Comments by "Digital Nomad" (@digitalnomad9985) on "Fox Business"
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I assume you meant something like "Stop being a warmonger, man, and I know the war never ended." Even that is not a rational reply to my refutation of the concept that NK can be attacked for no reason. It is just name calling and Bulverism. It is irrelevant to the refutation in 2 ways:
1. Refuting your fallacy does not make me a warmonger.
2. If I were a warmonger it would not affect the fact that I refuted your fallacy.
The term "warmonger" is only good for irrational and tendentious name calling anyway. It IMPLIES that the target is a person who likes war and will advocate it at every opportunity. In practical terms of how it is used it only really MEANS a person who advocates a war you don't advocate. And if you read my post carefully, I did not even do that. You vastly misrepresented a point of fact in your original post. I corrected your error. That's it. I did not advocate a course of action.
From Bulverism by C. S. Lewis:
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You must show that a man is wrong before you start explaining why he is wrong. The modern method is to assume without discussion that he is wrong and then distract his attention from this (the only real issue) by busily explaining how he became so silly.
In the course of the last fifteen years I have found this vice so common that I have had to invent a name for it. I call it "Bulverism". Some day I am going to write the biography of its imaginary inventor, Ezekiel Bulver, whose destiny was determined at the age of five when he heard his mother say to his father — who had been maintaining that two sides of a triangle were together greater than a third — "Oh you say that because you are a man." "At that moment", E. Bulver assures us, "there flashed across my opening mind the great truth that refutation is no necessary part of argument. Assume that your opponent is wrong, and explain his error, and the world will be at your feet. Attempt to prove that he is wrong or (worse still) try to find out whether he is wrong or right, and the national dynamism of our age will thrust you to the wall." That is how Bulver became one of the makers of the Twentieth Century.
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Suppose I think, after doing my accounts, that I have a large balance at the bank. And suppose you want to find out whether this belief of mine is "wishful thinking." You can never come to any conclusion by examining my psychological condition. Your only chance of finding out is to sit down and work through the sum yourself. When you have checked my figures, then, and then only, will you know whether I have that balance or not. If you find my arithmetic correct, then no amount of vapouring about my psychological condition can be anything but a waste of time. If you find my arithmetic wrong, then it may be relevant to explain psychologically how I came to be so bad at my arithmetic, and the doctrine of the concealed wish will become relevant — but only after you have yourself done the sum and discovered me to be wrong on purely arithmetical grounds. It is the same with all thinking and all systems of thought. If you try to find out which are tainted by speculating about the wishes of the thinkers, you are merely making a fool of yourself. You must first find out on purely logical grounds which of them do, in fact, break down as arguments. Afterwards, if you like, go on and discover the psychological causes of the error.
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+MrZapparin
"You actually believe NK is a danger to USA, or that they're seriously going to attack SK, or Japan."
NK has never ceased to assert that they are, and that they will, and appears to be vigorously upgrading its ability to, do all of those bad things.
". If NK has nukes, then they are at even odds. "
Securing our freedom is not about giving the bad guys a fair chance to screw things up.
" if the NKs want to get rid of The Dear Leader, then it's up to them, not us. Who are we to decide on their behalf" [sic]
What the people of NK want is unknown, and under the current regime, unknowable. It is not a question of whether they will have their choice taken away from them, but of whether they will begin to have a choice.
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