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Comments by "PM" (@pm71241) on "Religion, Israel, Gay Marriage, and Trump | Dennis Prager | POLITICS | Rubin Report" video.
blurglide ... yeah... it's much better to have moral being black and white and having a holy book to tell you which is which ... and a group of religious people to tell you have to interpret it, if you try to be too clever.
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***** "It would require many, many pages to define the precise nature of evil, but most people recognize evil when they see it." Sure... but what if I told you that I recognize Dennis Prager -or at least his work - as evil ?
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***** "We can control global warming." Not if people like Prager get their way. "Can we control Islam?" We have to ... I just point out that evil takes many forms and Prager is in no position to claim the mantle of good.
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Well ... if he hadn't at the same time shown sympathy for what a lot of other people regard as evil, then it would have made more sense.
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Agnostic Atheist ... it could actually be more simple than that. The "golden rule" springs directly out of game theory. As Dawkins argued, for a social animal the tit-for-tat strategy to the iterated prisoners dilemma is the most optimal - hence the golden rule.
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***** Revelations?
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Sgman1991 I'm sure many here would be happy to be corrected and enlightened on the real number of Christian denominations then ... and it would be very convincing if it was accompanied by a common understanding with the Mormons whether or not they counted as one.
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***** ... A wise thing to do about "evil" is to recognize that what people regard as "evil" is very subjective. Prager regard "the left" as evil. I can understand that to some degree given the authoritarian gravitation to something like stalinism (as Jordan Peterson points out). But at the same time, I personally regard the ideological motivated climate science denial people like Prager (Mitch McConnel, and many in Trumps new cabinet , etc...) preaches which threatens the future of the planet and life for our grandchildren as at least just as evil. You could actually (with some cynicism) make the argument that the latter is more evil, since even if we decent down to authoritarian stalinistic gulac nightmare, history has shown it can be undone in a few generations. ... however the damage people like Scott Pruitt is doing to the planet is irreversible on any time scale meaningful to humans. (>100.000 years) So before anyone gets a free pass to "destroy evil" ... let's start by agreeing what "evil" is.
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***** As I stated above (or in some other comment) I agree with him to some degree that the authoritarian left is evil (same argument as Jordan Peterson makes). However... the damage authoritarian leftism makes has empirically been shown to be reversible over some generations/centuries. On the other hand... the evil Prager unfolds when he is a part of a misinformations campaign to delay action on climate change has consequences which are irreversible on any time scale meaningful to humans. Nature reverts from these CO2 excursions over the course of hundreds of thousands of years. (as shown from the geological record). So ... an argument could be made that Pragers activity is more evil - or at least evil with more serious consequences - than the SJW evil of authoritarianism.
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TheOlzee ... until of course somebody comes along who regard you as a part of evil. Then I suppose you would want to discuss the semantics of "evil" and who gets to decide what is evil.
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TheOlzee "I don't get involved in such stupid discussions" ... ah... So you are the one who gets to decide what is evil. Of course... I should have seen that coming. That's the foundation of authoritarianism. Whether it's right wing authoritarianism, left wing authoritarianism or theocratic authoritarianism. Declare that "evil" is objective and that YOU are the one capable of judging what is evil. That's how we get people like Mike Pence (on the right), the SJW movement (on the left) and the mullahs and the spanish inquisition. None of whom agree what "evil" is - they just know it's the other guy.
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TheOlzee Sure ... and I have an opinion of what I think is evil too. Anf of course I think we should fight evil. I even think I can agree with Prager about some of the evil ... but that's not my point. My point is that Prager doesn't get to take the moral high ground and declare himself arbiter of what's evil. There are stuff I vehemently disagree with Prager on where I actually thinks HE is the representation of evil.
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