Comments by "David Ford" (@davidford3115) on "How China threatens companies with the new spying law" video.

@ttemp2631 Yeah, they said the same thing in the USSR. Ronald Reagan even made a joke to Gorbachev about it. Just because the communist party CLAIMS something, doesn't make it true.
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I suspect they have a GREAT appreciation for the US's bill of rights, particularly the due process of the 6th amendment as well as protection from unjust searches under the 4th.
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Yeah, that is exactly what the Soviets claimed in 1950s. It is what North Korea claims about the south today. There is a word for that: PROPAGHANDA.
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@gushterell7989 The US has the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments to prevent exactly what China is doing. Does your country have the right to due process or protection from unjust seraches?
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The problem is that nationality and ethnicity are often intertwined. The idea that a nationality could have different ethnicities is only a recent development in large part because of the United States. Historically, your ethnicity WAS your nationality.
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@koushikdas1992 Their corrupt leadership is doing that, selling their fellow citizens into financial slavery to the Chinese government.
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The US has a bill of Rights which protects due process. China doesn't have that. This spying law is no different than the ones King George III used to incarcerate people on a whim.
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And this is why the US constitution's Bill of rights exists. China is doing today what King George III and his courts often did. Arbitrarily jailed and punished people on flimsy charges of treason (espionage is China's favorite crime to prosecute). Read the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th Amendments because they were written for this exact reason.
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@wumaobot Not really. It fails if it is easily identifiable. Even Gorbbels admitted that nobody does propaganda like the US. Even Lavrenty Beria had to admit that too.
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The US Patriot Act is still NOMINALLY limited by the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments as much as they have been curtailed. China has not such due process protections. In China there is not Supreme Court to overrule the government.
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@mojewjewjew4420 That isn't an argument, that is an emotional outburst. Xi believes and Mao that Law comes from a gun (might makes right). US tradition rejects that.
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@ttemp2631 That is a bloviation. One can value hard work and merits but still be fascistic and authoritarian. For all of its flaws, the US has the Bill of Rights as part of the Supreme law of the land. China has no tradition. THAT is the actual difference.
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@ttemp2631 China upholds its inherited traditions? May I remind you about the Cultural Revolution where Mao's Red Guards destroyed that history wherever they found it? Communists don't take care of the poor, they exploit them for personal gain while claiming to act with compassion. it is all a sham.
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Yeah, the keep doing business despite knowing the risks. THey have only themselves to blame. A scorpion can't change its nature.
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There was material evidence showing Huawei was engaging in corporate and industrial theft. China simply took Canadian citizens hostage so as to pervert Canadian law. Such behavior is expected of criminal syndicate, not legitimate governments.
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@lv3609 Not really. You are engaging in classic whataboutism typical of communist regimes who can't otherwise defend their position. Industrial theft and corporate espionage ARE international recognized crimes covered by reciprocity clauses in treaties. The Huawei executives arrested in Canada clearly violated those statutes. You are rationalizing (ie making excuses) to justify hostage taking and kidnapping by governemnts.
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Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Anyone who got in bed with the Chinese Communists Party should not be surprised that they caught the legal equivalent of a venereal disease.
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The Communist Party has always been paranoid and distrustful of others, this is nothing new. Companies who are lamenting the situation have only themselves to blame. A Tiger doens't change its stripes, and communists are ALWAYS going to act in a VERY predictable manner, namely censorship and top-down totalitarian control over others.
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