Comments by "Kalimdor199" (@Kalimdor199Menegroth) on "Why Do So Many Young Europeans Still Live At Home?" video.
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@computerfan1079 Statistically, millions of immigrants have been coming into Western Europe, so much so that in some countries like Ireland, there is a housing crisis going on. And that is a case where the government is admitting that the housing crisis is exacerbated by immigration. There are other countries where this is a problem, like UK, France, Sweden, Italy, Spain. These people need housing, and especially those that come illegally. In many of these countries, hotels are being rented by the government so they can house them. Using taxpayer money.
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@Lemmy4555 It does not have any influence on the price directly. But indirectly, through regulations and bureaucracy it can contribute to the final price of housing. That is what it is called the cost of compliance. The more a construction company has to navigate the bureaucracy, the most standards it has to keep into account, the higher the price of housing at the end. For example, our government wanted to implement regulations where construction companies are obliged to install central heating for each bloc of flats they plan to construct. That alone would've raised the overall price of a flat by 20% at least. The decision was scrapped after public out roar. This idea came because of the current climate alarmism and the idea that individual heating through household plants pollutes too much. Needless to say the public threatened that they will burn the politicians at the stake and the project was retracted, Thank God.
House owners should be able to make with their property whatever they want. Whether they want to live or let others live there or whatever, that is their freedom as long as they obtained the property legally. If they can make a profit out of it, more power to them. Success needs to be encouraged, not discouraged. The low supply is not created by citizens of companies, but by governments. Again, cut housing taxes, land taxes, taxes for construction materials, regulations, and the supply with rise and the cost of housing will lower. The only thing I can agree that the government needs to have a say is in the quality of the construction as well as when the building is a historical monument. Other than that, no government must be involved. Because the government can only do bad things, not good things.
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@Lemmy4555 Ok, then promote pro-birth policies. The destruction of our civilization by bringing people just to pay for our pensions is not worth it on the long run. Much of Western Europe now is a shithole where gangs rule the streets, where crime has increased, where drugs roam freely, where the rule of law is becoming non-existent. Western Europe as it is now with its immigration policies is not a place where one can raise a child in safety.
Illegal immigration is a real thing. Simply go to Italy, Spain, Greece or other states that are transited by them. The far right has its feet firmly planted on this Earth when it says it is a problem, and it seems like even the left and far left thinks now that it is a problem. More and more governments, regardless of their ideology have started to restrict immigration.
"llegal immigration is a far-right strawman and it represent not more than a couple of thousands cases per year."
You probably mean hundreds of thousands of cases per year. Not too long ago we got around 2 million in a few months. And you're telling me this is a strawman? LOL
"Taxes are needed to keep the society working and regulations are needed to prevent constructions companies to build dangerous concrete monsters that may fall in any moment and don't give the minimum standards of livability like during the soviet union."
The more taxes you add, the less people will be willing to pay them. Economically speaking, lower taxes = more state revenue. Higher taxes = more fiscal evasion. This has been consistent throughout recent history in all cases. Also, more taxation affects exactly those that barely make it out month by month. Rich or well off people have instruments and knowledge to easily evade them without any legal repercussions. That is why tax havens exist and will continue to exist. The same politicians who want more taxes keep their earnings in tax havens. As for regulations, I am not talking about building standards, I am talking about regulations in regards to importing material, border taxes, regulations in regards to construction authorizations, etc.
"and don't give the minimum standards of livability like during the soviet union."
Ironically speaking, there is more comfort in a soviet union built flat nowadays than in a modern flat. Which is why at least here, in Eastern Europe, the old flats in the 70s and 80s have more market value than the newly built ones. Even though they are only getting older.
"The solution is another: build affordable housing using the french methodology to compete with real-estate agencies, enforce 6 months of house occupancy to fight speculation on house prices and increase regulation on short term rental. This will at first increase the house availability in the short term, and in the long term the public sector will force house owners to rent for a lower price."
That surely helped the French... not. No, the solution is to eliminate as much as possible taxation and regulations on the construction industry, allow construction workers and businessmen to create wealth by doing what they do best, rather than placing hurdles on their labor and knowledge. Eliminate the bureaucracy regarding urbanistic plans and allow a cheap and fast authorization process for new constructions. This will increase the offer and make it support the demand. More taxation and regulation will only make current house owners and construction companies far less reticent at investing in this domain and it will only exacerbate the current house crisis.
I am a conservative anarcho-capitalist individual. I want less state, more private property. Less taxation, less regulation, more individual freedom.
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@Lemmy4555 The problem is a combination of bad immigration policy and government regulation. Immigrants are about 20-25% of the population of Western Europe. Eastern Europe is less welcoming to immigrants. Because of mass immigration, the housing market cannot keep up with the domestic demand as well as the demand from business to house immigrants from abroad. This is most exemplified in Ireland, where the government admits that immigration is at the root cause of their housing crisis. Plenty of states already rent hotels to house immigrants because of lack of housing. Your statement just doesn't match reality.
The rise in prices is driven by government regulation as well. Too much bureaucracy, too much taxation on the construction industry, too many regulations also drive up the price of housing. Immigration is a short term benefit, but a long term burden. Once they learn about the loopholes in the system, they will exploit it. The answer is less immigration.
You can still have an agricultural sector even without immigrants. If you properly mechanize it, a small proportion of the population will be involved in it. That would lead to higher wages. Subsistence agriculture requires the employment of large amounts of immigrants. Same with fast-food or restaurant workers. These can be automatized as well. Japan, South Korea and Taiwan also face population decline, yet they did not promote mass immigration policy, and for good reason. That is why their streets are much safer.
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@Lemmy4555 Much of the euro zone has been stagnating as well, economically speaking since the last crisis. The growth has been comparable with Japan's. Also, several Western European languages are difficult to learn as well, especially the Nordic ones, so English is used as a medium. In Japan's case, it is their unwillingness to bring swathes of immigrants even temporarily to their state.
Real immigration population is around 20-30%. Some countries like France have 50% immigrants or more. I do not buy EU statistics at all as EU in general wants to paint a positive picture of immigration, when the picture is actually bleak. I do not want to move to Cuba or China. I want to live where I am now, I do not want to mix my people with other cultures and races, I do not want the streets to be unsafe places. I do not want terrorist attacks here. I just want to live in a normal state governed by rules and wisdom, not by chaos and disorder. Not in a state that is willing to deconstruct its civilization.
USA is literally a major shithole, especially the urban environment where crime and homelessness is rapidly rising and the Latin-American dominated gangs are ruling the streets of most cities. On a daily basis there are over 10000 illegal border crossings in the US. This is literally an invasion of catastrophic proportions. UK is infested with no-go zones caused by a certain religion of peace. Not to mention the rising crime. No wonder its most popular nickname is Stabbystan.
So no, immigration is part of the issue, together with the government. The solution is less to no immigration and a smaller government. Hail Javier Milei.
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@Lemmy4555 He is against illegal immigration. And he is an anarcho-capitalist that thinks the state is the problem. And for good reason.
Why do you think the Japanese don't feel like speaking English? It is partly because they have an anti-immigrant culture. Countries that want to attract immigrants but have difficult languages usually promote English as a language of communication. See the Scandinavian states, Finland or the Baltic states.
"nevertheless Sweden for instance is probably the most welcoming country with the biggest universal welfer state."
Yeah, but this is about to end, as the immigration policy in Sweden has proven to be a disaster and a failure. Many parts of Sweden are literally war zones between criminal gangs of immigrant background. Not to mention the no-go zones where the police needs military assistance to penetrate and enforce laws.
"EU economy steadily grew at a rate of 2/3% on average with the exception of Portugal, Spain, Ireland and Poland that had an higher rate of growth, and except Poland the other 3 are all welcoming countries in terms of immigration."
More like 1-2% and the only reason it grew up to 3% is because some Eastern European states have been included in the euro zone. Non-euro-zone countries generally have double the economic growth compared to Western Europe which has been either in recession or stagnating economically.
"US has indeed an higher rate of violent crimes due to some factor, one of which is proliferation of weapons but still on the economic side they are very well being."
The rise in crime in the US has no correlation with proliferation of weapons. During the Cold War, most US states had far more laxed restriction on owning and using weapons, but there were next to none violent crime, not to mention mass shooting. I would advise you to read Thomas Sowell in regards to crime rates in the US. All of this starting going downwards ever since the War on Poverty policy, which talked anything but poverty.
"Any american that comes in Europe is surprised of how cheaper everything is here even in advanced economies like UK, France and Germany."
That is actually vice-versa. Gasoline is cheaper in the US compared to any place in Western Europe. Food is also cheaper. The average income of the middle class in the US is twice or more than that of Western Europe and UK. The poor in the US are wealthier than the poor in much of the EU, with very few exceptions.
"I assume from your comment on France having a 50% of immigrants that you consider immigrant even who aquired citizenship and even people who born in a family in which at least one of the parent was not born in the country. Using your criteria US population is probably 80% immigrants, basically everybody that wasn't already there before 1950."
Yes in regards to France. No in regards to the US, as the two countries have a different civilization model, at least up until recently. The US model has been to grant citizenship to people who properly assimilated into their nation and left behind the mentality, culture and ideas that made them leave their place of origin. This is the core of what it means to be an American. Meanwhile France imported anything from their former colonies for short term economic gains, but instead sacrificed its social harmony and security.
I do think France needs a Napoleon style clean up.
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