Comments by "John Woodrow" (@johnwoodrow8769) on "US government ‘overreacted’ to COVID-19" video.

@elizabethweber390 Hi Elizabeth, trust you haven't taken anything I've said to mean I think old people really are expendable. It wasn't that long ago my mother was in a aged care home. My comment is that society as a whole doesn't care. I care enough to be be really pissed than globally around 3/4 of all deaths are 50% people in aged care facilities, and 25% of people in home-care. Who is responsible for this appalling situation? Well certainly for the people in aged care homes its the governments of the world. In both the UK and New York, they were actually returning aged care people who had been taken to hospital back to the care home without testing them. They just rolled the virus straight in the front door. In Spain the staff just fled aged care homes and left the dead lying in bed. The army had to come in to clean up the disaster. I watched in horror at the PPE supplied by the UK to its health care workers conducting testing, and aged care workers. By comparison to what countries like South Korea supplied its workers you'd have thought the UK was a third world country. Even the most strident supporter of 'herd immunity' will emphasis the importance of protecting the vulnerable. So whether it is a 'herd immunity' or 'lockdown' it is the governments of the world who claim to be looking after the citizens who have failed miserably. Yet they go around lecturing everyone else how to handle the situation. My comments on government are non partisan, it apples equally to whoever was in charge regardless of their philosophy. Both have failed miserably. Take care.
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Yep, we certainly don't want to add to the 6 million children under 5 who die each year.
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Russia .... Reported cases 252,254 ..... reported deaths 2,305. That a death rate of 0.1%, same as that recognized for seasonal Influenza. Undoubtedly there will be some unreported deaths, by many times more unreported cases, so the death rate will actually be lower. Compared to what Western countries are reporting, either the Ruskies are tougher or drinking heaps of vodka maybe a good defense against Covid-19.
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@samirskinner6662 Ok, 0.9% and then when you take into consideration the well documented five to ten times amount of unreported cases it becomes the 0.1% to 0.3% established in early antibody studies.
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@samirskinner6662 Seems you running a circular flawed argument there. You don't know what the level of unreported cases is in the world, as they haven't been reported??? Me, I prefer to rely on science so are guided by the various antibody studies taking place around the world. As yet these are still limited in scope, but most are returning similar results. Infection levels are significantly higher than reported cases, and to me that just seems common sense for a virus that has a very minor affect on the vast majority of people. Not sure what county you are from, but one of Australia's current 'hot spots' of cases is a meat abattoir. They wouldn't have even know of its existence unless one butcher badly damages his hand and had to be taken to hospital and got tested while he was there. There's 98 cases right there that probably would never have been recorded other than this one industrial accident. For ages the medical advice in Australia was just stay home and self isolate for 14 days if you think you might have caught the virus. They wouldn't even allow you to be tested until quite recently unless you met 2 strict narrow criteria (overseas traveler, or in contact with a proven carrier)
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@samirskinner6662 How can you say they would have shown symptoms? They weren't showing symptoms, that's the whole point. It wasn't till the guy went to hospital for a damaged finger that someone figured out well he's the second person who works there (the first was a couple weeks previous) so we better go around and test the lot. 96 asymptomatic cases latter..... If you believe there is solid evidence to support the true death rate is much higher than Influenza (which by the way kills 260-600 thousand people each and every year) explain to me why Singapore has a death rate of 0.08%? That is reported cases to recorded deaths. Does Singapore have some magic vaccine or treatment it's not sharing with the world? Do Singaporean people have some unique physical attributes few other countries have? Is its health care system vastly superior to European countries, say Germany? Or is it because in typical Singapore government style they are extremely malicious and accurate in everything they do (I've done quite a bit of work in SE Asia).
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Hate to be a killjoy, but you need to add around another 50,000 deaths per year to your 34,300 number to account for the Influenza induced phenomena deaths. Now you have about the same number as current Covid-19 deaths where the doctor wrote Influenza or Viral Phenomena as the "cause of death" on the death certificate. THEN.... you need to add on the number of people who had Influenza at the time of death, but the doctor wrote down the comorbidity that he/she had been treating them for possibly many years as the 'cause of death'. Gets complicated real fast hey!
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@elizabethweber390 Point taken. But it is important to assess things in the correct context. I doesn't make it better or worse, it just allows us to understand it better. The current concern for 'old people' is an interesting moral question. Not sure what country you are from. Does Australia REALLY care about its very elderly? If you have ever visited the high care section of a typical aged care home, see how we leave these people sitting all day like vegetables propped up in front of a TV in a common room, feed them slop I wouldn't feed my dog (not an exaggeration) and looked after by people on about the same wages as an 18 year old working at McDonalds who don't want to be doing the job but can't find a better job anywhere, you'd have to conclude no, society normally doesn't give a rats arse about its elderly citizens. Out of sight, out of mind. This recent care by society is quiet ironic.
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