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Comments by "John Woodrow" (@johnwoodrow8769) on "British Medical Association calls for UK lockdown extension" video.
Even the 'more transmissible' comment is open to dispute. Yes they are identifying more 'associations' to other people now than in the past. Does that prove the virus is more 'transmissible', or just the ability to more accurately contact trace and so identify more 'associations' has improved with time?
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@Whoisthis1111 NO!! You just made that up. There is most certainly NO evidence the Delta variant makes people more ill or increases hospitalization rates (higher viral loads). That is the official position of the World Health Organisation, if you want to dispute the point take it up with them. They DON'T know how "quickly it transmits between people". The basis of the finding that is more infectious is based on the R0 number. That is the average number of people infected by someone with the virus. Nothing to do with speed of infection. For the Alpha variant it is an average of 8% of contacts, for the Delta strain it is 12% (12% being 50% more than 8%). BUT, there is no way they can rule out, nor separate out, that the higher 12% of contacts is due partially or even solely to improved identification of infected contacts. In fact there would be something wrong if procedures to be better at identify infected contacts hadn't improved over the past 12 months.
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That's the joke. Because we know know for certain that fully vaccinated people still test positive to covid, the world is forever going to be in 'lock-down'.
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@pchatz4834 Without publishing the Cycle Threshold (Ct) result at which someone tested 'positive' it is actually a rather meaningless result. Like when Andy Murray the tennis player was due to fly to Australia for the tennis in Melbourne he wasn't allowed as he tested 'positive'. He'd had covid about 2 months earlier, and wasn't infectious to anyone. All the positive result showed was he may have had the tinniest bit of nonviable viral material still in his system. I'm actually surprised how non contagious covid appears to be. Someone with full blown true Influenza will just about infect everyone they come into close contact with.
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@Whoisthis1111 Neither the UK or India have been "overpowered" by the Delta variant. In fact reported case numbers on a population basis are exceptionally low. In the case of the UK current numbers are only a tiny fraction of what they were several months ago. So using your own flawed logic, that makes the Delta variant actually weaker. The WHO have an extensive publicly available analysis of all variants including an assessment of transmission rate and medical impact of each. Just because you haven't taken the time to find it, or don't know how to find it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's on the WHO website.
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@Whoisthis1111 If a country has 10 reported cases a day, and it then is has 20 reported cases ..... its doubled. So according to you that's a MAJOR drama. Back in early January the UK was reporting 67 THOUSAND cases a day. It's currently reporting around 7 thousand. Deaths in early January were around 1800 a day, presently less than 20 a day. Do you do any research on the subject at all? Seems to me you just fire of totally uninformed comments on social media based upon the last news report you heard.
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SkyNews you do yourselves no favor pushing this fear mongering fake news. The daily number of reported covid cases in the UK is about as small as it has been at any time since the 'pandemic' began, and the number of daily reported deaths has dropped to the lowest number it has ever been.
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And just why isn't the Australia media reporting the higher than normal incidence of heart problems among fit young adults (16-24 years olds) who have received the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna) that have been identified in Israel and the USA ..... https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cdc-heart-inflammation-cases-ages-16-24-higher-than-expected-after-mrna-covid-19-2021-06-10/
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@Whoisthis1111 You just keep making stuff up, and I only reply because I find it slightly amusing. So somehow instantly when I point out the neither the UK or India are suffering a current covid disaster as the scare mongering fake news outlets run to improve their ratings (fear sells), everything is now under control in those countries because of good medical intervention and vaccinations. You need to get your sales pitch consistent. It's all doom and gloom and we are all going to die, or the wonders of science have saved us all. It's either one or the other.
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@Whoisthis1111 Perhaps you'd like to try explaining why Singapore has had over 62,000 reported cases of covid (the actual number would be higher) since this issue began, yet only 34 deaths. This was mostly all before any vaccine was being used. And yes, they have the Delta variant circulating in Singapore. Do you think it might be the weather? Perhaps there is some medicinal power in Singapore noodles? It's a pretty crowed place ....... And don't try and tell me its 'mask wearing' or something as equally easily dismissed which hasn't made a scrap of difference elsewhere. How about, the virus isn't a widespread serious problem as long as you keep it out of the aged care or already chronically sick population (including obesity), just like Influenza? How about that for a novel idea.
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@Whoisthis1111 Look at a graph over time of reported cases for ANY country which has been exposed to the virus from the beginning, and everyone of them you'll see a bunch of peaks and troughs over time, starting LONG before Alpha or Delta variants even existed. You can't tell much of anything from a small rise in reported positive cases at a given point in time. All that really matters is if people are dying DIRECTLY from covid, and would have otherwise lived a productive life for some decent period of time. Most of the people who have died from covid already had one foot in the grave. Obese people have been told for years that unless they got their weight under control they would die early. All that has changed is an unknown (covid) was added to the extensive list of things that is already killing them e.g. Type 2 diabetes. India's reported death rate for covid is still relatively VERY low on a population basis. On a par with countries like Nepal and the Maldives. P.S. And if you ask don't I care about the health of obese people, my answer will be .... as much as they do.
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