Comments by "PM" (@pm71241) on "On Politics, Trump, and Political Correctness (Pt. 2) | Bob Saget | COMEDY | Rubin Report" video.

  1. Dave - for the record - a big part of those you call "haters" don't criticize you because of your criticism of the authoritarian SJW/regressive left. But you tend to ignore that part of the criticism.
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  2. "what dave means is that fighting for the liberal values of free speech, individualism," Yeah sure... but the "applying reason and logic" part went out the window somewhere along the road. I would like to believe you, but Twitter-Dave makes it really hard for me. And just to be clear - There should be room for having "true idiots" on. But if you claim what you are doing is about "applying reason to the big questions", then don't sit there not challenging the idiocy and instead turn it into a platform for promoting the idiocy. And to be more clear.... this is not the same a the right/left wing criticism Dave likes to pretend is the only one. I don't care how many "left wing" people he has on. What I'm saying is not fixed by somehow balancing out the amount of "progressives" he has on the show. It's fixed by stop amplifying fact-free nonsense. From all sides. Not just when it's about "non-binary genders". ... and if challenging nonsense seems hard to do there on the spot unprepared, then consider whether the interview format is really fitting for engaging controversial people known to spew misinformation and nonsense. Dave's interview format kinda requires honest actors. Not all of the guests have been that.
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  3. "so criticizing stupidity and foolishness is good and necessary, as long as the criticism is applied across the board, which seems to be what you're saying. " Yeah ... or, - at least. Don't advertise it as your primary thing and then totally abandon it. Apart from that I agree with your last statement. I've ended up supporting Sam Harris instead. I think he does what Dave claimed he would do in the beginning. And he does it well. And he solves the problem of the dialogue format not working with non-honest actors by simply avoiding people he doesn't trust to be sincere (like he mentioned wrt. Stefan Molyneux.
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  4. He has recently moved all his activity to this own website. (samharris.org). My interest in his work goes way back to the post 9/11 awakening of the skeptical/atheist community, but I haven't read any of his books (although I plan to read his book with Maajid Nawaz, "The future of tolerance" at one point). I was already atheist in advance and I'm not American, so "Letter to a Christian Nation" was not really on the top of my reading list.
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  5. You too ... "dudess" ?
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  6. I've actually kinda given up on Dave ... but in short. He started out promoting this as being (quote) "a forum dedicated to applying reason to the big questions of the day". It started out very well with people like Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz ... but it quickly took a downward turn into only SJW bashing (which has its merits) and abandoned the "reason" part in favor of what Dave calls his "allies" amongst the fact-free conservative. It seems the only "reason" applied here is: If the SHW crows hates you, I'll pander to your worldview. People like Dennis Prager are in no way about "applying reason". It also seems Dave doesn't practice what he preaches, if you look at Twitter, where he's basically just parroting his new found allies talking-points. I you want to say you are about "applying reason" - you have to not only apply it to one single issue and then give every other kind of nonsense a free part - or even begin parroting it yourself.
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  7. +erin franklin. No. That's not what I said. First of all ... I have nothing against "conservatives" as long as they are honest actors and value reason and truth. I have no problem with people like David Frum. What I don't like is the fact-free dishonest modus operandi of people like Steven Crowder, Dennis Prager and Alex Epstein. And it was NOT "a few" ... Admittedly, lately the barrage of nonsense has worn of, but for a while "reason and logic" took a back seat to fact-free ideology. (and the talking-points has gotten to Dave). Now, Dave is of course in his right to do anything he like. My complaint is that he advertised this as being about "applying reason to the big questions" ... and it was not. It has for long periods been pandering to the fact-free right by promoting their nonsense unchallenged. I don't care about the left/right thing. I regard my self as a classical liberal in the tradition of Thomas Paine, but what I care a about is reason and what's true. I'm 100% on the same page as people like Sam Harris. I find the SJW nonsense, and the authoritarian and/or regressive left idiotic and dangerous, but I see no way that can justify promoting equal nonsense from the fact-free right. Any one actually trying to promote a "reason" based center would be equally critical of the nonsense from the right as that from the left. But I'm pretty sure that if I called out the idiocy on the right the same way as Dave calls out the SJW nonsense, he would complain that I'm not engaging in dialogue. And. btw... Daves "liberal values" can NOT a conservative position. Liberalism and conservatism has fundamental differences. But maybe that nonsense is just due to the two-party system being to baked into the US culture.
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  8. Dave Rubin is "trying to put two factions together" ??? Well ... I don't buy into the whole right/left dichotomy, but I sure know that what Dave has been doing recently is in no way bringing me closer to his new found fact-free conservative buddies like Dennis Prager
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  9. Trump is both - a symptom AND a problem.
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