in on it. Including the parents of the real Adam, who passed Barbora off as Adam and let her use Adam’s identification. She did eventually do prison time for her child abuse crimes along with the sister she lived with. The movie Orphan was INSPIRED by Barbora. It was not even close to the real story. Came out in 2009. Barnetts adopted Natalia in 2010. Don’t be so gullible
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  2159. Those were the Barnetts claims. The criminal defendants claims. Just like family annihilator Chris Watts claimed Shanann killed the children. Preposterous
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  2160.  @queenqutie9236  I like turtles 🐢
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  2161.  @queenqutie9236  This comment makes no sense either
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  2162. Your comment makes no sense
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  2163. Dr Phil can read, can’t he? 2 specialists from a respected children’s hospital said she was a child https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2164. @Elliott Feaster How can you say “useless” when he’s USED his degrees to get his talk show gig.
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  2165. Naw, her DNA confirmed birth mother is only 41. And she has the original hospital birth records from when she gave birth to her in 2003. Natalia was actually a child
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  2166. Barnetts knew her condition & were provided a list of surgeries she needed Before they adopted her. After adopting, their son started getting famous & her needs conflicted w/promoting him
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  2167. I hate the dog analogy. But really this is more like if animal control gets a report on an abused dog and visits the home and finds the dog all beat up and injured. Then the owners lie & claim the dog attacked their child so the injuries were justified and necessary to save their child. But x rays show older injuries and many healed fractures. The x rays prove the dog had been being abused. Just like here—Natalia’s skeletal and dental x rays prove she was a young child. Barnetts are lying. The x rays tell the truth.
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  2168. I’m thinking society needs protecting from you
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  2169. Ok, Teen then. She’s 17, turning 18 this year
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  2170. Sure looks can deceive when you’re past puberty & the age you’re pretending is also past puberty. BUT that is a far cry from believing a 20yr old w/Diastrophic Dysplasia could EVER pass for 6.
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  2171. So is Dr Riggs a quack? Dr Riggs estimated her age as about 8 yrs old in 2010
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  2172. The Ciccones chose the Barnetts over the little couple. The Barnetts told the little couple that everything was Great and Natalia was wonderful. Barnetts made the lil couple think Natalia was in Ca w/them. WHY??
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  2173. @James Omar Isn’t that what these people do? Post nonsense dribble then silence the voices of reason? If you read further on her you see she got her start by writing about her family’s “true” encounter with a terrifying PARANORMAL entity. Yea, “TRUE”, lolololol. And she’s sold millions of books since then!!!! Like my grandpa always said, “A fool and their money are soon parted”. Who buys this crap??? Every time I think I’ve wrapped my head around the idiocy that exists in the world, I’m shown even more absurdity. The same people who buy her books are also allowed to Vote. I can’t even.......
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  2174. Start with the Barnetts and their preposterous claims
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  2175. Ooh, better tell all those unmarried dad’s that their paternity tests are worthless, cause they gave blood at a lab and not the court. Besides, it can’t prove they’re dad, maybe they’re Uncle/brother 🤣😂🤣
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  2176.  @alonaharris1983  It’s improbable, not impossible. But Anna would have had to have a baby at 8, because Natalia is her second child. Ever hear of Occam’s Razor?
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  2177.  @CicoinTokyo777  That’s why I didn’t say impossible. It’s possible, but highly unlikely, especially since Natalia was her second child
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  2178.  @lumenpierce8583  The birth mom was confirmed via DNA testing. See the previous link I posted a month ago from Journal & Courier jconline Their reporter has covered this from the beginning (edit spelling)
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  2179.  @secretlybees  It’s a sad commentary on the general intelligence and biased nature of the population
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  2180.  @tovah8841  No one is “the thirty year old Natalia.” Even NATALIA isn’t “the thirty year old Natalia.” She’s 17, and I’m not her.
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  2181.  @geekfreak2000  Kinda hard to be 30 when your birth mom is 40. DNA confirmed. Has all the receipts proving her birth daughter is 17 today https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  2182.  @FrankCosbyNo-Relation  That’s “Trump” vocabulary? That’s news to me, probably because I don’t pay attention to him
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  2183. Called DHS? Lol They were running from DHS. That’s why they left the country
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  2184. Isn’t the Barnett’s perspective absurd on its face? I mean seriously. She was 14 years older than her birth certificate? So a 19 yr old sat in kindergarten & fooled teachers? Not to mention Drs??🤣
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  2185. Adoptive parents are just like biological parents. They can be good or bad. Just cause they’re adopters doesn’t mean they have noble intentions or can’t be abusive
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  2186.  @jaxxoceans3866  “Exact age” is the key phrase. Exact age-No. Within 3 years of exact age-Yes, when your dealing with a child (even with Natalia’s condition of Diastrophic Dysplasia)
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  2187. Good hearted people don’t fraudulently change their child’s age just so they can leave her behind “legally”. You know, Mike Barnett confessed. He admitted she was a child
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  2188. wesh asawi Yes, like the skeletal survey she had at Payton Manning Children’s Hospital June 2012 estimating her age at 11; same month Barnetts got it changed to 22. They’re cold n calculating
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  2189. @Rosanne Lewis They adopted a child and she was a child. Barnetts are lying. No adult has ever successfully passed as a kindergartner. She passed cause she WAS a child
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  2190. @Santo Parfano Feel free to keep believing an alibi that is ripped from a movie script and improbable on its face. Supporting child abusers is creepy and telling, too
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  2191. @Santo Parfano Barnetts are the psychopaths. I prefer actual science over wondering about motive. Why did Dahmer eat people? There’s food in grocery stores. Oh, but he did. I don’t care why. You approach things backwards.
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  2192. @Santo Parfano Riiiight. Cause the cops just suddenly listened to her after 7yrs; it’s not like they acquired her ACTUAL medical records or anything; Naw, it can’t be Barnutts who’s lying.
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  2193. Andy T I don’t know why. I just know he did it. Similarly, I know the Barnetts did it. The cops know they did it. The evidence amassed over the course of their 5 yr investigation proves it.
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  2194. Why did Dahmer eat people when there are grocery stores full of food?
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  2195. Her type of dwarfism does not cause her to lose baby teeth on a different timeline that those without dwarfism. She lost her 1st tooth as she 6, as expected. But the Barnetts claimed she had her adult teeth. Funny, their pics show that was a lie. Even if you know nothing about dwarfism, you can see that they lied.
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  2196.  @ChrisAnderson1986  Celebrities get away with a lot. Did you know the adoptive parents, Barnetts, were local celebrities in their area of IN?
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  2197.  @ChrisAnderson1986  Smooth Criminal?
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  2198. Personally, I find it hard to trust a criminal defendant. A person facing time will say anything.
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  2199. Bianca Bloom Hello Barnetts!!
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  2200. Don’t be absurd. Cops investigated for over 5 years. The only ones arrested are the Barnetts. SHE is not at risk of jail, they are
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  2201. Ashton, if you were scammed by an agency, got arrested, then went on a publicly tour, wouldn’t you use your notoriety, your platform, to say the name of the agency & ask for other people who were also scammed to come forward and contact your attorney?? Find other victims, right? Of Course that’s what a REAL victim would do. So? Did they? Did they EVEN SAY THE NAME of the agency?? Nope. Not a peep. It’s bullsht. Every far fetched accusation. Pure bullsht. She was a child and they abandoned her. Heck, even her birth mother been tracked down. They did exactly what they’re accused of
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  2202. That’s called honesty. Because the bones density test in 2010 said she was approx 8, & the full skeletal x rays in 2012 said approx 11. She gained nothing by not remembering the tests that proved she was a child. She also said she didn’t have a cycle, but remembers what the mom made her do, which is sickening
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  2203. Nope, but they sure belong there. They defrauded the court in 2012 to get her age changed so they could shed their parental responsibility
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  2204. @camiosis Thankful you were denied adopting! You have no business near children.
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  2205. @KiKi I doubt the prosecution would risk doing the DNA test if they weren’t certain she was the bioM. Notice the defense wasn’t clamoring for a DNA test!
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  2206.  @camiosis9024  Loved how Mother Superior Kristine (actually she’s Mother Inferior, but anyway...) pretended she was helping, talking about “I’ll do one more year of financial assistance” when the only one she was helping was herself. She went on to say “Just like I’m doing for all my children” when all 3 boys were still living at home!! She simply cannot speak without lying.
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  2207.  @camiosis9024  They better have paid her bills. Her dad michael was the representative payee for her SSI. Since he got her SSI checks, of course he’d pay bills, but he wasn’t paying w/his own $$
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  2208. @Camiosis Hahaha #ALL those people are on the #Prosecution Witness List !!!!!! So is her #BIRTHMOTHER https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  2209. Imagine a 5+ years investigation that uncovers solid proof the child was truly a child? Now they’re peddling a far fetched story and people believe them?
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  2210. Ozzy 'LFO' AirMax YOU must be the most gullible, believing the ripped-from-a-movie-script defense of Barnetts. Discarding the dad’s confession. Believing adults can pass for 4 yr olds.
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  2211. @Mr. Green jeans In the medical records from 2008 when she was with the 1st family, before Barnetts, doctors notated they had to get a translator to talk with her.
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  2212. The Barnetts went to court over this blog. They’re big mad https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  2213. Shania Wilkinson The prosecution has subpoenaed Kristine’s book’s ghost writer. Apparently her book IS a source.
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  2214. Shania Wilkinson I’m not sure what 3rd party dental records you are referencing. Source? The dental records I read about were reported by a legitimate news source as being contained in an updated police affidavit and say the prosecution has records from 2011 in which the dentist estimated her age as between 8&9. The second record is from 2012 and that dentist estimated her age as between 6&9. Contrast this with Barnett interviews as saying she had all her adult teeth. Add to that the DePauls photographs (and Mans photographs) proving that to be incorrect. So that’s an instance of the Barnetts words being proven false without waiting for trial. Another thing reported upon were medical records referenced in the updated police affidavit as showing that doctors in 2008 noted that they needed to call in a translator. Contrast this with Michael Barnett saying that she spoke perfect English when they adopted her in 2010 and , more importantly, that they no longer believed she was from Ukraine. Kinda laughable considering that their own legal document from 2012 asserted the fact that she was from Ukraine. She never lived in their home again after they changed her age so where would this epiphany come from. Kristine’s book certainly does reveal a great deal. She claims she loved and still loves Natalia yet does not mention her in the book once. Fascinating. The 1st police affidavit references 2 medical records that the officer viewed. One from 2010 that estimated her age at about 8. And another from June 2012 that estimated her age at about 11. This was a sworn document, unlike all of the Barnetts claims that were not made under oath. Legally she is still 30, but the Tippecanoe County Court considers her a minor and would not allow her to sign for the DNA testing. They said Barnetts needed to sign and since they are under indictment the prosecution instead usurped their authority and got a court order for DNA instead.
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  2215. Shania Wilkinson I have seen the copy of Barnetts age change motion. It listed her Ukrainian birth certificate and birthdate on it (Sept 4, 2003). The motion said a copy of the BC was attached (the news did not show the attachments). The motion listed the first adopters names and when they adopted her (July 9 2008) and attached a copy of the Ciccone’s adoption decree. From the DePauls going public I was able to see a 2008 medical evaluation as well as a school evaluation to see if she should be promoted to first grade, as well as a document from her IEP and physical therapy notes. Plus their photographs. Because the Barnetts gave so many interviews, you can easily compare their stories as well as note any differences between early and later interviews. Then there are public social media postings as well as public court dockets/cases. You also can read Kristine’s book as well as explore now defunct websites through Internet archives and Wayback Machine. Does this all sound like mere They said/She said?
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  2216. Shania Wilkinson Have you seen any evidence of this test they claim? Did they mention this test when they filed the motion with the court in 2012 to change her age? No they did not (the motion was made public when Kristine gave a copy to WISH 8 news, normally that record would be held confidentially). Was this test mentioned in the letter from doctor Andrew McLaren? (The letter Kristine made public that accuses Natalia) No, Dr McLaren does not mention this test. So, you don’t owe me an answer, but ask yourself Why you believe this is true. This is coming from people with great incentive to lie and as far as I can tell have no evidence to support this claim.
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  2217. Shania Wilkinson Bullsht. Her age wasn’t ruled “correct”. No one re-evaluated. When they couldn’t prevail due to legal hurdles, they withdrew it. But obviously NEVER stopped trying to get justice for Natalia, as demonstrated by the fact the Barnetts are charged with felonies. You don’t seem to appreciate the extraordinary amount of evidence it took to charge Barnetts.
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  2218. Actually her age was calculated (at least 5 times). She was definitely a child
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  2219. They made no allegations of fraud UNTIL they were charged with crimes. THEY were charged, not her. After a FIVE YR investigation. The mental gymnastics is takes to blame this kid is stunning
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  2220. @Cryptidian Don’t believe it. Here’s legitimate reporting that reveals in 2011 a dentist estimated her age btwn 8-9. In 2012 a dentist said btwn 6-9. The Barnetts are lying. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  2221. No, no actual bone testing or any other scientific test said she was 22. That is the criminal defendants claims and it’s a LIE
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  2222. Their story makes no sense whatsoever. They said they visited her often after they put her in an apartment. There’s no way someone would willingly visit an attempted murderer.
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  2223. Tracy Puydak What did you think of Michael Barnetts body language? A lot of people noted strangeness there. Especially the weird things he did with his eyes
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  2224.  @camiosis9024  You’re loco. They didn’t pay 9 months in advance. Proven. She didn’t have a court appointed ad Litem guardian. Proven. FYI Thats known as a GAL. Checking up on her?? Lol that’s not even what a GAL does. She didn’t have a no contact order. Proven. She didn’t have SSI to spend because Michael was getting her checks. Kristine admitted that. Groceries? Nope not in LaFayette. Moved in with Mans before Barnetts fled to Canada? Nope. Proven. Kristine left by July 15, Mike on Aug 2. You can thank Mike for that info. I read it on his Facebook lol. Good grief, you sure didn’t get much correct. As usual. You left out the most important part—she was actually a 9 year old little girl when they left. Proven. Maybe you’ve been woke too long? Get some sleep honey. You need it.
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  2225. The police investigation spanned over FIVE years. Every one and every avenue was gone over with a fine tooth comb. ALL the actual evidence said she was a child and Barnetts are child abusers
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  2226. At 16 here, she’s a teen. She’s 17 now. Still waiting for justice
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  2227. 🎄Merry Christmas Natalia🎄
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  2228. Riiiiight. Not the people charged with 6 felonies. Oh no. The kid who’s been with a loving family for over 6 yrs with no problems. Sure.
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  2229. There is NO “30 families”.
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  2230. She was adopted at age 6, not abandoned at 6. She was 1 month shy of 9yrs old when they put her in 1st apt & she had assistance. After a yr they moved her, no assistance & left the country
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  2231. And she’s been with them for over 7 years now. 7 YEARS with no issues. But you believe the criminal defendants wild accusations?
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  2232.  @CeeBarrio1  Yes, she’s 16 on the show. Gary and Dyan Ciccone adopted her in Ukraine and brought her here July 2008. Her birth certificate said born Sept 2003. In May 2010 the Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones. Barnetts finalized the adoption Nov 2010. In June 2012 Barnetts get her age changed from birth year 2003 to 1989. They moved her into an apt, then changed apartments, finally they left for Canada July 2013. Natalia was taken in by the Mans in Aug 2013. The Barnetts are filthy liars. I don’t get why you’re just taking their word as gospel. What I just recounted to you is in the court documents (available online)
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  2233.  @CeeBarrio1  Apparently you’ve already been fooled. You just don’t know it 😁😆🤣
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  2234.  @CeeBarrio1  There’s pics of her from Fall 2009 where she just lost her 1st baby tooth. If your “late 20’s” estimate was accurate she’d be late teen’s in 2009 photo. But she’s clearly a little kid
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  2235.  @CeeBarrio1  The real question is why you wanna buy a story that the Barnetts clearly ripped from a Hollywood movie. It’s so outlandish on its face
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  2236. You’re about 10 yrs off with your guess. She’s 16 in that video
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  2237. @Emme What are you talking about saying “nothing more has come” from the bio mom? They conducted DNA testing. As for the contempt accusation, they were exonerated
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  2238. You know her bio mom has been located? The bio mom is only 40 and Natalia was her second child. The older sibling is 20 now.
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  2239.  @undergxd  I do not share your interpretation. It’s interesting that you think the husband was the one present for these “incidents”. I’ve watched all the interviews and actually he said he was at work when the so-called poisoning attempt occurred. So this was all relayed to him by his wife. Yet he actually did a hand gesture of opening a bottle of Pine Sol and pouring it in. Think about the craftiness of that. Demonstrating with his hands an event that he absolutely did not witness. That’s called overselling. Then the “fence” incident. According to the girl Kristine had sent the others up ahead before going over to her and telling her to get up. So, he likely did not witness that either. And , really, how could they even call that a murder attempt? A farmers fence. Aren’t you aware of the purpose of a livestock fence? It sure ain’t to kill the sheep or cows if they try to escape. Lol. I’ve been zapped by these fences before. It didn’t hardly hurt. It could Never kill you. Their entire story falls apart upon examination. But I’ve been really into this story and have done other research on it. There’s a ton of actual documents online, as well looking into their other claims and comparing against the court records. They are lying about her age. And people who’d lie about that are probably lying about the behavior stuff too
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  2240. @Clinto Taveras Joe musta been too busy to read the police affidavit which details the dad’s confession and recounts actual medical findings. Check it out https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2241.  @LuLu-cf9uh  If that’s what diggy meant then that’s what he should have said. Instead he was trying to sound cute but got schooled instead.
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  2242.  @kooolllkatscat7830  There are proper channels for an adult to take to correct an error. But it this case it was not changed because of an error. It was changed based on the lies of the Barnetts.
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  2243. So they don’t look like pieces of sht getting rid of a disabled child. Like the Stauffers just did.
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  2244.  @jashley777  There are unanswered questions. But her age isn’t one of them. Will they get away with it due to the statute of limitations and res Judicata? We’ll know soon as COA answers
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  2245.  @jashley777  The court didn’t TELL THEM she was an adult. They lied and TOLD THE COURT she was an adult. Got a fraudulent court order too. You feel sorry for lying child abusers? Ok!
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  2246. The other family IS in a lot of trouble. They are charged with 8 felony counts. The prosecution could not do that without very strong evidence. According to her original birth certificate she’s 16
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  2247. Roberta, they are lying. The Barnetts are lying. All the records they concealed for so long are out. She really was a child. You sound very empathetic, but you’re feeling empathy for the perpetrators. What they did to Natalia is horrific. She didn’t do anything to deserve that. They nearly destroyed her. Go look at the Justice For Natalia Grace blog. You’ll see the photographs and documents that prove it.
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  2248.  @Xforeverlove21  They falsely accuse their victim. Typical behavior of sociopathic abusers.
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  2249.  @phuckyoutube5927  You must be a real moron
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  2250.  James Omar  She sure minimized and omitted some of the Barnetts accusations, didn’t she? Just to oppose what you said. Funny, she’s Usually Exaggerating their accusations or outright creating accusations of her own, to try to condemn the victim. Barnetts certainly described N as a foaming-at-the-mouth psychopath.
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  2251. BFLOJoker74HaHa No, that’s not true. That may be what Barnetts claim, but there was NEVER a medical test that estimated her age more than 1-3 yrs older than her 2003 birth certificate
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  2252. Mr Gunslinger Actually she was 6, back in May 2010 when she joined their family. Her birthday’s in Sept. She was born in 2003. Photos show a child aging to teen. Adult wouldn’t chng like that
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  2253. Wow. You really don’t know anything about this case, do you? Yes she had a birth certificate. Yes she had a passport. Yes They even had the Ciccones adoption decree.
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  2254. No she’s not lying. Her 40yr old BioMom was confirmed by DNA. Has her original records. She’s 17 now. Those degenerate Barnetts left an innocent child to fend for herself
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  2255. Give it up. In addition to the Drs & dentists who said she was a child, even her birth mother was located. She was a child. She was born 2003. And you are disparaging a (now) teenager
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  2256. InterviewS?? That’s plural. She’s done ONE interview, on Dr Phil and he says he doesn’t pay guests. It’s Barnetts who’ve been on a world wide defamation tour.
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  2257. Welcome to the world of narcissism. That’s how narcissists act. They usually create their own problems.
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  2258. Only on paper. In real life she was born Sept 2003. Confirmed by her doctors, dentists, and now biological mother, who BTW is only 41 & Natalia was her 2nd child
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  2259.  @arttime_1587  Yes they should.
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  2260. Why are you so willing to believe such a fantastical story from these “parents”?
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  2261. NONSENSE. WTF is wrong with you, that you’d make up lies about this kid? You need your head examined. Any one can see on their social media they are still a happy family, over 8yrs together now
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  2262. I saw Frosty the Snowman once. It’s not going to cause me to believe my neighbors if they tell me their snowman came to life
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  2263. But yes most are just sensationalizing this abuse case for the views. Repulsive
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  2264. No, she’s telling the truth. It’s the adoptive parents who lied so they could abandon their parental responsibilities to her.
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  2265. They are NOT a loving couple. Lock the abusers up.
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  2266. Crafty and amoral people, who cooked up a novel scheme to dump the adopted kid they didn’t want any more.
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  2267.  @jaxxoceans3866  The Drs said 8 in 2010 and 11 in 2012, isn’t that so far below 18 (adult) that it proves she had to have been a minor when they put her into the 1st apartment in 2012?
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  2268. Here, read about 2 results for yourself https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2269. Yes medical tests were done and proved she was a child. Barnetts did not present those results to the judge when they got her age changed. This is one big Barnett scam.
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  2270. Yup. That’s their alibi. Lol. A movie. lol
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  2271. Marion County, Remember Sylvia Likens- Immortalized in “An American Crime”& “The Girl Next Door”. How about the 2 Delphi girls on the Monon High Bridge, 17 min from where they left Natalia
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  2272.  @brooklyn2812  I see that you believe their version of events. But they’re lying. Look at the photos the DePauls shared. This was only 6mos before the Barnetts got her. They claim she had adult teeth—but you’ll see all baby teeth with the 2 front missing and adult ones growing in, like most 6 yr olds, NOT 20yr old like Barnetts claim. Then look at her lil undeveloped baby chest. That’s NOT the chest of a girl past puberty. They successfully had her age changed by withholding her dental & medical records from the judge. He changed her age without holding a hearing or taking testimony or even seeing her. The Barnetts are frauds. Her birth mother was confirmed by DNA. The gig is up.
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  2273. The problem with your questions is that your foundation is wrong. She WAS 6 when they adopted her. She WASvx born 2003. The Barnetts cooked up a pretty good scheme to shed their significant parental responsibilities, without publicity, without going to court and facing the adoption agency/original adoptive family Attorneys, without looking like the bad guys (that they absolutely are). This girl, 17 now, had her childhood stolen, her future foreclosed, her education denied, her surgeries withheld, her authentic birth year changed to 1989. It’s beyond disgusting.
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  2274. @James Omar Lol That’s what I’ve been saying!! A nut job with an angry, mean and downright evil streak. I’d bet money whatever family she has cut her off a long time ago.
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  2275. @James Omar The adoption industry is rift with ethical issues, no doubt. The lack of oversight, the confidential processes, woe be unto any child who is unfortunate enough to land in their hands
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  2276. @James Omar There is definitely something wrong with the system. But Natalia wasn’t in the system. In one of Michael’s interviews he actually used the fact that she wasn’t in foster care BUT would GO INTO foster care if they didn’t agree to adopt her. He told it to make them seem like good people, like they were saving her from foster care; also to explain why the process was so rushed, he acted like it was a sales pitch (get her now before the opportunity is gone). This is just another example of Barnetts talking out both sides of their mouths. On the one hand they saved her from foster care, on the other she was the problem who was getting sent back by numerous families. Again, like you’ve said, from their own words you can tell they are lying.
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  2277.  @jaxxoceans3866  It’s known because Kristine leaked the document. Barnetts filed the ex parte motion that asked the judge to amend the birth year on her birth certificate from 2003 to 1989
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  2278. They did have a Ukrainian birth certificate. But the Barnetts convinced an Indiana judge to amend her birth certificate from born in 2003 to born in 1989 in a secret hearing the girl wasn’t at
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  2279. Yes. Kristine Barnett took her for 2 dental evals. In 2011 dentist est she was 8-9, In 2012 est she was 6-9. So they definitely knew she was a child. They made up the adult sht so they could leave her
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  2280.  @JH-fs1gb  You don’t believe she’s from Ukraine? So you think an American con artist went to Ukraine & infiltrated an orphanage in the hopes of being adopted as a child by some future US family?
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  2281. @James Omar I cannot believe how much mileage Barnetts got with this No Accent red herring. So dumb, people are. The No Accent is proof on her side, that she really was a young child. If she STILL had an accent it would suggest that maybe she wasn’t really a young child coming here. But all because Barnetts made a deal out of nothing, dummies are latching onto it without one iota of critical thinking.
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  2282.  @marksteeves4679  There’s like 40 some units in that complex, and only 2 hysterical old biddies flapping their gums. No, that’s not “ALL of the tenants”. Notice Mr Rice, the grandpa, didn’t say anything bad, and let her play w his grandson whenever they could. He didn’t get pulled into the hysteria. Melanie also showed a great deal of compassion towards Natalia. A hungry lonely child who had no business being left alone in an apartment
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  2283. Cause they aren’t telling the truth. She was a child and they knew it. All the doctors told them. They’re the con artists
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  2284. Except he didn’t say birthdays aren’t celebrated in Ukraine. He said they aren’t celebrated in orphanages
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  2285.  @jaxxoceans3866  Actually there are. Of course it’s an approximation within a range. And all the experts pegged her At or within 3 yrs of her original birth certificate. Well below the age of 18
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  2286. No need for soft-science when there is serious science, actual medical & dental, that proves she was a minor, AND the dad confessed
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  2287.  @Thisistheday3  Hilarious reaction. You ought to tighten up. Sheesh, you wouldn’t last a day in Natalia’s shoes. She had the misfortune of being adopted by 2 of the biggest lowlifes and now she has folks like you adding insult to injury with the temerity to play the victim when someone questions your comment bashing her. The irony.
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  2288.  @Thisistheday3  Yup, it wasn’t a term of endearment, but it was a metaphor and it wasn’t name calling. My second comment was not to you, it was to a different commenter, camosis, who said something stupid and deleted it out of embarrassment after I explained why what she said made no sense. You keep trying to assume the moral high ground, though you cannot because you are the one bashing Natalia- an innocent victim. You’re just a bully.
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  2289.  @Thisistheday3  “Easy there, tiger” was a metaphor, not name calling. You’re awfully thin skinned for someone bashing an innocent victim (ie Natalia)
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  2290.  @Thisistheday3  Easy there, tiger. You expressed your opinion in a public forum which in and of itself invites interaction from others. If you’re not up for a discussion, maybe don’t post.
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  2291.  @Thisistheday3  And you said they wouldn’t have done this to an 8 yr old. Based on what? These parents are special or something??
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  2292. The Indiana Supreme Court declined to hear the case, Camo. So it goes without saying that they didn’t DO anything. 😂That’s what declining to hear a case means. Yo Barnett peeps ain’t too bright
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  2293. She was evaluated by a dentist Back Then. Back in 2011. He took x rays and said she was btwn 8 & 9; her age was 8, till Barnetts changed it
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  2294. You don’t need to be a doctor to be able to differentiate a child from an adult. It’s obvious she isn’t a adult here on Phil.
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  2295. No, that’s just the story the a8usive adoptive parents are trying to sell, to excuse their crimes against her
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  2296.  @Ftmyersbeachlizard  She had a skeletal survey in 2012. Her growth plates, which she still had, were analyzed and from this her age was estimated at around 11. She definitely was a child
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  2297. WTF? You said “Her body is stunted, one must consider that so is her mind”. That’s some disgusting ableist rhetoric. By the way, you’re wrong about her motives as well. She was a 4 yr old child when that 1st American couple flew to Ukraine and took her from the orphanage. She had no motives. This was all done TO her.
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  2298.  @lol-ke1jg  She is exactly the age her birth certificate indicated before Barnetts changed it. Confirmed via x ray, birthmom, orig records, born Sept 2003, she was 16 on Phil, she’s 18 now
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  2299. If that was true they’d have sued 8 Years ago. They took her in back in August 2013
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  2300.  @juliefisk8066  You can have your own opinion, but you can’t have your own facts
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  2301. You don’t know what the F you’re talking about. Here you are, late to the story, and you still get it wrong.
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  2302. At some point in 2010 she WAS at the dr. And he told them she was about 8. Then dentists & more doctors, ALL saying she was a young child. They actually knew she was a child. They’re just bad people
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  2303. They ditched her because their precious biological son wanted to go to a fancy school in Canada. They couldn’t take her cause CA wasn’t admitting disabled needing surgery back then
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  2304. It’s all over. Ukrainian BioMom DNA confirmed. Just a matter of time now. Barnetts did exactly what they’re accused of. The “facts” you speak of were nothing more than Barnetts lies
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  2305. “Have to jump through hoops to adopt”- What are you implying? That adoptive parents can’t be child abusers? Tell that to adoptee Devonte Hart and his 5 [adopted] siblings. Oh, never mind, you can’t tell him, cause his mom purposely drove off a cliff and murdered them all. You might even remember Devonte. He was the little boy in the viral photo hugging the cop with tears streaming down his face. Murdered by his adoptive mom who jumped through hoops to adopt him.
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  2306. T.k Goals The family with dwarfism, DePauls, were trying to adopt her from the 1st family Ciccones. Ciccone’s chose Barnetts.
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  2307. Mr Barnett is such a good guy, such a good dad that his own 3 sons don’t speak to him. He works in the scummy payday loans industry cause liars excel there. He deserves jail time.
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  2308.  @chrisbauman2562  You must not have watched all Mike’s interviews. He said she was “clearly past puberty”. That was night 1. But they didn’t say sht to anyone. That’s just not believable
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  2309. Now that Natalia’s age is solved conclusively, I think it’s time for answers about Kristine’s “charity” My Jacobs Place. She took in almost TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS in 3 years. WHERE did all that money go?? WHERE did all the ASSETS of the charity go when she disbanded it and moved out of the country??
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  2310. If Michael or Kristine Barnett had a Ukrainian birth certificate that said she was born in 1989 they’d have shown it on their character assassination tour. Get real.
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  2311. That’s a lie Cami.
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  2312.  @melissinha73  Yes her age was revealed. She was born in 2003, exactly as they were told and as her birth certificate said
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  2313. @Camiosis Lie all you want Pinocchiosis 🤥 You and Kristine and all the others in the little faceB group deserve each other. All these months you pretended you didn’t know her. Liar Liar
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  2314. @Camiosis I don’t care what you say you have or don’t have. It is a fact that you told a commenter @Jenny Lee To stay positive and not post links with inaccuracies and said “Here is a positive link” and you posted one of Kristine Barnett’s faceB groups “Learning The Spark”.
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  2315. @Camiosis You know exactly what I’m talking about. You recommended a faceB group to people. It was “Learning the Spark” and Kristine is the admin for the group.
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  2316. @Camiosis Hey Bae, I really enjoy living rent free in your head. Lol Looking forward to more nonsense, Pinocchiosis. Say Hi to your Spark Families for me
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  2317. @Camiosis Any torment Barnutts are feeling is of their own making. Kristine has THREE lawyers now. Her own dream team. Kinda like OJ. Lol. He’s innocent, too, don’t cha know.
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  2318. @James Omar Ask her why she makes things up about Natalia. Literally one lie after another. I see she’s now claiming N has hypopituitarism. What a farce.
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  2319. She wasn’t with 30 different families. So, yeah, Dr Phil is stupid, but stupid for saying something that is proven false. It is an absolute fact the Barnetts adopted her from 1st family the Ciccones
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  2320. No the sons are not adopted. Currently 2 are adults, 1 is same age as Natalia. No public statements from sons
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  2321. This wasn’t an underground adoption. The first adoptive mom was a Harvard graduate. I doubt First mom created a fake birth certificate. Barnetts adoption was finalized 6 mos later in Indiana court
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  2322. She was 6 in May of 2010 when she joined their family. It’s been 10yrs now, right? That’s why she’s 16 now.
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  2323. You mean all that effort, the forged documents, the constant pretending, just to get a family...so she could off them? Lol. That’s just not believable
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  2324. Cynthia Morey How old do you think she looked in 2009? The photos are all here https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  2325.  @jaxxoceans3866 Yes her SSI would have covered the costs. She gets around $730/month. Rent at LaFayette apt was advertised at $450 in 2018. Barnetts said she got “food stamps” too
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  2326. @Vincent Ramponi In addition to lying, they concealed the actual physical findings of 2 doctors from a respected children’s hospital. Read for yourself https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2327. @Vincent Ramponi What if I proved to you that they were not really paying for her apartment? Would that change your opinion? Or give you pause? Because they weren’t paying. Not with their own money. They were paying with HER SSI. Her money from social security because of her disability. They were required by law to spend the money on her, for her benefit. They weren’t paying with their own money because they were benevolent. And it just shows you what kind of liars THEY are. To pretend they were paying just because they wrote the checks, when the funds were HER funds.
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  2328. @Vincent Ramponi When your defense mirrors a movie script, when the two co-defendants contradict each other, when your story is objectively highly implausible, you’re probably lying
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  2329. She has Progressive disabling conditions: Severe scoliosis & joint issues at every level. She’s in pain every day & it’s getting worse. You should be criticizing the perpetrators, not the victim
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  2330.  @positronicreflex.  Personally I consider the source. They have strong motive to lie.
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  2331. You don’t have to. Believe the Drs who examined her. Geneticist, multiple orthopedic surgeons, pediatrician, endocrinologist, dentists, 2 of the docs are full professors at Harvard Medical School
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  2332. All your talk of sociopaths, yet you’ve failed to figure out that it’s the Barnetts who are sociopathic. That’s your own shortcoming
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  2333. No, she isn’t. In addition to her actual dental/med records which showed she was a child as claimed, her birth mom has been located & has the records which prove she was born 2003
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  2334. @LionsGaze 30 families? Really? Where are they? When did they give an interview? Please, name ONE family (besides Barnetts) who made ANY negative claims. Name ONE. I’ll wait.
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  2335. @Chelsey Leigh Kristine leaked the motion she filed with the court to change Natalia’s age. It lists the date the 1st family the Ciccones adopted Natalia in Ukraine (July 9, 2008). The Barnetts actually had a copy of the Ciccone’s adoption decree and attached it to their motion. Along with her original birth certificate.
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  2336. @Chelsey Leigh YOU have the timeline Wrong. Barnetts got her May 2010, age 6. Re-aged her June 2012, from 8 to 22. Put her in supervised apt. Moved her July 2013 & left Country, age 9
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  2337. I can’t even imagine. This kid was turned into an adult without a trial or even a court hearing on the matter, then “legally” dumped. It’s disgraceful. The opposite of what it means to be an American
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  2338. EXACTLY! If she was an adult like the Barnetts claim, she’d have an accent. Only little kids lose their accent. Barnetts are so dumb. This is evidence against them.
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  2339. Does he still think Ukraine is part of Russia?
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  2340. Actually CPS was investigating THEM. The age change was contrived to deprive CPS of jurisdiction, making her an adult made CPS go away. Those scum
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  2341. What “condition” does your sister have?
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  2342. She was 6 when they got her. 4 months shy of turning 7. So, it’s inaccurate to say these things all happened when she was 6. She would have been 7 or 8. A child would remember being falsely accused. I can remember back before I started kindergarten and I started K at age 4.
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  2343. No, they’d have had to find her a new family. But then people would have known. Hard to sell “I’m An Amazing Mother” books when people know that.
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  2344. Why would they set her up? Because they were abusers and were preemptively trying to discredit her. These are some crafty criminals
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  2345. Except she wasn’t an adult. Her medical records & dental records prove it. Even her birth mom was located. Barnetts are simply scum
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  2346. And this is why men get arrested for underage girlfriends. They are terrible at guessing a girls age.
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  2347. They defrauded the court. They concealed her actual medical and dental records, in which ALL the doctors said she was a child. Also, Now her birthMom has confirmed she was a teenager
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  2348. Sure she’s older than her bio mom. Lol
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  2349. She’s not lying. Barnetts are lying. That’s why THEY are charged with felonies
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  2350. Teens can’t be composed?? Just because you weren’t at that age??
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  2351. Because there is no need. Michael Barnett, after a 5 yr investigation, admitted that she was a child, that they knew it, & said Kristine coached her to say she was older. X rays back that up too
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  2352. Interesting perspective considering it’s the parents who are fabricating and mistreated this child (a genuine child)
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  2353. HUGE updates. See here. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/09/04/michael-and-kristine-barnett-still-face-neglect-charges-during-appeal/5715151002/
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  2354. All the doctors and dentists agreed she was a kid when they dumped her. That’s why the Barnuts are charged with felonies
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  2355. You’re real gullible to believe an 18 year old sauntered past US Immigration with a passport and visa saying she was 4yrs old. No way, no how. She really was 4 in 2008 when she came here
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  2356.  @joseortega-us6rn  I know! The Barnetts are really bad people. If you look in the comments of that video and others you will find Vincent & Nicole standing up for Natalia, armed with the truth
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  2357.  @camiosis9024  You absolutely ARE making that up. Judge Meyer DID NOT say that. Ukrainian birth records and birth mother show she was born 2003
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  2358. IN Supreme Court declined to hear the case. The dismissal on Statute of Limitations grounds of 3 counts of Neglect of a Dependent stands. Remaining 5 counts go forward based on disability .
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  2359. A court gave the Barnetts what THEY asked for. To change her birth year from 2003 to 1989. Without even holding a hearing. Let’s not pretend the court came to them and informed them of her age. They got what they asked for. They did it so they could abandon her “legally”. They are bad people. She was really 6 when they adopted her in 2010.
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  2360. The Barnett Dad gave multiple interviews. Why didn’t he put them on blast? After all, he claims they gave him a 20yr old instead of a 6yr old. And he never sued. Hmmm
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  2361. It’s so obvious that the Barnetts are the perpetrators here. Definitely can see her aging from a child to a teen in the photos
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  2362. FACT Her earliest medical records show the doctors had to use a translator. Medical records the Barnetts had in their possession. What does that tell you??
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  2363. The Barnetts told lies. And look, YOU just believe them. Lol
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  2364. Not always. Was there a third side in the Jerry Sandusky case? How about the Dr Larry Nassar case? How about the Holocaust, is there a third side there as well?
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  2365.  @orangefacedbuddah1776  If you want to see a liar, you need to go watch Michael Barnett or Kristine Barnett’s interviewed. Pure rubbish.
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  2366.  Mohammed Aadesh Dipatuan  💛Love your commentary
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  2367. X rays don’t lie. Skeletal & Dental proves she was a child. Go back to school
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  2368. Growth plates don’t lie. Natalia x rays proved she still had growth plates. Adults do not have growth plates. This is irrefutable proof Natalia was a child, not an adult. Growth plates don’t lie
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  2369.  James Omar  😂🤣😂
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  2370.  @camiosis9024  You’re always grasping at straws
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  2371.  @camiosis9024  The ONLY medical records she showed were from Boston Children’s Hospital in 2008. Try again
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  2372.  @gotlynda2013  Awe, the faux patronizing stance, how very predictable. It’s not my fault you cannot understand the objective medical & dental evidence and think there’s anything left to “debate” a year & 1/2 later. All your doing is victim blaming, which reveals quite a bit about you as a person.
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  2373.  @camiosis9024  Mackenzie video is still up and she doesn’t show any 2006 New Jersey records. Try again
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  2374.  @gotlynda2013  You don’t like being judged? But feel entitled to judge Natalia? Oh, I see, you’re a hypocrite, too
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  2375. @Miss Caddy You’re not on the moral high ground bashing a child victim but taking issue with me saying Barnett supporters aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed. If the dull tool fits...
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  2376. wantafanta01 Nonsense. You can’t leave a 9 yr old home alone for a weekend without being arrested. And that apartment? They paid for it with HER MONEY. That’s right, dad-ah-roo was getting her SSI checks. He’s required by law to spend it on her. It wasn’t out of the goodness of their hearts. They left for CA to flee from their crime. Ostensibly for Jacob to go to college, but he could have went anywhere. Very convenient to go to school in Canada and outside the jurisdiction on the US
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  2377. Symbiotic Flux I’m not knocking him. Just expected more from someone w/an IQ SUPPOSEDLY “higher than Einstein’s”. But, hey, with those 2 turds as parents, it’s an accomplishment to not be on heroin
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  2378. He’s 21 now with only 2 published papers. Does Not have a PhD yet. Not exactly earth shattering
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  2379. Nope. They’re still facing charges. Charges because she was a child
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  2380.  @praxym9293  She looks like a teen to me. She also came across as honest. Unlike Michael Barnett whose eyes were freaky wide open and Kristine who seemed cold and calculating
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  2381.  @chrisfranchi8400  Which 2 very different results are you referring to?
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  2382.  @chrisfranchi8400  How old do you think Natalia is?
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  2383. Here’s the video with photos of her at the orphanage and proves she was a very young child. At 3:10 https://youtu.be/3Z5Eu-fZdKw
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  2384. @James Omar The Statutes of Limitation can definitely use a major overhaul. Is some areas, like sx crimes, there’s been a lot of progress. But child abuse in general is still behind the times. It’s crazy to me how crimes against children are adjudicated in this country. I read a case in GA where a girl secretly tape recorded her father confessing to crimes against her and his conviction was overturned on Appeal because secret taping was against the law. The laws are designed to protect the rights of criminals, not victims.
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  2385. @James Omar It’s more The State that is being bound by the Statute of Limitations. Legislators (of all states) have decided that a crime must be prosecuted within so many years of the crime occurring. It’s framed as a protection of the individual from having to defend themselves from a crime so remote in time that they cannot fairly defend themselves. Such as in cases where witnesses memory fades or the witness is no longer able to be located or had died, or maybe records proving you didn’t do the crime (for example employment time cards etc) are no longer available. But then there’s cases such as this one, where the passage of time has made their guilt MORE apparent and the Statute of Limitations is imposing an unjust outcome. I think the statute ought to be greatly lengthened when it comes to crimes against children specifically, and other crimes generally. Remember, the State is not representing Natalia. The state is representing The State. Natalia needs her own attorney, something she has never had.
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  2386. @James Omar Omg. Where has that video been hiding?! What a find!! Yea, this is the little girl who “conned” the Barnetts? Wtf. One of the pics said 2007, so 3 if taken before Sept, 4 if taken after. I swear, you could show those child abuse supporters a picture of her with umbilical cord still attached and they’d still say she was an adult. Barnetts ought to be in prison.
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  2387. @James Omar This sht is IMO a Barnett twist of the records they received from discovery. If there was a fire that’ll be evidence of why you don’t leave a child in an apartment. As for the so-called propositioning there no way the hospital said that. None at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if some adult at the facility tried to take advantage of Natalia. Assault at a facility is not unheard of, and I hope nothing bad happened to her there. Beyond Barnetts self serving interpretations of the records, Cam adds her own fantasies too as per her usual. Disgusting, the whole lot of them.
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  2388. @James Omar You got her number, as do I. Remember when she was promoting one of Kristine’s groups called Learning The Spark? Lol. Yeah they’re sparking something, that’s for sure
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  2389.  James Omar  You got that right! On its face their claims are preposterous and their statements make no sense.
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  2390.  @portersmith777  The Barnetts claimed that medical testing showed she was older. They are lying. There was never ONE test that showed she was older. Her ACTUAL records show the Barnetts were told time and time again that she was a child. That’s the truth. She was a child and they knew and they got her age changed anyway and they left her to fend for herself. They are cold, callous and calculating people.
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  2391.  @portersmith777  Really? You don’t seem the suggestible type. You know they changed her age by 14 yrs? She came over at 4. It’s sounds plausible, to you, that an adult passed as a kindergartner?
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  2392. That says it all. Ableism on full display
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  2393. Doctors don’t go by length of bones to determine age. They analyze the growth plates which are gone by the time a girl is 16-18. She still had open growth plates. The Barnetts are telling a lot of lies to act like they did nothing wrong, like most criminal defendants do
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  2394.  James Omar  lol
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  2395.  @jasminspepperpot8156  James isn’t a family member. He’s just someone, like me, who cares about human rights, particularly the rights of vulnerable defenseless children.
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  2396.  @PayNoTax-GetNoVote  Wouldn’t that be you, Dave, not Ruby? After all, you’re the one swallowing the criminal defendants preposterous alibi that’s clearly ripped from a Hollywood movie
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  2397. “The Barnetts celebration of their legal victories was short lived”. Bhahahaha. Savage! https://amp.jconline.com/amp/5715151002
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  2398. But that’s what the psycho adoptive mom Kristine did. Kristine also made her repeat things & filmed her fake confessions to pass off as real
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  2399. You’re exactly right. Had she been an adult all along her pictures wouldn’t change that much. https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  2400. Those poor kids. No one looking out for their rights and their best interests. How do they just lose a child? Routers did a huge expose on this very thing. Children treated like unwanted pets.
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  2401. It’s so terrible what’s happened to her. I don’t understand how people can be so blind, so cruel.
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  2402. The Barnetts were charged because all the evidence showed they were liars. You can see from earlier photos she was just a little girl, baby teeth & not in puberty
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  2403. Joe Rogan is full of sht. No one ever reported that. Yes, she is still with the Mans, since 2013. Yes, they tried to obtain legal guardianship in 2016 but lacked sufficient to restore her original age. But, thanks to this extensive 5+ yr police investigation her actual birth date will be able to be restored.
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  2404. Is this a typo? Did you mean to say “believed she WASN’T a child”?
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  2405. Don’t worry, the prosecution is not relying on Dr Phil. There are at least 6 other Medical Drs who examined her and say she was a child; a couple of dentists too
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  2406. That’s not what the dad wrote on Facebook. He said Kristine was “evil” & she “abused” him. He said he was in therapy for 4 years because of her. He didn’t even mention his daughter.
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  2407. Lord Ronaldo Not True
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  2408. That’s what the Barnetts claimed after they were arrested. Too bad for them her birth mother was located and rendered all their “no accent” nonsense irrelevant
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  2409. Once Jacob started getting famous they had no use for her. Kristine especially was traipsing him all over world for interviews & promoting. She wasn’t about to miss out taking care of N.
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  2410. The unconditional love of her parents, the Mans, has helped heal her. She’s telling the truth, why wouldn’t she be confident? She dresses conservatively because her father is a pastor.
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  2411. So do I. But my daughters look older. They’re off at college. The Barnetts and their fraudulent age change have robbed Natalia of that opportunity. Stole her childhood And her future
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  2412. It’s a shame that children are given to people like the Barnetts, who don’t have the capacity to love them. Branding her an adult, when she isn’t. Bet they were shocked when her birth mom was found
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  2413.  @keithvanalstine712  Actually the age change Judge (Zore) DID take their word for it. They filed the age change petition & 11 days later Zore signed. No hearing, no testimony, no records
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  2414. The family procured the age change order. Should they benefit from their deception? She’s been w new family 8 years now, how much longer before you figure out Barnetts lied?
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  2415. Barnetts had reasons. Purely selfish and narcissistic reasons, but reasons nonetheless.
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  2416. I don’t think Kristine Barnett will ever admit to what she did. At least Micheal admitted it, tho he’s still a POS
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  2417.  @vagabond734  People are morons. Everyone knows a kid loses their first tooth at 5/6/7. She was 6. Barnetts claimed she had all her adult teeth, yet their own pics show baby teeth.
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  2418. @Rogue One It’s very strange. Esp because so far the only evidence of that test is the Barnetts claim. The Police affidavit mentions 2 medical doctors Barnetts took her to that said she was a child.
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  2419. Rogue One 2 different dentists did exactly that. They determined she was between 6&9 in 2012. In 2011 est btwn 8&9. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  2420. Who’d buy parenting advice from a failed parent? They didn’t want to look like A-holes and muck up the book deal/movie rights deal. So they found a secret way out with a confidential age change. Of the 8 felony counts, 6 might get dismissed because of the “legal” age change. It’s at the Court of Appeals now. The other 2 counts are related to neglect of disabled dependent of any age.
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  2421.  @robertwadas  We were talking about the 24 hr “deadline” that you said was “illegal”. Now you want to talk home studies? Am I getting this right? Interesting. Have a great day
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  2422.  @robertwadas  I guess you didn’t watch Kristine’s interview either. She said she didn’t ask the first family why they were giving up N, out of respect for what she imagined was a difficult decision. So, both Michael and Kristine said the first family brought her to the agency, and Mike said the agency told him that she would be put directly into foster care if Barnetts declined. These are Videos, so no chance for a misquote. But you know better. Lol. Oh, it get better, you think giving prospective adoptive parents 24 hrs to say yes/no is illegal??? Wait, wait, I bet you don’t realize the Barnetts had her in their home for 6 months before they finalized the adoption. Yea, they picked her up May and finalized in Nov.
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  2423.  @robertwadas  Further, he said the other family was in the next room and had only relinquished her 5 minutes before they (Barnetts) arrived.
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  2424.  @robertwadas  No she wasn’t. When Michael was on Dr Oz he said they were called and given 24hrs to make a decision or else she would go directly into foster care.
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  2425.  @robertwadas  She wasn’t in foster care
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  2426.  @robertwadas  You know they weren’t the ones to adopt her from Ukraine right? They adopted from the original adopters and it was facilitated by a FL agency.
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  2427.  @robertwadas  How do you “know” Small World was used?
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  2428.  @robertwadas  What makes you think Small World is the agency that was used?
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  2429.  @robertwadas  The gag order had been in place for a year. The gag prevents the participants from speaking publicly. But it has nothing to do with the filings, which ARE public. The case itself is not confidential nor under seal (only certain private medical records are). The press is not gagged nor prevented from reporting on the case and what’s happening inside the courtroom. The proceedings are in the courtroom like all other criminal proceedings, not in judges chambers (unless done by zoom due to covid).
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  2430.  @robertwadas  Actually they are still charged with age based neglect and will be until the Court of Appeals makes a decision. The judge stayed his dismissal order when he approved the appeal
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  2431.  @robertwadas  Read what is available, or not. Different filings do talk about the medical evidence. Noticeably, the defense does not mention any medical or dental findings that determined she was an adult.
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  2432. If you want to read some real paperwork in this case, it’s publicly available on the court website. Under Michael P Barnett or Kristine Barnett at mycase.in.gov Prosecution & Defense
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  2433. No she’s not lying. Barnetts are lying. Her birth mother has been confirmed by DNA. Natalia was born in 2003 as they were told all along. Her original birth certificate was correct
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  2434.  @lizzymartins6188  Believing everything you hear, eh? I saw photos of missing baby teeth when she was 6. Did you see photos of this supposed hair? And what’s up with your math? They adopted her when she was 6, so unless time stood still she wasn’t 6 when they dumped her 2 yrs later. Did you know CPS was investigating them? Multiple reports cause the kid wasn’t doing so good all alone. Neighbors pitching in to make sure she didn’t die. Sophisticated grammar? Where’s the video proof of that? Kristine put up tons of videos of the son, so where’s the videos of her? 30 families? Says who? Sure, have an opinion, but base it on facts
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  2435.  @lizzymartins6188  The results of the x rays, the age estimates, are in the probable cause affidavit. It’s published. You ought to read it. You can also see the photos from the people who tried to adopt her before Barnetts. She lost her first baby tooth with them. She was clearly not much older than DePauls biological daughter, who was 4 at the time and also has dwarfism. DePauls also shared some of Natalia’s prior medical records and a school assessment that determined she should be promoted from Kindergarten to First Grade.
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  2436. Because their son got into a prestigious Canadian school & Canadian immigration law at the time prohibited her entry. They wanted to ditch her without looking bad.
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  2437. rigsby2222 Yet they NEVER initiated any court action to prove it and void the adoption. An ex parte hearing to change her age don’t mean nothing when Natalia wasn’t even there.
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  2438. The Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones. A FL adoption agency facilitated it. The Ciccones adopted her from Ukraine. They actually traveled to Ukraine and adopted her there.
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  2439. Fortunately her birth mother was located and confirmed via DNA. Her original hospital records & the relinquishment papers all have the same birthdate for Natalia- 2003. Barnetts lied
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  2440. @Skitdora2010 Adoptive parents CAN sue for fraud. The Barnetts did NOT do that. Why? Cause there wasn’t fraud. They’re liars
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  2441. They didn’t help Natalia. They greatly harmed her. Michael Barnett admitted it. He admitted she was a child when they left her & that Kristine coached her to lie about her age. It’s why they were arrested
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  2442.  @jaxxoceans3866  Holy sht. After looking at your vids, you really are a bonafide conspiracy buff. Lol. I really enjoyed that Richard guy’s vid on your playlist saying Steven Hawking was an imposter 🤣😂 said That the real Hawking died 15-20years ago and was replaced.... 👍🏼😆 Wow.
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  2443.  @jaxxoceans3866  Believe in conspiracy theories all you want. No one denies there is corruption in the adoption industry. But Barnetts are lying and trying to use “corruption” to their advantage. She was a minor child when they skipped town. Learned doctors all agree. Even the 2 dentists Barnetts took her to Agree. The parents before and after Barnetts all agree. The only ones claiming “orphan in real life” are the sketchy Barnetts.
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  2444. @Converted Browns Fan That’s not how the law works. A motion to appeal the 2012 age ruling will have to be filed first. Actually, before that motion could be filed, her attorney will have to ask permission of the court to file a motion since the deadline has long since passed. So she needs legal permission to even Try to overturn it. But I believe that will happen now. One good thing to come out of all this.
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  2445. @Converted Browns Fan Overturning a verdict is very difficult. They didn’t have enough evidence because they didn’t have all the evidence that the police investigation uncovered. The Mans are lovely people, but they are very financially challenged and unsophisticated when it comes to the law. They couldn’t even afford an attorney. They found one who agreed to do the guardianship petition pro-bono. They didn’t even know the Barnetts accurate names when they filed their petition. They didn’t even know that a judge had changed her age legally. They make very little money and opened their home to a child in need. They weren’t prepared for a big court battle from parents who acted as if they could care less. I can understand why their efforts failed. But make no mistake, after all the criminal proceedings end, Natalia will be able to have her accurate age restored. And the Barnetts will be held accountable. If not criminally, then civilly
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  2446. @Converted Browns Fan Watch this video on your phone and you can screen shot the leaked document. It tells the “evidence” they provided and there wasn’t a single medical test offered. Additionally, not only was Natalia NOT present at the hearing, but there was NO opposing side! No one to contradict the Barnetts!!! No attorney for Natalia, no GAL, no CASA. Their evidence was “hair, period, vocabulary”. They concealed the actual medical findings with their family doctors and 1 therapists opinion. That’s it! They acted like this was all to “help” Natalia. They didn’t tell the judge they were ditching her and moving to Canada without her. Oh, they also said she was schizophrenic, none of this psychopath/sociopath nonsense they came up with for the cameras. They got the benefit of the doubt because they presented as concerned noble adoptive parents. Frankly, this case proves the laws need to be changed to requiring a GAL and child’s attorney. They scammed the system. https://www.wishtv.com/news/warrants-issued-for-indianapolis-parents-accused-of-abandoning-adopted-daughter/
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  2447. @Genesis Dawn Did you know the Barnetts Cashed In with their “charity” My Jacobs Place? Collected nearly 200k in 3 years. Charitable tax returns are public record. Here’s one that shows their biggest collection http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990_pdf_archive/581/581493949/581493949_201012_990.pdf
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  2448. @Converted Browns Fan There IS actual proof she was a child. 2 doctors from the respected children’s hospital told them she was a child. Read for yourself https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2449. People these days seem to prefer convoluted conspiracy explanations over the simple truth—That Barnetts didn’t have the heart to sacrifice for a kid with high needs that they didn’t give birth to
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  2450. I would send the Barnetts to prison
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  2451. The families before and after Barnetts say her behavior was normal. The Barnetts are not good people
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  2452.  @camiosis  Who are you trying to fool? All the counts were for Neglect of a Dependent. The 4 counts before 2014 dismissed d/t Statute of Limitations. That’s not an exoneration. 4 remain PLUS a potential contempt charge for Kristy. Meanwhile her little pseudoscientific Spark nonsense is going down. She needs to look for a new career. No one wants to be associated with her after what she’s done.
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  2453. Not exactly. (1) One court, the first one, ruled she was an adult. Next (2) CPS tried to open a CHINS case and take custody of her. It was dismissed without an adjudication because Court 1 ruled she was adult. Next (3) Her new family got a pro bono attorney and returned to Court 1 and tried to get her original age restored. Judge denied reversing the earlier order that made her an adult. No previous court had or saw all the evidence that is now available which includes the birth mother and irrefutable evidence she was born in 2003 exactly as her original birth certificate said. There has clearly been a grave miscarriage of justice.
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  2454. Those were just Barnett lies. That’s why they got arrested, because the evidence proves she was a child
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  2455. Lol. Did you just make that up? She’s still with the Mans and there’s been no issues.
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  2456. I trust her doctors and they all said she was a child back then. All except for Michael Barnett’s primary care doctor.
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  2457.  @lemaildoe  They may have WANTED to hear her lie, but they didn’t hear her lie because she’s telling the truth. If you want to hear lies just go watch one of the Barnetts interviews
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  2458.  @anthony91688  Lighten up, Francis
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  2459. Not speaking her 1st language is evidence she truly was a child of 4 when she came here. A little kid, removed from home country, into an English only home, will lose their 1st Lang within 6 months, often sooner, according to adoption professionals. It would only be odd if she still spoke her 1st Lang.
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  2460. She’s 16 now. Looks like a typical teen with dwarfism. Looked like a 6 yr old ten yrs ago.
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  2461. She’s been loved and accepted in the Mans family for 8 years now. They know the truth and are glad the story of what the Barnetts did to her is out.
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  2462. Because the girl didn’t do anything wrong.
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  2463. THEY are suckers? 😂When you’re the one believing an adult can pass for a kindergartner? Sorry, dude. No one before or after Barnetts thinks she was an adult
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  2464. You are morally ill, calling that girl “that thing”. She’s 16 years old here, fully grown, of course she doesn’t look like a little kid anymore
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  2465. Barnetts made a lot of claims and told a lot of lies. That nurse? Lol NOT a NURSE! A home care aid, a butt wiper. She’s on the PROSECUTION WITNESS LIST. lol Keep believing liars.
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  2466.  James Omar  That dipstick probable thinks she’s supposed to be 8 right now
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  2467. What you don’t understand is that there are different causes of dwarfism, with different presentations. Shauna has hypopituitarism. That means she has little to no growth hormones. That’s why she is proportionally tiny and looks young and always will look much younger. The girl in this story has Diastrophic Dysplasia. It’s a cartilage disorder that effects primarily the “long bones”. Her head size & hand size & spine length are normal sized, while her arms & legs are very short. Her disorder does not effect growth hormones or sex hormones, does not cause her face to look younger like Shauna’s does, did not effect when she shed her baby teeth & acquired adult teeth. If you look at photos of her through the years you will see her age from a young child to an adult, unmistakably. If she was already an adult you would not see such changes to her face, head, hands, baby teeth to adult teeth. Talking about that Imposter case is a red herring.
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  2468. I don’t care how many times my 11 yr old claims to be 18. I’m not handing him the car keys. Thankfully she didn’t claim to be President. They might have sent her off to D.C.
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  2469. Especially 36 inch tall, 40 pound six year olds /s
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  2470. @n. p. You read all the time about parents going on a weeks long vacation, leaving their 12&13 yr olds home alone, and They Get Arrested like they should. Here, they left her for good, plus severely disabled. She was 9 according to her original birth certificate. They deserve prison.
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  2471. You realize that NOT having an accent is evidence she WAS a young child when she migrated, right?? It’s common knowledge internationally adopted children don’t retain orig language/accents
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  2472. @M A Hey troll, go back under the rock you crawled out from under
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  2473. They are the perpetrators. Natalia was their victim. That their alibi mirrors a Hollywood movie should have been your first clue.
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  2474. They never even contacted the people they adopted her from. They could have filed suit to return her to them. Instead they fraudulently had her age changed
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  2475. @camiosis Pinocchio doesn’t even understand DNA lol
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  2476. @Jesus-is-mine The birth mother is 40. Reported by the journalists who located her & interviewed her, also interviewed Kristine (Daily Mail)
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  2477. @Jesus-is-mine Camiosis is lying. You will not read any of her “revelations” ANYWHERE. In fact, if you watch every single Barnett interview, you won’t even hear THEM saying it
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  2478. @camiosis Pinocchi🤥
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  2479. @Jesus-is-mine I think it’s harder to gage her age today, so I put more stock in the older photos. The ones from the DePauls where the dates of the photos are established. Where you can see a baby face with missing front teeth looking every bit 6 when her Ukrainian birth certificate said she was 6. A youtuber by the name Ready to Glare got an exclusive from the DePauls. Here’s a link to that video https://youtu.be/vBSl9jS4oFI
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  2480. Took her home over 6 yrs ago. Still no issues. That says a lot, combined with the medical/dental evidence. There’s good reason Barnetts are charged
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  2481. Put the name Myka Stauffer into YouTube search. See how “returning” an adopted child is viewed by the public. THAT is why Barnetts dumped her in this sneaky way. To avoid public rejection.
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  2482.  @Dgafsranger  If there are any “experts” offering the opinion that the girl was a secret adult then they ought to have their credentials revoked cause they’re a moron.
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  2483.  @natalkak.9622  No, she never had her period with them. They lied about that. No one ever documented her having a period either. They lied about that too.
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  2484. She was 6 when they adopted her in 2010. That’s why she was 16 on Phil years later. Funny how that works. Gee, tons of video of their son online but NONE of her supposedly perfect Eng in 2010??
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  2485.  @robertcronin6603  I’d have to agree with you about sociopaths lying. Read Kristine’s book and you’ll need a spread sheet to keep track of all her implausible stories.
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  2486. Isn’t the basis the fact Michael confessed? The Barnetts were charged with 8 felony counts. Plus he’s looking at her. Anyone can see she’s a teen
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  2487. @Ekin Satır Her bio mom was tracked down & agreed to DNA testing by the prosecution. BM gave an interview. Says she has ultrasound and birth records. Ultrasound will prove baby was Natalia and was born 9/4/2003
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  2488. @Ekin Satır “Committed”?!?!?!?! What?!?!? Lololol
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  2489. Ekin Satır Yea, 1 doc did, Dr McLaren. But the same month that the judge changed her age (June 2012) another dr performed a “full skeletal survey” (done w/X-rays) & said she was approx 11.
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  2490. @Ekin Satır How old do you think she was, when she was saying she was 9?
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  2491. She looked like a 9 yr old at age 9 because she really was 9.
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  2492. Nope. Cops got the right ones
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  2493. Of course there are records. They all say she was born in 2003. Her birth mother is living & cooperated w/prosecution. Her birth father is deceased.
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  2494. Katie MacNeil The police have been investigating since 2014. If she had committed ANY crime, she’d have been arrested. But she wasn’t arrested, the Barnetts were, based upon actual evidence
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  2495.  @ambergillespie8405  They are lying to discredit her, which is a common tactic of abusers. Textbook. She was a real child. The detective located her actual records. Doctors and dentists took X rays and examined her teeth (estimated age was 9 or younger in the 2012 exam), and examined her growth plates which were still open. Adults don’t even have growth plates. Even her birth mother has been located. Barnetts lied about her exams. There was not 1 test that said she was anywhere close to adult. You’re kinda proving it true, that she’s being picked on because of her dwarfism or disabilities, since science and birth records prove she was a child. (PS They weren’t foster parents. They didn’t take in anyone else. That’s just another Barnett lie. They had 3 biological sons)
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  2496. More like old family Barnetts were bonkers and bald faced liars
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  2497. Nope. Barnetts lied. The tests actually confirmed she was a child. How else you think they got arrested?
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  2498. @D. B'er Confessed that she was a child when they left her, that they knew she was a child and he said Kristine told her to lie and say she was 22
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  2499. They didn’t force Michael Barnett to confess. He did that of his own free will, speaking to the detective in the comfort of his own home. The investigation spanned 5 yrs, that’s not Quick.
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  2500. Agency was hired to facilitate by the first family Gary & Dyan ciccone. Dyan is a Harvard graduate. She didn’t misrepresent the age of the child Ciccones traveled to Ukraine to adopt.
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  2501. Dr Phil was playing both sides. Saying it was a miscarriage of justice and she’s clearly not 30 on his show. Then saying what you quoted in his own interviews, and other nasty stuff. Reminds me of High School. I think we’ve all had a “friend” who nice in private then mean in public. Two faced.
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  2502. She needs justice, and her genuine birth year restored.
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  2503. @Lizette Valdovinos But she definitely looked 6 ten years ago
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  2504.  @jameshorspool5054  She’s not the con artist, the Barnetts are. Medical and dental records confirm this. Her birth mom confirms this. And Michael admitted it
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  2505. Blinking? Wow. That’s way more reliable than the dads actual confession and the medical doctors’ opinions.
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  2506. Layla_Daemon Especially they lie when they’ve been charged with 6 felonies, facing a potential 20 yr jail term.
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  2507. NO not the Indiana Supreme Court. NOT even the Indiana Appellate Court. This kid didn’t have the money or the wherewithal to fight the bogus age change.
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  2508. camiosis You’ve been diagnosed with Sociopathic Personality Disorder, NOT Natalia
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  2509. X rays don’t lie. Skeletal x rays showed open growth plates of a young child back then; dental x rays showed she was btwn 6 & 9. That’s empirical proof
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  2510. When you know the truth, are very religious and know that God knows the truth, your family knows the truth, you don’t need to cry a lot
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  2511. No one said she had hypopituitarism. She has Diastrophic Dysplasia. Couldn’t you tell just by looking at her that she didn’t have what you have? It’s obvious she has a disproportionate form of dwarfism. People w hypopituitarism are proportionate. Her condition is completely unrelated to growth hormones, it’s a cartilage disorder that primarily effects the long bones. Her x rays are definitive, she had open growth plates. You can’t fake that. She was a child. Now she is an adult
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  2512. Even If she’s 22 (she’s not) that still means those losers abandoned a minor child and that is a crime. She came here 2008, they adopted her 2010, there’s no time for there to have been 30 fams.
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  2513. Stop lying. She is happily living with her family-of-choice today, just as she has been since 2013.
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  2514. I think it was more the caretaking she needed after surgery. After her first surgery, Kristine wasn’t happy sacrificing for a child she didn’t give birth to. Playing Super Mom to genius son was more fun
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  2515. Emily it is a horror story. But for her. And all the other little girls adopted from foreign countries who have their birth dates changed in a court, making them instant adults, and it’s ALL kept CONFIDENTIAL by the courts classifying it as “confidential adoption records”. Seriously. The potential for abuse/trafficking is staggering. There’s no oversight. No one keeping track. All confidential.
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  2516. jsaiyen211 I don’t believe that accusation. Just the way Kristine first said it caused a red flag to go up, in my perception. Then hearing Natalia and her (new) parents deny she’s ever had one, further confirmed that conclusion. I bet they (Mans) even have medical records to prove it (probably went to the dr to see if something is wrong). Kristine claims the psych hospital noted it. But she’s misrepresented a lot of doctors findings. Saying a doctor said 1 thing, when they actually didn’t.
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  2517. jsaiyen211 Bullsht. Just cause you don’t know their motive, doesn’t mean there isn’t one (or more). I can think of a few. ((Edit typo))
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  2518. @James Omar Lol Thats hysterical. Dropout= Booted for lack of critical thinking skills no doubt
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  2519. @James Omar 👏👏👏 I just sent a screenshot of this to my daughter and she responded “We love James”. She can’t believe how cruel people are being about Natalia.
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  2520. The Barnetts had 14 years added to her age. So according to them, when she was 5 and in kindergarten, she was really secretly 19. In what world is that possible? Its not. They’re lying
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  2521. The dental records say she was a child. 2012 dentist estimated she was between 6-9. Read about it here https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  2522.  @michellegulden1052  No one is forcing you to engage with them Michelle. And I don’t need permission to correct the nonsense or inaccuracies I’m reading in comments. This kid has been through hell and now insult is being added to injury thanks to the Barnett’s little character assassination tour and YouTubers taking up where her tormentors left off. Since she is under a gag order and cannot defend herself, while the “alleged” child abusers have 4 attorneys and a public relations firm working to shape public opinion on their behalf, I’m going to keep publicly defending her and setting the record straight. If you really want to know more, and I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt here because the sum of all your comments seems designed to defend the Barnetts rather than trying to understand what happened, but if you really want information then go read the documents posted to the court website under case number 20A-CR-01968 If reading legal filings is above your abilities then limit yourself to the amended probable cause affidavit. It’s shorter and covers her medical and dental assessments. mycase.in.gov
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  2523.  @michellegulden1052  They didn’t claim to be duped. They told Barnetts she was 6 and provided them with her medical records.
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  2524. Who is the other “duped” couple? I’m really curious
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  2525. Those UNKIND people didn’t pay for anything. They were collecting her SSI benefits. The govt paid. Heck they got paid to adopt her. 13 thousand dollar tax refund that year. They’re the scammers
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  2526.  @tylerm7300  What about her speech?
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  2527.  @tylerm7300  Thats preposterous. Who ever heard of an adult passing for a Kindergartner
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  2528. Yes he does! An apology to Natalia would be a great start. Then to his audience for being so irresponsibly misleading
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  2529. Chicken Code Cause he’s a liar. Liars lie. Trying to deny his confession. Garner sympathy. Typical abuser
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  2530. Bratzyybabezz She isn’t lying. The people facing 8 felonies are lying.
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  2531. The odds are 100% she was born in 2003, not 1989. Jury didn’t get to hear that evidence. Their age change scheme worked. They’re bad people
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  2532. It’s almost as if you think adoptive parents are automatically good people just because they adopted. Have you never heard of Myka & James Stauffer?
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  2533. She and the Mans are still happily a family. Whether Rogan actually said differently, or you imagined he said that, the fact remains that that is a false statement
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  2534. I imagine you hear a lot of things...that no one else hears. I think they call that schizophrenia
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  2535.  @JaneDoe12573  Barnetts adopted her from the Ciccones. The agency merely facilitated. Gary Ciccone is an architect, Dyan Ciccone is a Harvard Grad. No one scammed Barnetts. They’re liars
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  2536.  @uzieldmattus34  She had 3 different doctors, an endocrinologist & 2 orthopedic surgeons, specialists in growth disorders, take x rays & analyze her growth plates. SOLID science = child
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  2537.  @sgtfluffy718  And how do you know she had “hair”? Oh, that’s right, the criminal defendants said so!! Lol
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  2538. @Shyam Dattani Did you create this account just for me? I’m flattered. If you think I’m Natalia then get a subpoena. Put your money where your mouth is.
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  2539. @Nikolaos Mihalakis No, the first Drs who examined her said she was a child. Dr Riggs in 2010 said she was about 8. This was in the probable cause document along w/the dad’s confession
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  2540. @camiosis You get called a liar because you lie. Flat out. You lie then post an article which DOES NOT contain the information you claimed. #Pinocchio
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  2541. @James Omar After the Dr Larry Nassar travesty, who knows what’s up with that Dr. I did see a comment early on from someone claiming her friend worked in McLaren’s office and said Dr M was NOT going to be testifying on Barnetts behalf. So maybe he was duped and realizes it? Who knows? I’d be investigating him hard if I were on this case, and the lawyer they used too.
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  2542. @camiosis Kristine leaked the document. ONLY Michael’s personal physician Dr McLaren on their side. You know, the doctor that couldn’t even diagnose Natalia’s type of dwarfism
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  2543. @camiosis Michael’s confession WAS put in a court document, under oath. Michael didn’t see fit to include Natalia’s so-called confession in the court document he filed in 2012. Mike’s new wife Jennifer must be some kinda hard up loser to hitch her wagon to that clown.
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  2544. @Do Action /Those are nonsense claims of the criminally charged. There’s good reason THEY are charged and Natalia in not.
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  2545. @Do Action Do you not realize that Michael confessed?
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  2546. @Do Action Are you going to copy and paste your comment under every thread?
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  2547. camiosis As you know, the Barnetts charges, all 8 felony counts, begins when they abandoned her in 2nd Apt LaFayette, NOT the 1st apt Westfield where they brought her food regularly
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  2548. This is just your unconscious bias against someone who has a disfigurement. It’s how you interpret your reaction, because in reality she is different but not creepy.
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  2549. Ben Haney It’s really not any different than what’s happened before with other criminal cases I’ve read about. Where some guy is in prison for murder, then they catch the REAL killer and put them on trial. The real killer doesn’t get a get-out-of-jail-free card just because another guy was already convicted for it. And worse, they don’t automatically let the first guy out that was wrongfully convicted. All that matters is her chronological age. How many sunsets has she been on this earth. The prosecution can prove she is in fact a child. That they got away with having her age changed is irrelevant. She wasn’t really an adult
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  2550. She wasn’t even at the first hearing that changed her age. ZERO due process. Any body who’s seen the photos DePauls shared sees she was a child.
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  2551. Oh bull. There isn’t 1 shred of evidence that kid ever did anything to anyone. The way she said no??!? Don’t be fooled by the preposterous accusations from the criminal defendants
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  2552.  @1brotherlove829  Actually the Barnetts adopted her from the original adopters that had went to Ukraine and adopted her there. This info is in the interview Kristine gave to Daily Mail. Barnetts even met the first family. She wasn’t in State custody or foster care. Look up that interview, you’ll see. There was another family who tried to adopt her from the first family, before Barnetts. They were having extended overnight visits with her. Ultimately the first family turned them down. They are the DePauls and they did an interview too. They have pics of her missing her front baby teeth, which typically happens ages 6-7.
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  2553. The bath story is bull. That was supposedly the 1st night. Yet, after the 6month period of her in their home they went to court & finalized the adoption making it legally binding. If this story was true they would not have finalized the adoption.
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  2554. Darlene Achille To not have to devote their lives to a disabled child needing multiple surgeries, when they could be jet setting with their son
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  2555.  @kathywilson8785  Back in 2013 Canada still had very strict immigration policies against potential heavy users of healthcare. Whether it was a child with leukemia or Downs, or someone like Natalia who needed a doz surgeries. In 2018 Canada revamped the 40 yr old policy to be more inclusive.
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  2556. They made it all up because their bio son got into a top university in Canada & she wouldn’t be cleared to go. They needed a “legal” way to leave her behind. Changed her age so she’d be legal.
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  2557. How many years do you figure she should cry? Cause it’s been over 7yrs. Almost half a lifetime ago. And now her abusers have finally been arrested!! That soothes some pain.
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  2558. F you calling a disabled person lazy.
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  2559. Nope. She was born in 2003. The Barnetts concealed evidence from the court to get her age changed.
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  2560. They’re a day late and a dollar short
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  2561. Lol yas dr Phil, you should bElieVe a defense that’s ripped straight from a movie script. Lol
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  2562. The new family said 14, not 17. And it makes sense because that test was done in 2016/17
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  2563. As opposed to Michael Barnetts bugged out, crazy looking eyes? Lol
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  2564. Who knows if that’s true or not. Either way the doctors who examined her said she was a child.
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  2565. They hope people think “They shouldn’t have left her but I can understand why they did” instead of thinking “What utter scum they are to do that to s disabled kid”. Looks like the lies worked on you
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  2566. @Hannah m That’s the Barnetts alibi. Medical records from 2008 show doctors needed a translator so she obviously didn’t speak English at first https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2019/12/12/michael-and-kristine-barnett-face-more-charges-abandoning-natalia/4413571002/
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  2567. 40? Wow? Her birth mother gave birth to her at age 4, huh? Okaaaaaay
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  2568. Don’t be sorry. Be proud to stand against the ignorant masses who couldn’t think their way out of a paper bag.
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  2569. No, they will make a documentary similar to The Trials Of Gabriel Fernandez. He was another victim of child abuse that the system failed. Just like the system failed Natalia, Until Now
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  2570.  @sethantoniorodriguez9190  I guess we are really different. I determine what’s true/false based upon objective facts. I think for myself. You go along with whatever you think the masses say.
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  2571. You know that? How? Because the criminal defendants say so??
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  2572. Yes, that actually WAS done. Her birth mother located, DNA tested, has all the original pregnancy/delivery/relinquishment records. She unequivocally was born 2003, not 1989
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  2573. @johnmonk66 Thank you for your suggestion. I’ll take that under advisement.
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  2574. @johnmonk66 Yes, they sometimes do. And sometimes get caught and called out. Like Michael’s attorney. He found the right one for himself. Check this out https://www.in.gov/judiciary/files/order-discipline-2014-49S00-0905-DI-235.pdf
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  2575. @johnmonk66 Not according to the probable cause affidavit. Here’s a link to it if you haven’t read it https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2576. @johnmonk66 I’m really surprised you’re buying into the Barnett defense. You don’t seem the type to prefer a complex & convoluted alternative explanation over the obvious one.
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  2577. @johnmonk66 I don’t know where you’re getting your “facts”, but that timeline I gave you is true.
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  2578. @johnmonk66 She didn’t spend 6 yrs with anyone other than her current family, the Mans. The Ciccone’s adopted her July 2008. Based upon her Ukrainian birth certificate, she was age 4. She was re-adopted to the Barnetts May 2010 (age 6). Barnetts got her birth certificate amended in June 2012 (from born 2003 to born 1989). She never lived with them again after the age change. The Mans took her in in Aug 2013. In addition to medical & dental evaluations which said she was a minor (with various age ranges given, from the age on her original bc being spot on, to being up to 3 yrs older), there is the matter of her putative birth mother in Ukraine who says that her original birth certificate was correct. I think it can be harder to guess anyone’s age with each passing year. I found it most persuasive to look backwards. The photos the DePauls (the potential adopters, little people family) shared shows an obvious very young child. There’s no way she was teen in those photos.
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  2579. @johnmonk66 The Marion Co court is not superior to the Tippecanoe co court. The age change was not ruled upon by the IN appellate court or IN State Supreme co. There is legislation on the books which says that court orders obtained fraudulently are void ab initio. The Tippecanoe Co prosecutor alleges that the age change was obtained via fraud. They intend to prove that Natalia was in fact a minor and they had sufficient evidence for the Tippecanoe Co judge to approve the charges. The take away being that if Natalia is in fact a minor, an age change approved by Marion Co is not sufficient to shield them from prosecution for crimes committed in Tippecanoe Co. I agree with that.
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  2580. No, it’s NOT the same court. The fraudulent age change occurred in Marion County. The “alleged” crimes occurred in Tippecanoe County. So Tippecanoe is prosecuting them.
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  2581. Yea that whiny hypocrite. Cries foul when CNN said he took “horse dewormer” but yukked it up pretty good when defaming this girl, a victim of degenerate adopters, who was a real child
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  2582. @D. Hurst When they first adopted her, son Jacob was not famous at all. After a news story about him in March 2011, suddenly he & Kristine were in demand. Kristine couldn’t traipse all over w/him if she had to stay home caretaking Natalia after surgeries or take Natalia with them. I think she viewed Natalia as a detriment to Jacobs rising star and her own career aspirations. No one buys a book from a parenting failure and adopted child dumper. Natalia, being Not their biological child, was expendable. But she had to be dumped in a way they thought would not reflect badly upon them. If you look back as all the interviews and the book, you would never know Natalia even existed. Only the 60 minutes piece captured video evidence of Natalia for about 2 seconds.
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  2583. @D. Hurst Definitely not the kid’s fault. Another sign of what kind of parents Barnetts are. Sons aren’t so little anymore. Jake is 22, Wes 19, Ethan 16. Oldest 2 still in Canada. Not a peep defending their parents.
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  2584. Just remember, Mike & Kristine are the architects of this media circus. They chose to go on the character assassination tour. They could’ve waited quietly for their day in court.
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  2585. Who cares what degree Phil has. The real medical doctors say she was a child. Couple of dentists say child, too. Birth mom also confirmed she was born 2003.
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  2586.  @haitaiamber5805  As a grown woman w/ disabilities she qualifies for free healthcare & SSI. Point being, she had nothing to gain by pretending. Second point- she did NOT fake anything, Barnetts did
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  2587.  @squeakyfromme83  Research says that psychopaths are no more likely to falsely pass than are non-psychopaths. Look it up.
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  2588.  @hopefully2224  You sure are confused who the psycho is.
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  2589.  James Omar  Absolutely
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  2590.  James Omar  Look at everything @sadistic posted
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  2591.  sadistic  Fantastic!! I wish this was higher on the thread!!!
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  2592.  @alxandro5504  😂
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  2593.  @alxandro5504  Ok, well every time I write “preposterous” just think “absurd” instead
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  2594. Her birth mother was found, all her documents & medical records, there is no question that she was a child born in 2003, not 1989
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  2595. The State of Indiana uncovered her actual medical & dental records & birth mother confirming that she was a child when they abandoned her. They changed her age & collected her SSI, paid for Nothing with their own money. They are the scammers.
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  2596. Dustin Mulligan What kinda drugs did you say you were on?
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  2597.  James Omar  Pretty soon the Barnutters are going to have Natalia giving birth to biological mother Anna Gava!! Oh look, Yodel Man & Thank You just joined a week ago and just happened to wander onto this year old video. The minions are getting worried as they see public opinion starting to support Natalia.
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  2598. Of course she isn’t 6. She was born in 2003, confirmed by her birth mother. She was 6 when they adopted her in 2010. Shes 17 now
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  2599. She’s not. The adopters borrowed the plot of Orphan to justify their neglect. They never actually believed she was an adult
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  2600.  @NickRoman  Something significant did happen. Their biological son started getting famous. They had interviews all over the world and no time to take care of a child they weren’t biologically related to. That lack of time led to her elementary school reporting them for medical neglect. They wanted her gone but didn’t want to look like a-holes (look how Myka Stauffer was excoriated for re-homing her adopted son). Kristine had a book coming out about their stellar parenting and giving back your disabled adopted daughter would have blown the book deal (sold the movie rights, too, in 2011 before book was released). That’s why the sneaky age change. They got her gone and it was “her fault”, not theirs. Also a great way to discredit her preemptively in case she disclosed any other abuse that was happening.
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  2601. I think so too. Look at that apt they stuck her in. It’s upstairs with an OUTSIDE staircase. In INDIANA. With snowy & icy winters.
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  2602. The dad, Michael, confessed. He confessed. Additionally the police investigated for 5 Long years. She had testing done by Experts, BarNutts concealed those results. Read it here https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2603.  @jewgirl952  I think if she had any hair at all that it wasn’t much. Because the little people family DePauls who gave interview/s said she didn’t while with them 5 months earlier. So if it’s true at all, it couldn’t have been much. I think they are pulling the classic “abuse then accuse”. If you watched the Netflix documentary The Trials Of Gabriel Fernandez, murdered by child abuse from his mom and step dad, the police returned him to his house of horrors only 4 months before his murder and actually told that dear little boy that if he didn’t stop lying and claiming his parents abused him that the next time they’d take him to jail!! The abusers actually convinced the police that his injuries were from a fight at school and that he lied when he said mom and stepdad did it.(Edit corrected typo)
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  2604. She was 8 when they had her age changed to 22 by a judge who had not met the girl. Today she is 17, but legally 31 thanks to their fraudulent age change
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  2605.  @vascularlab  She actually was 6. Having dwarfism makes you short, it doesn’t make a 20yr old look like a 6yr old. She looked 6 because she was 6
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  2606. @James Omar Look at how Kristine’s supporter is bragging that the age charges were dismissed because of Statute of Limitations, pretending it’s an acquittal. #Camiosis
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  2607.  @assafi7724  I know people like you like to bully kids and don’t like being called out on it. You’ve probably been doing it your whole life. Not cool. Decent normal people Do care about this girl.
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  2608.  @assafi7724  She didn’t have hair or a period. Period!
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  2609.  @jadyn4879  If a girl had hair & a period then she would also have breast development. Yet we see in photos Nothing at all up top. That’s how the photos prove they’re lying
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  2610.  @camiosis9024  TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. Where did it go?? No money left when she shut it down and fled the country. Hmmm
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  2611.  @s.o.o4800  Watch the interview and pay attention. She wasn’t in 30 homes. She said that was what Kristine told her. It is UNDISPUTED she was never in foster care
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  2612. The criminal case against the Barnetts accusing them of child abuse/neglect did not impact Natalia’s constitutional rights to sue those degenerates. Hold onto your wallet Kristy😂
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  2613.  @jadyn4879  You can see in her photos at 6 yrs of age that she had not hit puberty. Barnetts are liars
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  2614.  @camiosis9024  Yes, Barnetts are definitely con artists. You should look at even before this. Kristine started a “non profit” and collected THOUSANDS before shutting it & moving. No one knows where the money went
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  2615. Personally I think she should have called them Perp 1 and Perp 2
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  2616. AgentPanda37 Yea, No. Barnetts are strait up liars trying to stay out of jail.
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  2617. Cause they are guilty
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  2618. She’s 16, not 22. First adopters actually traveled to Ukraine & adopted her there. Then at Boston Children’s Hospital Dr noted in records she didn’t speak English & he had to bring in translator.
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  2619. For reason which were not legitimate, the parents got her birth certificate amended and added 14 YEARS. A travesty
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  2620. Oh? You think they hadn’t? Why do you think the Barnetts were arrested ?
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  2621.  @princessbanana4625  She is a child, 17 yrs old to be exact. The Barnetts were lying this whole time.
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  2622.  @ijooeyy315  She didn’t have a adult teeth. You must not have looked very close at her pictures, or looked at pics of her at 14/15/16 and mistakenly Thought you were seeing a pic of her at 6
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  2623.  @ijooeyy315  She isn’t a freak. Grow the F up. She’s 17 now and it’s been proven irrefutably with the location of her birth mother, her 41yr old Ukrainian birth mother
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  2624. What’s so coincidental about having dwarfism and being victimized by terrible parents? If anything her complex and substantial disabilities were part of the reason those losers noped out.
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  2625.  @drbog502  There wasn’t a test that showed her to be in her 20’s. There was a doctor, the parent’s family practitioner, who “agreed” was was probably 22 but his opinion was not based upon any medical tests. The value of his opinion pales in comparison to the other doctors, specialists not generalists, who did objective medical tests which clocked her within 1-3 years of her original birth certificate. I can appreciate the appeal of this story. Like I appreciated the movie Catch Me if You Can. But at the heart of it is a human being. A person who was betrayed by the very ones who pledged to love her forever. It’s heartbreaking. They didn’t just dump her. They changed the directory of her life. The fraudulent age change robbed her of normal life experiences like junior high and high school. So no friends and clubs and building a lifetime of memories. All foreclosed because she was past the age of regular schooling. This also meant no preparation for higher education. No PSAT of SAT and the chance to earn scholarships. Even medically it’s had an impact. She’s been denied necessary surgeries because of the problem between how old the doctors think she is vs how old her amended birth certificate says she is. She lives with pain that increased with every passing day. Now on top of all this, she is having HER character assassinated by the very ones who abused and abandoned her in the first place. It’s really unspeakable what they have done.
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  2626.  @drbog502  This story is far more convoluted than you’re aware of. It’s actually a serious case of injustice that will have you wondering how the heck they got away with this as long as they did. They might still get away with it. But, to answer your question, they adopted her in 2010 when she was 6. By the time of this Dr Phil episode she was 16. She just turned 17 this past September. But legally, because they got her birthdate changed from 2003 to 1989, she “turned” 31
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  2627. You think? Cause I’m thinking it more probable to read about her successful civil suit against her abusers and their “accomplices”
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  2628. Because they are pieces of sht
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  2629. See all the pictures on the Justice For Natalia Grace blog https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  2630. I’m not a doctor either, but figured out the Barnetts were lying. It’s not a difficult mystery
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  2631.  @camiosis  I see you still have not read the court decision and are still telling porky 🐷 pies
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  2632.  @camiosis9024  Lol You obviously haven’t read Meyer’s opinion. That’s not what he said. Also, there wasn’t any court hearing in 2015.
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  2633. So you believe their cock-n-bull story that an adult tricked them into thinking she was a child?! Lol
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  2634. @bennyhondo But Gabrielle is right about the girl. And right about people who believe the Barnett’s preposterous alibi.
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  2635. jsaiyen211 That’s called confirmation bias. You think they’re innocent, so you look at all the information through that lens instead of objectively
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  2636. J J That’s cause she came over in 2008 at age 4. Immigration records proves it. The “30 families” story is a LIE. Go check out the blog for further info https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  2637. Watching the Barnett’s interviews proves they are liars. They don’t even tell the same stories. Their own sons aren’t even standing up for them!! They were getting HER ssi checks. They “paid” with HER MONEY.
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  2638.  @heliabaharloo5053  Actually the mom claimed she made drawings, not the school. They weren’t notified by the school. There’s no independent evidence of the purported drawings
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  2639. The “adult” made a scary crayon drawing? Sounds like what an adult would do
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  2640. Team Natalia 💯
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  2641.  @teabaggervance8  lol
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  2642. Jazz Bquick If she was an adult, why did the judge approve 6 felony charges against Barnetts?
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  2643. That test in MI was 2+ years ago. That Dr is an expert and is testifying for the prosecution along with other experts who previously examined her.
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  2644.  @DevMfWalker  The Barnetts created the so-called age controversy. Her age was not in doubt at all before them. Here’s the background: She was first adopted by an east coast couple (Ciccones) in July 2008. They adopted her internationally, traveling to Ukraine to do so as required by Ukrainian law. I know the date she was adopted because it says so in all the court filings by both Barnetts and The State. She had a Ukrainian birth certificate. You cannot adopt a child in Ukraine without one. The US requires this also because the US has laws to prevent child trafficking. You cannot get an entry visa for the child without one. The Barnetts had her birth certificate and they also had a copy of the Ciccones adoption decree. It says so on the court motion the Barnetts filed in 2012 when they asked the court to amend her birth certificate (from birth year 2003 to birth year 1989). This document was leaked to the press by Kristine back in Sept/Oct 2019. The easiest way to see that is on the JusticeForNataliaGrace blog, but I have also seen it on the local news channel. That filing alone evidences Barnett lies. They said it was a closed adoption and all they got was her birth certificate and a photo and one doctor visit record. But their own filing shows they had the Ciccones adoption decree. This shows (1) Lied by omission, didn’t mention adoption decree (2) Lied claiming it was a closed adoption; in a closed adoption you don’t get the other family’s adoption decree. The Barnetts claimed her birth certificate was inaccurate. They didn’t explain exactly how an inaccurate birth certificate would come into existence. They just let people’s imaginations run with it. We now know that the original birth certificate was correct because her birth mother was located and she submitted to maternity testing via DNA. Maternity testing is just as accurate as Paternity testing. The BM is now 41 so that means BM was born about 1980. Although within the realm of possibility that she could have given birth to her in, say, 1996, her documents prove otherwise. She has her ultrasound showing fetal abnormalities and has the original hospital records showing she gave birth to a child with dwarfism on Sept 2003. Natalia was her second child and she was married but separated at the time of her birth. The birth father is now deceased. Because Natalia has dwarfism, the documents cannot be those of her other children because none of them have dwarfism. So in addition to the medical and dental evidence that proved Natalia was a minor child when they abandoned her, we now know her age exactly and it was exactly as represented to the Barnetts when they adopted her.
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  2645. Why do you assume she had no birth certificate? The Barnetts said they were given her birth certificate. Of course they lie & claim it was inaccurate.
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  2646. She wasn’t
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  2647. Unfortunately for Barnetts, their scheme was figured out. Cops found her Actual medical & dental records, as well as her birth mom. She was truly a child, is now 17.
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  2648. How do you know? Is it because the arrested parents said so, after they were arrested? No chance they’re trying to distract from the crimes against her that they’re accused of?
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  2649.  @GabbyJackson-nc4gn  The Barnetts 3 sons are all biologically theirs
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  2650. What little boy?
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  2651. If the Barnetts had any proof of their fantastical allegations this child would have been adjudicated in juvenile court 10yrs ago. Now that we know they lied about her age, why would you give ANY benefit of the doubt to far fetched allegations? Makes no sense
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  2652. Imagine thinking a teen girl who speaks intelligently must be a secret adult.
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  2653. If adoptive parents are just like bio parents then they can be criticized just like bio parents are. Barnetts are the worst
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  2654. People are so gullible, believing this nonsense story the Barnett parents are peddling
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  2655. @Sharee Brown Judge for yourself. The story Kristine tells starts at the 13min24sec mark. Ask yourself if this story rings true or false. A dying newborn left unattended w/no oxygen https://youtu.be/9i2mlnLJx0c
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  2656. Before she lied about Natalia, she lied about other people in her family. You should see this crazy video of a speech Kristine gave claiming she saved her nephews life. Bizarre woman
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  2657. Maddie Hoover Barnetts did get her records changed. True. As far as Tippecanoe co court is concerned that was concealment of a crime.
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  2658. Because the story the Barnetts are telling, which sounds suspiciously like a Hollywood movie, is plausible?
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  2659. Perhaps someone in their family was hurting her. Lying about her is intended to preemptively discredit her.
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  2660. What evidence have you seen that she is a psycho? How do you know you’re not being gullible by believing the Barnetts claims? After all, their claims are pretty far fetched
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  2661. Dorothy when the first parents, the Ciccones, adopted her in 2008, she was 4 yrs old according to her birth certificate. She went to kindergarten and 1st grade with the Ciccones. She went to Boston Children’s Hospital for medical care. Her orthopedic surgeons took many x rays and mapped out her needed surgeries. You may not know much about medicine, but any doctor will tell you that only children have growth plates. Natalia had growth plates. There is no doubt whatsoever that she was a child. The Barnetts knew, but simply didn’t care.
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  2662. But you can’t fake ex rays. Her ex rays said she was a child. Not this bone density nonsense. Growth plates. Kids have em, adults don’t. She had them. Those Barnetts deserve jail time.
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  2663. She IS 16 yrs old. Why shouldn’t she be calm? Her abusive former parents are Finally arrested. The gig is up. They are caught. Finally.
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  2664. It’s a miracle she wasn’t kidnapped or assaulted. I shudder to think what would have happened to her if the Mans hadn’t taken her in.
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  2665. Sweetie, do you realize that you are participating in Bullying a girl who has been horribly mistreated by her adoptive parents? This is why bullying never ends. You think you’re right but you’re wrong
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  2666. The Barnetts are not what they are pretending to be. These are some cold & callous child abusers. This girl was not a secret adult. She was an innocent & defenseless child.
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  2667. Kara Smith Sounded like you did believe them (Barnetts) You repeated their nonsense as if it was fact. When the fact is Barnetts got caught finally.
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  2668. So you believe the criminal defendants?? With their fantastical story?
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  2669. And if she is from Ukraine? Will that change your opinion about who’s lying (her or Barnetts)?
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  2670. You don’t have to believe her. Believe Michael Barnett’s confession. He said they knew she was a child when they left her.
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  2671. @Holden S Sorry, I shouldn’t be so rude
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  2672.  @TiffTALKS22  In your original comment you asked “Why wouldn’t she say what started happening”.
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  2673.  @TiffTALKS22  You post questions then act surprised when someone answers?? Newsflash Ms-TiffTALKS22-afraid-to-use-your-real-name, you entered a public forum
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  2674. Who knows how long the actual interview was, what else she said and why they edited it the way they did? But did you hear the part of her birth mother being found? The prosecution did DNA testing, so it’s really her. She has her hospital and birth records and relinquishment papers. It proves she was born in 2003. The Barnetts weren’t scammed, THEY are the scammers
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  2675. She was 6 when they adopted her. That was back in 2010. She didn’t do anything wrong.
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  2676. No. She didn’t do “this” to a second family. She didn’t do “this” to a first family. THEY did it to HER. She was a child.
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  2677.  @jadebennett2693  They spoke to the adoptive dad Michael, the one under indictment currently, on the phone. It’s not a conspiracy, just a novel scheme by a couple of losers to ditch their kid with impunity
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  2678.  @jadebennett2693  They spoke to the adoptive dad who left her, multiple times. They spoke to the police. Her age had already been changed. At that point the police weren’t doing anything. So kudos to them for not leaving a child in a dangerous situation. This was their one and only interview. Of course you can’t get the complete story from one interview. But if you did more research, you would. Her birth mom was found, DNA confirmed, has all the receipts. She’s older now, but was def born 2003
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  2679. What would you do if you found a child, who was clearly a child, still had baby teeth, and you talk to her adoptive dad and he tries to tell you she’s really an adult? The police say there’s nothing they can do. Do you leave her?
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  2680.  @jaxxoceans3866  I agree those orphanages are horrible places. Which is why many Americans adopt from there rather than from the US. Because, generally, they want to give a child a better life. But just saying “corruption” does NOTHING to dispel the actual evidence in this case. Evidence which includes many US doctors, US dentists, the birth mothers documents, and the photos supplied by the DePauls of her looking exactly like a 6 year old with baby teeth compared to her matured features w/added height and adult teeth today. The preponderance of the evidence is weighted in favor of Natalia being a child/teen and Barnetts being liars.
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  2681.  @amandaturner2973  You’re chastising the guy defending the girl who was abused by her adoptive parents. I guess that makes you a supporter of the abusers. Mkay
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  2682. Patricia Retuya Exactly!! If she was really an adult when she came over She Would Have An Accent!! Only little kids lose their accent. This Proves She Was A Child.
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  2683. Did it make sense when the dad said she ran into the room to meet them, but the mom said she couldn’t walk then ran to the water at the beach & they were stunned??
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  2684. Yeah, let’s do that. Let’s take the opinions of Natalia’s past doctors. Dr Millis & Dr Spencer & Dr Emans & Dr Harris from Boston Children’s Hospital, who also teach at Harvard Medical School. Then Dr Riggs, Dr Maskill, Dr Thompson, Dr Demetris. Don’t forget dentist Dr Deckard. Every single one of these doctors say she was a young child when Barnetts adopted her. But, I suspect, you don’t really want to hear from real doctors. Because they contradict the Barnetts family doctor Andrew McLaren, the hack who didn’t even get her type of dwarfism correct. There isn’t a single other doctor on Barnetts side.
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  2685. Sure, cause the criminal defendants said so. You must find it easy to believe criminal defendants that look like you. No matter how preposterous their claims, apparently
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  2686.  @JackalBlack  If you look, you’ll see a sht ton of my comments. The court was late is putting a gag order on Barnetts. The dad did about 6-7 interviews plus made comments outside of court on the regular before they acted. But as soon as Natalia made plans to go on Dr Phil, boom gag order on her and the Mans. So these people have been on a virtual character assassination tour. The dad even hired a public relations firm!! They have 4 lawyers between them. Meanwhile, this kid is just at the mercy of everyone else. No lawyer of public relations firm on her side. That didn’t sit well with me, so I’ve taken to commenting and trying to set the record strait. People can have their own opinions, but those opinions should at least be exposed to facts in this case. I’ve also engaged in my own research and acquired a lot more peripheral information (like about the charity they had for a few years; very interesting). The majority of the YouTube videos are replete with errors. Some of the newspapers aren’t much better. Very eye opening.
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  2687.  @JackalBlack  It’s in appeals because the judge said it’s too late to challenge the age change. So they might beat the rap. But at least she has all her records now and her birth mom evidence, so it could end up the OJ route (acquitted criminally, guilty civilly). It could be years before a true resolution. Be that as it may, not trying to force this on you. Take care.
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  2688.  @JackalBlack  Sorry I was writing when your other reply came through
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  2689. They are lying about the period. They are lying about her trying to kill them. Lil wisp of a kid who can barely walk or hold a pencil. These people are strait up abusers
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  2690. @Davey Rankin No, she’s with the same family she’s been with since 2013. Very happy. No issues.
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  2691. Your step daughter sounds like the Barnetts. They were the ones lying. This girl was a real child.
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  2692. @James Omar I also never heard of this Seared stuff. All I could find was that it’s a religious explanation for why some people don’t have a conscience. So she’s basically describing Natalia like she’s Dahmer or something and doesn’t have a conscience. That’s also another trope from the Attachment Disorder crowd—that the children are budding serial killers and strong measures are needed to prevent this. It’s how they justify the extremely cruel treatment of this kids. Like it’s for their own good.
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  2693. @James Omar She says she “lived it” with parents who were misled by CPS and adopted some terror child. That’s the story these people tell. All boils down to parents being innocent & good while the child is vilified
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  2694. @James Omar It is abuse and it’s rampant within the ranks of people pushing pseudoscientific theories of AD Attachment Disorder. RAD is a legitimate diagnosis, but even there you find practitioners adherence to “symptoms” that are not listed in the DSM5. Some adoptive parents just want to blame the child rather than take responsibility. Every problem in the parent/child relationship gets blamed on the adopted child or the mythical “things that happened Before the adoption”. It all adds up to ‘Child Bad~Parent Good’. Children have died in the course of “Attachment Therapy”.
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  2695. @James Omar Here how the “attachment disorder” crowd advocates “treating” children https://youtu.be/tNoIIwO3uIk
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  2696.  @singhispraise365  Which parents word are you taking? The criminally charged parents who had her for 2 years (Barnetts) or the parents who took her in and have lived with her for 8 years (Mans)? The Mans have known her FOUR TIMES longer than the Barnetts. The Mans are not accused of any crime. The Mans do not receive any government money for her (as she is a “legal” adult). Why would you believe the Barnetts over the Mans?
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  2697. She’s 15 there. That is a photo from the Mans, the folks who have raised her since 2013. You should see the DePaul photos from Oct 2009. Missing front teeth like a normal 6yr old
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  2698. They can and they did scientifically determine her age to within a 0-3 yr range. Barnetts, like most criminal defendants or child abusers, are using smoke & mirrors to detract from their behavior
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  2699. The Barnetts are lying. Well, except when dear old dad admitted she was a kid to the detective.
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  2700.  @sophiew1967  It’s amazing how many excuses & theories you come up with in order to not accept the reality that the Barnetts are bad people
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  2701.  @qa6r  It is what it is. Daily Mail is who interviewed the birth mom and Kristine Barnett. The DNA results however was reported by the reputable Journal and Courier
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  2702.  James Omar  What a shocker!! Lol not. Yup arrived right on cue. Gee, that’s interesting. More transparent than a Pella Window
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  2703. Dismissal order on hold. Nothing is dismissed unless the Court of Appeals says so. Let’s hope legal technicalities doesn’t let these abusers off. It’s proven she was a child
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  2704.  @camiosis9024  All the charges are still pending. Says so on court website. How embarrassing for you. Maybe the COA will dismiss them, maybe they won’t.
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  2705.  @camiosis9024  DNA tests need to be witnessed by the court?! Lol You’re full of crap. Unmarried dads take Legally Admissible DNA tests everyday, at Validated labs. Try again
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  2706. Cause he’s a good man, a good father. He practices what he preaches
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  2707. Nigel Charlson That’s incorrect.
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  2708. What are you talking about? Not only did her actual records show she was a child, but now her birth mother was confirmed and her records show she birthed her in 2003. The Barnetts are liars
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  2709. Alicia H They went so far as to dump her in a different county, over an hour from their old home, so no one knew she was left behind. People that knew them thought they took her with them.
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  2710. Abby Lea I know. Here’s the police probable cause affidavit if you’re interested https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2711. Abby Lea The dad Barnett already admitted it, back in September, that she was a child when they ditched her.
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  2712. She actually didn’t go through 30 homes. That was what the ex mom told her, to gaslight her. Another family came forward defending her
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  2713. Brenda, they claim they were “cold called” by the agency. Come on now. That baloney has a first name. Barnetts are Lying left and right
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  2714. The adoption was finalized in an Indiana court after the statutory 6 month waiting period. It was legal. What wasn’t legal was defrauding the court to get her age changed, then abandoning her
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  2715. You should see the ones who post that they’re 30 and look younger than her, then you look at their photo and they are weather beaten as all get out, looking every bit 40yrs old. Delusional
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  2716. Like most conspiracy theories, that fails to hold up under scrutiny. She was living in NH with the people who plucked her out of the Ukrainian orphanage until she was re-adopted by the Barnetts. Under what circumstances is it even Possible for her to have conspired with the Mans? She’d have never met the Mans were it not for the Barnetts abandoning her in LaFayette.
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  2717. @Pertinent Prick It’s not difficult for doctors who specializes in dwarfism and growth disorders to accurately assess her age. And that’s exactly what they did, determining she was a child
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  2718. The prosecutor said in court that the DNA test confirmed Anna Gava was her biological mother.
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  2719.  @camiosis9024  You can claim whatever, but I go by the medical findings in the court documents and the 2008 medical documents released by DePauls. Michael confessed sis. Accept it.
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  2720.  @camiosis9024  the National Organization For Rare Disorders disagrees. Maybe you should send them your CV and professional opinion so they can update their database.
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  2721.  @camiosis9024  Natalia doesn’t have hypopituitarism
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  2722.  @camiosis9024  I was raised that it was impolite to laugh at someone’s ignorance or low IQ, but I can’t even stop myself with this utter nonsense you post
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  2723.  @camiosis9024  Evidence is presented at trial, not “turned in” to the judge like homework. The COA granted the appeal and assumed jurisdiction, so save your worthless legal analysis. Tell Kristine she best be filing her response! She only has 3 more days til the deadline. What’s the holdup? Hasn’t she paid her attorneys ? Must be costing a fortune. What’s she gonna do now that no one wants her phony Spark lessons.
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  2724.  @camiosis9024  What are you talking about? The Ciccones got all her records when they adopted her.
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  2725.  James Omar It’s no wonder the sons no longer speak the Michael. Someday they’ll go no contact with Kristine as well.
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  2726.  @camiosis9024  So was just a figure of speech when he said she ran to the ocean? If it was just a figure of speech then why was it so stunning?
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  2727.  James Omar  Yea, sCam did her usual distraction and deflect by bringing up Dr Phil and then lying by claiming Natalia used the word Proximity, when she absolutely didn’t. That’s her style. 1)Take a fact (Natalia was on Dr Phil) then 2) mix in an outright lie (claims someone said something they didn’t say) then 3) Try to make a point based on the lie (saying “I didn’t use it against her”)
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  2728.  James Omar  Cam is full force I see. Making things up as usual. Like claiming Natalia used the word “PROXIMITY”. I recorded the Phil episode. Natalia did NOT say that. Typical Cam Sham Scam. She’s been doing that since Day 1. Then refers to the endocrinologist when it was the endocrinologist who told Kristine that his testing and evaluation in 2010 was that she was approximately 8 years old. So Cam obviously isn’t going by the endocrinologist’s opinion. You were absolutely correct, James, that Mikey said Natalia ran into the room. Yet Kristine said she couldn’t walk and claimed there was nothing in the paperwork stating that. So of course Cam is gonna twist that as well. Then the nonsense of the judge getting another birth certificate from Ukraine? Yea totally off the deep end with that fiction. All the Ukraine documents confirm Natalia was born Sept 2003. Inconvenient facts for the Kristine fans.
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  2729.  2 Crazy  The Barnetts picked her up in FL at start of May 2010; took custody; adoption was finalized 6 months later in their home state of Indiana Nov 2010. Before final they weren’t obligated
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  2730.  @camiosis9024  😂Now you claim the prosecutor is lying. Sure eeeeverybody is lying except for Kristine. Book publisher ought to demand she payback what they paid her
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  2731. Speaking of fiction~ the book Kristine wrote. That woman is incapable of telling the truth about her children.
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  2732. Nice Try liar. Not only have the charges NOT been dropped, they’ve added more counts. The abusive parents, Barnetts, are facing a potential 20 yrs.
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  2733. Even Joe? Does Joe know the truth? He seemed like he bought the parents story, but that was over a year ago
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  2734. @cazprescott9 Another thing is in Ukraine there are no adoption agencies. The government has a special department that oversees/administers adoptions. All adoptions must take place in Ukraine. After that the new parents are permitted to leave with their adopted child. Then according to US policy, when the child enters the US with their parents they automatically become US citizens.
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  2735.  @jaxxoceans3866  You said a Ukrainian orphanage will lie to get a child adopted. Will they lie to get an adult adopted? Let’s say they got a rich American couple on the hook, are they gonna give them the adult, who they could be rid of by tossing onto the streets, or a “real” child that they are paying to take care of?
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  2736. What’s the chances of an adult passing themselves off as a FOUR year old? Not 14, or even 12, but 4yrs old? That’s how old she was when the first family went and selected her at the Ukrainian orphanage. US customs and immigration didn’t notice a thing, when this “adult” presented with a passport saying FOUR? That first family took her for a full work up at Boston Children’s Hospital. The number 1 Children’s Hospital in all of the US. And those doctors there never had a single concern she was older than what her birth certificate said. Then she started Kindergarten. As an “adult”? Really? Yet the teacher didn’t notice. Nor the 1st grade, nor the 2nd grade teachers. Then the first family decides they can’t handle her and getting a surgery once or twice a year for the next 10 years. It kinda cramped their style. So they look for new parents. Enter the little people family the DePauls. They already have a little girl and wanted a sister for her, with dwarfism just like they do. And they spend long weekends getting to know her. Bathing her, too. She loses her first baby tooth while she’s with them. And THEY didn’t notice she was really an “adult”?? Does this really sound plausible?? That she’s really an adult? A crazed adult trying to kill the entire family?? Come on. It doesn’t even pass the smell test.
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  2737.  @gfeast4518  I don’t believe their accusations of murder attempts. They did NOT allege those Back Then. Only now, since they’ve been arrested. It’s now established conclusively by her birth mother that they lied about her being an adult. So they have no credibility to asserts claims without evidence. Additionally her family of 7+ yrs hasn’t seen ANY behavior like that. It’s a smear campaign, nothing more/less
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  2738.  @gfeast4518  The case is solved. The evidence proves it. She was a child. NOW it’s just a matter of IF they will be punished or not, cause they might actually get away with it due to legal technicalities
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  2739. I’m not a doctor either, but I can certainly tell the difference between a child and an adult. She was a child
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  2740. Almost. She turns 18 in Sept.
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  2741. The Barnetts are horrible people. Worse that Myka Stauffer and James Stauffer and what they did to their adopted son
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  2742. She’s is a citizen. If she was the scammer her citizenship would have been revoked. But it wasn’t. Because it’s Barnetts who are the scammers
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  2743. That “30 families” is a Barnett lie. Michael said she was relinquished only 5 minutes before they arrived at the agency.
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  2744. Now that N’s age has been solved, there is another mystery. The almost two hundred thousand dollars Kristine’s non profit My Jacobs Place pulled in over 3 yrs. Where’d that money go?
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  2745. That’s the biggest NON issue. I don’t even get what people like you think that means (and that’s even IF it was true). Why would a kid who came over at 4 still speak a lang they ain’t spoke in 2 yrs??
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  2746. The people who abandoned her are not the ones who originally adopted her in Ukraine. Sadly, many people change their minds when it comes to disabled adoptees
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  2747. The Barnetts adopted her in 2010. Of course she looks older now. She went from baby face and baby teeth to older teen with adult teeth.
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  2748. They got a great thing called Google. Yea, you can type in the name of the movie and see it’s inspired by Barbora Skrlova, not this girl. Or just go thru life making assumptions.
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  2749. It’s an autosomal recessive genetic disorder. Present in the population for centuries. Not associated with radiation. But I am wondering if Barnetts ingested lead paint chips as children
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  2750. Seeing as how she was 4 yrs old when the Ciccones adopted her in Ukraine from the orphanage, I doubt she even knew what America was. Are Barnetts accusing Ciccones too?
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  2751. Lol. Yup. The petrifying finger painting, thumbtack wielding, lemon pledge spraying maniac. Better hide your wives, hide your kids, hide your husbands too. Barnetts are so pathetic
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  2752. She was born in 2003
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  2753. She knows her correct age now because her birth mother has been found
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  2754.  @flowersarecalling  Yes, no doubt she was a child (she just turned 18 now). I read all the available documents. All the x rays, medical & dental, proved it. Even her birth mother was located who confirmed her age, and the birth mother isn’t old enough to have a 32yr old child. The Barnetts are only getting away with it because of the Statute of Limitations and the State dropping the ball for so long.
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  2755.  James Omar  Wow. Why am I still surprised at the level of ignorance here? This reminds me of how anti-vaxxers and flat earthers talk.
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  2756. There wasn’t 30 homes. She went from Ciccones to Barnetts. There wasn’t 3 court cases determining she was an adult either.
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  2757. Also overly dramatic because a farmer’s fence can’t kill you. Calling it a murder attempt is a lie.
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  2758. The nurses were fraudulent. Cause all the pictures show no breasts. Obviously they never saw her. Everyone now loves her
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  2759.  @gkespinoza777  Responding to your anemic insult didn’t require much effort
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  2760.  @gkespinoza777  You put a lot of effort into that comment. Impressive
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  2761.  @sdseals2076  Oh look, the Barnetts public relations spokeswoman has singled you out for attention. That’s a badge of honor! They’re still trying so hard to sell their lies about Natalia
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  2762. With a 41 yr old birth mother?? Lol nope
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  2763. You realize that’s just a movie, right? It’s not a true story. But it sure looks like they watched it, alright. Their accusations match almost scene for scene. A Hollywood movie defense
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  2764. And that’s why he’s “Dr Phil” and you’re not, because he looked at the evidence and at her and it’s plainly evident she’s not an adult
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  2765.  @en6278  Dr P misspoke. Watch the show. He asked her & she said Kristine told her that. Kristine lied to her. They adopted her from the couple who had actually traveled to Ukraine & adopted her from the orphanage. She was in those parent’s custody until they transferred custody to the Barnetts & Barnetts adopted her. That 1st couple had let her spend weekends w potential adopters, looking for a new fam for her, until finally allowing Barnetts to adopt her
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  2766. Yea, look at Barnetts history. No other adopted kids. Father estranged since 2014, says the mom abused him & would beat Natalia. Mom said dad has mental issues, threatened the boys. They adopted her from the 1st adoptive parents. She wasn’t w 30 families, that BS
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  2767. Her documents were vetted & deemed legit by US immigration before they gave her permission to enter US with new parents. Also legit enough she was given US citizenship.
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  2768. You should know they are not charged for the time period she was in supervised apt & had home care aid. Charges start when they totally abandoned her in LaFayette & moved to Canada
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  2769.  @camiosis9024  Give it up Sis. Everyone with an IQ in the triple digits knows she was born 2003, not 1989 especially since her DNA confirmed birth mom was born in 1980. Barnetts suck
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  2770.  @uraraka649  Common sense would say there’s no way a 19yr old sat in a kindergarten class for A YEAR and no teacher noticed. Ditto for 1st grade. NO ONE questioned her age. JUST the Criminal Defendants
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  2771.  @NobleNikki  There’s nothing “off” about the “new” parents. They’re not new, either, they rescued her in 2013. Unlike the Barnetts, these folks really love their kids whether adopted or biological
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  2772.  @MissSicBitch  Natalia wasn’t in 30 homes. That is a proven fact from court documents. Natalia said on Dr Phil that Kristine had told her that she was with 30 families. So Kristine was lying to her back then, to make her feel bad or to discredit her. One thing is clear, the Barnetts do NOT assert in any court filings that she was with 30 families. The “Dr McLaren letter” that Kristine leaked said she was with “at least 2 families” before Barnetts. That’s referring to Ciccones & DePauls. No other family has been mentioned by name or has come forward, only DePauls who say she was unequivocally a child. Barnetts money motive— Kristine had a book coming out about what stellar parents they were. IF the public knew they discarded a child they adopted, No One would’ve bought their book. So they turned her into a psycho adult so they didn’t look like the degenerates they are. They abandoned a child they passed off as an adult to save their reputation and make money. That’s about as sick as it comes.
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  2773.  @zutsonyiuwetsah3603  DePauls explained. It wasn’t their choice. The parents (1st family=Ciccones) would not let them. Instead, 4 months later they let the Barnetts adopt her.
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  2774.  Bloodied Beserker  You’re mighty spicy for someone completely wrong. Cause there’s pictures of her with baby teeth. You can see the adult one half way grown in, in one of the DePauls pictures. You can compare the Barnetts photo of her in the striped shirt to a picture that the Mans took and determine those are baby teeth in the Barnetts photos. And you could read the amended probable cause affidavit which details 2 different dental exams which concluded she was 9 at oldest in 2011/12. You don’t really know the facts in this case if you think DePauls were foster parents. They weren’t. The first adoptive parents let her spend weekends there, to get to know each other. But they jerked DePauls around for months and DePauls ran out of money to keep paying all the lawyers for an adoption that seemed would never happen.
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  2775. @camiosis The Tippecanoe county prosecutor doesn’t need to go to Marion co, fool. You clearly don’t understand how ANY of this works. She’s appealing the order of the Tippecanoe county judge. And when the Appellate Court takes a look, it’s gonna be all over for Barnutts. They’re not going to give that bogus 2012 age change a stamp of approval. Cause it’s fraudulent. They have unassailable proof of her actual age, PLUS The fact that Marion Co NEVER had the authority to change her age. Sucks to be Barnutts. Their scheme has fallen apart.
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  2776. @camiosis Oh but I notice you’re actually admitting today that it’s TWO FELONY COUNTS that were not dismissed. Memba yesterday when your dum azz insisted only 1 remained? Lol. Oh and you insisted that Mikeys age related charges were dismissed WHEN THEY WERE NOT? Not surprising after that time you claimed to be holding the Dr McLaren letter and reading from it and you flat out lied and denied that it said what I’d already told you it said? Between your immorality (lying) and your ignorance your quite a piece of work.
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  2777. camiosis No moron. When you clearly don’t understand sht about how appeals work and you acted like it’s dismissed and they’d have to refile the case or return to Marion County—That’s the lie. So stop. You sound so stupid it’s pathetic
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  2778. @camiosis Stop lying moron.
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  2779. @camiosis No sir. It does NOT have to go back to Marion co. It’s going RIGHT NOW to the Indiana Court of Appeals. Prosecution is arguing that Marion Co had No authority to change her age in the first place (in 2012). If the prosecution argument Wins at the Appellate Court then the 2012 Age change will be declared VOID. If the age change is declared VOID by the appellate court, then the dismissal WILL BE overturned and this prosecution will continue will all age related charges. The statute of limitations dismissal of 3 charges is a separate issue that is also being Appealed. It is Game Over for those degenerate so called parents. No way will the appellate court let their fraudulent age change bullS continue. They are done. Mark my words.
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  2780. @camiosis #ReadItAndWeep https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  2781. @camiosis ALL 8 felonies still active against Michael. Judge heard his motion and declined to issue a ruling. Took it under advisement. Looks like LucyKristine pulled the football away from Michael Charlie Brown again! Lol Serves him right.
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  2782. @camiosis HaHahaha I’ve been since last Fri for you to notice. And you still manage to not get it right!!! Lol There are 2 felony charges Not dismissed. But yes, the ones based on age have been dismissed, for now. Not because this judge looked at the evidence and agreed she was older, but because it had been ruled on without her present in 2012. At least it took them a year to do it. Cause it cost those degenerates a sht Ton of money and they will still end up convicted felons when this is all over. PS That was just Kristine. Michael’s hearing on MTD is today.
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  2783. @camiosis #StillWrong Just refer to my previous comments.
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  2784. @Donnalee Clubb Michael explained why he divorced Kristine. On faceB he posted that Kristine was “evil”, “abusive” & “controlling”. Said his 2 therapists confirmed it. Said he was in Therapy for FOUR YEARS because of Kristine, not Natalia, he never blamed Natalia. So there that.
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  2785. @camiosis You are mistaken about the knives. Kristine didn’t say on top of the refrigerator in her interview. BUT she did say that to Michael and would accuse Natalia back when she “mysteriously” would “find” knives she likely had hidden herself in order to frame Natalia to Michael and turn him against Natalia. Maybe that’s why Michael confessed to police and called Kristine evil on faceB.
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  2786. @camiosis So funny you keep responding to me despite your declaration months ago that you had stopped responding to me. Lol. And all those times you said Bye, as if you were leaving these video comments. Lol. You keep forgetting that Kristine leaked the EX PARTE motion they filed to change Natalia’s birth year. They never made a single accusation against the agency OR the Ciccones who hired the agency to find Natalia new parents. So you are #LYING when you claim the Barnutts alleged misrepresentation. They did NOT. And no matter how many time you lie about that, you cannot change the hard evidence. The only ruling they received was to amend her birth certificate. That’s it. They never #SUED the agency. They never #SUED the Ciccones. After all, it was the Ciccones who provided her Ukrainian birth certificate. It was the Ciccones who told the agency Natalia was 6 years old. I believe they provided Correct information and documentation. But if the Barnutts think otherwise then #WhyDidn’tTheySue ?? Lol. The agency is not a chain. It is still open and operating at the very same location that it was when Barnutts went there and met Natalia and met the Ciccones and accepted custody of Natalia. So they know where to find them. Lol
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  2787. @camiosis The agency is not closed down. So why didn’t they sue the agency?
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  2788. @camiosis What in the world are you blathering on about? There wasn’t a 24hr adoption. Barnetts picked her up in May, then after the legally required 6 months period they finalized their adoption in the Hamilton County Court. They had a home study. It’s required by Indiana law. What are you talking about “IF” she’s still their daughter? Hilarious
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  2789. @camiosis DePauls did NOT say they got her through foster care. DePauls said she was with her first family, the Ciccones. DePauls contacted Ciccones through Little People of America
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  2790. @camiosis Michael said “If you don’t adopt her within 24hrs we’re sending her directly to foster care”. At the 2min13sec mark of this interview https://youtu.be/nC3DIkP7F74
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  2791. @camiosis Kristine’s pre trial conference was scheduled for Dec 18 all the way back on May 13. Lol. But you lie and act like that was in response to Kristine’s desperate flurry of motions
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  2792. @Anvil Designs Michael trial is scheduled to start Sept 18. Kristine’s is scheduled for Jan 25. They are each charged w/8 felony counts. One is a level 3 which has a max penalty of 20yrs
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  2793. @camiosis Michael said if they didn’t agree to adopt her within the 24 hrs the agency gave them to think about it, then she would have to go INTO foster care. He made it sound like they were so wonderful to save this child from foster care. So, no, according to Michael she wasn’t already in foster care. Further, Kristy and Mike both said the Ciccones brought Natalia to the agency and were in the room next to the then. Mike said Natalia was given up only FIVE MINUTES before they arrived. So YOU clearly are reaching erroneous conclusions as usual. What we do know for a fact from the DePauls, is that the Ciccones were allowing Natalia to spent time with them. They weren’t her foster parents. So those are the known facts. Natalia was NOT in foster care. She was in the custody of her parents the Ciccones until they allowed Barnetts to assume custody and adopt her. And the Ciccones were having her spend overnights visiting with potential adopters which is clearly what Natalia remember too. Natalia never called anyone a foster parent.
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  2794. AlwaysTalking hosted by Cece Ceestyle blogger There is a family that has come forward-The DePauls. Guess what? They say she is absolutely a child and Barnetts are Liars. So there ya go
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  2795. That’s a big lie. That’s what Kristine said, but it’s not true. The documents Kristine leaked actually prove that the “30” families claim is false.
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  2796.  @huh5007 Exactly! And the ones who wanted her- the DePauls- are with her now. She’s sharing an apt with their now-adult daughter, living her best life. The Mans weren’t happy about her moving to NY but they have since mended fences
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  2797. You missed part of the story. When they kicked her out & into an apartment it was Aug 2012. She was born Sept 2003, making her 8 THEN. Dr Phil filmed Oct 2019, she just turned 16
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  2798. @Ryan Hieber Wow. You don’t even know the Names of the parents who got arrested and charged in this case (FYI Kristine Barnett and Michael Barnett)
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  2799. @Ryan Hieber Get real. Kristine is a professional liar. She wrote an entire book of lies. Claimed her son had “severe autism” until she cured him by finding his “Spark”. People ate that shz up too
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  2800. Funny with as much as that clown ran his mouth he never named the agency. Isn’t that odd? He’s afraid of accusing someone who can actually defend themselves and would sue them and win.
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  2801. @Brady Kirk The Barnetts claims at first glance sound possible but not probable. But upon examination they completely fall apart. Completely. Without ever looking at a photo, the claims cannot work. Then looking at the photos, there is no way she was an adult. She’s changed so dramatically in the last 10+ yrs. Adults don’t change that much. What you look like at 10yrs vs 20yrs is dramatic, going from 20yrs to 30yrs is not much different. There is no way she was an adult.
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  2802. And when you dump your adopted Child that’s Felony Neglect, which is exactly what they did
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  2803. Ashleigh Armstrong Check out the photos of her before the Barnetts adopted her https://justicefornataliagrace.blogspot.com/2019/10/natalia-grace-barnett-timeline-of-events.html
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  2804. You have no idea what scandals the Barnetts are hiding. They are bad people pretending to be good. She was an innocent child
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  2805. Her birth mother has been confirmed. She was definitely born 2003, as Barnetts knew already. Her birth father is deceased.
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  2806. @Noko Nice The Mans? The ones on Dr Phil? Ya, that’s some Joe Rogan fantasy right there.
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  2807. Baloney. The Barnetts are liars
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  2808. The Barnetts claimed, & she was told, a dr said testing est her as 14 at age 8. That was not true. Court documents recount all testing. No test said 14, they were all at her age or within 1-3yrs. Multiple x rays, skeletal & dental. Now even birth mom confirmed via DNA
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  2809. You have a lot of misinformation in your comment. After the Barnetts picked her up in FL in May 2010, they waited the req statutory 6 months then went before Indiana court & finalized it
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  2810. Sorry Elizabeth, but it is YOU who has fallen for the lies of the criminal defendants. I know it’s shocking that someone under indictment would lie, but that’s what they’re doing.
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  2811. People adopt out of state all the time. Then after bringing the child home, they wait the mandatory 6 months, then go in front of a judge in their own state, & finalize it. Just Like Barnetts Did
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  2812.  @katiagaroia4274 The Barnetts are the ones with serious issues and they belong in prison
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  2813.  @camiosis  It has been proven. This was revealed in open court 2 yrs ago. It was court ordered testing.
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  2814. Legal age is what’s on your birth certificate. Chronological or Actual age is based on the actual day you were born, which in this girl’s case is 2003
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  2815.  @joseortega-us6rn  I sure hope so. But if not, I hope the notoriety brings her a great lawyer and she files a civil suit.
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  2816.  @emmas1082  X rays don’t lie,Emma. Her medical & dental x rays proved she was the age her orig BC said. Even her birth mom confirmed. Trials sched Sept 12 & Oct 24
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  2817. It’s amazing the purposeful misinformation coming from Barnett supporters. Claiming the 1st family had a toddler? Lol not according to their social media
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  2818. No she can’t speak Ukrainian. She never spoke Ukrainian. She spoke Russian when she came here with her 1st adopters in 2008. Their doctor even noted in her file he used a Russian translator
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  2819. She definitely IS from Ukraine. The first family (Cicciones) traveled there & adopted her in Ukrainian Court. This whole thing was started by Barnetts to distract from the crimes they’re accused of
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  2820. @David Marcucci Jr. No, that’s a lie.
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  2821. I thought you were talking about Barnetts. You should check out the reviews of Kristine’s book The Spark on Goodreads. 5&6 years ago people were saying she seemed to be lying , and the book had nothing to do with Natalia. In fact, it didn’t even mention her. They erased her.
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  2822. Of course Ukraine knows she was adopted from one of their institutions. The first adoption was done and finalized in Ukraine before Ukraine permitted the new parents (Ciccones) to take her back to the US. Her adoption & documents were vetted by US Immigration before she was permitted to enter the US with her new parents. She was in these parents custody until they permitted the Barnetts to adopt her from them. All this intrigue is nothing more than the desperate rantings of a couple of people charged with 8 felony counts and facing potentially 20 years incarceration
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  2823. She wasn’t lying. They found her birth mom and the original hospital birth records. Her original birth certificate was correct all along. This girl’s been terribly victimized by the parents
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  2824. That is one of the common physical signs of her form of dwarfism (Diastrophic Dysplasia)
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  2825. @Robert Gass Thats not true. The prosecution has her actual records from before BarNutts dumped her. Records they concealed. Family friend doctor was duped by Barnetts
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  2826. @Hubert Finley Sounds like a crafty lie. After all, you can’t prove it w/photos. But we do see a completely undeveloped chest. No chest whatsoever. But they claim the non visible development? Naw. No way
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  2827. @Hubert Finley My bone density said I was 65, but they keep denying me my social security!
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  2828. @Jimmy De'Souza Trying to rake in money since 2012?? Is that what Barnetts are saying?? Lol
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  2829. Jimmy De'Souza Here’s the news report of the dental records https://www.jconline.com/story/news/2019/12/27/separate-trials-set-michael-and-kristine-barnett-who-face-new-charges-abandoning-daughter-lafayette/2748902001/
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  2830. GraceFan94 Funny he didn’t mention that he CONFESSED to the crime https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2831. You can’t stick a kid in an apartment and skeedaddle to Canada. Hell, you can’t leave a 9 yr old alone for a weekend even.
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  2832. “Parents abandons” is the truthful headline
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  2833.  James Omar  Yeah, a heads up is in order
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  2834.  James Omar  I looked at some old threads and see Jaded commenting on Natalia’s side a couple months ago. So seems legit. As for punk boy’s channel, don’t you think it’s a good thing to have Natalia’s side represented since we’re blocked? I’m glad she’s spreading some truth over there. You know who will be attacking soon lol
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  2835.  @sadliaq1590  James is one of the good guys. He’s been defending Natalia for over a year now. I think he misunderstood your comment.
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  2836. He did say that about “30 families”. But he is wrong. The Barnetts own legal filings prove she was in the custody of her first adoptive parents until they allowed the Barnetts to adopt her
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  2837. Kim Lowe That’s not what the doctors and dentists say
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  2838. There was a 6month waiting period before they finalized the adopt & it became legally binding. They could have backed out easily before that. So why they lying & acting like they were rushed?
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  2839. Kinda like the Stauffers, right. Are you familiar with with Myka Stauffer & James Stauffer? Adopted an autistic kid from China, 2 yrs later it’s Bye Bye Bye
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  2840. @Lily W. The parties in this case are under a gag order. That why no one revealed the results of the DNA test. They would have been held in contempt of court. It got reported now because it was spoken of in open court and journalists/reporters are NOT gagged. In addition to the DNA results, it was also said bio mom had birth records showing she gave birth to a baby with dwarfism and had the papers showing she relinquished her to the orphanage right after birth. This is addition to her name being on the original birth certificate which is how she was located. As for her birth certificate, you would have to know she had one. She couldn’t have been issued a passport or visa to enter the US without one. The private adoption agency was hired by the original adopters, the Ciccones. The people who adopted her in Ukraine. The Ciccones provided the agency all the documentation which was passed along to Barnetts. Dad Ciccone is an architect, mom Ciccone is a Harvard grad who works at a university. These people aren’t faking any birth certificates. They brought her to the Barnetts, meeting at the agency. The agency never had custody of her. She was in Ciccone custody until custody was transferred to Barnetts. Barnetts then had to wait 6 months, after which they finalized the adoption in their home county court, Hamilton Co Indiana. What do you find sketchy about any of this?
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  2841. @Lily W. The DNA results were just reported on 8-27. By investigative reporter Ron Wilkins for the Journal & Courier. As for her original Ukrainian birth certificate, you can’t be serious? Are you claiming there wasn’t one? Why would you think that?
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  2842. @dayrenist She was BORN Sept 2003. So she would have been 8 in 2011 and 9 in 2012. Would you look at that? The math works. The dentists nailed it.
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  2843. @dayrenist Journal and Courier reported Dec 27 the results of 2 dental evaluations that Barnetts concealed. In 2011 the dentist estimated her age as between 8&9. In 2012 the dentist estimated her age as btwn 6&9. These facts were listed in an updated probable cause affidavit which Journal and Courier witnessed and reported on. It’s over. All that’s left is the legal wrangling. Dr McLaren writing “adult dentition” wasn’t any more accurate than him diagnosing her with the WRONG subtype of dwarfism. Natalia has Diastrophic Dysplasia not SED. Time to accept reality.
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  2844. @dayrenist It’s over. Accept reality. All that’s left is righting the legal stuff. But it’s a proven fact. Born Sept 2003. https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  2845. @dayrenist You said, and I quote, “premolars”. Where? Where did it say that?? Still waiting
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  2846. @dayrenist Where did you read “premolars”? Cause it sure as heck wasn’t in the Dr McLaren letter. I’ll wait...
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  2847. @dayrenist Central incisors are the first shed and first perm teeth. That aside, the bio Mom’s just been confirmed. She really was born in 2003
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  2848. @Lily W. It’s just been confirmed that the putative bio mom IS her bio mom, with DNA testing. Her hospital records prove it was Natalia she gave birth to in Sept 2003. Proves she was 6 when Barnetts got her
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  2849. @kay d The dentistry proved she was a kid. As in the ACTUAL records. Not the lies Barnetts tell about them.
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  2850. @Firefly79 It’s in her medical records from when she was with the first adopters (Ciccones) that her doctors had to call in a translator because she didn’t speak English. That’s solid proof
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  2851. @dayrenist Journal & Courier reported on dental records back in Dec. In 2011 a dentist estimated her age as btwn 8-9. In 2012 a dentist est btwn 6-9.
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  2852. James Omar Yea Cami’s just banking in other people’s ignorance. People who don’t know she entered the US in July 2008. Didn’t meet DePauls til Sept 2009. Lie after lie with that clown
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  2853. @camiosis Your lies sure are slick. Nicole DePaul did not meet Natalia until 14 months after Natalia arrived. Nicole said Natalia’s English was good but NOT perfect. Nicole showed medical records from Natalia first US dr visits And she couldn’t speak English. Proven facts, unlike the fiction you’ve peddling
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  2854. @camiosis Lol The FICTIONAL adoption program has FICTIONAL protocols?? Woo doggy! This is quite the complex delusion.
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  2855. @camiosis Sure she could have retrieved her dental records IF SHE KNEW WHO THE PROVIDERS WERE. Barnetts had to be court ordered to spill the beans. They are so done✅
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  2856. @camiosis It’s in her legal medical records that when she first came here she could not speak English.
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  2857. The saddest thing is that it took so long to nail these cretins. Meanwhile the kid didn’t get the surgeries she needed or the education she has the right to
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  2858.  @wolfwebster9228  So they lied about her being a secret adult con artist, but they’re telling the truth about her trying to murder them? Mkay
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  2859.  @autumn1768  My Aunt & Uncle were foster parents. Over the 35yr course of their fostering they cared for over 63 children. I spent time with many of them as a cousin. My own experience & talking in the family, NOT ONE would be described as evil or even bad. The only talk of evil in my family was what happened to those poor kids that led to their being in foster care.
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  2860. For a better understanding of Jake you should read all the Wikipedia back and forth about deleting his page. Very very illuminating
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  2861. She definitely is 16 on Dr Phil. She had a birth certificate, just like every other person. She also had medical and dental evaluations which aligned with said birth certificate.
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  2862. The birth mother HAS been found, and not by Barnetts who opposed DNA testing to confirm. Well they did the Maternity DNA testing anyway and she IS the mother. She said Natalia was born 2003
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  2863.  @MissGrai  She wasn’t same age. That part was a lie. The girl herself when interviewed said she was 14. That was Feb 2021 per that lawyer Karas. Means kid was 3 at the 2010 playdate, not 6
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  2864. Abuse then accuse, it’s classic.
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  2865. What check are they getting?
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  2866.  @tundravarg3525 No she wasn’t
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  2867. You’re unaware of the real doctors, real medical doctors specializing in orthopedic surgery and endocrinology who determined she was a child. Real dentists, too. This girl told the truth.
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  2868.  @miken8778  Happy New Year to you too. Rogan ought to be ashamed of himself. It’s true the court did change her age at the Barnetts behest back in 2012. But what a travesty that was! It’s since been revealed that the judge didn’t even hold an evidentiary hearing. Took no testimony. Heard from no experts. Didn’t inquire with any other govt agency. Didn’t appoint the child a GAL, which is standard when the petitioners are the parents. The judge didn’t even see the child in question. Just blindly signed the motion 11 days after they filed it. Can you imagine? Turned this kid from 8 to 22 instantly without even meeting the kid. If I hadn’t read the documents surrounding this case I wouldn’t have believed it possible. Then her current family tried to get her true age restored 5 yrs later, but their pro bono attorney was unsuccessful. Likely because they lacked her old records and the current doctor could only say she was 13 or 14 but couldn’t say Exactly how old. Should have been enough to simply throw out the age modification (saying she was 28 at the time) but it wasn’t. Now, this new judge is saying he must accept the 2012 age change order and that the state cannot present new evidence to essentially re-litigate her age. Because the state now has ALL her records AND located her birth mother who has original documentation proving she really was born 2003. Judge says too late, res Judicata and collateral estoppel prevents him from hearing the new evidence. But all is not lost for this girl just yet. The prosecution is appealing that decision and the Court of Appeals agreed to hear the dispute. The criminal trials are put on hold until the COA makes the decision. It’s a crazy crazy case. This girl is absolutely a teen today.
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  2869. If even HALF of what they’re claiming is true, they absolutely would have set of cameras. But they didn’t set up cameras. Because what they’re saying is lies
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  2870. Her lack of an accent is evidence she left Ukraine as a young child, rather than as an adult like the Barnetts claim. An adult would likely still have an accent
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  2871. PRHousequake No accent= adopted very young.
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  2872.  @camiosis9024  You’re delusional. The Court of Appeals has NOT rendered a decision yet
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  2873. Yea cause little Mikey Barnett would have never made it past age 7.
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  2874. THEY DID. That’s why Barnetts are charged with crimes and not her
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  2875. Sorry about your family. He exploited her too. There is irrefutable evidence that proves she’s a minor born in 2003. But he didn’t present that. He made her birthdate seem debatable
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  2876. The Barnetts motto: Abuse then accuse
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  2877. (1) Adopt her because she’s a really special girl (2) No charges because there is no credible evidence she committed a crime
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  2878. You think it’s ok to leave a kid in an apartment and move out of the country?
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  2879. She didn’t look away. You must really want to believe the Barnetts preposterous story. You see things that aren’t even there, just to malign a child victim.
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  2880. Well she’s 16 here. They had adopted her in 2010. Check out Ready To Glare’s video. She got exclusive docs from a prior family that tried to adopt her who say she was no doubt a child
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  2881. Exactly. She came here in 2008. Her birth certificate, VISA and passport said she was 4 yrs old. Her English confirms this
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  2882. @DASLIME UNO She was 1st adopted by a family on the East Coast. They are the ones who arranged the international adoption. They traveled to Ukraine, adopted her there, and brought her back home to the US in July 2008 when Natalia was 4 yrs old. They basically were unprepared for her extensive physical needs and decided to nullify their adoption by having her re-adopted by someone else. They employed an adoption agency to find her a new family. That agency found Barnetts or Barnetts found them. Who knows what the truth is there? But however that came to pass, Barnett agreed to adopt her and traveled to FL where the first adoptive family brought her to the agency. That was beginning of May 2010. Then after the required 6 months wait the Barnetts finalized the adoption in court in Indiana in Nov 2010.
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  2883. Cause Barnetts adopted her in 2010, and it’s 2020 now.
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  2884. Shows what you know. Cause her birth mother has been located. Confirmed by DNA. She really was born 2003. So you’re denigrating a disabled teen. Like she ain’t been thru enough
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  2885. @camiosis You LIAR. You must be a sociopath to keep making up lies. Get help. You obviously need it desperately
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  2886. Breeze H But they ditched her back in 2013 when she was 9. A 9 yr old kid with significant physical disabilities. That’s reprehensible.
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  2887. So get him his own apartment and move to Canada like Barnetts did.
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  2888.  @SooSmokie  The channel won’t let me post a link. The info was published Sept 4, 2020 in the Journal and Courier. Google Barnetts legal victories short lived. Additionally, you can read the dismissal and the appeal brief (And more) on the court website. Google Indiana court records to find the court’s website
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  2889.  @SooSmokie  The charges (age related only) have not been dismissed. The judge put the order on hold without effectuating it, and certified the order for appeal. The court of Appeals granted the appeal and has assumed jurisdiction. If they affirm the order, then yes, the age related charges will be dismissed but they will still stand trial for 2 felony neglect charges related to her dependency due to disability. The important take away is the reason the judge thinks he must dismiss the charges based upon her age. It’s not because he considered any New evidence (that unequivocally proves she was in fact born 2003). It’s because of legal technicalities of Res Judicata and Collateral Estoppel. The state is confident they can overcome those reasons. Read the documents on the court website. They may have committed the perfect crime. They may escape criminal liability. But they won’t escape a subsequent civil action. Her birth mother has been located. She’s 41. She was married but separated when she gave birth to Natalia, her second child! She has her hospital delivery records, her ultrasound, the papers she signed putting her in the orphanage. On top of all the medical & dental evidence, the birth mom ends the controversy. Now it’s just a matter of will the state be able to criminally sanction the Barnetts or not
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  2890.  @kevinarcher7889  Actually they do not have other adopted children. They have 3 biological son, currently ranging in age from 22 to 17. I strongly disagree with your description of them as “loving parents”. Their behavior towards N is nothing short of callous and cruel. Even their parenting of their sons is highly problematic, if you look into it. She does come across as mature for her age. The treatment she endured in the past no doubt contributes to this. Plus the fact that the age change denied her the normal socialization most of us get attending school with our age-mates. Being transformed from 8 yrs old to 22 yrs old with the stroke of a pen meant that regular schooling was no longer an option (the age limit for “normal” public education in Indiana is 22). She is without a doubt only 17 today. In addition to the Drs & dentists who previously concluded such, her birth mother was located and her documents reveal the 2003 birth year was accurate.
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  2891. Kinda more strange that you think it’s strange. I mean, she left Ukraine at age 4 and has lived exclusively with English only Americans since. Should she retain her native language forever? Lol
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  2892. They had her tested plenty. All the doctors and dentists told them she was a child. Now even her birth mother is located. She was definitely a child.
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  2893. The DePauls have come forward....to defend her and say Barnetts are lying
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  2894. @James Omar BRAVO 👏
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  2895.  @camiosis9024  Posture for YouTube all you want. I know that you know Natalia is now an 18 year old.
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  2896.  @camiosis9024  Lol 2 days ago you were declaring that the appeal was already decided and claiming the State lost. That’s what happens when you lie. You can’t keep your story straight lol
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  2897. You know the Barnetts are guilty when their supporter fabricates quotes from Judge Meyer. 🤥
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  2898.  @camiosis9024  You’re one of those people you mention who are lying about Natalia. Lol.
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  2899.  @MarieAnne.  Adopted at age 6. In this video she’s 16. Her birth mom is now 41, born 1980. You think she gave birth to her second child at 9 ?
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  2900.  @j.c7719  Those pictures were from Sept 2009-Dec 2009. While DePauls were getting to know her, trying to adopt her from the Ciccones. They weren’t fostering. Here’s their video https://youtu.be/D9dH4_JWeRc
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  2901. When your alibi resembles a horror movie, exactly, you’re lying.
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  2902. So who needs x rays or objective evidence? Anything is possible when the only bounds are your imagination
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  2903. Whanos is my dad Apparently you missed Kristine and Michael’s lying faces. It’s not easy to catch a felony charge. Barnetts caught 6.
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  2904.  @ChrisAnderson1986 The parents are NOT good human beings
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  2905. Oh the sweet irony in your comment
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  2906. Have you seen Ready to Glare’s exclusive w/family who tried to adopt her only 4 months before the Barnetts? Looks 6 to me https://youtu.be/vBSl9jS4oFI
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  2907. @latrell Jaimison Absolutely. She, of course, is 16.
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  2908. You know how your children were taken away without you getting due process? A basically secret hearing conducted behind your back because you were in jail? That’s basically what happened to Natalia. The Barnetts had her locked up in the psych ward while they had a secret Ex Parte hearing, that turned her from a 8 yr old little girl into a 22 yr old adult, and she wasn’t even there!! She had no lawyer, no GAL, no CASA, No One on her side. No one. They effectively stole her childhood. She couldn’t even go to school anymore because in Indiana the cut off age is 22. So no junior high or high school for her. All the friends and memories and opportunities that she was entitled to, were denied her because of 2 evil selfish people. No clubs, no earning scholarships, no taking SAT, literally her entire Future stolen from her. Now they’re trying to assassinate HER character. Those scumbags. SHE is the victim here. Not those fake parents the Barnetts.
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  2909. @James Omar They did confirm it via DNA and records that prove she gave birth to her Sept 2003. Lol Barnutts victory was short lived. This still needs to prevail on appeal, and it will
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  2910. @James Omar HUGE NEWS https://www.jconline.com/story/news/crime/2020/08/27/prosecutors-prepared-call-natalia-barnetts-birth-mother-prove-ukrainian-orphans-age-neglect-case/3412866001/
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  2911. @James Omar There is no oasis from naive/stupid/gullible/evil people anywhere in the world.
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  2912. @James Omar There’s simple minded, and then there’s the nutty ones who actually make sht up or the mean girls who post super nasty comments about Natalia. It’s disheartening to say the least
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  2913. @habibti1101 There’s the police affidavit that recounts 2 doctors evals from 2010&12, saying 8&11; 2 dental visits reported by Journal & Courier jconline from 2011&2012 saying first btwn 8&9, next exam btwn 6&9; The photos from DePauls from 2009 w/missing 2 front teeth in the Ready To Glare exclusive (link below) which includes a school eval from age 5y9m and she tested exactly how a kid would test that I don’t think an adult could fake; You can see more info on the blog too; RTG https://youtu.be/vBSl9jS4oFI
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  2914. @habibti1101 Barnetts clearly borrowed the plot of Orphan for their alibi. Natalia was a child and is now a teen.
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  2915. @The Joker She was 8 for a month, then turned 9. Barnetts were bringing her food and she had a home care aid. Why couldn’t a kid survive with a roof over their head?
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  2916. The adoption literature is clear that very young children internationally adopted into English speaking homes will lose their first lang within 6 months. The lack of accent supports she was a child
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  2917. Dental records DID tell. That’s why the Barnetts got arrested.
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  2918.  @r.rodriguez4991  Yes, some of the posts I read were for that reason. There were also some where the child was found on the streets so the orphanage had to “guess” in order to make a birth certificate. After adoption, getting excellent medical care and good nutrition, the kids have a growth spurt which makes the parents think a legitimate error was made so they pursue an age adjustment with good intentions. But we’re talking 2-3 years Max. The most high profile case of this is Soon Yi Previn-Allen, Woody Allen’s wife. When Mia Farrow adopted her there was an uncertainty of 2 yrs, so Mia & Andre Previn actually chose Soon Yi’s birth date. The confidentiality of adoption records prevents govt oversight. No one really knows how often this happens. This is an area that legislators really need to write some laws over. Starting with a GAL to represent the child, mandatory evidentiary hearing and an independent medical examiner with a cap on the maximum number of years that can be adjusted. Aside from Natalia, there’s a risk of trafficking when a child can be turned into a legal adult then. (Edit When your child has an IEP at school, the state provides many many services beyond just teachers. So it’s not just a extra year of school, in an extra year of services like occupational therapy, speech therapy etc etc)
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  2919.  @r.rodriguez4991  I was shocked to learn this too. Shocked that adoptive parents could change a child’s age at all, let alone by 14 years and the judge didn’t even lay eyes on this kid first. But if you look on adoption forums, it’s not uncommon to change an age. Usually the intentions are good. Parents trying to secure a extra year or two of schooling for a child who’s developmentally behind and gets free services through their school IEP.
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  2920.  @r.rodriguez4991  Yes I believe it. You can see that from the photos the little people family, the DePauls, showed with her 2 front baby teeth missing and adult ones growing in. Then, Her medical and dental x rays w/accompanying age estimates. Listed in the probable cause affidavit. Finally her Ukrainian birth mother who has her original hospital birth records & orphanage records. Mom confirmed by DNA. She was born Sept 2003. Turned 18 last September, but still 32 on paper. A major injustice
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  2921.  @r.rodriguez4991  There was no other party. This was just parents of a child wanting to amend their foreign born child’s birth certificate. That’s why it succeeded. It was filed using an adoption cause number, even though it wasn’t an adoption, making the order confidential like all adoption records are. They adopted her in their home country, Hamilton Co. The age change they filed in Marion Co. The judge didn’t hold an evidentiary hearing. Didn’t take testimony from anyone, not even Barnetts. They used adoption attorney, Michele Jackson, and she filed it. They didn’t have to even go to court. What I’m telling you is undisputed. Both sides agree this was the circumstances of how the age change originated.
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  2922. Got her age changed without stepping foot in court. No hearing. No testimony. No medical/dental records. Done on an ex parte motion without notice to anyone. It actually WAS that easy
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  2923. The science guys decided she was a child. That’s why Barnetts got charged with 8 felony counts.
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  2924. Dismissed half the charges due to the Statute of Limitations
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  2925. If you’re talking about the Mans, the couple who were with her on Dr Phil, then NO That is completely false. The Mans love her and they are her family. Nothing has changed
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  2926. This is one of the dumbest comments I’ve read
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  2927.  @nairobi-farmfairy7612  They did stick to procedures. They picked her in FL at beginning of May 2010 & it wasn’t finalized until Nov 3 2010 in their home county Hamilton, in Indiana. So they could have backed out after they supposedly realized she wasn’t a child when giving her a bath on Day 1. Explain that away! The only explanation that makes sense is that they are lying.
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  2928. Funny how the actress was only 12 tho. Guess they couldn’t find a 33 yr old actress who could realistically play a child
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  2929. @CoV Online Joe didn’t read any court reports, none are available. He repeated the Barnetts claims of what was in the court reports. Yes Michael Barnetts family doctor did write a letter. Sounded like a orderly wrote it. Misdiagnosed her type of dwarfism. Claimed she was diagnosed with diagnoses that don’t exist. Claimed the orthopedist and endocrinologist were unable to assist with determining her age (A total lie. The police affidavit reports that these two specialists estimated her age at 8 in 2010 and 11 in 2012). Dr McLaren didn’t recount any test he personally conducted in that farce of a letter he (purportedly) wrote. Then look at the age revision court case. It resembled being tried in absentia. It was done Ex Parte. There was no opposing side. It wasn’t a trial, it was a hearing. The judge never even laid eyes on Natalia. She had no attorney or GAL for this crucial 1st court hearing. ZERO due process. Are you OK with her going from 8 to 22 instantly with ZERO due process? I thought Joe Rogan was a proponent of due process. As for the hearing in 2016 when the Mans tried to have her age restored, that had no chance. This wasn’t an Higher appellate court. It wasn’t the original judge, who would have been angry that he signed the original order thinking he was helping Natalia, only to discover this was a Barnett scam so they could “legally” abandon their child and their obligations. The Mans were limited in discovery and had a lawyer Volunteering their time. But this is all changed now! The prosecution has her dental records from 2011 & 2012 saying 6-9yrs old. Doctor records from 1st family. And while in Barnetts custody. Another family that’s come forward, the DePauls. Plus now DNA being done on the presumed Bio mom located in Ukraine. You don’t know this case. She was absolutely a child.
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  2930. @CoV Online Dr Joe Rogan? Are the Harvard drs at Boston Children’s Hospital fools? Oh, but the people thinking OrPhaN iS rEaL are the smart ones? Lol
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  2931. She wasn’t on their doorstep. It was a neighbors house. Mrs Mans sister was walking by and called her sister cause there was no way in hell this little girl was an adult. Barnetts are liars
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  2932. Mimi Franklin He only played 6 yrs younger. Barnetts claim Natalia played 14 yrs younger. Naw, That’s too much & not the least bit believable
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  2933. Her birth mother was found. The fake mystery solved. She was born in 2003 like the Barnetts knew all along
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  2934. She actually spoke Russian, not Ukrainian. This is one big red herring promoted by Barnetts. Other than that, international adoption literature advises parents their child will lose their native language rapidly. Young children after about 6 months here will no longer speak or understand their other language. I actually read about this on the Barnett’s adoption attorney’s blog. Their attorney’s blog!!
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  2935.  @smithamy1982  Bone density isn’t for age estimates, but in 2010 hers said 8 when she was 7. By x rays I’m referring to her having open growth plates 2012, 2017
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  2936. She actually didn’t have a lot of families. The bad mom made up the 30 fams to gaslight her. Drs DID determine she was a child; xrays tell the truth
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  2937. Where are those 30 families? Did any of them come forward? Anyone? Anywhere? Hmmm. I saw 1 family, the DePauls. They said she was a sweet little girl & Barnetts are lying
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  2938. Do Action This is copy and paste number 2 for you
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  2939. @James Omar I have the Dr Phil episode recorded. Cami is lying about what she claims Natalia said. It’s perplexing & sickening that someone other than the Barnutts would lie about this.
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  2940. camiosis I have the entire Dr Phil episode recorded. You are lying. Natalia never said that.
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  2941. @Rohan Tandra Here’s some evidence. Michael Barnett confessed. 2 different drs evaluated her as a child https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  2942. @Rohan Tandra “Good hearted people”? That Kristine is a nut job Munchausen mama just like Gypsy Rose’s mother
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  2943. @Eric Dimitri She hasn’t started her period as of Oct 2019.
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  2944. @Jesus loves me It’s the Barnetts who belong in prison. EIGHT felony counts against those lying child abusers
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  2945. Basic truth, I’m surprised you don’t recognize Kristine Barnett. You’ve seen her type your whole life. She’s like Carolyn Bryant. Thankfully, unlike Carolyn’s lies, hers didn’t lead a death
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  2946. Hilarious. You’ve been duped by the real sociopaths and can’t even see it.
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  2947. Philly Love No US immigration official would be fired for doing their job. They have detected plenty of adults trying to pass as teens. But you’re ignoring the most compelling part of this story. Natalia was 4 years old when she came here. You cannot be an adult and pass for 4. Even with dwarfism. There aren’t any adults in kindergarten. And here, there is even more evidence than the obvious. Medical and dental evidence. The estimates of her age placed her squarely as a child. The highest estimate by skeletal survey was 11, in 2012 when her BC said 8. That same year the dentist estimated 6 to 9. Now add to this the fact that Michael confessed that she was a child and they knew it. That’s in the sworn police affidavit.
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  2948. moonclan woman Sounds like YOU believe in myths. Even if I hadn’t researched it, I would know they are lying based on the photos alone. Adults don’t change the way she did. There’s pics of her at age 6 with missing 2 front teeth and completely undeveloped chest. Then there’s now. Barnetts are the ones with a legal team AND a public relations firm (Herd Strategies). And they’ve trashed this girl. It’s wrong.
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  2949. Pimpin Ken No, shes a teen. She was a child when they abandoned her.
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  2950.  @cynd5166  Get real. You honestly believe an adult sauntered by US immigration with a visa & passport saying she was 4 yrs old? Infiltrated a kindergarten & no one was the wiser? Preposterous
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  2951. Criminal defendants LYING is not a new phenomenon. Victim blaming is not a new phenomenon either.
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  2952. I believe her. The Barnetts are liars
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  2953.  @Shard7771  Another make believe movie. Make believe, just like the Barnetts story
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  2954. The dad already admitted she was a child and they knew it.
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  2955. @triodesrbetter A court’s ruling IS the court’s opinion. Sometimes that ruling is an accurate reflection of reality, sometimes it’s not. But one thing is undeniable, no ruling can change reality.
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  2956. @triodesrbetter I saw Barnetts motion they filed to change her age. I have screenshots of it. It wasn’t based upon objective evidence. It wasn’t based upon a skeletal survey or a dental exam. It was purely circumstantial. And I’ve read what was in the probable cause statement, and have screenshots of it, and what was reported on her dental records. And I’ve seen the photos of her from 2009 where she’s missing her front teeth and the other teeth are baby teeth. I’m sure Dr Phil saw those things too. Plus other documents the DePauls had posted. Then there’s simply analyzing what Barnetts said. She’s a kid alright. Now a teen.
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  2957. @triodesrbetter Actually Phil did have evidence to go on. He actually met her and spoke with her. It’s plainly obvious she’s not 30. Frankly, Had the judge making the decision in 2012 met her, I do not think he would have changed her birth certificate, either.
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  2958. triodesrbetter Hey, Gotta say, as much as I thinks it’s outrageous, I just learned the court dismissed the counts based on age due to the prior court ruling. The counts based on physical dependency are still be prosecuted. Unless this latest ruling is overturned, and it could be, but if it’s not they will only face charges for abandoning a dependent who is dependent based upon disability. They may have pulled off the perfect crime. We will see.
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  2959. Tippecanoe county court obviously thinks the same as Phil. They aren’t dismissing the case despite a Marion County court amending her birth certificate.
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  2960. Emily Melis Everyone?? Hardly. The opinions that matter most are the medical drs and dentists who examined her & they determined she was a child (now teen)
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  2961. Clearly she was saying she didn’t remember have a bone scan with the Barnetts, she remembers the scan in MI that the Mans took her to. That one looked at her growth plates and determined that she was still growing. An adult would not still be growing. Based upon the analysis of her growth plates the Dr estimated she was about 14. By age 16 in women the growth plates are usually fully “closed”. This is STRONG evidence that Natalia was NOT yet 16 yrs old.
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  2962. There HAD been something done to assess her age. Medical x rays looking at growth plates & dental x rays looking at dental development. All revealed she was a child far below 18 (in 2012)
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  2963. Lol Suuure she did. I wonder what kinda stories will be told next??
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  2964. Child IS the optimal word and that’s exactly what she was. There is no mistaking the skeletal ex ray of a child. Children have growth plates. She had growth plates. Adults don’t.
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  2965. Naw, just Barnetts. Then Natalia won’t need to test cause Barnetts can’t pass.
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  2966. Phil only does that if there is an actual controversy. There’s no controversy here. All that’s here is abusive adopters trying to stay out of jail and salvage their reputations
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  2967. Because she didn’t do anything wrong and she is a US citizen
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  2968. edibingbing1 It’s actually been an ongoing investigation for over 5 years. It was a tough case but they finally cracked it. Michael admitted it. They’re done.
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  2969.  @EpicFetchQuest  In Kristine’s interview with Daily Mail they brought it up and acted like the fictional movie somehow validated Kristine’s fantastical allegations
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  2970.  @TiffTALKS22  Sounds fascinating Tiff. Why don’t you pull up the probable cause affidavit and confirm for yourself that I’ve spoken the truth.
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  2971.  @TiffTALKS22  Everyone can see your 1st comment is dated 2 months ago and So Is My Response to you😂. You’re the one coming back 2 months later with an unintelligible reply. Bizarre.
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  2972. If you saw the whole episode, she didn’t deny having bone scans with Barnetts, she didn’t remember but remembered the one in Michigan with her [new] family. As for the results of the ones with Barnetts, the Barnetts lied about the results. These tests were listed in the probable cause affidavit. The first in 2010 estimated her age as approximately 8; the second in 2012 estimated approximately 11. So, the Barnetts knew she was a child because the doctors told them. The one in Michigan was in 2017 and said 13-14. All the results align with her original birth year of 2003
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  2973. Little kids lose their Lang rapidly, adults do not. Little kids lose their accent, adults do not. You mention these as if it shows she was an adult, when it’s actually the Opposite, shows she was a child.
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  2974.  James Omar  He made a video about the Joe Rogan episode. I’m not aware of punk boy ever being on Rogan’s show. Not surprising that he watches Rogans show
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  2975.  James Omar  He even has an adopted daughter, yet says on his show “Don’t Adopt”. Didn’t care how that made his own daughter feel. Pretty disgusting
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  2976. Who can believe a thing Joe “No research” Rogan says after how he presented this story? Outrageous how he simply accepted the criminal defendants alibi as fact
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  2977. Lil Naive I see you’re more than a lil naive. Keep believing in movie scripts rather than medical and dental evidence.
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  2978. Borntolovevolcanos You obviously believe a ripped from a movie script defense. You probably believe in the tooth fairy too. Fortunately Tippecanoe county knows better. 8 felony counts.
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  2979. @__________ You’re missing the point. Uouttooo said the Barnetts didn’t change her age, the court did. Which is ridiculous. The judge didn’t snatch this kid up off the street and change her age. The age change happened because of Barnetts. They filed the motion, Ex Parte by the way, with the court. To claim that the Barnetts were not responsible for this debacle is ludicrous. And yea it would be like claiming Michael didn’t divorce Kristine but that the court divorced them. Just like a divorce cannot happen unless someone files a motion with the court, this age change wouldn’t have happened were it not for Barnetts filing the motion with the court. And obviously they did it fraudulently. They concealed evidence from the court that this kid was in fact a kid. They ran the show. Ex parte hearing that this kid didn’t even know about. She wasn’t assigned an attorney or GAL to assert or protect her interests. She wasn’t even at the hearing. Barnetts waltzed in there with their attorney and got the birth certificate of An Actual Child amended from born 2003 to born 1989. It’s outrageous. And it’s outrageous that this judge was snookered. But it just change the fact that Barnetts are responsible for this travesty and for abandoning her.
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  2980. Uouttooo Lol what??
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  2981. Uouttooo Obviously. And The court couldn’t have ordered her age changed unless the Barnetts wanted the court to do it.
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  2982. @456 süd Not why “would” they, why DID they? Why did they think they could treat another human being this way and get away with it? They really thought they had a fool proof plan.
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  2983. Actually it does. Because the paperwork she’s talking about is the findings from an earlier set of ex rays showing she still had growth plates. Adults have growth “lines”
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  2984. From what I’ve read the bone testing was NOT bone density testing. In the police affidavit it said “skeletal survey” & this is X-rays of entire skeleton & looks at the growth plates. The 2012 test said she was about 11.
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  2985. @Alan Dood It’s been over 6 years. Twice as long as Barnetts. Still no regrets. No issues either.
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  2986. Natalia actually doesn’t need to prove anything. The prosecution has ALL the evidence they need to prove that Barnetts did exactly what they are accused of. Bye bye Barnutts!
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  2987. Child abuse and neglect happens to adopted as well as biological children. In this case, it was investigated for 5 yrs. The evidence shows she was a child. Even her birth mom’s been found.
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  2988. Police investigated already, for over 5 yrs. She had umpteen different evaluations previously and always the same results—a minor
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  2989. Says the criminal defendants
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  2990. You could not have seen a video of her at 6 yrs old. No videos of her at that age have been released. If it was presented as being of her at 6(or even 7/8/9), it was misrepresented.
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  2991. One Dr Phil appearance is the only interview of her. I don’t know what you saw, but it wasn’t her.
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  2992. X rays can’t scam. Her x rays, medical and dental , showed she was a child. Even her birth mother was found.
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  2993. Except she was already adopted by the Ciccones before the movie came out.
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  2994. No court ever ordered her to do any medical tests. There’s no need. Experts have already taken enough through the years. And EVERY SINGLE TEST OR X RAY said she was a child.
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  2995.  @robertfarrell6479  I didn’t touch on point 2 yet either, but I will. I was waiting for Lester to rebut or concede point 1. About 3- They never mentioned breast development, only hair. While photos obviously can’t discern hair, they certainly can breasts and she had zero. Not small—zero. Still zero even after they abandoned her. The Mans first photo of her in Aug 2013- Zero. As for hair, some folks pointed out the possibility of precocious puberty. Look that up if you’re unfamiliar with it. I personally say they were flat out lying. There was another family (DePauls) who spent time with her up until after Christmas 2009, trying to adopt her from the first family (Ciccones). Mrs DePaul bathed her along side her own little daughter and says she had no hair, no signs of puberty. Barnetts took her in in late April 2010. Thats only 4 months after the DePauls. Naw, you don’t go from zero signs of puberty to full hair in 4 months. Now mind you, this stunning event did not dissuade them from finalizing the adoption Six months later on Nov 3, 2010.
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  2996.  @lesterforney6200  According to adoption experts internationally adopted young children will lose their first language extremely rapidly. By 2-6 months they cannot even understand their 1st Lang. Being as how she was here for almost 2 yr already, it’s entirely expected she’d not speak or understand it or have an accent. You made point 1 as if it supported the idea she was a scammer, when it actually supports HER and that she was in fact a young child when she came here.
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  2997. Do you want to discuss this? Let’s start with 1. Do you know how long she had been in the US when the Barnetts adopted her?
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  2998.  @camiosis9024  1, 3 & 5 were the only charges dismissed. 2, 4, 6, 7 & 8 remain. The Barnetts are NOT denying the fact that Anna is her birth mother.
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  2999.  @TruckieLooks4Aliens  Her mother was found in Ukraine and is 41 yrs old,DNA confirmed . Please, tell me how she’d have a 30+ daughter
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  3000.  @camiosis  Keep trying. You might get something right by chance alone
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  3001. @James Omar 😂
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  3002. @James Omar Someone needs to Baker Act these weirdos. They are a menace to society. I can only imagine the destruction they’ve caused in their real lives
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  3003. @James Omar Don’t forget Bee’s alt account Audacity.
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  3004.  @beewoke  Since the Barnetts knew she was originally from Ukraine, why did Michael tell Dr Oz they DIDN’T think she was from Ukraine? Why the big talk about no accent? Was all that just for show?
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  3005. @James Omar I think the Barnett supporters are worried the IN Supreme Court will accept the case. The request by the Attorney General’s Office is quite damaging to Barnetts
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  3006. You mean the court that found probable cause to bind them over for trial on SIX felonies? Yea, I’d say the court definitely knows what’s up
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  3007. The birth mother has been located and interviewed. She said Natalia was born in 2003 like she said all along. The prosecution is DNA testing the birth mom.
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  3008. You mean younger. The tests all said child not adult
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  3009. @James Omar Right back at ya!!
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  3010. @James Omar Thats right you DID say that a while back!!! I remember now. It really is a miracle she survived!! When you hear about a case of child abuse when the child dies, there are always people who “tried” to help. They made multiple calls to CPS or the police. But they didn’t go far enough. They expected the State to do the right thing and the State drops the ball. The only reason Natalia is alive today is because the Mans didn’t wait for the State. The Mans did the rescuing themselves. They didn’t just make a phone call/report then leave her in that apartment thinking “What can I do”. Pretty amazing people.
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  3011. @James Omar Don’t forget, that apartment was a UPPER flat that was accessed via an exterior Staircase. Exterior staircase without regard for Indiana winters with heavy snowfall. For a disabled girl w/difficulty walking. They are absolute scum.
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  3012. But they didn’t go to court to rescind the adoption, did they?? Because then there would have been a record, and an opposing side w/attorneys, not a sneaky confidential age change case
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  3013. Adopted by Barnetts in 2010. Abandoned in 2013.
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  3014. Accent lost, just like every other internationally adopted child who’s been with only English speakers since the age of 4
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  3015. The records were NOT classified.
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  3016. Nemo Sundry She was 6. When they adopted her. In 2010. Almost 10 yrs ago. So she has aged. To 16. Funny how that happens.
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  3017. So if she hurt the Mans then she’s guilty. And if she doesn’t hurt the Mans...she’s guilty? Sounds like you’re biased, if you think she’s guilty no matter what
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  3018. @Forgive Me The FL adoption provider did not hide anything. Barnetts even met the family they were adopting from—Gary and Dyan Ciccone
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  3019. @Forgive Me Michael has posted about his divorce on faceB. He accuses Kristine, not Natalia. Calls Kristine “evil” & said she “abused” him. Said his 2 therapists confirm this.
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  3020. F Joe “No research” Rogan
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  3021. white liberals RD roots of all evil Funny how that happens when your adopted by English speakers when your only 4 (The age she was when 1st fam adopted her)
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  3022. When you were 20 did people mistake you for 6 ? That’s the Barnetts fantastical claim. That she was 20 years old when her previous parents told them she was 6 and they adopted her from them. She only lived in one other home before Barnetts. The home of the 1st adopters, the ones who brought her back from Ukraine. The little people family never had custody of her. They spent a lot of time with her, many long weekends, but was always in the custody of her legal parents.
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  3023. What for? She’s not the one charged with crimes and the adoptive father already confessed
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  3024. Yea that wasn’t nothing but a lie. Dr Ronald Deckard DDS took ex rays of her mouth in 2012 and said she was between 6 & 9 years old. Detectives found her actual records
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  3025. The truth is everything you’ve said was the Barnetts lies. Her actual dental records were uncovered. They said she was a child. Same for her medical records. It’s in probable cause affidavit
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  3026.  @VNeto94  You don’t get it. They knew everything they needed to know. What the agency didn’t know, however, was that they were 2 sick A-holes. That girl was a child, a child with serious medical needs, and they dumped her without a care in the world for anyone but themselves.
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  3027.  @VNeto94  “Know the genetics of the parents”?!? GTFO talking about human beings like they’re dogs.
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  3028. What a nice thing to say. Degrading adopted children everywhere. Funny thing tho, you’re a man, so we could say the same about your children/future children. 😂
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  3029. Is that all it takes to convince you? Them telling a bunch of lies. The prosecution has actual evidence. The records they concealed. They are guilty
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  3030. What about the 1st family? The Ciccones? They are the ones who hired the agency to find her a new family. They brought her to the Barnetts. So are they scammers too? Just curious. Cause they seem like decent folks. Harvard grad mom. Architect dad. 2 bio sons. They didn’t just dump her, they hired an adoption agency to find a new family. So is everyone scammers Except Barnetts?
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  3031. @Techno-mage First, Barnetts didn’t bring her here. Another family did. Then after Kristine realized they difficulty of caring for a child recovering from surgery and knowing that she needed a dozen more? She noped out. The son then gained fame. She branded herself a parenting expert. And parenting experts don’t return disabled adopted kids. What would people think of her? She tried to institutionalize her. That failed. So she thought an age change might get her deported. That failed. Investigation led to the Barnetts arrest, not Natalia’s.
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  3032. To be honest, they did have the statutory 6 months waiting period with N in their home before they finalized the adoption and it became legally binding. Not so rushed when you consider that fact. I wouldn’t be so quick to label HER the sociopath when you have 2 people charged with 8 felony counts.
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  3033. “ALL of her interviews”?? That sounds like she gave a lot of interviews. But in truth there was only 1, Dr Phil. It’s the Barnetts who gave a dozen interviews.
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  3034. She was 6 when Barnetts adopted her in 2010. The Mans met her in 2013 and she’s been a part of their family ever since.
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  3035. They adopted her at age 6, NOT dumped her at age 6
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  3036. @Ben Haney 5) The parents have no other adopted children. They have 3 bio sons. 2 are now over 18 and live in Canada far away from the parents who are in Florida and Indiana. Further they have been estranged from the dad for years.
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  3037. @Ben Haney 4) The parents did not support her. Everything was paid for with her SSI checks
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  3038. @Ben Haney 3) She was a child and they had the duty to support her. Even today at 16 she is still a minor.
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  3039. @Ben Haney 2) She didn’t request any no contact order. The court ordering no contact with the victim is STANDARD when the accused posts bond
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  3040. @Ben Haney 1) Her age was changed on an ex parte motion. She had no attorney, she wasn’t even there. Basically like a trial in absentia. It wasn’t even a trial. There was no opposing party. No due process.
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  3041. What was painstaking & excruciating? They said they got a cold call from an agency and then went and picked her up?
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  3042.  @camiosis9024  But Maternity DNA test can prove maternity. Anna Gava is her biological mother.
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  3043. They tried to extinguish Natalia’s spark, but failed miserably.
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  3044.  @camiosis9024  It’s called a Maternity DNA test, not a Maternal DNA test. 😂Just like a paternity DNA test proves paternity, a maternity DNA test proves maternity. Oh Pinocchiosis, you’re so transparent
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  3045.  @camiosis9024  Age DNA tests cannot tell Chronological age. They tell biological age.
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  3046.  @camiosis9024  Evidence is not admitted until a trial begins. Lol.
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  3047.  @camiosis9024  They didn’t have their trials yet. Thus the judge didn’t look at all the evidence (like the DNA evidence) and reach a conclusion. That would be called a trial IF that’s what happened.
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  3048.  @kellykroeger714  You keep saying the probable cause affidavit is a loop hole police use so they don’t have to go to a judge for a warrant. You’re wrong. The probable cause affidavit is PRESENTED to a judge. It’s not a loop whole. Then the JUDGE either approves a warrant for arrest, or does not. In this case the judge approved the warrant for arrest. Why you keep saying that a judge didn’t approve them being arrested and act like the cops just arrested them on their own accord is laughable. It is only after arrest, at a trial, that the facts/evidence are determined to be true or false. The defendants get to offer evidence also. Could be true evidence or could not. A jury will decide (or judge is the defendants choose to forgo a jury and let judge decide).
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  3049.  @camiosis9024  Maternity DNA testing is legally admissible and can confirm the biological mother with a 99.99% accuracy. Just like paternity tests. Here’s another provider https://www.easy-dna.com/dna-maternity-test/
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  3050.  @camiosis9024  Lol You deleted your comment now your claiming yOuTuBE DId iT and sent you an email. Bha ha ha. That’s a good one, Pinocchiosis🤥
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  3051.  @camiosis9024  Maternity DNA testing will confirm if the woman is the mother of the child. Call here too!! https://dnacenter.com/relationship-testing/maternity/
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  3052.  @camiosis9024  Sorry Charlie, Michele Jackson’s Adoption Agency is no longer accredited for international adoptions. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/News/Intercountry-Adoption-News/mlj-adoptions-accreditation-relinquishment.html
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  3053.  @kellykroeger714  Warrants WERE issued for the Barnetts arrests. Ok? The warrants were approved by the court. This is basic info in this case, I’m surprised you didn’t know. Proof https://www.wlfi.com/content/news/Arrest-warrants-filed-for-parents-of-girl-abandoned-in-Lafayette-560580721.html
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  3054.  @camiosis9024  BTW Your post about the adoption agency wasn’t taken down. You deleted it because it proves that Kristine is breaking the gag order. Nice try but I already got the screen shot
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  3055.  @camiosis9024  Ya know who’s no longer accredited to do Ukrainian adoptions? The attorney who got scammed by Barnetts into helping them change Natalia’s age. Poor Michele Jackson must be so horrified at how she was duped. I actually feel bad for her.
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  3056.  @camiosis9024  Any agency that approved the likes of the Barnetts to adopt so much as a turtle OUGHT to be investigated! They gave a child to Neglectful parents!
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  3057.  @camiosis9024  Stop Lying. Dr Riggs NEVER testified FOR the Barnetts. Dr Riggs said she was 8 yrs old in 2010.
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  3058.  @camiosis9024  Again, no one claimed a Maternal DNA test determines age. That’s why it’s called a MATERNITY DNA test, it determines MATERNITY. Lol. 99.9% Certainty. Says so on the Website lol
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  3059.  @kellykroeger714  Yes, a Doctor, specifically an endocrinologist said she was about 8 in 2010. 2 years later she had a growth plate analysis (aka skeletal survey) and her age estimated at 11
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  3060.  @kellykroeger714  Here you can read what a Probable Cause Affidavit actually is because your understanding of it is incorrect https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/affidavit-of-probable-cause/
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  3061.  @camiosis9024  You’re hilarious, Pinocchiosis. It says right on their website that the Maternity DNA test can conclusively prove maternity to a probability of 99.9%
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  3062.  @camiosis9024  Stop with the Red Herring. No one is claiming the DNA test was a test to determine her age
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  3063.  @kellykroeger714  According to the ruling it doesn’t matter if she’s an actual minor or not. All that matters is the 2012 decision saying her birth year is 1989. This is what is being appealed. The prosecution wants to present the new evidence to the jury and let the jury decide. The judge says they cannot.
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  3064.  @kellykroeger714  The only thing the Maternal DNA test proved was that Anna was her mother. Once established as her Bmom, her records and documents prove Natalia was born 2003.
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  3065. Awe, looks like someone can’t read. Keeps confusing Maternity DNA testing with Mitochondrial DNA testing. I know they both start with “M”, Pinocchiosis, but they’re different tests
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  3066.  @camiosis9024  Is Kristine really telling her Facebook Learning the Spark groupies that SHE didn’t motion the court to change Natalia’s birth year to 1989? Is she really telling you guys that? I mean, haven’t you SEEN the document with your own eyes? I have. I’ve seen it. And SHE DID ask that the court change Natalia’s birth from 2003 to 1989. Can’t any of you Spark families read???? Lol
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  3067. DNA Maternity Testing is just as #reliable as DNA paternity testing. But that doesn’t stop the Barnutters from claiming otherwise. It’s so comical 😂Read for yourself https://www.lbgenetics.com/what-is-a-dna-maternity-test/
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  3068. Barnetts can’t explain away the results from 2 doctors analysis of her growth plates. No sir. This is solid proof. Read for yourself https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6454753-Probable-Cause-Affidavit.html
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  3069. @Camiosis Save it for someone stupid enough to believe your lies Pinocchio
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  3070. @Camiosis Pinocchio 🤥
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  3071. @Camiosis You find it interesting because you’re kinda slow and don’t understand what you read. That’s ok. You just don’t understand that this new judge did not evaluate the new evidence. The new judge says the 2012 age change is controlling. But he did give permission for the prosecution to appeal. The prosecution wants the jury to hear and evaluate ALL the new evidence that wasn’t available back in 2012 cause those creepy Barnutts were able to conceal it. So now we get to see if the Barnutts committed the perfect crime or not. But fortunately now that the new evidence is found, a civil suit is all but guaranteed after the criminal trial concludes.
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  3072. @camiosis So interesting. You keep highlighting the fact that there has CLEARLY been a miscarriage of justice, as a proven child was turned into an adult. Carry on.
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  3073. They were the ones doing the violating. They violated her.
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  3074. So the Barnetts were in it for the money? Maybe, cause they sure didn’t do it out of love.
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  3075. Don’t be so naive. They got caught and will say anything to try to avoid looking like the bad guys. But the bad guys they are. She was a child
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  3076. The defrauded the court. She was a child and they knew it. Now we know it too. They belong behind bars
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  3077. I guess that defense could apply to any adoptive parent accused of child abuse. “Why would you starve/beat/traffic a kid you went out of your way to adopt?”
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  3078. There were medical tests, and they said she was a child. Dental tests too. And they said she was a child. She is a teen today.
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  3079. A miracle, considering that her birth mother is 40
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  3080.  @stephenholmes7322  Kristine said she enrolled her. And this was after the age change so Natalia did have a birth certificate saying she was 23. As for participating, LARA has made no statements regarding this. We do know that she didn’t get a GED. And one of the charges pending against Barnetts is for educational neglect. We will see what the court of appeals has to say about it.
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  3081.  @stephenholmes7322  Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m commenting under my real name. Because I have no reason to hide behind an alias/username.
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