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Comments by "WALTERBROADDUS" (@WALTERBROADDUS) on "Ask Ian: What Rifles Were the M2-M13?" video.
Very simple. It's a different designation system for a sniper rifle. Everything is classified by its type. That's why you have an M1 helmet. That's why you have an M1 tank. Infantry rifle model M14. Versus sniper rifle model M21.
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@ashleystyles6888 Correct
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It's not really confusing.
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The M3 carbine is indeed a separate designation. The rifle and carbine are not interchangeable.
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You're not using proper designation. We're talking about rifle system. The carbine is entirely different.
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We're not talking about sub machine guns.
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@jeremyatobing3943 Argentina used the FAL.
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Again you're misusing designations. The M4 is a carbine. Not a rifle.
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As we explained, these are different classes of weapons with different designations.
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Because they're entirely separate items.
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You're thinking of the M11 pistol.
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Again, you're in the mistake of not using complete designation.
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Tanks are not rifles.
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@kinggamerism it's not confusing when you realize there are different items. Your focused on the model number and not the item. A M10 screwdriver cannot be confused with an M10 bayonet.
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Most of those other machine guns were characterized under the old year based system. Such as the m1917 and M1919.
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@Mrwizard-ck7oe there are lots of things designated M1.
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The United States Army Air Force was established in 1941. Many systems carried on after the change in 1947. Such as attending West Point as an example.
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It's not so much about Barrel size, but function.
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Now you're falling into slang terminology. A rifle is a very specific thing.
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@rlcarbo actually the video was about the military designation system. I think the problem here is that using very loose slang terminology versus proper designations. Simply saying, "gun?" Can refer to anything from a firearm to an artillery weapon. A rifle has a distinct designation. As does a carbine.
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Quite a bit. There been a number of military pistols and revolvers. The 1911 was designated under the old system using the year of adoption. It was replaced as the standard sidearm in 1985 by the Beretta M9. There was also a M11 pistol made by Sig. In between all those are a ton of other pistols and revolver.
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Sniper rifles have their own designation.
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@mattnsac because the topic is about rifles. And you're just randomly bringing up other items.
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That would be incorrect. The M3 carbine did see active service.
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The problem is is that you need to follow the model number with the item you're describing. There are many things termed model M1. But there is an M1 carbine. There is an M1 rifle. there is an M1 helmet. And so on.
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@mattnsac your listing them at random. As if they go together.
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Because the M4 is the designation for the M4 carbine. M16 is the designation for the infantry rifle. Separate designations for separate items.
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You're mixing items and just randomly throwing out model numbers.
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Is a designation used for many items. What you need to do is say model number and type of item. In this particular case, you're referring to submachine gun model M3.
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Actually it was the United States Army Air Force. And held that designation between 1941 and 1947.
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The system makes sense if you just spend a few minutes to think about it. The year-based system never made sense. What focus on is what the item is, rather than the number.
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Well fun fact? 101st is no longer an Airborne unit. Is an air assault unit. Difference? They use helicopters and not parachutes.
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@uncle_winnie1998 🤷🏽♂️ I don't know why people find this so hard to understand?
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